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1901  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 05, 2017, 03:00:02 PM
I am stop when my profit target has been achieved. Because, i think getting profit 8% per day from gambling isn't difficult thing to implement. I am grateful, now this strategy can run 1 month and have cashout all my profits. But before, I often failed because always wanted more.


8 % per day is really high if you keep doing like that Im sure you could be rich in no time but we dont know if you are going to be lucky all the time or not. Sometimes we wont be lucky that is why it is better not to make that kind of limit. You will fail most of the time trying to get back what you lose in the end because we cant win in gambling
1902  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 05, 2017, 02:50:47 PM
Honestly I'm a player of gambling, I just want also to quit in gambling. But due to calling of needed sometimes I just played my money or bitcoin because I just believe that I was lucky. However that's hunch was so wrong, because instead of earning income, I've been lost my money.
Therefore for me it's hard to quit in gambling, maybe you can do it for a little bit time, but after that if you have enough money you can used it also in bitcoin gambling.

You dont need to believe that you are lucky because we dont know that if we are lucky or not. If we think that we are lucky then we will want to play all the time, that is really not going to help us to quit if we keep on thinking like that. Sometimes it is best to step down and think that we are not lucky at all so that you could stop gambling
1903  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: November 03, 2017, 07:49:11 AM
I do not gamble to much but it always seems that when I do, I take the loss big time.  For example, I have lost over 3 BTC in the BustaBit game online.  It is fun and I like to play but I always get greedy with it.  I have won about 2.2 BTC back, but I lost more than what I have won.  For some odd reason, I keep coming back over and over.  I do not know why I do it, why do you?


The thing is when we lose we always say that it would be the last, we swear to never come back again. However, there is this hope in our mind that is saying tomorrow is another day. We hope and we fill ourselves with thoughts of luck believing that maybe this time we will win it.
That's right because it's the person who lost the gamble and want to go on before the money back. and most so if people like to play gambling.

that person will be curious with the gamble and still have another hope that he can make win from the games. and no matter how hard he try, he always come back to test his luck and if he don't realize this, then it is hard to stop his pleasure to playing gambling. and i think maybe he can get winning but after he losing for several round but he's chance to recover his money can not be reach with easy.

Everyone is curious to gamble because they do want to have some fun. In the same time some people dont really expect to win money but only to have fun so there are alot of reason on why people to come back. Perhaps some people even only want to chat with some guy on the site without any intention of playing or wasting any money

I even have some experienced before that there are few players on a particular online gaming site who just go to the chatroom and chatted all day while hoping that there are other players who will be going to tip them and the tip they received will be their capital to bet - nothing really lost this way only time.
I have experienced that in BitVest because chatting there would probably give you the chance to earn tokens and if you made some amount of tokens you could convert it to BTC and that could help you easily make BTC without investments or depositing in the site but the deposit on the site would make it easier also.

Well that is free money to gamble but even if you ask me to do it then I wont do it. Even if I am just playing for fun, the feeling Of not using our own money to gamble is not the same. I dont care if I win or lose but I dont really enjoy gambling if I am not using my own money. Perhaps thats what makes you come back but it is not for me
1904  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: November 03, 2017, 06:20:49 AM
if compared both gambling and invest, yes is better to invest
but invest in the website trusted dont invest your money in HYIP or ponzy scheme

Its not possible that you invest in a ponzi scheme most sites are transperant in terms of the profit earned and each and every bet placed is showed live if you do end up investing in a ponzi well that's your fault because you can easily find out legit sites

People are misleading themselves for understanding investment is equal to HYIP or ponzi. These investments are really scams and people thinks that this is the only way to invest in crypto, they are not aware about trading, mining, joining an ICO and other legit investments. It's better to gamble than to invest on these scams if I were to choose. But comparing to real and legit investments, they are better.


Some people are misleading themselves but some people do know the different. When I talk about investment, I usually means gambling site investment because we are discussing in the gambling section. Some people should know the different but from all of those investment, the most legit and guaranteed to give profit should be gambling site investment
1905  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 03, 2017, 06:06:42 AM
I just quit and never comeback ill tell you my secret isi think always my family if i lose the money instead of giving it to them i just help them with the financial lroblem since id love to trade rather than risking my money into gambling fast ehre in trading you can make your money grow in a safe way not un like in gambling once who lose you triggered your self to try win back your loses
Thinking of spending money on things we need and helpful or giving our money to our parents. That is one way worth trying to stop gambling. No need to stop at once, if you still want to gamble then use a little money, make the way I mentioned above as your top priority so that if you are having a mediocre money you can choose to use the money for something wiser.
What we need to learn is just to control ourselves and ensure we are gambling based on our capacity.
Small amount is okay as long as it gives excitement to you and you can do that everyday if you are looking for real fun but never chase a big
dream to make easy money in gambling as most likely the result is not on your favor.

We need to learn on how to control ourselves to use limit. If we learn to control ourselves with no limit at all then it is useless. Sometimes we could stop when we feel like it but sometimes we might not stop that is why it is better to control ourselves with limit. Some people think this is not important but this thing has helped me alot to get out of addiction
1906  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: November 03, 2017, 05:58:04 AM
It's only a sin if you're harming yourself , your family or any body else in your environment due to your gambling activities . Religions have mixed up definitions of sins and prohibited deeds that are enlisted in their holly books . That does differ from a religion to another , but i'd prefer believing my own definition that a sin is something that we can apply the right or wrong rule on it and that it's level of danger could affect not only your present , but your future or somebody's else present and future .
Gambling being a sin depends on each person's perspective. However, like you have said, using your gambling activities to hurt others is a very big sin and as long as that can be curtailed and you know how to control yourself, then no shit! Yet I believe, for those who are extreme in gambling, I do not see how they do not end up hurting the people around them.
If we are one with the intention of gambling only for fun then for sure we will not consider gambling as a sin, only those who are addicted and have ruin their lives will think gambling is a sin but they are wrong with that and they are just coward enough not to admit their mistakes, instead they blame it to gambling. If it's a sin then we are all sinners here, I don'a agree with that because gambling is just a form of entertainment to me.

It is a sin for some people right but we do have our own feeling on how to see this thing. For me I dont consider it a sin as long as I dont use the money to buy something. Everything that I won from gambling site will goes back to the gambling site so that is why I dont really care about that because I only win a small amount of money as well
1907  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: November 02, 2017, 07:01:33 PM
I always welcome a win but I also always think that if I had of staked more I could of had a better win. This is the greed in me thinking that took me a few years to get used to that.

Atleast you win some money, some people might lose everything that he has but you win. That makes you better than most people that gamble. You should be grateful about it, take the profit and dont use it to gamble anymore. Im one of those people that keep losing so even if I could win then I would think that it is a miracle for me.
1908  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: November 02, 2017, 06:59:33 PM
Just set limits you should follow and don't bypass them otherwise you may have serious problems
This is some serious and efficient way for playing. But for gambling even if you limit yourself, still in that limit portion too, you will fall and losses will be in your account. Gambling is not good even if you are doing nothing in casino, it will make you addict when you saw more money coming for one time. So better is, limit yourself from gambling and go for some other sources of income.
There is no way for you to gamble in smart way but to quit gambling right after your winning.
That is what i consider as smart way , because whenever you get a winning you will lost it again sooner or later.
So just think again about how you can be smart if you continuously gamble such as an addict.
You will lose if you don't quit for good, even if you temporarily quit with a profit you will still gonna come back again the next day to play.
That's how we think, we always aim for more and if we have a good winning streak we think we have figured out how to win consistently until we get greedy.
As long as you have a strong will , i don't think you will come back to gamble again.
I mean when you really have cashed out a big amount of money from your previous winning , why you have to risk your money again?
You need to have a self control and a careful decision , that is the key .

Strong will is all it needs sometimes. I started with a strong will to stop as well although I havent completely stop yet but atleast Im doing better job then my previous self. I dont really play for profit anymore but only for fun  It was hard at first but I managed to do it. Im not perfectly done it yet but someday Im sure that staying away from gambling is not really impossible for me
1909  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: November 02, 2017, 06:46:31 PM
giving up from gambling is not easy. yes for me the main reason not to gamble because I'm addicted to gambling especially when you have money gambling you can not avoid because I thought I'd win a big money.the gambling hobby is bad so the  ineed my family some advice is to stop gambling so I stop gambling for good reason.

Then you did it right, sometime we think good and in the end of result we found nothing. Then better to leave this idea. Actually, you demand big desire from gambling, then you should prove that you are lucky then only you get big winning. But unfortunately it was not happened, then you have choice to give up gambling.    
Its really a bad idea to think off this way anytime we do play gambling because these motives or aims will push us to play even more as long we do know we do have still money left to play.Its really hard to stop specially if you are already got addicted to it. Addiction is really a tough enemy which most gamblers do fail to beat it up.
Why not just enjoy the game and know your priorities,it's good to play once in a while but not to make it to a point of making it as a source of income. Gambling were fun but we need to be more oriented on it's consequence and learn how to handle it when such situation occurs like giving it up when it's too much.
This should really be putted on any gamblers mind which we should really know our priorities and the money being spent on gambling is just an extra amount not on those money are already allocated on your needs for your living but the sad thing that most gamblers do forgot these stuff and rather believe that gambling will make them rich easily.

For some people that is not extra money but they think that they can be rich by doing it. Alot of people think like that in fact so they say that giving up gambling is hard. Yes I admit that it is very hard t give up gambling but atleast they can be playing for fun just like me, if we play for fun then we dont really need those profit when we play
1910  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: November 02, 2017, 06:08:11 PM
Try to find things which is much more important than gambling. Its very hard to stop if you really prioritize gamble. Try to slowly erase it and fill it with your new discovered things and make it your hobby. Be persistent and patience, as time goes by, you will be slowly not craving for it and will be much more into your new hobby. I hope that the one you choose to replace the gambling should produce good result and not harm your self so that you can have a much more better life.

It is even hard to find something that you like and change it with gambling. If we keep gambling that means we like to gamble that is why it will be hard for us to get out of this. If we cant get out of it then dont strain at all but better to take it slowly like me. I dont really play alot anymore but I am still playing although with only small amount for fun
It is a mental problem for sure , you need help from an expert in that field, that is my opinion.
As no matter how many times you try to avoid and looking for a distraction , an addiction is a real big problem that you cannot handle it by yourself.
Go to an expert if you feel keep repeating the same mistake to get back to gamble again and again.
I decided to stop and enjoy my remaining profit.
That would be the best possible solution that ease my addiction on gambling that time since no matter how we chase back our winnings it might not worked as plan.  This method of realization save me from losing all my profits in gambling. I won during my first month of playing gambling then after that, I started losing weekly until I lost almost half my profit then


If you could do that then you should do it before you get back to play for more. Some people can win from gambling but not for me, I ended up losing all the time. Even if you win, you cant win all the time that is why it is better to stop while you are ahead. So you wont really have any regret for all the money that you have lose from gambling
1911  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 02, 2017, 06:06:54 PM
Gambling is not wrong and in other way round it is.  Gambling is a risk because this life we are living is also a gambling. It for better for worst

It is wrong to gamble and hope to get alot of money from it but it is not really wrong to play and have fun. This is two different thing but alot of people getting mixed up on it. Some people dont care if they play for profit, I dont mind that as well but when they keep losing and keep trying to get back what they lose. That is really frustating to see for me
1912  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: November 02, 2017, 06:03:17 PM
in some other way gambling is one of my stress reliever i enjoyed gambling that is why i'm hooked to it.. i had this experience that the only way i can run to make money is gambling my partner don't have a job for 1 year so we depend to our parents and if my mom gave me money i gamble then i really win maybe i am just lucky that time because i badly need money.

It is not really stress reliever but it is great way of having fun. Stress reliever and having fun is not the same. Some people like to play games but when they lose they are stress about it so it is not the same for me. If you feel that it is stress reliever then perhaps it is better to find some other thing before you get addicted even further
1913  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 02, 2017, 05:35:20 PM
It all depends on weather you already considered that money gone when you bought 1btc if you would be happy losing it all gambling which is something that could happen. If the risk is calculated you could turn that 1 into 10 btc as long as you are lucky.

When I buy 1 btc, then I am not happy about losing it in gambling. Depends on how we see this thing because for me , I can make some money from investing those 1 btc. For some people that hasnt had any hardship from gambling wont understand this. Some people need to realize that the money will be wasted if they keep on gambling and lose
1914  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: November 02, 2017, 05:29:59 PM
Just curious since the last discussion I had was about gambling vs trading. I know trading can seem to be a bit of a gamble as well, but I see it a little bit like poker. It's a combination of math and psychology. Maybe not the same ratio though, just generalizing  Tongue

Yeah Trading is also a gambling but it is legal in form I guess. In trading you must study every movement of the coin you are going to trade and you need to also to read more to learn and be a better traders. While in gambling you need pure luck to win and you need not to be greedy so that you will not lose all your bankroll.

It is not gambling for sure and it is very different from gambling. Only some part are actually alike and you can say that they are similar but they are not the same. We dont need pure luck like you say and in trading we have chance to make money but in gambling we dont have that chance. Gambling only give chance for the owner to make money
1915  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: November 01, 2017, 07:23:01 PM
when you win in gambling you feel excited and on top of the world. alot of thing on how and what to spend on your winning will start disturbing your head. you feel you have achieve something great and you will think you can win more then you start to play again. if you are lucky you will still win and if you are unlucky you will lose all the money you have one. My friend ones told me there is karma in gambling and that is the reason why you cant keep winning all the time. when you win you win back part of your loss

Sometimes winning back part of what we lose makes us excited already , that is why alot of people keep coming back to win more. They play with much bigger capital and hope to win more. I wont really care if they play for fun but if they keep playing like that , that just means they are wasting their money because we cant win money from gambling
1916  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: November 01, 2017, 06:53:13 PM
trading is way much better than gambling. it is like trading is earning while gambling is wasting mostof the time. and there is no comparison between trading and bitcoins because what you are trading is the crypto currencies itself such as bitcoins, altcoins and other coins.
Trading and gambling have nothing similar in my point of view. Some people say that both are risky so trading is a gambling. That way, our whole life can be considered a big gambling game. Never know what is going to happen next, anything can happen anytime because future is unpredictable but accuracy can be developed in nonrandom activities like trading. Casinos games are luck dependent as most of them are totally random.

actually there is a different definition about gambling itself , in general gambling described as wagering something to get a gain or a loss. but specifically gambling are about wagering money (or anything that has value) on an event to get additional money.

trading basically wagering money too and when you correctly make a prediction you will get additional money , it is up to you to consider as whatever.

Trading is not really wagering money like you say. Trading is better than gambling but we cant really have fun in trading. If we want to make money the trading is the right choice. When we trade it is not really about trying to get lucky but it is about trying to make money from the information that we gathered so that we can choose the right choice
1917  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 01, 2017, 06:51:32 PM
When you lost everything - you`ll automatically stop playing

Some people dont really stop laying after they have lose everything but they keep on playing again after they get some money. Some people dont really know what kind of mess that they are getting into that is why they are going to keep trying to win back what they have lose. While some people realized that it was the time for them to stop completely
1918  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 01, 2017, 06:41:20 PM
It is vital that you set your own limits on your gambling. You can only bet what you can afford to lose every bet you have to treat as money lost and if it wins it is a bonus. Without limitation you can very easily spiral out of control and that is when it can become a very serious addiction. It is fun to gamble try to keep it that way.

It is not just setting limit but following the rules as well. Some people will set limit but pass it easily without having any consent about it. Atleast people should be aware that they are playing for fun that is why it is better not to set limit that is high. Use small amount of money to play because it is only about having fun not about winning money
1919  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: November 01, 2017, 06:28:34 PM
Yes, learn from that fact. Gamblers only occasionally get big wins but in the end always end up with full losing. Therefore, everytime i got a win from gambling, I immediately stopped and cashout all.
Big wins are even very rare and most times I have come to terms with the fact that if you ever get that big win, it is at the detriment of one other person that is losing pretty bad. One just have to cut way for the other.

It is just funny that even when some people end up having huge wins, they still always end up coming back to try out their luck even more until they lose everything while some might see it as a chance to invest what they have won and simply just play with the little they get from the investment later on without sweating it. Life requires being smart and that should always be the take home.

It is because they dont feel enough. The definiton of getting alot is different. Some people win 1 bitcoin for example but for him perhaps that is not enough that is why he keep coming back to win more. For some people, that is alot of money and he might not be coming back soon but when he use everything then he will come back again for sure
1920  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: November 01, 2017, 06:26:14 PM
gambling help my life from getting profit to use on my some financial needs. but dont defend on gambling at all time.
Maybe, but the profit we only get if we are lucky, and lucky is very hard to come to us. Even if you're more often unlucky than lucky, then the profit you get when you're lucky does not mean anything. It's too hard for us to expect help with gambling, even for financial problems.

That is if we can get profit from gambling but from what I have seen so far it is hard to get profit. I should say that we can get small profit but to be rich is completely hard. The only thing is to realize that we can win from gambling so it is better to treat it as entertainment. We can have fun but getting money is impossible, that is a good way of how gambling can made us realize this
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