Lol you're killing me smalls. If you just horde them, and I just horde them, who's gonna get them?
You're just passing the buck (lol), not the bit.
Satoshi you are not :-) You need a t-shirt that sez "I'm just riding this thing for money. Give me your most valuable currency (btc/usd/yen/spacemoney) now."
at least i'm spending money, be it USD or BTC, to support the Bitcoin economy
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Alright, i just ordered a large black Bitcoin shirt! Looking forward to it!
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the Bitcoin t shirt is pretty good. did u notice that the Bitcoin icon itself is a little lower on the white vs. black shirt? i like the more centered one of the black shirt. i might buy.
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my offer was $45 for 3:) sorry, not willing to part with btc's.
Hmm, definitely not Satoshi then. Yeah that's almost insulting. You want to promote btc, want a btc shirt, and offer strictly USD. Mr. Nakamoto demands your bitcoins back...doesn't trust you at all with them. its only insulting in the sense i don't want to give them to you! you got it ass backwards. i'm a huge fan of bitcoin and am doing everything to obtain and hold them, just like you, which in itself is a way to support btc. just b/c i don't want to spend them doesn't make me a hypocrite at all. the fact i want to depart with my USD's and display my support of btc via a t shirt should say it all. geez.
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catalintus
r u goin to make me those shirts?
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As the "official" bitcoin forum, this is just an embarrassment. This is true, this forum is doing nothing to help the market and its been trolled harder then I've seen any forum trolled. what do u expect? there's money involved.
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look at this tx. all the inputs come from one owner which according to davout is mtgox. apparently one of the deposits davout made to mtgox is included in this list of tx's in the inputs. also included in this list is the 17000 BTC that were dumped by a miner yesterday at 12:57 pm. for this 17000 BTC to be included in this list they would have had to be bought by mtgox yesterday which makes no sense to me at all since they are just exchangers.
You make no sense. They just have been deposited at mtgox, not bought by it. you're right. i don't. what happened is MagTux moved this amt of BTC offline to a secure destination for safekeeping. he does this when too many coins accumulate onsite. he no longer keeps coins assigned to users accts. they all get mixed in a global balance. this is why ppl like u may see your address routing to this offline site.
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Holy sh-- I really wonder why Mt.Gox is the only major exchange with returns like this ... if they decide to sell that off we better brace ourselves for an impact, insider info folks will have serious advantage there if they tell anyone That's some serious Bitcoin stash. Ugh. for the n-th time, this is mtgox's users money, not its own what doesn't make sense to me is that your deposit to mtgox is mixed with that 17000 BTC dump by a miner yesterday. according to you, those 17000 BTC would have had to be scooped up by mtgox in that selloff and then transferred to the single address of 432K BTC's. that doesn't make sense at all. hi cypherdoc I don't think davout's transfer was mixed in with the 17000 BTC dump yesterday (or at least he is not claiming that), but his transfer is included with in the transfer to http://blockexplorer.com/a/8d7f1vDvvw (block 130281). you maybe getting mixed up from another link I posted above with a link to the 17000 BTC transfer http://blockexplorer.com/tx/a09ac44c71a314316431f53dcf51d5c0ffdf85b738a6b07f622012ee41b38c16#o1look at this tx. all the inputs come from one owner which according to davout is mtgox. apparently one of the deposits davout made to mtgox is included in this list of tx's in the inputs. also included in this list is the 17000 BTC that were dumped by a miner yesterday at 12:57 pm. for this 17000 BTC to be included in this list they would have had to be bought by mtgox yesterday which makes no sense to me at all since they are just exchangers.
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Holy sh-- I really wonder why Mt.Gox is the only major exchange with returns like this ... if they decide to sell that off we better brace ourselves for an impact, insider info folks will have serious advantage there if they tell anyone That's some serious Bitcoin stash. Ugh. for the n-th time, this is mtgox's users money, not its own what doesn't make sense to me is that your deposit to mtgox is mixed with that 17000 BTC dump by a miner yesterday. according to you, those 17000 BTC would have had to be scooped up by mtgox in that selloff and then transferred to the single address of 432K BTC's. that doesn't make sense at all.
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Even if they did cash it all out and make a fortune, they'd have sacrificed what could be one of the most successful companies of the next decade.
or next millenium
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How do you know it's MT.gox?
Because I know how to read the fkn blockchain. Look, the guy asked you a legtimate question; how do u know its mtgox? i know how to read the block chain as well and there is nothing to indicate its mtgox who did that tx. there are other addresses in the past that have accumulated over 400K BTC's as well if u click back thru this exact chain leading up to this tx. The transaction shows where the money originally came from. I receive bitcoins at Address A. I send them to Mtgox. Mtgox sends them to singular address. Since I know what my address was, and the exact amount I transferred, I know it was mtgox doing the transfer because I can trace the btc back to myself. thats fine and true. sounds like you're just conjecturing what davout is alluding to. i'd like to hear that fact from him, though, since he's the one pointing the finger at mtgox. but unless someone recognizes an address there's no way to tell from the block chain itself who sent what to whom.
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I wouldn't be too worried, the price of bitcoins will bounce back to silver parity pretty quick. In a couple months a 1/1 trade of bitcoins to silver will look silly because bitcoins will be so much higher.
You know, that is kind of what I thought too. It would seem to make sense that if you had a large position in silver you would want to go ahead and move part of it over to Bitcoin. i've already done just that with my silver bullion. i'm actually thinking of selling my gold bullion as well. risky i know.
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How do you know it's MT.gox?
Because I know how to read the fkn blockchain. Look, the guy asked you a legtimate question; how do u know its mtgox? i know how to read the block chain as well and there is nothing to indicate its mtgox who did that tx. there are other addresses in the past that have accumulated over 400K BTC's as well if u click back thru this exact chain leading up to this tx.
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Thank you MeWantsBitCoins. I had to run around the net looking for how to sovle this earleir today, and eventually found out that unetbootin could help. I downloaded it and it was very easy along with the instructions. Success on booting the rig.
However, the link you provided is good since it seems to get more invovled in the setup. I am new to Linux, and am interested in learning...hands on is probably the way to go to accomodate that.
Thanks again!
BTW: Is that your cat?
No, thats him
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Just want to make sure that no one else does what I've done so that malware will never be written to target my bitcoin.
so how do u refute whats been said throughout this thread that VM's do nothing to block an attack? i was well aware of your software prior to this but haven't tried it out since you're so new as is the client so my interest was piqued by this thread.
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well, it seems to me the whole premise of this thread is to refute what you've done.
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what i'm asking for is a site that i can regularly check this graph update. sorry, I just did it manually. Not automated and I'm not a coder so not that easy for me to automate it. (yet anyway) kirian, thats a great graph. u should put that up somewhere. i've been begging the chart makers to publish daily % changes but no one is currently.
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if you look through blockexplorer, you'll see that the 17,000 BTC transaction which precipitated this correction was made up of very old (2009 & 2010), mined blocks, with no internal transactions. i'm reasonably sure this was a very early adopter. How can you tell through blockexplorer what coins were involved in an MtGox transaction? I'm sincerely asking. I guess I assumed that internally to MtGox you weren't necessarily selling the coins you sent in. go here: http://blockexplorer.com/address/155kHCZstYaosoGRxthF1zsZFVFheVFPLSthen click on the blocks, one at a time. nice detective work Jaime. so an early adopter miner was responsible for the selloff starting at 20 and taking it down to 13? the doom and gloomers got their wish. it wasn't my work. i only noticed it. "i stand on the shoulders of giants..." ~Bernard of Chartres no, i've spent the last 2 mo trying to better analyze the block chain. you can tell by the time it was him who sold btwn 13 and 20; just one guy. thats important info to know.
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note the modus operandi of the FUD's. they throw up a panic post then don't bother to keep the thread going to support their wild ass claim.
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