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1941  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Earning Bitcoins on: May 07, 2017, 03:05:21 AM
Earning Bitcoin without investing Fiat sounds amazing at first, but after you start experiencing just how time consuming it is, as well as the fact that it can be extremely boring. I've found that it is often not worth the time and attention span that it takes to get even as little as $10 of Bitcoin through faucets and ppc sites. I think it would be easier to just invest Fiat currencies into Bitcoin and wait for btc prices to rise. I personally wish I spend like $40-$50 on Bitcoin when it started out and let it sit. My suggestion for earning Bitcoin without investing is too find something you can do for others online and charge a fair amount of btc for those services.
indeed the first time trying to find the bitcoin without using the fiat or invest it is not worth the time we spend take the positive side we can learn from the past because the past can't be changed and also when we first know bitcoin we don't know can earn bitcoin from such services signature campaign.
1942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is more risky. Sport or casino bets ? on: May 07, 2017, 02:49:44 AM
obviously the most risky is the casino is because the house edge that makes you always lose different from sprots betting is we bet on the team/people and casino bet on the program which could possibly be rigged easily.
1943  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: kelemahan bitcoin on: May 06, 2017, 03:58:49 AM
kelehamannya mungkin karena gk ada hukum tentang bitcoin makannya situs ilegal biasa pakek bitcoin sebagai pembayaran
dan ada jga situs2 pembunuhan yg di bayar pakek bitcoin mungkin itu kelaahan bitcoin yg lainnya mungkin belom saya tau

itu bukan kesalahan bitcoin nya tapi penyalahan penggunaan
dollar yang legal pun juga banyak di gunakan untuk transaksi kejahatan, narkoba, pembayaran untuk pembunuhan dll
paypal yang legal pun banyak kasus fraud juga
mungkin maksudnya soal anonymiti bitcoin jadi kita bisa melakukan tindakan ilegal menggunakan bitcoin tanpa diketahui identitasnya. kalau pembayaran memang apapun bisa digunakan asalkan itu bernilai.
untuk sekarang sih kelemahannya menurutku ya tidak didukung pemerintah jadi masih sedikit bahkan belum ada toko-toko disekitar kita yang menerima bitcoin dan banyak juga yang mempermasalahkan konfirmasi transaksi karena butuh waktu lama hanya untuk 1 konfirmasi dan kita setidaknya butuh 2-3 konfirmasi.
1944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone else HAVE most or maybe ALL of their money in btc/crypto? on: May 06, 2017, 03:26:30 AM
I think doing it is risky big enough because all your money is in cryptocurrency and if that's crypto has a decreasing in price the auto you will experience big loss. eventhough if price up you get bigger profit it's better to have in safe zone with half your money in crypto.
1945  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Gimana sih jadi trader bitcoin biar cepet profit newby on: May 06, 2017, 02:56:21 AM
Lihat grafik nya gan dan harus sabar terus kira-kira harga Bitcoin nya naik apa turun klo tanda nya mau naik Bitcoin langsung beli aja biar profit nya lumayan.
kalau cuma lihat grafik jadi makin bingung gan apalagi sering ada manipulasi di cryptocurrency jadi bisa tiba-tiba naik dan turun. mending nyari informasi di thread diskusi atau di sosial media mereka (altcoin) biar paham intinya sih nyari koneksi atau temen biar mudah berbagi informasi yang penting di trading nikmatin prosesnya dulu baru hasilnya.
1946  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: something we can all be happy about on: May 05, 2017, 02:28:31 AM
I'm excited about this month getting bitcoin from signature campaign when bitcoin is to the moon and successful trading gets a lot of profit and also now it's hold altcoin because bitcoin rise causes altcoin fall a very awaited moment.
1947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Japan to accept Bitcoin as payment method. on: May 05, 2017, 02:19:59 AM
I think it's still too early because the transaction problem dibitcoin still not finished yes although I'm happy if this news is true because this is one of the development of cryptocurrency considering japan is a country that advanced rapidly in the field of technology.
1948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as a source of income? on: May 05, 2017, 02:14:02 AM
for me as a newbie of bitcoin i would not make as bitcoin as a source of income because we don't know when the value of bitcoin going up and down.
It I think recommended for me if bitcoin used as sideline or extra source of income to pay the bill like electricity and water bill.

it's true bitcoin that we get is uncertain as in trading and although participate in signature campaign sometimes rate bounty down or signature campaign stopped. it's a big risk for newbie like us and we have to think about what we will do in the future.
1949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know whether its your lucky day? on: May 05, 2017, 02:05:49 AM
if I get more profit than I usually get mean it's luck because no one knows how luck will come and you should try first to know you are lucky or not. one again I think a good mood can bring good luck.
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: May 04, 2017, 02:55:11 AM
Of course analysis is important in playing gambling particularly at sportsbetting sports game. You really needed it so that you will gain more chances to win your profit and don't end up lossig your bitcoin investments. When you have enough skills with the sports that you bet or in any games that you loved, you can easily make a good decisions to do compared from no analysis.
yep sportsbetting should use analysis and there is rarely any cheating so are not depend on luck. analyze giving valuable lessons and gambling randomly without understanding what they are playing is a bad things.
1951  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What makes the bitcoin price stronger in the market? on: May 04, 2017, 02:49:24 AM
I think investors and users believe in bitcoin and cryptocurrency itself is started by bitcoin so generally people eye on bitcoin as the beginning of the birth of digital currency. the first time there are bitcoin who see it as a worthless item until investors came and bitcoin so valuable.
1952  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: BTC getting too expensive to gamble with on: May 04, 2017, 02:36:38 AM
What other cryptocurrency are you using and which casino are you playing at? BTC is getting to expensive to be depositing and playing in just BTC.
now I use altcoin like doge and eth because many are having problems with bitcoin transactions even though I have never experienced that problem. I play in betcoin.ag and also in directbet because there are still many sportsbooks that are not available in betcoin.ag.
1953  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is it possible for us to hack some gambling sites? on: May 04, 2017, 02:27:50 AM
possible if you are expert in terms hacking the security can be penetrated so it's very risky better to avoid such activities and hacking sites and retrieving their somethings is a cybercrime act that has a criminal law.
1954  Economy / Exchanges / Re: How many fee do you usually buy and sell bitcoin and ecurrency? on: May 03, 2017, 04:03:22 AM
it's better to use the fees they have set as service providers and I think higher fee because they get the trust from more users and to finance their site. indeed for 1% - 3% it is already high but if with such a fee we don't get good service better to look for other sites.
1955  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: May 03, 2017, 03:48:49 AM
When I gamble I will prefer to do it mostly at night time because at daytime, in my own opinion it's more particular of lossing your bets; because gambling games was set to gain their profit first after your's. That's a common situations to happen even when playing offline like casino houses at your local places. The same thing with online gambling casinos and sportsbetting sites, and during night time there were more rewards to earn and you'll enjoy good games, because of lots of profit to have.
We have different timezone, for me I would rather gamble at day because I'm afraid when I do it at night
and I lose I may not able to sleep thinking of my loses.
yep we have different time zones and I think at night we are free from routine work or school. for me to be better gamble on the holiday we not regardless of time zone because not any activity in holiday.
1956  Economy / Economics / Re: Worst bitcoin decision you've ever made? on: May 03, 2017, 03:36:47 AM
when I hold bitcoin and while the bitcoin price goes up without a second thought I immediately sell it the most annoying 3 hours after that bitcoin up much higher. no matter how many times I do things like that I never get the maximum profit.
1957  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: simpan bitcoin anda untuk masa depan anak dan kluarga kita? on: May 02, 2017, 03:57:44 AM
iya, bitcoin itu menurut saya investasi jangka panjang yang menguntungkan tapi saya kurang yakin harga bitcoin akan naik terus

Kenapa nggak yakin gan,bukannya bitcoin jumlahnya terbatas (21 juta) dan akan habis/tidak bisa di tambang lagi di tahun 2024 mendatang?
jika bitcoin terbatas dan permintaan (pengguna) semakin banyak,masak iya bitcoin harganya nggak akan naik terus gan?
bitcoin tidak selamanya naik terus gan lupa dengan kejadian mungkin akhir 2014 - awal 2015 kah? bitcoin turun tajam pada waktu itu yang awalnya 12 jutaan jadi 2-3 juta. semakin banyak pengguna maka orang yang jadi miner mungkin juga akan bertambah.
1958  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING & TRADING on: May 02, 2017, 03:40:06 AM
I prefer to trade than gambling. I already have a lot of experience in gambling, and that sometimes makes me lose a lot of money. But not with trading. Although it's pretty complicated to run, but with a little patience, we can generate a lot of btc, or money from trading, especially if you're good at analytics.
Trading is a safe bet where as gambling does have only two results either you win or you loose.There was a time when i used to sit an entire day in front of system when i was trading in the stock market learning about the news and other things and calculating the variables and if you are good at analyzis then trading is the best thing you can do to make a good profit.
trading has little risk than gambling and we can cover up the loss with cut lose that's why many who choose trading and trading make more sense. I think the experience is more useful because in all markets there is a lot of manipulation.
1959  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why I suddenly decided to leave gambling alone. on: May 02, 2017, 03:31:05 AM
In the story of Op, greediness has lead to all the major falls and ending up in depth. In my view the decision that's been made right now is good, because at times of continued loss a break is needed. No need to leave it alone and feel bad of leaving it.
greed is early of all the feelings he made to gambling it's hard not to be feel bad if loss in gambling and I understand what the op feel and it seems he has a strong desire to stop gambling but to stop gambling is hard not easy when talking.

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But when If even with the faucet I reach like 0.06 or more, and then I lose them it's still a touch to the heart, that makes you say if I start back with this amount I can magically make it 0.6, yes probably, cause I did that in the past, as my far record is been from 0.001 to 1.6 btc in 3 hours with roulette, but let's not dig that.
I think the op way of thinking is wrong luck is not always on our side so managing profits is important.
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: May 02, 2017, 03:13:43 AM
If i have a profit in a particular game i usually stop in the game because i believe in playsafe. You know you dont the time of luck you have sometimes Its short and sometimes its long. So to be able win the game playing safe is must. If you see that you get profit goal then stop and play again tomorrow.
play safe is better in gambling in addition to avoiding loss sometimes we may not be able to get profits goals so I think regardless how much profit you get as long as you get profit it's better to just play from bankroll not profit.
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