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1901  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 31, 2016, 04:56:48 PM
Hashrate, or more specifically hashes are like lottery tickets.

The more tickets you have the more chances you have a winning ticket.
If you buy solo you need to have a winning ticket but you get the entire jackpot. If you pool your tickets you
gate a share of the jackpot if anyone in the pool holds the winning ticket based on the number of tickets in the pool.

Now change tickets to hashes and jackpot to block in the above.
That's kind of a bad analogy.
The problem with it (in the context of pool mining) is that you skip the part where you don't get more tickets because the pool buys more tickets.
Let's suppose:
The pool finds 10 jackpots per day*
You hold 10% of all tickets; you get 10% of the total jackpots (or 1 jackpot).
The pool grows 10x and scoops 10x more jackpots (100 jackpots per day*)
You now hold 1% of all tickets and you get 1% of the total jackpots(or 1 jackpot).


*for ease of explaining


Wrong. The tickets are only valid for one jackpot, then everyone starts from zero. Beyond that I have no clue what you are
trying to say.

The pool buying tickets makes no sense. The pool manager can mine like any other user. The pool is just the accumulation
of all the hash submitted by its users.


1902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 31, 2016, 04:08:52 PM
Hashrate, or more specifically hashes are like lottery tickets.

The more tickets you have the more chances you have a winning ticket.
If you buy solo you need to have a winning ticket but you get the entire jackpot. If you pool your tickets you
gate a share of the jackpot if anyone in the pool holds the winning ticket based on the number of tickets in the pool.

Now change tickets to hashes and jackpot to block in the above.
1903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels. on: July 31, 2016, 03:46:58 PM

Some pools have funky stats reporting also. I can't make sense of Coinmine having well over 60% of the hashrate, finds about 50% of the blocks, and still it somehow manages to estimate that it had 60% luck finding recent blocks (when it actually consistently has about 100% or worse). So yeah, something must be wrong with Yiimp  Grin

One of the things I've always liked about yaamp/yiimp is it has the most transparent stats of any pool. When one is able
to see more of the process there is a chance one will see some things they either don't understand or don't like but
have always existed.
1904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Recommend a CPU mining set up on: July 29, 2016, 03:47:02 AM
You just need a regular desktop with the fastest CPU you can afford, water cooled and overclocked. Make sure the
mobo supports OC and everything else can be stock. And of course use the miner in my sig. Wink

Thanks for the assistance. What I am planning to test mining on is https://z.cash/

Right now I think it can be mined only be CPU. They have a testnet and I would like to play around with mining there. Do you think it will switch to GPU mining later once a mainnet is already set up? I have noticed that most of the POW coins started with CPU mining then GPU mining later started. I have also read that the zcash developers want it only to be mined by CPU only. Is that possible?

Ooops, missed the part about zcash, my miner can't do it. Some algos are more difficult to mine with a GPU and are often
not worth the effort or don't provide the performance, but anything is possible, I mean a GPU miner is always possible
or it may never exist.

If zcash uses a brand new algo it may not have a third party miner available and may only be mineable from the wallet.
Miner development for new algos depends on interest in the coins that use them.
1905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Recommend a CPU mining set up on: July 28, 2016, 02:04:47 PM
You just need a regular desktop with the fastest CPU you can afford, water cooled and overclocked. Make sure the
mobo supports OC and everything else can be stock. And of course use the miner in my sig. Wink
1906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia GPU Mining Problems on: July 27, 2016, 10:45:07 PM

What is AFAIK? joblo  and when that neoscrypt or lyra2v2 that it crashes on once in a great while showing this sign, some people have reported that I think... but also happens at room temp too. There maybe to many cards for windows memory to handle. But will look into what you said.
Someone did say they were having problems with those private releases.
Thx

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=afaik

This the first time you posted this symptom, has it always crashed this way?
If you think it's the miner try a different one.
1907  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 27, 2016, 07:27:55 PM
Ok Crackfoo working again ...good on all algo's ....I don't use sha256 and scrypt algo's of course.  Wink

ok good. I'm going to go with this setup I think. Also note, that I've changed the stratum servers to a per-algo name.

 -o stratum+tcp://<algo>.mine.zpool.ca:<PORT> -u <WALLET_ADDRESS> [-p <OPTIONS>]

They all (except sha/scrypt) point to the original server anyway but in the future if I need to peel an algo off that server, it will be much simpler.

Thanks

It's getting a little complicated. Tell me if I've got this right

mine1 works except sha256 & scrypt
mine2 works sha256 & scrypt only
mine maps to mine1 except sha256 & scrypt
mine maps to mine2 sha256 & scrypt only
<algo>.mine maps to mine1 except sha256 & scrypt
<algo>.mine maps to mine2 sha256 & scrypt only
1908  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ccminer 1.8.0 with X11evo & lbry - opensource (tpruvot) on: July 27, 2016, 05:37:35 PM
also yes the z170 chipset is a bit ... light for multiple cards, check the max pci express lanes

Good point. Some lanes may be reserved for other devices like Sata Express. Check the BIOS config.
Sometimes multiple devices will share lane bandwidth. If that's occurring two GPUs in one lane may be too much.
1909  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ccminer 1.8.0 with X11evo & lbry - opensource (tpruvot) on: July 27, 2016, 04:35:29 PM
haha ok, the mobo cant handle more than 4 cards, crappy z170 is getting RMA'd

i'll report back when i get a new mobo that can handle 6 gpus, might also fix these errors

It's not a good idea to add more cards when you're troubleshooting. I would suggest isolating cards to determine
if the problem is tied to one specific card.
1910  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia GPU Mining Problems on: July 27, 2016, 04:11:16 PM

EDIT: I do have the temperatures of the cards set at a max.. to not exceed 79c ect.
And I use to get this  but was going to talk about it later.
Going to myr-gr  also on neoscrypt  so not related to algo but memory or ccminer? Maybe intensity setting.


Looks like a null pointer dereference. That's usually software but in your case it could be excess heat in the CPU or RAM.
How is the ventilation around the mobo? Maybe heat from the GPUs is destabilizing the CPU.

Edit: It could also be bad RAM. Make note if they are always the same, especially the instruction address.
It could be a bug in ccminer for neoscrypt lyra2v2 ect. not sure.
A fan at high speed but the temperatures were so high, room temp, that I turned off the rig at 1pm to 7pm some times...cooler temp on its way.
There's not much I can do until temps drop... it broke records.

If it was a bug others would likely also see it, but AFAIK no one else has seen this crash. You're getting corruption in the CPU domain
(core, cache, ram), either due to a HW fault or heat induced. If there is a pattern to the fault addresses it's probably a HW fault.
If the're random, probably heat induced.

Due to the extremely high ambient temperature your sensors may not detect overheating in places where it isn't expected.
1911  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 27, 2016, 03:26:10 AM
Still problems connecting. I tried a quark & lyra2v2, both worked only on mine1.
Edit: groestl worked on mine, m7m didn't.
Edit2: blake2s & lbry both connected to mine, maybe an intermittant problem.
1912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia GPU Mining Problems on: July 26, 2016, 09:28:33 PM

EDIT: I do have the temperatures of the cards set at a max.. to not exceed 79c ect.
And I use to get this  but was going to talk about it later.
Going to myr-gr  also on neoscrypt  so not related to algo but memory or ccminer? Maybe intensity setting.


Looks like a null pointer dereference. That's usually software but in your case it could be excess heat in the CPU or RAM.
How is the ventilation around the mobo? Maybe heat from the GPUs is destabilizing the CPU.

Edit: It could also be bad RAM. Make note if they are always the same, especially the instruction address.
1913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 26, 2016, 09:13:07 PM
I can no longer make a connection to lyra2v2 using mine.zpool.ca, mine1.zpool.ca worked.

can you try again? as well as mine2?

They all work for lyra2v2, didn't try other algos.
1914  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 26, 2016, 08:29:34 PM
I can no longer make a connection to lyra2v2 using mine.zpool.ca, mine1.zpool.ca worked.
1915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]: cpuminer-opt v3.3.8, Optimized Multialgo CPU miner on: July 26, 2016, 04:00:59 PM
I have further investigated the issues with the blake algos.

Decred never worked on Nicehash with cpuminer, but does work on zpool. This is a pool issue. I don't know
which pool is correct and I don't really care because I don't know how to fix it for Nicehash. Also as previously
mentioned the performance of most of the blake algos is pathetic on a CPU. I won't be spending any more
effort on this issue.

Blakecoin and vanilla both seem functional to the extent I could test them but they are also underperformers
and not deserving of any attention.

I will attempt to maintain the status quo but I don't see any potential of useful CPU mining of these algos.
1916  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 26, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
for the unbelievers: LBRY block came with just 400 Mh/s

I know eh! geeez, which more miners would pick it up.

This is not to disagree with pallas point about how luck work, ie any share submission at any time could solve a block.
but the "mine for long enough" notion does apply in how big a share of the block a miner receives. The share size is
determined by the average contributed hashrate over the entire block time, or more specifically the total hash contributed
to the block. If one has been mining for the entire 4 days their contribution, and payout, will be significantly larger than
someone who has been switching algos.

How that affects mining strategy I'll leave as an exercise for the readers.

This only applies to single coin pools, as is lbry, but with multicoin pools your accumulated share is consumed
by the first coin that gets solved, which may not be the same coin you contributed to. This adds another dimension
of luck to the equation, which coin gets solved first.

I mention this because it relates to my proposal for single coin pools, particularly high diff coins. Imagine if lbry also had
a shit coin in the pool. This would dramatically change the lbry block payouts under identical mining conditions. With the
shitcoin continually eating up acccumulated shares only those who have been mining just prior to the LBC block will get
a share of it, and a much bigger share.

For algos with high and low diff coins it would be good to be able to ensure the hash is contributed to the desired coin,
typically a higher diff coin.
1917  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]: cpuminer-opt v3.3.8, Optimized Multialgo CPU miner on: July 26, 2016, 02:49:42 PM
Hi, All!

Is there any profitability calculator like whattomine.com but for CPU? Plenty of algos is here, 30 GPU miners are waiting to load their CPUs ;-)

You can use the performance comparison chart in the OP to get a rough idea of the relative algo performance but it varies on
different CPUs. It's best to use your actual hashrates at whattomine.
1918  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 25, 2016, 04:51:55 PM
I am thinking the neoscrypt optimized version of ccminer has a bug that is causing the p-state error.

can someone else confirm this?

PROBLEM WITH CCMINER, NEOSCRYPT, AND P-STATE--

I had prblems with sp_ 's Private Miner and the NeoScrypt algo.  Frequently, CCminer would drop hash-rate to 1/2 or 1/3 speed on my GTX 960.  I would have to reset the card with Device Manager (disable/enable) and then run Precision X to make sure that the card was clocking correctly.  This caused problems when auto-switchiing., but did not always carry over into other algorithms when switched from NeoScrypt.       --scryptr

I've had a similar problem with any ccminer, on some cards but never others, but mostly triggered by neoscrypt. Been happening for
over a year.
1919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: █▓▒░-< [ZPOOL.CA][BTC Multipool] The miners multipool >-░▒▓█ Paid out 600+ BTC on: July 24, 2016, 11:56:53 AM

Same goes for learning if the nvsmi utility is on Linux as well. Haven't even checked.

It does exist on Linux but I've never tried it. It would be handy to remove the root restriction on nvidia-settings
for setting OC and fan speed, if it's persistent.
1920  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Nvidia GPU Mining Problems on: July 24, 2016, 11:48:14 AM
A note  7-21-2016
My rig mined all day with all cards with MC. Smiley
Room temp 92f  humidity 35%
For the four days before that the rig crashed at only 87f humidity 85%
Possibility the humidity played some role in the crashing on with the 970gtx that mines in p2 clocks default 1413 core.
Maybe micro dust.
This weeks temp are supposed to be record breaking 100f......... humidity.?    
Slowly one thing at a time to pin down the 3 things contributing to the crashing.
Due to heat I will have to shut down the rig for sometime during the day for the next 5 days.

EDIT:7-22-16 rig mined all day today with MC room temp max 95f hum 45% the only change I did was turn off oc'ing and set  "delay": 15  to "delay": 30.
So one problem is heat related cards changing algo's going from the p2 state to p8 state in order to mine or some call it spin down time.
The hotter it is the longer it takes for spin down.

Interesting observation. I never really considered that it would be more susceptible to crash when switching algos, or that
spin down time could mitigate.  Good to see you're making progress with your "heat chamber" testing.
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