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1921  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: November 01, 2017, 06:26:14 PM
gambling help my life from getting profit to use on my some financial needs. but dont defend on gambling at all time.
Maybe, but the profit we only get if we are lucky, and lucky is very hard to come to us. Even if you're more often unlucky than lucky, then the profit you get when you're lucky does not mean anything. It's too hard for us to expect help with gambling, even for financial problems.

That is if we can get profit from gambling but from what I have seen so far it is hard to get profit. I should say that we can get small profit but to be rich is completely hard. The only thing is to realize that we can win from gambling so it is better to treat it as entertainment. We can have fun but getting money is impossible, that is a good way of how gambling can made us realize this
1922  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 01, 2017, 06:17:27 PM

It's the reason why we have to be aware that every time we gamble we need to know our limitations. It is all starting there, if you are not conscious of your limitation that will start to make you addicted. You win without thinking of limitation and you gamble without limitation. That's likely very possible to give you an angle of becoming addicted soon as gambling is simply addicted when we are winning.

some people know their limit but they try to push that limit over them. Sometimes people that keep pushing themselves doesnt know when to stop and it is bad which could make them heavily addicted someday. I have been getting through this stage already so I know better than most people how it feels to be addicted when you are pushing over your limit

They know they limit but they can't control their minds. It's hard to control when you are in that moment that you are thinking that gambling will help you to survive when you are in times of needs. In this time if you are feeling the same way like those gamblers better to shutdown your computer or things will get worst.

That means they dont know their limit right. If they know their limit then they should stop once they reach that limit. Some people keep saying that they cant control it. I know it is hard but when they have tried their best they should be able to do it. Just like me, I reached this state after keep on doing it and following the limit that I set
1923  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: November 01, 2017, 04:24:38 PM
before i dont have limit to myself. and thats the thing that ive learned during gambling. and its a must to have

Some people say this but they dont really spend some time to devote it. Some people play and forget that they have the limit. Some people keep playing and keep on wasting alot of money. It is fine for me if they can afford that but even if they could , they still need to maintain some limit so that they dont really get overboard with it all the time
1924  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: November 01, 2017, 04:22:22 PM
Investing is always smart thing to do, because you have better chance to make profit in long term. But in Gambling 99% chance, you will lose it.

Well, it depends on how you do gambling and on where you are investing your money, you could continue doing gambling if you are making good profits on it, the same goes on Investing, you just have to realize if you excel on either of the two, because if you are just going to barge in without any knowledge in gambling or in Investing, then just stop and don't ever use your money, just hold it.

It is not the same for both of it. Some people think that it is the same but investing and gambling is like polar opposite. If we want to make money then simply stay away from gambling is the best thing that we could but if we want to have fun then gambling should provide the fun that we need. Although Im not sure that alot of people want to just have fun
1925  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 01, 2017, 03:46:22 PM
If you are addicted to gambling then I am afraid you will not know when to stop you will just keep gambling until you will lose all of your savings.
Well in gambling I set a limit like I will bet 10$ and I will stop once I get 20$ from it and If I lose I will never deposit again 10$ to win that lost amount of money back. You should know that gambling doesn't give you anything instead of loss.

But they eventually stop when they become bankrupt and so it isn't that they don't know when to stop but they just can't stop because they are motivated by flimsy excuses that they are going to turn in profit somehow and this deception gets them into a worse state..

But dude the worst thing is they will not stop if they lose all of there money right? Even if they lose all of there money they will just try to get money from someone else thinking that they will get the lost money back but instead of winning back they lost the loaned amount too. I Really don't like gambling because maybe I have never tasted the pleasure of getting fast and easy profits from gambling.

Some people stop, I did stop when I lose everything but sometimes people dont even realized that they need to stop. People are really messing around with their money nowadays without realizing that it is very hard to make money nowadays. They will ended up regretting their decision if they dont stop especially when they have already lose alot and keep going
1926  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: November 01, 2017, 03:42:34 PM
I could not agree more with you mate. Gambling can just be one of the many places we can spend some of our money to be entertain and have fun and not necessarily make gambling as our main source of income.
Only a very few people are gambling just to be entertained and have some fun with their money. When you say that it is not necessary to make gambling as major source of income, you have to think about it again. There are so many gamblers struggling with this argument, they are supporting themselves for being a full time gambler because it is their own source of income as they are earning good with it.

It should not be a source of income and you are right.
It is mwant to entertain us and I think they are banning players now which are too much addicted with gambling.
Somehow they are monitoring every player in sites.
If he really wants to make it an income then do it at a larger scale for a one time big win like a poker tournament.
You will really have to be good to stay to the finals though.

Some people make it as source of income and that is weird. Some people dont know what it likes to lose all the money that is why they could keep on playing like that. For someone like me that has already lose alot, I know what it feels to know that I cant make any money from gambling site that is why trading is the better choice for that
1927  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 31, 2017, 06:56:03 PM

It's the reason why we have to be aware that every time we gamble we need to know our limitations. It is all starting there, if you are not conscious of your limitation that will start to make you addicted. You win without thinking of limitation and you gamble without limitation. That's likely very possible to give you an angle of becoming addicted soon as gambling is simply addicted when we are winning.

some people know their limit but they try to push that limit over them. Sometimes people that keep pushing themselves doesnt know when to stop and it is bad which could make them heavily addicted someday. I have been getting through this stage already so I know better than most people how it feels to be addicted when you are pushing over your limit
1928  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: October 31, 2017, 06:36:27 PM
People who gamble will never accept loses , they only want to win right? .
And that is a wrong thought really , the thought like that come from your greedy indeed .
No wonder there's a lot of people keep playing even though you have achieved more loses. It is not normal in general but really normal in gambling.

Not everyone is like that because I can convince you that I am different. The people that only play for fun like me doesnt really care if we win or lose because the main point is not about winning and getting alot of money but to be having fun. If you are not playing for fun then you are not really going to understand what it means to play for fun
1929  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: October 31, 2017, 06:22:54 PM
Once someone is bankrupt there is no other choice then giving up because we cannot make bets without money but by that time, most gamblers covert into addicted gamblers and they are unable to stop themselves so they go for other options like borrowing or betting wives.

Now this is the worst kind of gambling which is basically an insult of women. I have never ever supported this activity not even for the sake of fun.
This really sucks. And I really do not know how people tend to end up not being able to control their impulse when it gets to this. Either they just lack self control or they are just too dumb to see that fact that you cannot always keep trying your luck everytime, as there is a limit to everything.

Even luck understands that fact and that is why everyone cannot have that luck at the same time. It is really worst and I usually pity those around these addicts as they are always the ones who usually end up being affected as those addicts could not simply control themselves, let alone care about the people they are hurting in the process.

No one can be lucky when it comes to gambling or atleast lucky all the time. We simply think that we are lucky that day which makes us hard to stop . We win one time and we want to try again thnking that we can win again. That happened alot of time to me until I lose alot of money. That made me realize that it was the time for me to stop
1930  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 31, 2017, 06:19:46 PM
Try to find things which is much more important than gambling. Its very hard to stop if you really prioritize gamble. Try to slowly erase it and fill it with your new discovered things and make it your hobby. Be persistent and patience, as time goes by, you will be slowly not craving for it and will be much more into your new hobby. I hope that the one you choose to replace the gambling should produce good result and not harm your self so that you can have a much more better life.

It is even hard to find something that you like and change it with gambling. If we keep gambling that means we like to gamble that is why it will be hard for us to get out of this. If we cant get out of it then dont strain at all but better to take it slowly like me. I dont really play alot anymore but I am still playing although with only small amount for fun
1931  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 31, 2017, 11:46:54 AM
In my opinion, I don't considered trading as gambling, they are different from each other even if they are both have money involve. In trading we need some knowledge and skills for us to earn profit. While in gambling, we just let our bet in that kind of what game it is and wait if we were going to win or not. We can't control what will be the result when we bet in gambling but in m trading there is a possibility that we can gain profit because of our good knowledge and skills about trading.

They are different but not really that different. In some area they are almost the same but some people dont notice it. In term of making money then trading is alot better than gambling but still alot of people choose gambling because it is much simpler. People will always choose something that is simple for them because they dont want to learn and do some hard work to get money
1932  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 31, 2017, 11:33:24 AM
Many gamblers know that they can't win money from gambling but they keep on gamble again and again but not with a small amount. Some people even borrow money from others to gamble. That means they never learn from their past gambling mistakes.

Are you doing this kind of gambling mistake?
Yes. I admit that I gamble and come back even if I often losses my money. However, It doesn’t come to a point yet where I would borrow money just to play more and loss more in the end. I always set limitation for it will be my signal on when to stop since thru this I am also avoiding addiction from it. Maybe this is what other people who losses big time lacks, the limitation to oneself.

You do it right, i also learn from my mistake of gambling, everyday i learn it, and its mean we have a good quality to learning and keep ourself maintain in gambling and avoid bad habits like borrow money to others and become addicted. Then lose and win always happen in gambling, sometime gambling bless us with winning and mostly we have lost in our betting, so that's all are normal, only learn from mistakes.    

Everyone should learn from their mistake because eventually we are going to lose everything. If we have already lose everything then it is going to be hard for us. When we were having hard situation then we will realize it sooner or later that we are actually doing something wrong. That is when we realized and learned from our mistakes
1933  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 27, 2017, 12:34:29 AM
Lol! So you are making fun of other gamblers regarding the way they behave during game. What I like about your view is that you remained very honest and realistic because we all gamble just for money or you can say money and fun. A gambler can never eliminate money factor from his mind whenever he is gambling. If just fun is desired, it can be achieved through many other ways.

Well for me I could eliminate it. It is not something important for me because what I seek is fun. If I could have fun then that is enough for me. Some people feel that it is useless to play for fun but for me it is not. When you have already know that you cant win at all then there is no point to play for profit anymore right so I choose to play for fun
1934  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: October 26, 2017, 06:28:11 PM
Actuality i was gamble to make profit but last few years i do it for fun and very little amount though. i can not risk my life savings money

You dont really need to risk everything if you play for fun. IF you could as well stop everything and leave than that would be much better. If you cant then just set up some small limit and play for fun. That is what alot of people do nowadays as more and more people realized that we cant be rich from gambling so it is useless to play for profit
1935  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 26, 2017, 06:12:44 PM
Quitting Gambling is not an easy task for everyone, But it can be an easy task if anyone can be determined to do so. so that Gambling also can be avoided if you can set up your mind following as so. that is why at first you have to make proper planning for getting rid of this system. An alternative system would be a useful thing for quitting gambling.

It is not easy but it is not something impossible as well. Some people make it sounds like it is a very impossible thing to do. Even if they cant really quit yet, they could always set up some limit and play for fun just like what I do. If we do it this way then we wont have to worry about losing alot of money when we gamble and that is the main point, to save money
1936  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: October 26, 2017, 06:09:39 PM

Good for you, finally you have realized that you are not going to get any in gambling, gambling will just eat all of your money, and it is too risky. I've also experience too much loses on gambling, that is why I've come up to a decision that I will quit gambling and I just did, and now, just like you, I'm also saving my bitcoins rather than spending it on gambling.

Some people finally realized it but some people may be playing again after they realized it.  It is hard to quit just like that. It happened to me as well but I didnt really quit just like that but instead I decided to play for fun so that I didnt go back to how I was. I was really frustated of how I got too addicted everytime I play and lose alot
1937  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 26, 2017, 05:13:58 PM
The risks are very different because gambling does not recognize fundamental analysis, gambling is only applicable for short-term analysis, trading is not in a hurry and is not always done in one period unless traders play margins and other options options. It is very clear that trading is different from gambling.
Only in theory, how many people around the forum, buy into icos or buy a coin with no regards whether it was the right time to do so, many I suppose, so these people are not really investing they are gambling with their money and there is not other way to put it.

Alot of people buy into icos of course but alot of people make it looks like gambling. It is the same as gambling because buying ICOs means you are playing with your own money. You could be lucky if the coins are going to be pumped but what if it is not? It is the same as gambling right in one sense if you tink it like what I am thinking
1938  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: October 26, 2017, 05:11:42 PM
Hi guys!
We all know that gambling is not only a fun but also potential danger. So are you limiting yourself somehow when gambling? DO you use casino's instruments to prevent you spending more money?
Or do you just limit yourself by setting a certain amount of money to spend? Or you don't limit yourself at all?
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
Yours OshiHugo, Oshi.io CM

I limit myself in gambling. I don't want to loss a lot of money. I prefer to set a limitation so that I can track my money whereabouts. Putting it all in gambling is too risky.
I am really shocked of all those who wanted to be experts in gambling. And like now, you are talking about the experts, how they do. Limiting yourself in best option in all walks of your life but don’t do this in gambling.

Why you are making yourself victim of addiction that kills you. Although you have set a limit, still the addition is coming up towards you. Leave this gambling.
Addiction would always come after if you do play gambling on constant basis which you do involve yourself on it for more times even you put on your mind on putting some limits but those limits are meant to be broken if you do still play gambling on constant basis.Playing gambling isnt bad but you should really know the responsibilities that you should do.

That is why it is better for someone not to gamble but I wont really blame people that gamble and get addicted because I am like that as well. It is hard to resist the temptation to play however the worse thing is not being able to control the limit we use when we gamble. Alot of people then destriy their life when they gamble unreasonably
1939  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 26, 2017, 05:10:29 PM
For me the smart way to play gambling is you know for your self when to stop or your limits in playing. It is also a smart and wise way when you already win big in the game you stop already because it might be in the next game you are not lucky anymore you might regret you never stop.

Thats the smart play that we both could agree on but the other smart play is to play for fun. We can use the rest of our money as investment. It will be so much better if you could quit but some people might not be able to quit. If I could quit then I would and use all my money as invesment. Leave the limit thing because I wont be gambling anymore
1940  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 26, 2017, 05:03:00 PM
I knew few people whos into gambling addiction,they always says that they have learn from mistakes upon losing and no budget to play,but when they have another amount to in hand.those mistakes will happen again,and again.what ever i adviced then yet nothing happens
Although everyone already know about their mistake that they usually done in gambling, but still they find it hard to over them, because they always try to make more money in short time, but for every time they do not succeeded and they just waste the time. I think we need top lay gambling in such a way that we can over come all our mistakes.
yeah due gambling addiction you would always ignore everything and just follow your guts that actually more to greedy. not surprising at all as gambling full of addictive things , you would always make things that considered as a mistake like chasing your losses , put the money that actually not belong to you etc. that's the fact.

Some people will ignore everything that is important for them but some people will not. I am addicted but Im not really going to abandon everything . Some people might abandon everything but that kind of thing is definitely not for me. I did make the same mistake in the past but Im well over that so I wont repeat the same mistake anymore
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