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1941  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: August 22, 2017, 04:29:59 PM
I have think of it and i have save up bitcoin just a the small amount because i have plans for it to have fun like travelling didn't even save it for future purpose. so i wanted to know what are you going to do with your bitcoin if you save bitcoin. Why do you save bitcoin for? and why? what is the purpose why you save up bitcoin to your wallet and not to spend it.

I save bitcoin for future. because i believe it can be save my finance after years. And I believe bitcoin price will increase up.
- The price of Bitcoin has always tended to increase, until now it is still no sign of stopping, and I think the value of Bitcoin in the future will be a number we can not imagine, so save bitcoin for future purpose is a wise choice. It's silly if someone saves bitcoin for fun, this is a lot of money and this is the future, we are watching our money and our future is fun, do not joke, please seriously
1942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: August 21, 2017, 05:06:41 PM
For me money in gambling is definitely not everything. I can play on a dice site 2 hours in a row and if I was lucky I can win from 5k to 10k satoshis which is of course not a big gain for two hours work. But the thing is, I'm not working when I gamble. I gamble for relaxation.
You still play with money, 5k satoshies or 10k satoshies is still what we have if we want to play gambling, gambling cannot be called gambling if there is no bet at all, money is all we need in gambling to make a game became gambling. If a game doesn't have any money involve then that is not a gambling.
Games like cricket, football etc involve a lot of money plus real fun and the winners also earn respect and admiration. They can win money but they cannot lose it. Gambling involves the risk of losing your own money and even if you win, you get just money. No doubt, gambling is just about money from the very beginning.
although money play important role in every format of gambling but still it is not everything.
Of course money is very important in gambling and that is everything. What is your purpose in gambling? Making money? Making money in gambling means doubling money, you have to have money to double. No money can not gamble.
For fun? How can you have fun with gambling if you have no money? To place a bet you will not be able to.

- Exactly, without money, we will have nothing. Money is the basic element to help us maintain in gambling, if we do not have the money, we will not do anything in gambling, many people told me that they gamble for relaxation and fun, but i think they really could not do it, we can not be happy or relaxed if we lose and lose. We should accept reality, money is everything
1943  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: August 21, 2017, 04:39:24 PM
Investors have proven that if you were able to buy bitcoin later than this year you could have earn big today because the value of bitcoin rise so much that it has reach $4400 and the good thing is that the probability of reaching $5000 before the end of this year is very likely to happen. I guess everyday is a good opportunity for bitcoin because it has no limitations when it comes to appreciation
The rise is not over yet, what we have seen currently will surely continue so I advice to hold your bitcoins.
If it's possible to have a growth this big this year then we can expect that the next year to come there will be similar progress to witness or maybe bigger than what we have seen now. As for me, I'll continue to hold as the trend is still going, in time I will be rich because of bitcoin and I believe it will be soon.
- Yes, I still think 2017 is the year marking the development of bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will continue to keep upward trend for many years to come, so in the present moment, we should keep our bitcoin and concentrate on developing our bitcoin more. Bitcoin always gives us a lot of surprises and gives us a lot of profit, we should trust and buy, accumulate bitcoin as much as possible, our future depends on the amount of bitcoin we keep
1944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: August 21, 2017, 02:54:38 PM

It is difficult to explain especially to children and minor ages. And they are teen agers because they are only at the pleasure stage. And just games.

This is what you can do for them to convience with bitcoins. Let's just try to show that they can buy gadgets etc or whatever material they want and that it can get them with bitcoins teach them to earn faucets and investment trading and other payday loans then many They have learned that you can teach them in the forum where they can use all they have learned in investment and trading what else.

They seem to be studying here and have just finished earning money.
- I think children and teenagers will not be too concerned about Bitcoin, they have so many things to do in life as fun, study, sleep, ... they will not waste their time to earn bitcoin, that is not necessary to them. But if we really want to explain to them, we can start with their hobbies and what they want, then lead them to earn bitcoin, bitcoin can do what they want.
1945  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: do you sell your bitcoin or convert to usd? on: August 20, 2017, 03:11:21 PM
I sometimes do whenever the need arises. Usually during emergency situations or when there is no other source for me to get funds, then there's no choice for me but to sell some bitcoins. I also take advantage whenever the price goes up. Bitcoin has allowed me to have some extra fiat money. Some people consider Bitcoin as a job and a source of daily income, so they probably sell or convert it regularly. They use it for their daily expenses like for their bills and other assets. But I'd rather not sell it, because I intend to hold my bitcoins for long term use.
- I also just sold my Bitcoin in real situations of emergency, and every time I sold, I feel very sorry when the price of Bitcoin continues to rise, so I am very limited myself to fall into this situation. Normally I convert bitcoin into usd to buy altcoin, especially when the price of Bitcoin achieve the highest possible value, this is a good time to convert and accumulate altcoin.
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: August 20, 2017, 02:11:10 PM
It will be very difficult to give up or stop playing gambling when you are in a state of defeat, especially in large numbers. Well, I understand his feelings. It will be very difficult to lose a lot of money in one day, so maybe you will not give up to get it back.
- Yes, we certainly will not accept loss, especially when the loss becomes too large, we will find a way to recover the loss, and if we fail in gambling, we will stand up from there. We always hope luck will smile but gradually after a long time we do not get anything, the loss is still increasing and we become addicted to gambling. The problem is that in ourselves, if we accept loss, we will give up gambling easily but we always live in regret, we live in hope the money will come back, we do not accept the truth, that is the reason we can not give up gambling
1947  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin End World Poverty? on: August 20, 2017, 01:46:22 PM
No, how the hell did you get the idea that bitcoin could end world poverty? WTF!
I just want to add more something, Bitcoin can help individually, but not to give a solution in one country's problem like poverty. Poverty is already given in each nation in the entire world. Where it is one of responsibility to resolve by the government. If the government only will adapt the system and usages advantage of bitcoin, it can be a tools or way solutions depending on how the government will use it.
- Exactly, bitcoin can only help individual, it can not help a whole country or solve a world problem, especially the problem of poverty, this is a problem that has been talked about for many years and the whole world together to solve but until now, poverty has been unable to stop. The world can not do, bitcoin also can not, Bitcoin only helps people who are interested and want to make money online, want to get rid of unemployment, it is an opportunity not a god, it will not end anything
1948  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: August 19, 2017, 05:11:13 PM
I have tried to trade but I'm always bad luck and always lose
Not a matter of luck, choose a good coin, do not frequent transactions, long hold, wait, you will have a good income.


The problem with altcoin is that many are just pumped and dumped just to make more money which cannot be predicted. Like its happening with BCC right now. I had bought some when it was around 0.07-0.08, and was holding.
- In trading, we just need to hold and wait, sooner or later we will get a very good profit, the most important issue here is the patience to wait and need a little luck. Normally new traders do not have enough patience and decided to rush, that makes them lose and lose, they always think because they are not lucky but the truth is they do not have enough patience and trust to wait. Disappointed is one thing that always happens in trading, but we always have a second chance, patience and waiting are the best way to deal with disappointment
1949  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why should people use Bitcoin? on: August 19, 2017, 04:57:58 PM
Bitcoin is the future of money, or so they say.


I would like to hear your opinions on Why should people use Bitcoin?


Yeah the answer is very simple because bitcoin is our future money so that people should use bitcoin. Bitcoin is also a opportunity to does not have a job because in the cryptocurrency world there are many jobs that you can work and eventually you can be rich by using bitcoin.
To me, depends the way you choose for using Bitcoin, because if you don't have some plans holding Bitcoin in long time until Bitcoin become famous, you will never get rich with Bitcoin.
Exactly, the moment you hold you should also consider holding it for long term, there is a success in the future if you hold more.
We have the same purpose of investing which is to make money and we could maximize your earning if we risk more money for future holding.
- Digital currency is the trend of the future and bitcoin is the digital currency leader, and of course, using, investing and keeping bitcoin right now is the best way to make us richer in the future. In addition, bitcoin is still not so popular, we use it will help it become more popular and more popular, that will make our future come true sooner
1950  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I cash out my BTC now? on: August 19, 2017, 04:35:35 PM
It's depend upon on you, but if you're going to ask me i suggest that you should hold it. But if you really need a money don't hesitate to cash out it, but not the whole btc maybe a little, just enough to fulfill your needs.
Well this is the strategy I use Bitcoin until today, just sell my Bitcoin to FIAT when I have emergency situation need money in that time. Left, most of the time I keep Bitcoin and find the way helps my Bitcoin balance can increasing.

I would also suggest you to hold the bitcoins if you don't have any emergency like situation or if you are not dependent on these bitcoins for living. Try to hold it for few months as there are maximum chances of further increase in the price of the bitcoins.

Yes the future of the bitcoin is we can not imagine the price may go very high. So don't sell your coins for a silly reason. Save coins how much you can possible and definitely, it will make you rich in future. I am also saving my coins, and also I am buying some altcoins this is also worth for long term investment. Just depending on Bitcoin is not safe.
- Saving is the best way for us to make more money in the future or we can use bitcoin to invest and develop our bitcoin, that helps us to be richer and richer in the future. Investing bitcoin is the investment for the future, so we should not sell our bitcoin, sell bitcoin just as we sell our futures, and I think we would not be foolish to do that unless we face a real emergency
1951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: August 15, 2017, 05:26:10 PM
It may enable you to earn some money in the short run but you can't be sure of winning each time. One win and another loss is no benefit. Gambling can never be a permanent and reliable source of income.

It can never be a source of making money but it can be source of having fun. I have had alot of fun from gambling site. I admit that I was the type that play for profit as well but now it has all change. In the end , playing for fun is just so much better than playing for profit and less stress for me
- Yeah, the purpose of gambling is entertainment, it helps us relieve stress after a tiring working time. We should not think about making long-term profits from gambling, that would go against the purpose of gambling and make us lose joy. Profit is just a small part of the game, it makes the atmosphere more fun but remember it's just a part, not all, fun and relaxation are all in the game
1952  Economy / Speculation / Re: I will not Die Untill Bitcoin will reach at Least 50K on: August 15, 2017, 05:06:44 PM
Well i really think bitcoin is gonna touch that value soon. It is growing in value so fastly.
One month ago it was 1800$, now it is at 4400$.
I think we can see it at $6k or $7k at the end of the year, and next year it will reach $10k, the first goal for all of us.
Bitcoin can grow much more, so yes, i think it can grow much much more.

- Yes, the price of bitcoin will reach $ 10,000 in the future, this is the prediction of many traders and professional investors but I think $ 10,000 in the next year is a very difficult thing to happen. Bitcoin needs more time to attract more capital and each time Bitcoin wants to reach higher values, it will need more capital, time will also last and $ 10,000 is not a small number, so the next year is really impossible, time is not enough
1953  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: August 15, 2017, 03:58:13 PM
Yes, as long as you bought using fiat money under 10 000$, you will earn a good amount of money because of the price increase. Buy at any price, that will maybe drop, but you are assured price will rise again in the future, above current price, so why hesitate more ? Because in case it does not drop, you will have missed a great opportunity.
yes i also think that it is good to hold bitcoin for a long time.
- I prefer to invest bitcoin into altcoin rather than holding bitcoin because if we want Bitcoin achieve higher value now, we will need to wait in a long time and myself, I do not like to waste time. So i will spend my time and bitcoin to trade altcoin, that will help me earn more bitcoin and I will sell the bitcoin for the highest price possible as long as I feel that the price is reasonable. The future of bitcoin is unpredictable, should not hold it too long although we may regret in the future but safety first
1954  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it too late to buy bitcoin? on: August 15, 2017, 03:40:06 PM
In this world nothing may be too late while we want to try, said late only for people who do not want to try ,, let alone for any bitcoin I might do to buy it because bitcoin is very promising.
It is never too late to do something the price of the bitcoin we can see growing very fast it is , making good records so in the future it will again grow very fast and it will make us earn good income because now the transaction has been very fast and all the problems bitcoin was having has been solved in august first and the price also increased a lot so still it is time to buy bitcoin and make some profit until it will become out of reach for a lot of people .
The fact that every time Bitcoin is on a high price it looks like too late for us to buy more Bitcoin. But the hidden truth about it is that Bitcoin is always not riding on the clouds but can always have a correction requently. In these kinds of price deep it can create a good opportunity for us investors to add more Bitcoin and take advantage of the low price to maximize the gains.
It's not a fact but it's just looks like too late for us to buy bitcoin, the real fact it's never late to buy bitcoin because the price will increase as long you can be patience to hold bitcoin and not sell it at cheap price. Like now bitcoin price is much higher than the highest price ever reach by bitcoin so do not ever be afraid to invest in bitcoin as long as you do it with full calculation.
- A few years ago, the price of bitcoin was only over $ 300 and after a short time, price of bitcoin increased to $ 700 then $ 1000, and I also think the price of bitcoin was too high, now it is too late to buy bitcoin. But then, the price of bitcoin continues to rise and rise, that made me feel very regret and I decided to bet once when buying bitcoin for $ 1500, and now the price of bitcoin is over $ 4,000. Bitcoin has proven to me one thing, nothing is too late with bitcoin, we should trust it now and in the future
1955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: August 14, 2017, 04:04:17 PM
I love football. I am very much fond of watching almost every game. I am informed almost every league and every football club. that is why i always fond of betting football. I really enjoy it. most people around me say that football is my DNA. I have a passion to be a renowned better.
but I have faced difficulties to join in this purpose. I have found some betting site but not all suits me. so I can't take more risk to this purpose. bet365 is my most favorite site for this betting purpose. for me, winning is not only desire for this purpose, entertaining is the main reason.

I also love football, it's a king sport and it gives me a lot of emotions when watching, we will not be able to predict what will happen next, as long as the ball is still rolling on the field, the possibility of winning is still possible. I usually football betting is not because I like gambling, I bet because I want to support my favorite team, even sometimes I know i will lose but I'm still very happy to lose. Profit is not important, passionate and entertaining is the main reason when I'm betting football
1956  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: August 14, 2017, 03:44:30 PM
If there is no time for trading, then it's really better to stop it because it requires a good analysis. Instead, you can invest or simply hold coins until the price grows to the desired mark.

It's not about the time but the failure that everyone or OP is getting. If I am in his shoes I will probably not going to give up at first but I am inspired with those successful traders that didn't give up within their way then that's going to be a good thing for yourself to get prepared for the best instead of quitting.

its natural if we make failure in trading as we are only human. but from our mistake, we can learn many lesson and if we are not stop for trying then I am sure that in the end we can follow the other people which is success in trading. I think we need to change our mind before we continue trading so we can learn from our mistake and we can get up again with new spirit.
- Exactly, we are human, we are not gods, failure is very normal, everyone will experience many failures in life but failure does not mean end, it is just the beginning of a success. Failure, stand up from failure then succeed and continue to fail, stand up from failure and success, and this phase will continue forever, it helps us become more and more complete and more successful. Failure is not scary, scary is we give up and accept failure
1957  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: August 14, 2017, 03:34:35 PM
Bitcoin will be more popular if the price is stable. More will choose bitcoin as an investment.
Because bitcoin is a digital currency that is very easy to use.
I dont think so that bitcoin would be still popular when it comes to investment because we do know we are earning profits when the price isnt stable which we can see as of now. Bitcoin would remain volatile and it cant really be chance since theres always a tug of war between sellers and buyers or between demand and supply. It might be a good thing for those merchants who would accept bitcoin because they know price wont really move anymore.
I agree with you, Bitcoin is an ideal investment and bring the most profit now because the instability of prices, so if the price of bitcoin becomes stable, we will not make profits, that also means we will need to look for new investments. Really want the price of bitcoin stable is not possible, whales will never let that happen, they will always find ways to create instability to make more money with bitcoin.
1958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: August 13, 2017, 04:19:05 PM
Most favorite coin to gambling is bitcoin
But some members choose gambling with altcoin an options
Sometimes to get profit or just for intermezzo
Actually, I only use bitcoin when i gamble, because I think there is no advantage to use other altcoin for doing that, Also bitcoin is more powerful than any other cryptocurrencies so, I bet only with it.
I don't know why people choose other cryptocurrencies for betting, I think maybe because they want to invest in other altcoins, because they believe that one day there is some altcoin will replace bitcoin in the future, Like litecoin or dogecoin or maybe ETH.
People choose to gamble with altcoins because they're are not as expensive as bitcoin. currently 1 bitcoin is around $4k, alts are way cheaper. still folks can gamble with bitcoin (with small amount), maybe bet only like 1000 satoshis or even less, most dice sites accept bets lower than 1k satoshis.
- Really, gambling with altcoin makes me feel more comfortable and not having too much pressure because the price of altcoin is cheaper than the price of bitcoin. In addition, I want to gamble for fun, so playing as long as possible and altcoin is a good choice, if we want to lose everything, we will also need a pretty long time, it is enough for me to enjoy the fun in gambling. Gambling with bitcoin is very wasteful, and I will feel very sorry when I lose
1959  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: August 13, 2017, 03:45:58 PM
investing should be the logical/more optimal choice since you'll always be making a profit ! not like trading where there's ups and downs !
Whatever you do just keep away from landing/dice gambling ..
If you mastered trading then there is nothing to worry about the ups and downs because a professional trader already know the basic things that he needed to know to be able to do trading very well. Trading is very easy for those people who want to learn as well as investing because they are both need effort and time to learn so you can be a professional in the future.

Trade is the best for learners. One they done a wrong means nothing will loss.Only some of their bitcoin. If you wrongly trade once means then you won't repeat that after.Before investing Your money in bitcoinyou must know about the trade very well.Then inverse obviously. Then start to inverse your money in bitcoin.
Trading is so beneficial for those who have understood about it. But of course it will be a threat for beginners. Well, basically, trading and investment have their own advantages. I myself prefer to invest than trading.
- Both have advantages and disadvantages, and we really can not say which one is good, but according to personal opinion, I think trading has includes investment, and so trading is still the best option. In addition in trading, profit will depend on our experience and ability, luck is only a small part, we can still hold and wait for the next price increasee but in investment, I feel all based on luck, skill and experience are only a small part
1960  Economy / Economics / Re: Money above all things, Yes or no ? on: August 13, 2017, 03:23:24 PM
No.
Though money is necessary in our daily life, it is not really the most important thing in life.
What is money when you're not happy?
When you have so much money, you would be always in fear of loosing it.
The most important thing in life is genuine happiness where you can only find it when you help other people in your family, local community, and people in other countries who need the help.
You extend the love to others without expecting in return.
With love can find true happiness than all money you can get.
Love is above all things.
Even the simplest act of kindness to the less fortunate is love.
Love that is patterned by God's love towards all humanity, the rich, the poor, everybody.
- Yes, and want to help others you need money, you can not help anyone if you have no money, all problems can be solved with money or a lot of money. Your love only helps others in the spiritual aspect, it can not help a poor person become rich, nor can it end hunger, money is still the most necessary thing to help a poor person to become rich or ending hunger. I always believe if we have money, we will be happy, no money we will not have anything
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