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1921  Economy / Speculation / Re: What happens next if Bitcoin drops to zero? on: February 02, 2023, 11:37:26 PM
1. Will Bitcoin ever fall to zero someday?
2. What happens if it ever falls to zero?
1. There is extremely little chance that the price of bitcoin will ever reach zero. Bitcoin's value has increased with time, making it impossible for anybody to imagine a moment when it will cost nothing. Bitcoin's value may decline, but not to the point of being worthless. There are some things we shouldn't put too much importance on. A bitcoin price drop to zero is one

2. That ought to be the end of digital currencies. Nothing like internet trading and investing will be trusted by anyone.
There's no forever and we know that nothing do last forever but basing up on Bitcoin and looking into its demand then we can really say that it is hardly to believe that it would become valueless.

As long there's demand and recognition and popularity then there's no way that we could go back to $0.If it happens then pretty sure that there's a huge problem in regarding into its technical code or similar
aspect which would really be resulting in losing integrity and security of it which we know that if trust is broken then people would just easily jumped ship into those current new ones
which do have more better features and opportunities.
1922  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts on: February 02, 2023, 11:33:22 PM
If that 5 usd are problem, then give me back my 560 usd back to me, why to take my money, my deposits? Doesnt have reason for it
Don't you get it?
The casino is run by scammers, so obviously they didn't expect you to even win anything. They wanted all the $560 to themselves. Their goal is so that they always win, and you never profit from their casino. Once you win, they will block your account, log you out and then say that violated their TOS which they never even specify by the way.

I am still not sure why you folks keep using 1xbit despite knowing that it's a scam casino
We know that not all do able to see or hover around into this forum and the rest or most of those victims are total noobs which arent that aware of this forum existence and the negative words that we do have against 1xbit.If they had just able to read it up then they might able to save up their asses on being scammed and lost their money.We've been keeping on telling alerts and advises and for those who are
really that mindful about their money before they would be depositing into such platforms then its not really that time consuming nor  does really cost you and arm and leg to make out some research
which it wouldnt be hard to find this place all along.It is really just a matter of effort and time to make out research and make up decisions basing into that.
1923  Economy / Economics / Re: What was your lowest point financially? How did you go through it ? on: February 02, 2023, 09:34:37 PM
I was newly married and my wife was pregnant, we had no bed to lay our head and we just moved in to a new city far from relatives meaning there was no backup plan.... We did the following
1. We cut down our budget
2. We found out our skills examples my wife could make hair so we made a small sign post...
3. We needed money to start up but interest rate was to high for loan... So we borrowed from our mum and paid gradually without cohesion
4. We invested in BTC and hodl for long term...
5. We started giving you the poor around us and also we stopped collecting money from our parents and started giving money to them, honestly I don't mean to be too spiritual but this is the last key that unlocked our fortunes... They prayed for us and blessed us.... Since then we have never gone back to lack....

Your story really touches my heart. It must be extremely stressful to have a family without any reliable income sources. You really see a lot in life, and this goes to show that investing in bitcoin is a good idea and that parents' prayers are a blessing to everyone, before you are lack and now you are no more lack, wow I'm really happy for you.
Being thankful and praying up above or lets say we do attached up ourselves into divine things is recommendable but not something that you cant really say that this is the reason on why you had made yourself

get away from those hardships but rather it is really that result of your sacrifices and hardwork or even into those wise decisions that you had made out and this is the reason on why you do be able to get out.

Of course we shouldn't really forget to give thanks and be grateful for the good things that along the way.Both things are connected to each other.As an individual then you shouldn't really that forget on
these details. Challenges and problems is one of the most common thing and inevitable ones for someone to face on and its part of living and this is why we should face it out.
1924  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: February 02, 2023, 08:28:19 PM
Anything more than 1.98x is more risky for me. I have seen many people losing their bets at 1.99x.
I think 1.98x is still safer. Anything less than 1.10 is a lot riskier. You are basically going all in for just a mere 10% profit which is insane.
Just to make a 2x gain you will have to place 6-8 bets considering you are compounding your bets.
So the ideal range for me is between 1.3x to 1.98x. I generally place all my bets inbetween this range.
It depends on the match, 1.9 odd is not that different from 2x odds too, I have chose 2 odds before many times that I won, it depends on the match and the players that are available to play the match. I have seen many people losing bet to less than 1.99 odds several times too, it depends. There were days I chose 2 odds and I won, there were days I chose less than $1.99 odds that I lost.1.98, 1.99 and 2 odds are even similar.

Sometimes I still go for 1.2 and 1.25 odds, but I prefer it to be 1.5 to 2 odds most times.
When considering risk factor and your own preference on what odds you would really be accepting before you could make some bet then it would really be depending on your.Just like yours on which i do consider out

bets which is 1.5x above and going lower with that number isnt something that i couldnt really consider and this is why there's no point on risking out your funds when you do see 1.01 odds or even lower.

Just like on what most people been saying here is that there's no 100% guaranteed win because upsets could really happen on betting world.There's no such thing about one sided game.
Yes, we could really have those impressions basing up on stats but we know that unfortunate events could happen on stronger teams which causes for them to lose.
1925  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The patience to hold is a gift on: February 02, 2023, 08:20:23 PM

Recommending someone to invest in Bitcoin is some how risky. If the don't have the patience to wait for the bull season to commence the might sell at a loss and but the blame on the introducer. And many likes attributing their failures to someone then their success to their personal effort. I have learnt from past experience that before I recommend Bitcoin to a newbie I will first ask how long the can hold for and that will determine if I will be willing to proceed with guidance or end it there.


It is never an option to tell someone to buy bitcoin if they are a newbie and have no knowledge about what bitcoin is and what it does. If they know the fundamental of bitcoin and its usage, then they will obviously HODL till its value is high enough to give them the profit.
Don't ask them how long they can HODL. Instead teach them the basic of Bitcoin.
Teach them if they had been asking but if not then pretty sure that the do already know and already aware on what are the things that they should gonna do.This is why it would really be that depending

on how someone would really be handling out their investment because not all would really be that good on doing so due to some common factors specially on the time of FUds and anxiety towards the market
specially on bear times where everybody could really be in panic.When you do have some future holding plans towards your assets or coins then you should stand strong with it and wont really be letting yourself
that get affected for whatever things that you would really be able to encounter which this had always been the main concern and something that cant be predicted on whatever actions you would make along the way.
1926  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: February 02, 2023, 06:56:24 PM
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I agree with you, from the public I formation shared or show growth in the over operation of the casino and that is why we mostly refer the complainant to contact support,  it seems Bitvest and it sister casino are already done with marketing and promotion and their build a good community of loyal players, who have stayed with the casino no matter what condition their funds their self some time ago.
*I am glad that despite the owner not being active in public, they're working underground to make sure the casino function at its best.
*And it seems their banroll investment is still as strong as it used to be back then even though investors shared profits percentage is not near that of another casino in the class that also offers bankroll investments.
When we do speak about against competitors or simply with the current competition in the market today then for in terms of profitability and overall bankroll that they do have but only a few does really have an

offering for which people could make out some investment to have at least some profit share in every month and most of them are stand-alone and doesnt really need one.There are ones who had started on getting some investors and later on they had closed up that line and operate solely which is understandable but on Bitvest case, they are still that continuing despite of the long time running which is really good.
Of course to those who are indeed sticking into this company and still seeing some progress and gains then it would be normal that they would be hanging around further.
1927  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC rise described as false bull on: February 01, 2023, 11:35:30 PM
I would not call bitcoin's price increase from $15k to $23k a false bull. That was an increase of 53% or over $200 billion that went into bitcoin. But maybe people are used to the previous bitcoin bull runs and will only call a bull run when it increased to 1,000% or more. So I'll just call bitcoin's previous increase in price a mini bull run but that was not fake. Can we also call bitcoin's previous bull run at $68k fake because it gradually went down to as low as $15k last year? It's just normal that the market goes up and down. A big increase in value means a big correction later since not all investors are looking for long-term holds. There are also investors that are looking for profit and will sell their stake anytime when profits are good enough for them.
People would be pertaining on a short span of time and wont really be tending to look back on where we had started to make out some recovery but its true that 15k to 23k isnt something that could be called as a

fake out considering on how far we've been able to moved out then we can say that it is really gradually making it some recovery which we are all really that hoping after having such decline.False bull or not
on which these chances and tendencies for it to happen isnt something that we could really be able to predict on.

This is why risk management is really that crucial and very important when it comes to your entry and exit points of this market.
1928  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: February 01, 2023, 11:08:03 PM
Hey, I'm trying to assess if this site is worth putting a few sats in as an investment in the bankroll.

I scanned through the latest posts and see there was some drama going on. Could anyone give me a quick rundown on the condition of BitVest, to save me hours of reading through all that?

Are there any stats that would allow calculating expected profitability, i.e. average weekly amount wagered for each currency? And does the "average bankroll" represent an actual amount held or is multiplied by the investors' margin?
I my opinion, I will advise you to take a personal look at the casino and its bankroll payment to see if it offers the amount of percentage that is suitable for your preference and also check the reviews to know what the latest update is with the casino and how effective the team are in solving issues as it relates to bankroll payments are and how effective to access it since there is need for all the answered we generated first let me make things clear.
You can see it all here: https://bitvest.io/charts
If we do see total invested, total investors profit and total bets which it is really climbing up which does signifies that they are really indeed still doing fine.

When it comes to transparency in talks about reserves then you could visit out this:
https://bitvest.io/liabilities

So these things could clear out doubts and its good to see this tranparency on which bitvest is providing.
1929  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Your successes over the past 5 years on: February 01, 2023, 09:28:39 PM
Your successes over the past five years: How well have you managed to increase the balance on your account during this time? Or have you lost everything? Tell me your story.

It's not just cryptocurrency that unites us all. We all became different after we learned about her, and went deeper into her knowledge. And now, even if someone is not very lucky to increase their deposit, then you probably have accumulated experience, and you can share it.
I do have that bitter experience on the time that i was just still starting up on which i have lost some significant amount of money investing on Ponzi investment which i do believe that it could make me rich but

that wasnt the case or giving out another result or outcome.This is where i do really make myself that gaining experience on which it did really help me out into my future endeavors and goals which im trying out to achieve.I could really that say that i have seen some progress which i do consider out myself on the positive side all over the 5 years.I had able to bring back those losses and earn more
than on that via trading.This isnt somehow an easy journey since i do have lost money when im still half-way.
1930  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥🎮🎲LuckyBird🎁 - social sweepstake casino🎄🔥up to $20 free every Week 🎁 on: February 01, 2023, 08:29:47 PM
Scam!
This site don’t have instant withdrawal, my redeem in processing more 24 hours
If this is your first withdrawal and it was from a faucet, then a moderator checked you to exclude a multi-account. Calling a site a scam because of this is complete nonsense

Same problem, withdrawal more than one day


As i have seen into the screenshot which you are trying out to convert or having that SC to USD withdrawal?
If they arent processing in one day then they might really have having that manual confirmation or processing about it which it do really sucks big time.
Just give them another 24 hours and if they arent really still releasing those withdrawal then you could always open a scam accusation thread on here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Casino nowadays should really be having that standard instant withdrawal.If there are some hold ups and pendings then it would be varying into some
issues which is likely on this case.
1931  Economy / Economics / Re: How to thrive with low income in a humble area on: February 01, 2023, 07:34:16 PM
Doesn't matter how depressing is your day, never give up:

Live must go on and it doesnt matter whether you are living on a hard situation because everything could changed up if you do really make yourself that eager on trying to enhance your lifestyle and status.
You wont really be able to achieve that if you arent really that doing your best and hard work for you to achieve such condition.If you do have that low income then try out to do your best on finding another source and dont easily get discourage if ever you would be facing up some challenges along the way.Live by your means and not on wants and trying out to enhance if you do have the opportunity that you do able
to see along the way.It is really just a matter on how someone would be handling out their lives.
1932  Economy / Gambling / Re: I accidentally deposited to self-excluded stake.com account. on: February 01, 2023, 07:29:47 PM
I accidentally deposited 3.067 ETH to my self-excluded stake.com account, and live support does not let me withdraw.

I really need to withdraw my funds, what can I do?

Just over three ethereum is a big amount and i really feel sorry for you. The saddest part is that you cannot claim or insist stake.com to recover your funds as it is clearly mentioned there that you won't get back any funds during the self-exclusion period.

By the way, were you not aware of the terms and conditions for the self-excluded account or you did the deposit by mistake ?

In both the cases, you won't be able to get your funds back unless stake.com are very kind to you.
It would really be depending on Stake whether they would really be that kind and considerate for such situation on which they would be giving out back into those self excluded account, but most of the times on which they would really be sticking out into their rules which they would really be following it out most of the time.

Its impossible that you would be intently to make out deposit even if you do know that you are self excluded? Pretty sure that OP wasnt really been doing it on purpose and rather he had completely forgotten about that exclusion thing until he had realized it but its already too late.

There are really indeed those terms which you do agree on the time that you had make out that self exclusion which you shouldn't really violate.
1933  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Tutored or you learned how to trade? on: January 31, 2023, 11:40:45 PM
You can't be watching trading videos on sites and expect to be perfect in trading. Those influencers that you watch online who shared tips on how to trade successfully on crypto did have a mentor that thought them how to monitor the market before they mastered trading which makes them start lecturing others on trading.

Crypto trading is not learned by watching videos on the site, it does need a mentor who will coach you for a long, depending on how fast you can learn.
Not necessarily because im also a self learned trader on which those videos and tuts online are the recipes for me to be able to learn and that would really be good at least for theories but in speaking with real experience, then this is where real learning does begin.Its not really that bad on which one you would be choosing as long it would really be that relevant towards your learning process then this is what
matter the most.You are the ones who would be handling out whether you would really be that going into certain path which you do seem that would benefit out you the most.
Different people does have different preferences which it would really be just normal that we do have different approach on things.
1934  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: January 31, 2023, 11:37:02 PM

This is just the same experience I had last year during Qatar 2022 world cup, the game between Argentina and Saudi Arabia is where I learnt the hard way never to be over confident in a team when placing a bet..
I went all in on Argentina to win that match, but unfortunately, they ended up loosing, I lost all my money, a few thousands of dollars, Infact, if I had millions, I would have probably lost it all because I probably would have betted everything to increase my winning amount.
Argentina vs Saudi Arabia match in the Qatar 2022 was a game that really humbled many football speculators, many bets were destroyed by that single game as all odds connected to Argentina winning Saudi but the outcome of the match was in favour of the least expected team Saudi Arabia, from then I learn a few lessons which are.
*Never to be too confident in any team since football is unpredictable and we should not judge by odds or previous performance or records.
*Double chance your bets if you have the funds to do so but most times you still end up losing if luck is not on your side.
This isnt only limited to football/soccer but also in other sports as well on which upsets could really happen on where underdogs beating up a powerhouse team on which this isnt something new that happen on

sports world.This is why whenever you do make out bets then dont really be having that 100% confidence for you to win up a particular bet.Losing odds or chances is still there as long it doesnt goes to 0%
which we do know that its impossible.
Lots of people been talking about this guy who bet up a million for this kind of match which i couldn't blame him off with and its true that lots had lost that one sided game which we do know.
We arent that dumb not to make those huge gaps and differences in between which is really that obvious but it turns out to be opposite.
1935  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you consider spreading FUD to be unethical? on: January 31, 2023, 09:34:57 PM

Yes, it's unethical. The benefit of doing it I guess is worth it that's why there are article sites doing it. There are no rules that will prevent people from doing it either I guess they are not violating laws too.

But there are seasons when FUD also disappears also. It's kind of a pattern that you might wanna look at. Either Bulls or Bears, they both spread fud.
When you are dealing up with markets not only limited on crypto but also in forex and stocks then news like this on which fuds and manipulative things are really that very common and there's something we cant

do anything about it but neither would be making yourself that impulsive or would really be just ignoring it because we are already getting used to it.People cant really just avoid not to make out some reaction basing into those news specially if it was negative or too much bear. Unethical on general sense specially for those new media outlets publishing out these news but we do know that they could do whatever they want
for their own benefit or on what they do have in mind and there's nothing we can do for them to stop it on what they've been doing.
1936  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🐺 wild.io 🎰 Wheel of Fortune 🎁 Daily Rewards 🔥 10 Minutes Cashouts on: January 31, 2023, 09:31:13 PM
Just explored the casino a bit especially about the promotions, tournament and loyalty program. It is good that you have all of these important things to compete with other casinos. However it is unfortunate because I see there is a wagering requirement for the prizes of your tournaments. 5x for cash prizes and 40x for free spins prize. Players are competing in the tournament by risking their own money but the prizes is locked with high wagering requirements. I dont think it is a good idea to have wagering requirement for such tournaments.
This is my first time on hearing it out on which competition prizes does have some wagering requirement before the winner would be able to completely out those amount which is bullshit.

Sorry to be harsh but it is really way too greedy for a casino platform to have these kind of terms on which its true that the players or gamblers had made out on using up their own money
just to hit up themselves on winning the competition and on the time they do win then they would be still facing up that wagering which is really just too much.
For sure this wont really be able to get that much recognition due to the greed that they are really that showing.

I can understand if it is coming from bonus, but yes, the casino should think about not putting wagering requirements for the tournaments.
This will discourage players to enter the tournament because of this requirement, that should not be there anymore.
Or if they don't want to remove the wagering requirements in free spins, at least lower down it to maybe 10x or whatever is fair to the players.
They will know fast if this kind of tournament and rewards will be attractive to players, they may alter the requirements if they won't get much players on these tournaments.
For sure they wont really be able to get that much if they would really be that somewhat strict when it comes to these requirements.Just like been said that they've been using up their own money on winning up

the competition and on the time that they are getting their rewards, they would be still needing to deal up with some wagering which isnt really just that right.If they do really want to get that such attention then

they should really be minding on removing those because this isnt something that would really make you look interested but rather you would be hopping into other places on which they do seem that it wont
really be that too strict when it comes into their game mechanics.You cant really just make them reaching out another batch of wagering after getting their rewards.
1937  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Your successes over the past 5 years on: January 29, 2023, 09:59:40 PM
Your successes over the past five years: How well have you managed to increase the balance on your account during this time? Or have you lost everything? Tell me your story.

It's not just cryptocurrency that unites us all. We all became different after we learned about her, and went deeper into her knowledge. And now, even if someone is not very lucky to increase their deposit, then you probably have accumulated experience, and you can share it.

I admit the Crypto space has taken a lot of my time since I joined it in 2016, and that affected the other sides of my life, but I can't be regretful, simply because Crypto has given a great boost to my financial status. I can just tell you that I hold Bitcoin since it was below $1000, Ether below $50. In addition, I bought and sold many of the other assets. Despite the financial benefits, this space gave me a lot of life-changing lessons, whereas I tried the feelings of losing a lot of money, earning a lot, getting scammed, and knowing who to trust. People who were here at the end of 2017 know what I'm talking about. However, I think I need to learn more as this domain is in continuous development.
There would really be sacrifices but i cant say it would be that a sacrifice considering that you are doing on whats for the best and you do know that you could potentially able to make money and this is why it is

really just normal that you would really be that going into that path if you do really want to have that kind of situation which you would wish for.For those people who had been hovering around crypto for how many years and did still stay up even upto this moment which does mean that they do see some progress in related into their financial status which is something that would really be targeting in the first place.
Its still not too late for those people who had just recently kicked in or do make out involvement into cryptospace on which there's still time for such making money or some
profitable opportunity.
1938  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🐺 wild.io 🎰 Wheel of Fortune 🎁 Daily Rewards 🔥 10 Minutes Cashouts on: January 29, 2023, 08:53:57 PM
Just explored the casino a bit especially about the promotions, tournament and loyalty program. It is good that you have all of these important things to compete with other casinos. However it is unfortunate because I see there is a wagering requirement for the prizes of your tournaments. 5x for cash prizes and 40x for free spins prize. Players are competing in the tournament by risking their own money but the prizes is locked with high wagering requirements. I dont think it is a good idea to have wagering requirement for such tournaments.
This is my first time on hearing it out on which competition prizes does have some wagering requirement before the winner would be able to completely out those amount which is bullshit.

Sorry to be harsh but it is really way too greedy for a casino platform to have these kind of terms on which its true that the players or gamblers had made out on using up their own money
just to hit up themselves on winning the competition and on the time they do win then they would be still facing up that wagering which is really just too much.
For sure this wont really be able to get that much recognition due to the greed that they are really that showing.
1939  Economy / Economics / Re: Success is fundamentally determined by luck, not effort. on: January 29, 2023, 07:43:16 PM

Recently I have had numerous reunions with Uncles from my extended family. Some of them are successful businessmen for decades. They built their business from nothing and are living quite a comfortable life now. We had long conversations about life in general, including their key to success. I knew very well that they have been hard workers ever since I had a memory so I would contribute their success to endless efforts. However, one thing they had mentioned in common was luck. They believe pure luck made them meet and grasp those opportunities and become successful rather than their smartness and efforts. I've thought about this before and couldn't agree with this more. They've set very good examples to me, including my father, and now I tend to focus more on work itself consistently and let luck or fate takes the rest.
Some sort of if we do speak about being lucky on what investment or business that you are dealing with because we know that not all does really succeed on investment world on where no matter how hard you do

work and make some effort, if your products and services arent really that in demand when you do have a physical business then pretty sure it would end up bankrupt and if you are doing some online investment
and other business but turns out not to be recognized then it would be still ending up on a failure.

This is why i could say that it is really needing up some sort of luck for you to have success on whatever you are dealing with but i would really go into the side of extreme effort and
planning where it is the main ingredients for you to succeed but its not something guaranteed though.
1940  Economy / Gambling / Re: What do you appreciate more Desktop or Phone on: January 28, 2023, 11:45:58 PM
I value both desktop computers and smartphones for their unique benefits. Desktops offer larger screens, making them ideal for activities such as gambling, while smartphones provide portability and the ability to access games on-the-go. Both devices have their own advantages and disadvantages, but together they satisfy my diverse needs.
It’s good if you can have both and both gave you an excitement to gamble.
Since I’m always outside of my home, I prefer more to use my phone for gambling activities since its more convenient and very accessible, I guess this will always depend on your situation since I also gamble using pc when I get home and yeah it gives the same enjoyment same with using my phone.
Its situational on which it would really be that normal on using up a certain device depending on the condition or situation that you are in because if you are in a transit or you arent on your home then you would really be just normally be playing  on your own mobile phone which would really be just a few clicks away or something that it isnt hassle for you to do so.So it do varies on the condition because what matter the
most here is that you do able to play whenever or whatever you want because you do have the access on things considering that having mobile phone or laptop is becoming a standard
which it isnt really that shocking anymore.So it would be that situational as i do say.
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