I remember not too long ago these threads were a mile long. Forum teaming with life. Big money pours in buys up the ASICS then manufacturers start competing with each other. What your left with is a bunch of bag holders and no one left with any vision. Not that many had any other visions than getting rich quick. What you will start to see is fake fights within the devs so as to lead people on that it was a good thing they break up. Stop being played people this is a money grab from the get go. This system should have never been tied to money before it was ready. It’s like opening up a business with a product you have yet to make. Now everyone seems to judge success or not by the value of the coin vs whether or not it will have any real world use. Traders pumping up price add in a little tech article or two and buyers beware. Shitstorm a brewing! There is a reason why regulation came about. Bacuase people just can’t seem to do to others the same as they expect done to them. So there is always that one/group person that fucks it up so bad that the rest of us has to come in and regulate so as to keep them from doing harm to others. Free market doesn’t work when you start the game with an advantage. Again it’s like starting monopoly with billion dollars vs the rest of us plebs that usually start in debt. Open source decentralized wealth transfer system only works when the playing field is leveled. How that can ever come about I have no f ing idea. But at least the thought is there. I know that it is necessary for this to ever succeed without dire unintended consequences.
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Dude what is happening is very simple big money is coming in and buying cheap gear like the s-9,s-9i,s-9j, L3+ they have 3 and 4 cent power and they think they will earn profit edit bold : At this website most people don't have 3 and 4 cent power and are being squeezed out. |
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My paypal account is banned because of btc trade , but i still have the old btc address used at that time 1BNwtEPanWJ9VLdiJebtykQJgk3eEZFh52, and gmail account as well, peicaili@gmail.comso that is the old address of pcfli last used in 2017 there happens to be about 0.00031061 BTC left in it. So at least let me see if you control the address take the coin out of it. send it anywhere I don't care but if you can't empty the account the chances are you are not li. |
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Yes so price to price the 2080 is a better deal then the 2080ti only if the performance to performance ratio of 2080ti to 2080. Is the same ratio as the 1080ti to the 1080.
Yes Except for the fact that if you are looking at Dollar spent per Hash Rate, A used 1080 Ti is still your best investment. You can buy 1080 Ti on ebay for $525 ( shipped ) all day. The 2080ti will be lucky if its 30% faster at hashing than a 1080 Ti, yet it still will cost 100% more. I am saying the 2080 is worth it. Kind of maybe. The 2080ti is not worth it. A new 1080ti with a three year warranty can be had for about 575 A new 2080 with a three warranty can be had for about 750. Since I have 12 1080ti’s I purchased 1 2080. I would not buy a 2080ti for 1200. If the 2080 = the hash rate of the 1080ti and has low power per hash I will buy some more. As I pay 750 vs 575 for new with 3 year warranty in both cases. But do better on power then 1080ti’s I can’t tell unless I buy 1. Hmm... please show me where you can find a new 1080Ti for $575?  well here is the deal evga has an ebay sale store and the were selling them for 650 and ebay had a 15% off coupon so 650 - 97.50 was 552.50 deal was good for 2 days on the 27th and 28th of august. I got a new msi vega 56 for 399.49 using same 15% off coupon. sale is done with.  |
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Sold out how did I miss this?
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I purchased 13 moonlander2s
I did buy some resale ones maybe 5.
But I did purchases from crazy guy.
Two then maybe four. That’s six from him
I also was given one maybe from you
And I may have purchased one from klintay.
Total 13.
I also donated for your free software to save power on the l3s.
Since five were resale’s I would not think I should get a coupon for that purchase.
But the separate purchases from crazy guy. Would that mean I get two coupons of 25$
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First off how on earth do you store 100 k worth of stuff on only one trezor.
I have three trezors.
I have one Coinbase wallet.
I have three wallets with blockchain info.
Lastly I have a Bitcoin qt wallet.
If. My trezor calls for a firmware update I don’t do it. I first move the coin to a different wallet.
. I leave like 0.00000012 btc I do the firmware I check to see the new update kept the coin.
I transfer like 0.0010 back.
I see it took .
I transfer the 0.0005 of the 0.0010 to Coinbase.
Assume all this works I fill the trezor back to normal level.
I do this for all three trezors.
My position is this:
Coinbase
Trezor
Blockchain info wallets all have more power over my coins then I like.
So I have seven accounts between them.
My bitcoin core wallet I am pretty much in charge of so I try to back it up via clones.
Yeah it is a lot of extra work. But so far I have had only one issue I locked an ETH core wallet with two coins and have yet to access them.
A lot less then 100k. But still annoying.
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from a previous answer to same question
Thanks @philipma1957. Should have checked before I posted. Thanks for reposting it again. Appreciate it. you are about the 15th to ask including me  |
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http://ckpool.org/blocks/[PARENTDIR] Parent Directory -
[ ] 481797.confirmed 2017-08-23 17:20 32K
[ ] 496708.confirmed 2017-11-29 09:32 75K
[ ] 499370.confirmed 2017-12-14 22:11 91K
[ ] 502677.confirmed 2018-01-05 04:34 112K
[ ] 507708.confirmed 2018-02-04 22:14 139K
[ ] 511309.confirmed 2018-02-28 04:45 152K
[ ] 514811.confirmed 2018-03-23 09:40 163K
[ ] 514852.confirmed 2018-03-23 16:12 163K
[ ] 521726.confirmed 2018-05-08 02:46 183K
[ ] 524676.confirmed 2018-05-27 11:43 195K
[ ] 526351.confirmed 2018-06-06 18:50 200K
[ ] 526657.confirmed 2018-06-08 21:01 201K
[ ] 526993.confirmed 2018-06-11 09:13 202K
[ ] 527282.confirmed 2018-06-13 08:28 203K
[ ] 527356.confirmed 2018-06-13 21:48 203K
[ ] 527471.stale 2018-06-14 13:11 203K
[ ] 527499.confirmed 2018-06-14 21:07 204K
[ ] 527537.confirmed 2018-06-15 03:20 204K
[ ] 527954.confirmed 2018-06-17 16:40 205K
[ ] 528272.confirmed 2018-06-19 16:34 206K
[ ] 528394.confirmed 2018-06-20 12:17 206K
[ ] 528508.confirmed 2018-06-21 04:11 207K
[ ] 528932.confirmed 2018-06-23 20:19 208K
[ ] 529833.confirmed 2018-06-29 20:10 211K
[ ] 530019.confirmed 2018-07-01 03:09 211K
[ ] 530363.confirmed 2018-07-03 16:28 212K
[ ] 530371.confirmed 2018-07-03 19:01 213K
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[ ] 530771.confirmed 2018-07-06 14:05 214K
[ ] 531181.confirmed 2018-07-09 07:54 215K
[ ] 531196.stale 2018-07-09 10:12 215K
[ ] 531285.confirmed 2018-07-09 23:28 215K
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[ ] 532663.confirmed 2018-07-19 13:23 219K
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[ ] 536951.confirmed 2018-08-15 18:15 231K
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[ ] 537528.confirmed 2018-08-19 11:37 232K
[ ] 537830.confirmed 2018-08-21 13:09 232K
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[ ] 537980.confirmed 2018-08-22 12:33 233K
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[ ] 538597.confirmed 2018-08-26 13:58 235K
[ ] 538630.confirmed 2018-08-26 19:01 235K
Apache/2.4.10 (Debian) Server at ckpool.org that is full stats on every one we made. go to the link click a block and go to the bottom line the diff is there for each one. our latest one is right below http://ckpool.org/blocks/538630.confirmed{
"height": 538630,
"reward": 12.5291837,
"fee": 0.0,
"payouts": {
"3Cy7rpWHSzEJ42XRjUkACUdWE3KHiu3puP": 4.70891003,
"3QRZahE19MNqGFfgHZngUzGFVrmgkrFeuX": 2.81769357,
"36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V": 1.99605796,
"32WateUEijR9x59bNjVYyKLqDoq334xXVC": 0.84692464,
"1JPo4Na3LVTKSU311ny1k4pYGa9LSNTnR": 0.51494562,
"1FXusfoiNV7QTVrAwWd5bnuxxvZ5Hzf7md": 0.37682425,
"1EcH7pHYTHLo3cbdXfkf6e6Zh5JzCPGumc": 0.29663127,
"32LA7cmsj35LH7cK1MjvwyoLEmYpuWAD9k": 0.14734426,
"38M2zE9vcWoC6KLoTmjW1Ghh3m6TZ1xnHn": 0.11462808,
"34pBsnH6hics3VtFVk3CWnhFknfvRShFR8": 0.09462832,
"3Kfi5ZKnm8BJmpaDGdbjawPXEwEJ7FAWkD": 0.06117598,
"1MQqTCv74JL2TFfULftX4JXHBG7x4Yfw9X": 0.05515004,
NOTE I skipped many but look at the bottom
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"15NHX63AXcXbUSVa5ct41TkgBEcgHFC3fo": 476.783555987,
"1LEDCWtQNFEKWYj6Tsj21qTuQRxjiuXmiC": 444.948290819,
"3GopAQRaTxjFbbDsvGi2cRLm9aQLckScR1": 419.563049767,
"1L2sAq2s9yaxPNvd3ACDHw81MmdkQftMqm": 271.333923067,
"14deuRHbcPkeWAfitR6oiArm2EyonaAuo8": 265.709803232,
"1DkocMNiqFkbjhCmG4sg9zYQbi4YuguFWw": 129.805795817,
"3Lt27Y5ReXgLyh5dh4ADgSDSK6b4RSoK4S": 83.4010561041
},
"solvedby": "3QRZahE19MNqGFfgHZngUzGFVrmgkrFeuX",
"date": "[2018-08-27 00:01:01.936]",
"hash": "0000000000000000000dd607a82af4ddddaa84287839bcd255532418cdfd9ee3",
"shares": 778980388168,
"diff": 11.6 <<<< And there is the magic number
}
Where do you get those stats? Three is a record for us, at least since I've been here. I'll have a beerwhiskeywinescotchburbon to go with this triple block steak dinner.
Well trips it was for Sunday. Not bad. Maybe we do triple trips %? Sunday 3 Monday 3 Tues 3 this will have us under 100 For aug we did 11.6 6.1 149.1 61.7 1.2 53.1 116.3 7.6 220.2 165.4 70.3 166.1 174.2 5.0 178.6 247.8 4.9 47.8 92.1 9.1 1788.2 total for 20 blocks that is a 89.41 run very good |
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I saved a pdf of the thread. Just in case it is deleted.
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lets do it and drop to under 101!
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What about performance +? Talking about the T2T
the best setting for efficiency is the efficiency setting 17.50th and 1450 watts or 82 watts a th Efficiency ----- 17.50 th at 82 watts a th @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 19.55th and 1720 watt balance-------- 19.55 th at 88 watts a th @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ factory--------- performance--- 2376 watts my meter can not stand to do 2200 to 2400 watts long term I will do an hour test with meter attached edit Meter simply does not allow me to run at 2376 watts so I ended test. |
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I will ask in Monday if Pangolinminer guys have any news for me and you Philip.
Thanks Matti |
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default about 30TH, but you can change voltage and overclock it.
slushpool isnt supported yet
I was not contacted for demo unit to review it. I would want to test one myself. While it is nice that 30th can overclock I would like to know if it underclocks . If it does not work at slush it may have something to do with asicboost support on that pool. So ckpool is asicboost Bitminter is asicboost Does the miner work on those pools? F2pool also supports asicboost, it would be very interesting if the miner does not like any of those pools. Lastly Kano supports asicboost he claims he fixed a bug in pool software for asicboost. It would be interesting to see if he is the only asicboost pool that does well with this miner. |
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Yes so price to price the 2080 is a better deal then the 2080ti only if the performance to performance ratio of 2080ti to 2080. Is the same ratio as the 1080ti to the 1080.
Yes Except for the fact that if you are looking at Dollar spent per Hash Rate, A used 1080 Ti is still your best investment. You can buy 1080 Ti on ebay for $525 ( shipped ) all day. The 2080ti will be lucky if its 30% faster at hashing than a 1080 Ti, yet it still will cost 100% more. I am saying the 2080 is worth it. Kind of maybe. The 2080ti is not worth it. A new 1080ti with a three year warranty can be had for about 575 A new 2080 with a three warranty can be had for about 750. Since I have 12 1080ti’s I purchased 1 2080. I would not buy a 2080ti for 1200. If the 2080 = the hash rate of the 1080ti and has low power per hash I will buy some more. As I pay 750 vs 575 for new with 3 year warranty in both cases. But do better on power then 1080ti’s I can’t tell unless I buy 1. |
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The input costs to maintain a PoW network continue to grow at an exponential rate.
Bitcoin requires millions of dollars of electricity to feed it's wasteful energy appetite.
I have refuted this claim more than once. Bitcoin energy consumption is determined by both network hash rate and efficiency of the miners. The latter improves through time because of Moore's law and the first won't grow exponentially because of negative impacts of halving and price corrections that de-incentivize mining. I could say, in mid-term we would be experiencing a significant drop in electricity usage of bitcoin network and in long term this figure will be many times lower than what it is today because there wouldn't be enough issuance of new bitcoins. In the current state of its development, bitcoin network is producing a commodity and like any other production process it consumes resources. In the future when this issuance/production is significantly dropped the energy consumption will drop comparatively. PoW doesn't require energy explicitly for transaction processing. In my design of PoCW I have inserted a hashcash like feature to the system that allows wallets to take part in the security, such that in each halving this role becomes more important and eventually would be the dominant factor for securing the network. It is just one example of many possible improvements in bitcoin for confronting zero-issuance situation. PoS alternatives are focused on transaction processing and remain silent about the issuance problem. Inflation in PoS is morally unacceptable and economically void. It resembles fiat money inflation. Even hybrid PoS coins are the same as long as they have issuance of new coins based on stakes. A PoS system without issuance is nothing more than a second layer protocol for bitcoin (one may suggest to understand LN as a PoS network on top of bitcoin) and with issuance, it is just a scam no matter how big and popular it is, it is a scam just like USD.
Ethereum community is a good example of how a decent ecosystem could be corrupted by PoS ideas: Right now their big stake holders (Buterin and his Foundation on top) are imposing their short term interests regularly by adopting frequent hard forks to intervent issuance of ETH. A coin, more than 75% pre-mined, now is actively politicized by the big shots to bump its price by any means and in the best interests of coin/stake owners. Now, before PoS, they have trouble with miners because they need security which is still provided by miners. Once this coin is PoSed you will have a mafia on top of the system who is in charge of any critical decision including inflation rate without any objective factor to keep them on the track. Any honest observer understands what I'm saying about the situation with Ethereum and the misery PoS infection has brought to its community and the inevitable failure of it in the near future. The failure that has been signaled already and is based on the subjective understanding of cryptocurrency that PoS enthusiasts are infected with. According to this subjectivism, crypto is about solving a problem, monetary system, by means of computer and communication. A reputation based system is what a junior programmer re-discovers every single day he feels confident enough to tackle this problem. Before bitcoin they were mainstream and now they are back in the name of PoS. No matter what is the label, they have failed and will fail not because of this or that design flaw but because "monetary system" is not a problem to be solved, it is a socio-economic phenomenon that should be re-built. It is what PoW and bitcoin have managed to do, they have built a new monetary system by consuming energy and resources. Pos is fundamentally the same as buying a cd from a bank.. And no protections that a bank offers. So interest is higher for the pos coin then the cd. Pos = crash and burn |
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So the overall sentiment is that the price is not worth it?
I purchased 1 EVGA RTX 2080 Cost was 750 It is worth having one of them. I don’t see that a 1200usd 2080ti is going to be much better then the 2080 The 2080ti has 11gb RAM at a faster mem speed. It'll be a similar difference as between the 1080 and 1080ti. I agree but 1200/750 vs 700/500 means the 2080ti cost 60% more then the 2080 and the 1080ti cost 40% more then the 1080 so the 2080 is better then the 1080 I was talking about performance, not price. Price is set by demand, expense, and market factors, not an accurate reflection of performance. Yes so price to price the 2080 is a better deal then the 2080ti only if the performance to performance ratio of 2080ti to 2080. Is the same ratio as the 1080ti to the 1080. |
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nVidia cards for CN7... and on Nicehash... lol!
All kinds of wrong.
What makes it wrong by the way? it means on every type/series of GPUs has advantages/disadvantages to some algorithm of coins. such as AMD series almost all excellent in EThash algo and NVIDIA excellent in Equihash algo. So he/she considers that 1050ti is not suitable for CN7 and NH often referred to as automatic coin switches. except mine are locked into 1 algo cn7 i don't use switching option. and I use xmr from GitHub to mine I point at nicehash for now. As that rig is paid off and will soon be changed around. As it is a developmental rig. FloppyPurpleGherkin looks at coins in a different manner then I do. We use different styles to mine for a profit. Yes here is a different rig mining eth and cn7 https://www.nicehash.com/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3this has 3 1080ti's they mine eth a ryzen 2700 cpu it mines cn7 this rig earns 4 a day power is 600 watts or 15k-watts at 10 cents that is 1.50 so it profits 2.50 a day it cost more then 2500 usd to build do the math it would take more then 1000 days to pay off but it is paid off from when times were good. so I take the 2.50 a day. I also mine btg and hodl it I have about 16 coins I earn about .333 coins a day which is around 7 dollars I spend about 36kwatts a day to mine them or 3.60 my long term is to mine 100 coins and hodl I make about 3.40 usd a day on this coin. So I am earning under 7 dollars a day on my gpus. I was earning more then 400 a day last december. |
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Seriously? He still has the video up on Youtube as if nothing happened.
he has a zec and a btc somewhere he said the zec was no longer working. I think in alt coin thread here |
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I don't see any indication that the 2 "legs" are connected in anyway other than the fan. If it does materialize it's more likely they threw on the 2 just for the sake of appearance, and the illusion of a big beefy machine full of power. That's all they would need to do with this variation of a "cloud mining" scam. Seems to me this is essentially a token machine you are receiving for buying a longterm mining contract, the consumer just doesn't know it.
I have to check into the Vosk thing, but do these "super" miners not have a local controller IP to log into to. It should be easy enough to see that the machine is only putting out - X TH/S
There are a lot of people with money who just want to buy in while trying to future proof. Those are the people that stand to lose a large amount of money, because they don't know any better.
I have a guy with 100 megawatts to burn he is not even bothering to check them out. The problem is they mine first to the server of asicminer after that who knows what happens. Vosk has had issues with one of the two products sent to him the Zec model stopped hashing in under 2 days. The btc miner was still showing hash. |
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