It's only transactions going out that use new addresses though, right? If transactions coming in are to the same address, then you don't have to worry, because it will only create one new address. That is correct. And the backed up 'vault' idea is also correct. But we are not all hoarding money. I assume you have a bank account right? You deposit money and you EXTRACT money to pay bills. When you die, the account can be liquidated. Most people are not so fortunate that they can dump money in one direction entirely (never dipping into those funds ever again) for the benefit of their estate. At some point, most people will need to use the money (that is not STORED, but) BACKED UP on the bottom of the ocean. BitCoin presents no good analogy to the current system. I can backup money (vault) while still having access to money (copy). I am only advocating that a backup actually be a reliable backup. Anonymity through obfuscation is not the only use case. Control is another. "If transactions coming in are to the same address, then you don't have to worry, because it will only create one new address." i don't understand this statement. with an incoming receive tx, where is the new address created other than the one you've given to the sender? |
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Well, 8 connections is usually a sign of port 8333 being closed. Which protocol did you open 8333 port on your computer, TCP or UDP? Try opening both
opened it with UDP, doesn't seem to help. still only 8 connections. and no new blocks. edit: i am mapping these ports in "Network Connections" and I checked the box in the Bitcoin GUI for "Map port using Upnp" is there another step i am leaving out? at this pt i wouldn't complain about "only" 8 connections |
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kjj, how'd u find the block?
I just clicked back through the chain until I saw a 9000 -> 8999 + 1 transaction around the right date. i assume u did this in Block Explorer. just went there and they only have the last 20 or so blocks listed? how'd u search further back? also how did u know what date the block got solved? You can click all the way back to the genesis block by using the Previous Block links. Stone Man posted about the loss here on the forums the next day. geez, u clicked back almost a year? sounds like u had to remember that Stone Man posted here on the forum, search back for the post and date, and then u knew about how far back u had to go. the point i'm trying to ascertain is if u didn't know that info and u were looking back in time for this tx, u would have to patiently click back and examine each block carefully for that 8999. altho in this case it is easy to spot. what if u were looking for some .01 btc tx? You can also skip blocks by typing www.blockexplorer.com/b/[BLOCK#] here again, u have to know the block # ur lookin for. |
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kjj, how'd u find the block?
I just clicked back through the chain until I saw a 9000 -> 8999 + 1 transaction around the right date. i assume u did this in Block Explorer. just went there and they only have the last 20 or so blocks listed? how'd u search further back? also how did u know what date the block got solved? You can click all the way back to the genesis block by using the Previous Block links. Stone Man posted about the loss here on the forums the next day. geez, u clicked back almost a year? sounds like u had to remember that Stone Man posted here on the forum, search back for the post and date, and then u knew about how far back u had to go. the point i'm trying to ascertain is if u didn't know that info and u were looking back in time for this tx, u would have to patiently click back and examine each block carefully for that 8999. altho in this case it is easy to spot. what if u were looking for some .01 btc tx? |
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kjj, how'd u find the block?
I just clicked back through the chain until I saw a 9000 -> 8999 + 1 transaction around the right date. i assume u did this in Block Explorer. just went there and they only have the last 20 or so blocks listed? how'd u search further back? also how did u know what date the block got solved? |
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this is a great thread! learning alot!
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kjj, how'd u find the block? |
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A guy once lost 9.000 BTC by restoring a backup produced before a send transaction which had these 9.000 as input. That motivated Satoshi to implement the pool of addresses feature. EDIT: Here's the topic: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782.0as i recall it was 9000 btc! actually 8999 8999X$8.70= $78291  |
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A guy once lost 9.000 BTC by restoring a backup produced before a send transaction which had these 9.000 as input. That motivated Satoshi to implement the pool of addresses feature. EDIT: Here's the topic: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782.0as i recall it was 9000 btc! actually 8999 |
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A guy once lost 9.000 BTC by restoring a backup produced before a send transaction which had these 9.000 as input. That motivated Satoshi to implement the pool of addresses feature. EDIT: Here's the topic: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=782.0as i recall it was 9000 btc! |
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Sorry cypherdoc, I don't understand your question. What are you trying to achieve?
yeah, that question didn't make sense. is there a way to open terminal and have all your command lines pre-saved and in place so all u have to do is then hit enter? |
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"(11) Once your blocks are downloaded and connections established, you can quit the Bitcoin application and Terminal, and then reopen Bitcoin without Terminal in future times, and your Bitcoin application should remember the connections." this is not true. at least for me. u have to go thru the whole process each time. |
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No problem. Once it connects to few more peers it should remember them and in the future you should be able to connect to the network just by clicking on the bitcoin icon
edit: you should still look into how to open/forward port 8333
on a Mac, if u launch the Bitcoin app from the Dock, what terminal command would u use to find it: still use cd desktop or something else? |
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boosts ur confidence in the system doesn't it? everythings up there all stored in the cloud.
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BTW, can anyone make sense of the Account History at mtgox? i know he's supposed to take 0.65
% on each end of the tx but when i review my limit orders i see i'm paying a higher price than my limit order usu. around .04 btc higher AND the number of btc i order is reduced by some odd amount. has anyone done an extensive audit of their accts over there to ensure accuracy?
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I'm calling it a Mike.
"Gimme one coffee to go, please." "That'll be 500 mikes, pal." I like it. i like Mike? |
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Why should I trust your VM? For all I know you included a cron job to send my coins to your address.
edit: also heads up recent news says Dropbox doesn't securely encrypt anything
link please. |
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the network has been very slow recently and the last update seems to have problems connecting. leave the client open for a long while and once the entire blockchain downloads u should then receive ur btc's
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will i have to launch that command line each time i want to open the client for now?
if you use terminal app only to start bitcoin.app then all you need to do is hit the "up" arrow and it will display the command (from the terminal history file) and just press enter. if you use terminal app for a bunch of other stuff, you might want to press Ctrl - R first and then type bitc or any other unique string from the bitcoin start command. Ctrl - R starts search in your terminal history and will save you the arrow up/down browsing. i'd like to know what has changed in bitcoin network that 'prevents' mac client app to connect i'd guess it's the random irc channel the up arrow is a cool idea except that i have to enter "cd desktop" first. |
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