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18921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: September 12, 2018, 09:09:06 PM
@ Marvell2 wasn't Princess Lela asking ObWanKeNoBe for the help.

Yeah I spelled it wrong but it has been more then 40 years since I watched the movie. Grin
18922  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: mmpool.org - 1.5% fee DGM/PPS - tx fees/vardiff/merge mine/tor on: September 12, 2018, 08:46:01 PM
It seems something is up with port 3334 now, when will the pool be restarted to fix port 3333?

I sent an email to the mmpool admin and they responded quickly with a restart of the pool.  Looking good today!


good back up to 34th maybe I will test the m10 on it when it comes on friday
18923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: September 12, 2018, 08:44:23 PM
im sure a lot of blockchains will be internal use only, used to keep track of the various company assets.

projects still can have internal competition and departmental/regional goals. and if some project just wanted private or internal participants, those participants would want a way to prove the percentage of work they contribute, no? possibly it could just be a list of blocks its found vs other participants.. but issued tokens would be a way too. those tokens could be valuable somehow, such as determining participation levels, bonus amounts, allocation of company funds, etc. the tokens and use thereof would be auditable proof on the owning departments or branches participation and used to vote on company agendas.

so, not a general cryptocurrency per se as it wont mean anything outside of that company, but cryptosomething at least. even if only usable within that company.

but, that would expend an awful lot of energy depending on what the chain uses to support it. ideally it could use an algorithm that would generate results beyond simply proof or work, something thats part simulation or something thats otherwise beneficial to the company.. tangible results that could be used for company research or simulations maybe. since its internal they should be able to audit the miners and algo etc to ensure none are cheating.

maybe even get to the point employees could use home equipment to mine the companies blockchain for compensation. but then its pretty much cryptocurrency again heh.
Here's the thing.. internal blockchains can/could be manipulated. With a few bad actors could could easily rewrite/forge some stuff.

The incentive of a public blockchain is the BlockReward and the enconomic value that it brings when solving it. Therefore all actors must act in good faith otherwise they lose their value.

oh i agree. in some sort of internal blockchain a company should use one or more (external?) central authority to monitor it and the contributing hardware. this might result in less errors (or straight up lying) in whatever inventory the blockchain represents, at least at the department level. but ultimately it just shifts the target for dishonesty and corruption over to the central controlling authority rather than the rank and file. ie departments might have a hard time faking product reports.

im not saying private blockchains would work well in general, but possibly just give (even if only slightly?) better and inventory/product/asset control. or at least shift the potential for theft higher up the company food chain.

it may make it harder for the rank and file folks to be dishonest, and management to have a more accurate view of the company. now they only have to trust the central authority that monitors it all. but who watches the watchers heh.

all in all its just private blockchain vs database. they are administered differently, the corruption risks are shifted around a bit.

perhaps companies with widely separated facilities may have fun trying this out so they can keep an eye on each other better. good luck.
NB: the argument I was putting forward is not the private vs public blockchains... but rather, what would be the utility of block rewards (and giving any sort of value to crypto coins or tokens) alltogether? Permissioned blockchains need not reward anyone. Public blockchains might still to some extent, but I think the future will relegate them to open-source dev and/or decentralization evangelists. I just cannot see real-world use of blockchain "rewarding" users/miners for very much longer as the technology gets privatized.

EDIT: as a miner and small time investor, of course, I hope I'm wrong. But crypto has so far failed in acting as a worthy alternative for fiat currency (despite what Buterin & friends still think it should be - good luck with that - ETH will lose massive hashpower in the near future - have fun managing your cryptokitty-transactions).
Crypto has not failed as much as its being blocked by the traditional entities that control this space alongside with the banksters and counties that need to control wealth movement like they have for 100s of years.

It seems like thier plan is to attempt to control it by slowing adoption so they can take it for themselves

Asic builders attacking and wiping out gpu mining set back adoption big time.

but developers are greatly at fault for not having forks ready and simply selling out to asic builders.

Here on this site most of us are not 1 card to 2 card hobby miners but the fact is I built 20 rigs for miner/gamers last year

They got a
2 card 1080ti rig
 with an intel 7700 cpu
 16 gb ram
 plat 850 watt psu
and 1tb ssd

 everyone of them  has fully paid those rigs off Since I was moving them out in May June July of last year.

this was a nice side business for me.  It also was leading to widespread adoption and was snuffed by developers selling out and asics killing gpu mining.

Maybe xmr and BTC and BCI can rally gpu mining  back  we will see how it unfolds.
18924  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolin Whatsminer M10 - 33TH at 2145W on: September 12, 2018, 05:47:38 PM
Price is still too high IMO, but being first to market allows them to do that. I expect price wars to start once someone else gets to market. ROI is going to be over a year if you have $0.05 kWh and if specs are accurate. Faster ROI with cheap 841 or S9.  

try  roi at 8 cent power

or roi at 10 cent power

the s9j  does 95 watts a th

this should do 67 watts a th


10 cent power

1 th at 67 watts a th does this


9-13 – 9-13 (1 day)   7019 G   0.06355   0.06292   0.06292  6 cent profit


1th at 95 watts does this

9-13 – 9-13 (1 day)   7019 G   -0.00433   -0.004284   -0.004284   loses .4 cents a th


so at 10 cent power  this allows you profit right now.

the s9j  does not
18925  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [170PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: September 12, 2018, 05:41:21 PM
"solvedby": "36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V",
 "date": "[2018-09-12 16:37:56.323]",
 "hash": "0000000000000000000200e7010546f6535d3960dfaf35b159c96ac1d4f36690",
 "shares": 12389667524583,


"diff": 176.5


not too bad for a six day wait
18926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: September 12, 2018, 01:11:54 PM
@Phil -  Are you liking Windows or SMOS better, for BCI?

to early to tell


http://solo-bci.altpool.pro/workers/iG5mxRMZErtXwReBaEvpYam7PQStwgK5hR



1-4 are windows

s1 is smos


I burned 3 new smos sticks  to hook up my 3 other smos rigs.

network is growing a lot we are now at 45gh  we were at 31gh on sat

45gh is about 2500 x 1080ti

say 2500 x 18m/h hash =    45gh

my 160mh is now 45000/160 =   281 to 1  or a block
every 2 days


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-interest/


price dropped a bit.

I have an issue since I can not use bitfinex


 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-interest/#markets


I need to check on

Hitbtc https://hitbtc.com/

exrates

trade satoshi
18927  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolin Whatsminer M10 - 33TH at 2145W on: September 12, 2018, 01:00:57 PM
Buying power? Let some one here haggle that for you.

I may need to find a northwest power guy with good rates.

Getting a second solar array has proven to be really slow here in NJ

I have tracking for the M10  it will arrive on Friday the 14th.

I do hope it can do 65-70 watts a th.
18928  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mucho gear coming out in next few months. on: September 12, 2018, 12:58:33 PM
tracking number from dhl for m10 it will come this friday the 14th.

acutally stoked to see what it will do.
18929  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: BITTECH Announces New 28 TH/s ASIC on: September 12, 2018, 12:54:51 PM
Same could be said for every single piece of hardware that nobody has physically received yet, including GMO (also has an ICO) and the Whatsminer M10. It's why it's in speculation. GMO still hasn't shown a physical running model. Price drop on this makes it more attractive than both. People said the same about Halong and it turned out to be legitimate, although with ASICBoost.

I am waiting to hear back from sales on how their admin panel functions, ability to over/underclock, etc. Based on their demo videos, admin is accessible on local network, running CGminer, and not hosted/cloud-based like the 8 nano that some are speculating is producing fake hashrate through cloud mining.

Well the m10 whatsminer is on its way to me I have tracking for it and it is due Friday the 14th.

I have to say that if this miner exists it would be 2200/28000 =  .78 watts a gh or 78watts a th

The m10 is supposed to be under 70 watts a th

once I test and determine the m10 over this weekend I will look into this unit.
18930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: September 12, 2018, 04:32:37 AM

no

it is a new al-gore-rythm designed to punish dedicated asics  and favor gpus.  maybe fpga's


you could buy on bitfinex and hope for a pump
 

Retaining the coins on the wallet gets interests as well - looks promising this coin.

I tried EWBF/SMOS/1080ti but error message "Receive Incorrect Work"

Any specific Equihash algo/fork to use with this pool?


Yeah but you need the newest smos stick the one with 396.4 drivers for nvidia not the older stick with 384 drivers.
I flashed my sticks today. But only 1 miner is in the House.

The others are at my friends office.

He put a new group in today.  Progpow
18931  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolin Whatsminer M10 - 33TH at 2145W on: September 12, 2018, 04:26:46 AM
You wouldn't be able to cool them with your setup. Your garage would be hell for them too. Right at around 20-25 in a garage where even with 10k cfm your going to have heat problems and need more airflow than that.

Solar array could hold 30 units and cool them, but once we go over 20kwatts we need to buy power.

And buying power in nj costs too much.
18932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: September 12, 2018, 03:53:16 AM

no

it is a new al-gore-rythm designed to punish dedicated asics  and favor gpus.  maybe fpga's


you could buy on bitfinex and hope for a pump

or you could root for me to hit a block Grin

 http://solo-bci.altpool.pro/workers/iG5mxRMZErtXwReBaEvpYam7PQStwgK5hR

it will allow gpus at the moment and it likes 1080tis
18933  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolin Whatsminer M10 - 33TH at 2145W on: September 12, 2018, 03:22:25 AM
Pangi's bulk pricing for 100+ and 500-1k units are really nice though compared to inno

must be nice to order 1000 of them Undecided

    3 are 100th
  30 are 1ph
300 are 10 ph
900 are 100 ph

I wish the solar array could do 100 of them vs 6 or 7 of them
18934  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 7nm Avalon ASIC (A3207) • AvalonMiner A9 • 0.06-0.07 J/GH on: September 12, 2018, 02:23:52 AM
When did they post their 8 series branch LY? Might help speculate a release.

It was around for more then 50 days prior to release of 821.

But I think avalon wants to get the a9 out the door asap.  So I hope for early October.

I also hope the A9 lives up to spec.  the 841 were good. the 851 not so good.  but my tests involved 3 841's and 2 851's  small samples to base results on.
18935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: September 12, 2018, 02:13:54 AM
need more people on our bci pool

http://67.40.164.173:8080/stats

I have 3 rigs with six 1080ti's on them mining BTG.  edit three 2 card rigs for  total of  6 1080ti's

I can't switch them until I burn 3 newer smos usb sticks.

My friend will be at his office on Thurs I may try to do it then.
18936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: September 12, 2018, 12:39:58 AM
There will always be a place for public blockchains.

Will everyone be able to mine with a gpu while they sleep like 2017 maybe but I don't think so.
18937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: The ASIC wave!!! on: September 12, 2018, 12:37:56 AM
If you plan to asic mine in the current climate you need cheap power.

So I ask you what does your power cost you?

at 3 to 5 cents you should be good
at 6 to 8 cents you may be good
at 9 to 11 cents it has become iffy

over 11 cents most every asic is a loser at the moment.

those are per kwatt usd money with all fees included .
18938  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: 7nm Avalon ASIC (A3207) • AvalonMiner A9 • 0.06-0.07 J/GH on: September 12, 2018, 12:32:54 AM
Good news  it will be interesting to see how efficient it is.  Maybe a very early October release is in the cards.
18939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Huawei F100 VU9P FPGA Mining Cards now Available on: September 11, 2018, 11:20:35 PM
you are pretty new and fpga's have been plagued by delays and outright scams.

I offer my services to you as an escrow agent and I would be willing to demo a product or 2 for you.

I do this for many new builders of gear.

I am USA based and I am very well known on this website.

I offered services to squirrels and the acorn they were going to sell they did not take any aid or help from me and have been plagued by delays.

I would hate for anyone to have these issues ordering preorders from you.
I would also hate for you to be a scammer and selling fake preorders.

We are new to bitcoin talk but we are not a new company.

A group buy works differently to a pre-order. A group buy is effectively one large order placed by lots of smaller buyers in order to get a better price and ensure that a product is made available to those who would not normally have access. This order must be paid upfront. A better option for all parties is not using an escrow, but paying via credit card which offers better protection for consumers even after the products have been delivered. I do appreciate the offer though, anything that protects our community is a good thing, as long as you aren't the scammer of course Smiley

Have you seen his trust reputation? philipma1957 is not a scammer. However you are, until you show proof of your device, and the best way is to send as demo board for review to a trusted member.

They take credit cards.  If you order and it doesn't arrive, dispute it.  No need for a complicated escrow.

As I said on preorders you may be subject to long  delays.

your credit card and PayPal may charge up front and tie up 1000's of dollars.

I have been around for years on this site and I can tell you 8 of 10 preorders pretty much have been a scam or really delayed a long time.

Very few did well. Basically the op does not have a timeline for delivery as I read his info.



https://www.bithashmining.com/collections/fpga

edit found this


note PayPal has issues with 45 days so do not pay with PayPal you will not be covered.
if you use a cc make sure they will cancel at the 60 day mark

good luck to buyers.


6. DELIVERY

Delivery is estimated at between 6-8 weeks.



18940  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [170PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: September 11, 2018, 11:13:44 PM
I will digress Just a bit.

gear rankings

Innosilicon T2Turbo = 82 watts a th on efficiency setting
Halong T1's            = 92 watts a th on efficiency   -ck did firmware
S9i                        = 97 watts a th
Avalon 841             = 99 watts a th
S9                         = 101 watts a th
Avalon 851             =  115 watts a th


all based on watts per th as tested by me

I am getting an M10 very soon maybe Fri the 14th or Mon the 17th

It should become my most efficient miner.

I will have it pointed here very soon.
and I will do a youtube video of it.
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