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1941  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcointalk Private SwC Meisterschafts Pokerserie - Start: HEUTE, 19 UHR on: April 04, 2020, 03:46:01 PM
gibt es auch eigentlich eine option, während des turniers, sich mit den anderen spielern zu unterhalten?
oder sehen wir nur sprechblasen, wie raise, check, all-in, ...  Grin

Klar kann man chatten - allerdings muss man dafür bei SwC zuvor ein wenig "Krill" bei Cash Games - das sind ihre Loyalty-Points - gesammelt haben. Geht aber auch an low stake Tischen sehr schnell.
1942  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk SwC Championship Poker Series(50 mBtc added by SwC) on: April 04, 2020, 03:43:06 PM
I'm in duuudes Gl all 😁✌️

Password sent ceehe - tell me, I see Germany in your profile?! This would mean we will see 8 German speaking players tonight - feels like partypoker & chris moneymaker pokerstars boom 2.0!  Cheesy
1943  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk Poker Nights Discussion Thread (private games for btctalk members) on: April 04, 2020, 03:33:14 PM
1.5 hrs to go for our "Saturday Night Tournament" - I know its not night for everybody...  Cheesy

So, everyone practicing or what?!
1944  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcointalk Private SwC Meisterschafts Pokerserie - Start 04.04.2020 on: April 04, 2020, 03:30:28 PM
Ahh ok danke :-) Ich hoffe ihr seid alle keine Profis, bei mir ist es eine Weile her mit dem Zocken  Grin
Keine Sorge, ist ein bunter Haufen an Spielern, zwar sind einige erfahrene Spieler dabei, aber nicht alle. Es wird auch nicht übermäßig aggressiv gespielt, damit wir alle einen schönen und entspannten Pokerabend haben. So war es jedenfalls bisher. Denke und hoffe, so wird es auch heute sein.  Smiley

ich bin schon echt heiß auf den pokerabend
möge der für mich ein entspannter und langer pokerabend sein  Grin

vielleicht läuft es für mich auch so, wie bei unserem bl-tippspiel...  Cool Cool Wink

Also ich muss sagen ich war optimistisch, dass es Resonanz gibt - dennoch bin ich sehr happy und positiv überrascht, dass die ganze Serie so gut angenommen wird. Smiley

Der BL-Tippspiel-Letzte wird heute eine Duftmarke setzen... sorry...  Cool
1945  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus on: April 04, 2020, 03:28:49 PM
Some people take it very literaly.

I will try to explain once again:
We have no association to 1xbet - which means -  we have nothing to do with their company, their license or software supplier.
We have rebuilt our own platform, and used the idea from the layout/structure from 1xbet, since this looks very user friendly, with easy registration process.

We never told we have imagined the design by ourself, its based on inspiration.
Our site is more compact, which offers less sports/live sports and no casino; since we only want to focus on the sports betting section.


Again - copying (being inspired as you say) this way is literally illegal - and while being inspired, you also felt the inspiration to also copy (yes, thats a copy) their general terms and conditions?
1946  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcointalk Private SwC Meisterschafts Pokerserie - Start 04.04.2020 on: April 04, 2020, 02:30:37 PM
wie ist denn für heute die Gewinnaufteilung? Sind schon 26 Spieler, da sollten die ersten 4 ins Geld kommen oder?

Geh bei SwC einfach auf unser Turnier und klicke auf den Tab „Prizes“ - kann im Augenblick nicht nachsehen.
1947  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcointalk Private SwC Meisterschafts Pokerserie - Start 04.04.2020 on: April 04, 2020, 02:28:33 PM
Die Teilnehmerzahl steigt weiter - mittlerweile habe ich für das heutige Turnier bereits Chips von 26 Spielern eingesammelt! Wir werden den bisherigen Bestwert in puncto Teilnehmer (19) heute also toppen Smiley

Übrigens - Hhampuz und bitcoingirl.club verschenken gerade buy-ins für die Turniere!
1948  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk SwC Championship Poker Series(50 mBtc added by SwC) on: April 04, 2020, 12:34:09 PM
I have shipped chips but have not received the password to register. Requesting a PM with the pass so I can register.

20 runners is a good number. Will definitely ship the extra coins for the remainder of the events. Next series we should throw some HORSE action.

Passwords sent!

Someone with SwC Username "Pitkins" has sent 400 extra Chips - who is this? Can you please pm me? Thx!

@all If anyone has sent the chips and is missing the password, please PM me. Thank you!

23 have paid the fees for today´s game - only 17 registered so far!
1949  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus on: April 04, 2020, 10:24:40 AM


Are you really asking this?

Okay, here we go: Not only does your website/platform look exactly the same as 1xbet and several other betb2b clones - I am not just talking about design aspects where you could argue you were "inspired" - the whole structure is the same, even the registration procedure as well as the wording. This is not a uniquely built platform - we are no fools.

So, long story short, please read this to see why I am saying what I am saying: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.msg54145586#msg54145586

@efialtis
i support you in this flag and this fight versus 1xbet
i hate so much scammer and in the past (when i have much spare time) i busted many of them

supported in this and other flag if necessary

thank you for your work

What a joke.. Which work? The fact that he does not know anything about sports/companies/licenses? He just took a look at th design and decides its same company.
We are not connected to 1xbet.
You should red flag this user efialtis by making false accusations!

If you want to fight against 1xbet, fight against them and not agianst us, as we have nothing to do with them.


Yeah, please "red flag" me!

Can you please share why of all places you chose to copy 1xbet? In addition, do you realize that copying the way you did, well, it´s actually illegal and criminal? I mean, even the T&Cs? What is wrong with you? Goes to show a lot about your absolutely honest and serious business...
1950  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk SwC Championship Poker Series(50 mBtc added by SwC) on: April 04, 2020, 10:15:49 AM
Ok my friends. I know I probably can't play very well [I will likely have to sit out hands in between] but I'm sure you boys won't mind, right? Made my deposit with a low fee (bad/good habit) so it'll probably hit SwC in a few hours, I'll pay it down then.

BTW do we pay the youcantwin fee every week?

Trofo, I haven't figured out how to tell my SO how I want to spend hours in front of my puter losing money =p

Good to see you joining us! =)

You can pay the "fee/extra chips" for each week separately, for all tournaments in advance, your decision. I will obviously return extra chips in case anyone pays in advance and doesnt join as many tournaments as he paid for.

7 hours to go guys!  Cool
1951  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [Exchange] PayPal/Skrill/Neteller BTC/LTC/ETH/ETC/PM/Payza/Webmoney/Payoneer on: April 04, 2020, 09:50:23 AM
Exchanged some Neteller funds (substantial amount) for BTC with Shasan - very smooth transaction, quick & easy. Thumbs up!
1952  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten??? on: April 04, 2020, 09:16:11 AM
Bei der Freebitco.in Kampagne von Hhampuz ist vorhin ein freier Hero/Legendary Spot announced worden:

We have 1x Hero/Legendary position open, apply now!

Beeilung ihr hochrangigen User! Cheesy
1953  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk SwC Championship Poker Series(50 mBtc added by SwC) on: April 04, 2020, 07:46:00 AM
I see 14 registered players in the tournament lobby right now - dont forget to register guys, we are playing in ~9 hours from now! Smiley

To everyone else who hasnt signed up to participate yet - you better do so, this is going to be lots of fun!

See you at the tables guys!
1954  Economy / Reputation / Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported on: April 04, 2020, 07:24:08 AM
Even if it was true - Cleobet not being connected with that group in any way - Still can´t believe it, sorry but fine, let´s assume they arent...

That would mean: They have blatantly copied another bookmaker´s website in a way you havent seen before. They have copied design, UI, hell, even T&Cs. Worse, they copied the shadiest one there is out there...

Where I live... that´s illegal, criminal - one could have them shut down for that. Yeah, good for them its still wild wild west...

As a conclusion: That alone forces me to flag them and continue asking for flag support - Based on what I am seeing, I just cant advise anyone taking a risk by depositing money on that site.

Additional note: I do understand Darkstar´s position and I personally also hate to do this, especially with new crypto businesses - I just think there is a risk in this case and people shouldnt take it.
1955  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus on: April 03, 2020, 08:17:10 PM
You are not aware of the state of affairs. We know how the construction of Betb2b works. There you have no option to choose your odds. It is clear that you have no experience at all. Please first research something, and substantiate your arguments before trying to attack a site.

I was not referring to an option of "choosing odds" - anyway, yes, you´ve convinced me - there is no association in any way... what you guys built is absolutely unique.

Sarcasm stop: Before anyone even thinks about playing there, please read this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237723
1956  Economy / Reputation / Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported on: April 03, 2020, 07:51:38 PM
That shady 1xbet/1xbit group is launching new clones as if it was nothing.

Just a few days ago, another crypto bookmaker named Cleobet popped up and launched a signature campaign here on bitcointalk. Visiting their website, one would immediately notice that their website is looking almost exactly the same as 1xbet and several other clones that this group is running. Just for the record even though I may be repeating myself: That group has been scamming lots of players for a long time.



Please support the flag here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=1519



Just a few minutes ago, they finally posted their ANN thread and I took the chance to ask them about their relation with betb2b. Have a look at their response and my reaction:

Hello,

Thank you for the messages.
We have no association in any way with 1xbit / 1xbet / betb2b. We have developed our own platform and have our own license. We understand your questions / comments, but we are a completely different company.

That´s actually impossible, sorry - I may believe you are operating "independently" - stating you have developed your own platform, well, thats simply not true... I really hate to do/say this but with your first response - which came quickly, thanks for that - you have already disqualified yourselves. No association in any way cant be true based on the fact that your platform is exactly the same that is being used by 1xbet/1xbit and the hundreds of clones all over the net.

Then they asked me why I think its impossible that their platform is built from scratch by them... They really did as if we were fools... Have a look:


Quote

That´s actually impossible, sorry - I may believe you are operating "independently" - stating you have developed your own platform, well, thats simply not true...

May I ask you why this is impossible, according to your vision?

Are you really asking this?

Okay, here we go: Not only does your website/platform look exactly the same as 1xbet and several other betb2b clones - I am not just talking about design aspects where you could argue you were "inspired" - the whole structure is the same, even the registration procedure as well as the wording. This is not a uniquely built platform - we are no fools.

So, long story short, please read this to see why I am saying what I am saying: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.msg54145586#msg54145586

Their next statement being that they have a different sports betting selection:

You are talking about the whole structure:
Perhaps it helps if you compare the offer of our sport events (sports / odds) with that of 1xbit / 1xbet.

Those differ completely from eachother.

You arent helping yourselves with your replies so far - even though I appreciate that you do answer!

The sports betting selection being different? First of all, its actually not completely different when comparing it with all those sites. And then, it doesnt need to be identical to prove me right - that betb2b platform (of course) allows you to choose.

By the way: Here in your ANN you are saying there is a 1 BTC welcome deposit bonus - on your website/platform, that you have build from scratch and completely on your own, you are saying 5 BTC... So whats it gonna be?



They definitely made their homework - when googling, you cant find any connection, new license etc. Using the very same platform though and then stating you have build it from scratch... well, I think I dont need to comment on this - its a pure joke, just visit the sites and you will see.

There is only one scenario that could have helped cleobet - if they claimed that they rent the platform while running their shop completely independently. I highly doubt that this is even possible with betb2b but... we could speak about some benefit of the doubt, maybe they didnt know how shady that group is, whatever. Well, unfortunately for them and fortunately for us, they disqualified themselves and we can warn people before its too late.

See screenshots of cleobet & 1xbet/1xbit below - registration process is almost identical... this is not just "inspiration", it´s the same platform. Same UI etc. Even their Terms and Conditions are identical (wording, structure) etc.

cleobet.io






1xbet



1xbit



1957  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus on: April 03, 2020, 07:39:18 PM
Upon looking the website they are indeed looks like the indeed 1xbet mostly the design and user interface, probably inspired by it? but it seems that the license and odds is different from them also I've noticed as well that they only have sports betting and live sports but no casino.

Having "different" odds and especially not having a casino says absolutely nothing - this is like a modular system, you pick out of several options that you want your platform to contain.
1958  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus on: April 03, 2020, 07:21:13 PM
You are talking about the whole structure:
Perhaps it helps if you compare the offer of our sport events (sports / odds) with that of 1xbit / 1xbet.

Those differ completely from eachother.

You arent helping yourselves with your replies so far - even though I appreciate that you do answer!

The sports betting selection being different? First of all, its actually not completely different when comparing it with all those sites. And then, it doesnt need to be identical to prove me right - that betb2b platform (of course) allows you to choose.

By the way: Here in your ANN you are saying there is a 1 BTC welcome deposit bonus - on your website/platform, that you have build from scratch and completely on your own, you are saying 5 BTC... So whats it gonna be?
1959  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus on: April 03, 2020, 07:02:18 PM

Quote

That´s actually impossible, sorry - I may believe you are operating "independently" - stating you have developed your own platform, well, thats simply not true...

May I ask you why this is impossible, according to your vision?

Are you really asking this?

Okay, here we go: Not only does your website/platform look exactly the same as 1xbet and several other betb2b clones - I am not just talking about design aspects where you could argue you were "inspired" - the whole structure is the same, even the registration procedure as well as the wording. This is not a uniquely built platform - we are no fools.

So, long story short, please read this to see why I am saying what I am saying: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230966.msg54145586#msg54145586
1960  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus on: April 03, 2020, 06:50:32 PM
Hello,

Thank you for the messages.
We have no association in any way with 1xbit / 1xbet / betb2b. We have developed our own platform and have our own license. We understand your questions / comments, but we are a completely different company.

That´s actually impossible, sorry - I may believe you are operating "independently" - stating you have developed your own platform, well, thats simply not true... I really hate to do/say this but with your first response - which came quickly, thanks for that - you have already disqualified yourselves. No association in any way cant be true based on the fact that your platform is exactly the same that is being used by 1xbet/1xbit and the hundreds of clones all over the net.
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