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1901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta on: June 11, 2014, 10:04:22 PM
How much exo will someone get for 1.5 BTC investment?

First and second round.
first 598000 exo

second 240000 exo

And how much does the community think will 1 EXO be worth?
1902  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available on: June 11, 2014, 09:56:09 PM
Hey if these hugs are genuine, then surely it's better than nothing? I wonder how many I'll get for my lost amount. I'd be happy with 15. They'd have to be some pretty goddamn good hugs though.

Well, he offered me 24 hugs for 15.2 BTC.

I wanted to meetup with him, but he said he can't come to melbourne. Sad Sad panda is sad
1903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 09:04:57 PM
Also, bitcoinrocks has lost the 22 M qora
1904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
But we haven't figured out a way to prove loss of funds.
Yup...  no way of knowing if someone sold their QORA in the meantime.
I still propose everyone that has a Qora balance on ShareXCoin make a claim to Busoni. He can open the claim period for 10 days. If after that time the claims are = or < the amount he has frozen, he can disburse the coins. Otherwise, they go to the community fund for bounties/givaways. I can't think of any fairer way to do it.

@PilotofBTC I am sorry for your loss but there is no way that the claims are = or < the amount he has frozen.
"only" about 23M frozen.
you claim you lost about 20M.
I know TwinWinNerD lost a lot.
I lost a big amount also.
and I am sure there are a lot more people.

community fund for bounties/giveaways is really the best and only fair solution for the frozen funds.
That or fractional refunds.
1905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 08:20:49 PM
He even froze 0.8 BTC of the funds that he didn't cashout!

You see...  these low BTC figures point to quick scalp/arbitrage efforts rather than any significant dumps...  who knows?   Sad

Let me be the one to ask the community a tough question for the STOMACH...  let's say we see ShareXcoin online again where depositors are given the chance to withdraw...  does Busoni send the QORA back??? 



Yes. And not only that. Busoni said he can semd the qora to victims. But we haven't figured out a way to prove loss of funds.
1906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Kora::100% POS|Qora Clone|Free & Fair ~3k users|issued NXT AE asap on: June 11, 2014, 08:02:14 PM
Don't do funding from people that want a share. This always gets messy and has a ugly after-taste.

How about "pledges" of the funds received (% of Kora stake) and plain donations?
1907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 07:57:48 PM
of course NO accident. sending qora from sharexcoin to poloniex to dump and than sending some qora back to sharexcoin main address
means he has total control of everything.

Wait a sec...  did Busoni also report QORA sales happening through that account?   

IIRC, yes! 

He even froze 0.8 BTC of the funds that he didn't cashout!
1908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
you mean sharexcoin main address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  ?

No...  I mean that he/they didn't even bother to move the QORA I deposited to whatever holding address...  it kinda looks like ziplibrary took the exchange off-line without having prepared to do so to me...   Undecided

I really think that's what happened. I'd love to know the full real story. But, we'll probably never know.

Yes seems so.

And his move is basically to wait until the dust settles and he can sell-off qora on an exchange that doesn't care about tainted coins: Like BTER.
1909  Economy / Economics / Re: MtGox btc when? on: June 11, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
Not a great believer in the rightness of USA's legal system but I wonder if putting the matter in the hands of an attorney would benefit me.

There are several different class action suits. But even they are saying that if you are no major holder of gox funds, it isn't worth joinging..

So there is that.
1910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 07:47:27 PM
you mean sharexcoin main address: QXx7SnaEPvEczS8rX7HZKH3pY4vXG8ATxK  ?

No...  I mean that he/they didn't even bother to move the QORA I deposited to whatever holding address...  it kinda looks like ziplibrary took the exchange off-line without having prepared to do so to me...   Undecided
Yes. He just shutdown everything.

But it was NO accident. Because he even came online on the forum one more time.

So it was not like he died or something Wink
1911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]◥◤N2◢◣IPO◥◤100% POS◢◣NXT Clone◥◤New Features◢◣FULL Version Available◥◤ on: June 11, 2014, 07:26:13 PM
END OF IPO
Hi,Dev
I invested at the last day of IPO but I haven't received my shares so far
I PMed you,pleases check it
thank you!


You are on the list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NmEeZIDnAY-8n4sfpCzZWXPlBIRZSfRKf448HMD7080/edit#gid=856749964

Just wait until he sends all coins out. He always sends in batches!

And don't worry, every one of the hundreds of investors, got his coins Wink
1912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 07:21:17 PM
Also, NXT supporters like innovation. So they can't like NXT and QORA? Have you thought about that?
@TwinWinNerD why?
don't encourage conversation - nothing good will come out of it -  let him go.

Ok. QoraKnight: YOU DON'T NEED TO RESPOND.

Now back to business!

What is our next plan? Any exchange votes that need to be rigged? Wink
1913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source on: June 11, 2014, 07:18:06 PM

If by majority, you mean this small circle of NXT supporters who have managed to hijack Qora thread for their own purpose, then I've got nothing to say to you.

This so-called community has been hijacked by some vehement supporters of Nxt. They do everything in the interest of NXT. So for all intent and purpose, I cannot consider myself one of you.

This is a pretty ugly situation because dzarmush is being surrounded by a lot of NXT supporters, and he does not listen to the opinion of true Qora owners.  He does what Nxters want, but does not listen to Qora owners' wishes.

I think unless people like gorillajam has agreed to leave, there is no hope for this community to grow. Until this situation has resolved itself, I refuse to be part of it.

Good day.  Smiley

 Ok Smiley BYE BYE

Also, NXT supporters like innovation. So they can't like NXT and QORA? Have you thought about that?

1914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NAS Giveaway on Poloniex. TODAY. 7PM GMT on: June 11, 2014, 07:03:39 PM
NAS Giveaway is now live: https://poloniex.com/giveaways
1915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NAScoin Giveaway @ POLONIEX | TODAY | 7 PM GMT on: June 11, 2014, 07:03:29 PM
NAS Giveaway is now live: https://poloniex.com/giveaways
1916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NAS :: Descendant of NXT 100% PoS|WinNAS is ready! on: June 11, 2014, 07:03:09 PM
NAS Giveaway is now live: https://poloniex.com/giveaways
1917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NAS :: Descendant of NXT 100% PoS|WinNAS is ready! on: June 11, 2014, 06:56:30 PM
To Promote the WinNAS Client, We Are Hosting A Giveaway At Poloniex.com!

1'000'000 NAS Coins will be distributed under the "Giveaway" tab at 7PM GMT (In 55 minutes from now!)


this is over,  Tongue

?? I just sent 1 M NAS over there. This giveaway will happen!

Thanks, then we can benefit twice, first from the giveaway and second from the giveawaydumpers.  Grin  Grin

I set the amount of NAS so that you can't insta sell them.

EVIL GRIN .

hahaha Smiley
1918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
There has to be someone somewhere that knows how to get those returned...right? Utopianfuture? Anyone? Pleeeeaaaseee?!?!

You could ask UP to make an exception for you and send you 0.X NEMtokens, because you clearly destroyed those NXT. Its like Proof of burn.

Would be a nice gesture of the NEM community to a newbie!

What kind of suggestion is that? NEMtokens are not mine to reward, or make an exception. Everyone of them will be accountable by someone.

@strapon: the cold-hard truth is that you lost your Nxt. I hardly see how it is related to me, especially in an official capacity. There are only two sides that should take the blame. One is yourself and the second is perhaps the Nxt address format.   


I meant that you can send him some compensation from any "promotional" funds you have for NEM. Would be good publicity that you care for the small investor.

Maybe its just my opinion!

No I don't care for investors.

Fair enough Smiley
1919  Economy / Lending / Re: Professional Index Trader and CPA Marketer Need Investors of 1-5BTC on: June 11, 2014, 06:41:01 PM
Login to Binary.com with VRTC115957 and password abcdef. Click on My Account, Profit Table and Statement. Send a PM to request for login to other accounts if you are interested.
I'm busynow but I will respond to every post later.


Great, You're outstanding, remarkable. Here's another 40 btc.

Hold that thought!

I want to send him 120BTC
1920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEM] NEMstake tokens are listed on Nxt asset exchange on: June 11, 2014, 06:40:17 PM
There has to be someone somewhere that knows how to get those returned...right? Utopianfuture? Anyone? Pleeeeaaaseee?!?!

You could ask UP to make an exception for you and send you 0.X NEMtokens, because you clearly destroyed those NXT. Its like Proof of burn.

Would be a nice gesture of the NEM community to a newbie!

What kind of suggestion is that? NEMtokens are not mine to reward, or make an exception. Everyone of them will be accountable by someone.

@strapon: the cold-hard truth is that you lost your Nxt. I hardly see how it is related to me, especially in an official capacity. There are only two sides that should take the blame. One is yourself and the second is perhaps the Nxt address format.   


I meant that you can send him some compensation from any "promotional" funds you have for NEM. Would be good publicity that you care for the small investor.

Maybe its just my opinion!
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