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Stop fucking for 10 or 20 years. Population will reduce to manageable levels.
Other option warp drive build it and find some empty planets.
Last option terraform mars.
We all know number one is not happening.
Number two will not happen unless we are visited by aliens and they lay all the cards on the table.
Number three will happen but most likely only save a small percent of people when a crash happens here on earth
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I have 13 all work well still trying to get lucky and hit a block solo Mining them
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Looks like seller has a few hot paypal accounts. Be careful
I just spent ten minutes on eBay.
No one is selling a 1080ti as buy it now under 550 with shipping.
And this guy is willing to sell at 400.
As I said be careful
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Yea, destroys the the b3. 33th is nice but over 3300w. This is more in line what we're talking about efficiency wise in one of the other speculation threads.
this m10 is the most efficient miner ever built. (claimed not proven yet) I am truly looking forward to giving it a good testing and demo. If it is under 0.070 a gh and does at least 30th it would still be the best miner ever built. I also hope that they create a lower speed optional firmware. They made firmware for the M3x to save power see below https://pangolinminer.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007140454-Low-power-Firmware-for-M3X-releaseAn option like this for the new miner would be good for some of us. The ability to lower power to 1800 watts on low speed and say 27.3th vs 2145 watts on high speed and say 33th would really make this gear a winner |
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This was confirmed more quick than I thought.
Me and Philip will do a review for the WhatsMiner M10.
Philip will do videos like he mentioned and I will do a review document as usual.
Nice I will pm my email info to you and address info to you. |
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Yep BTC and LTC are asic secured and need serious money to own enough to 51% mine it. This has always been my argument against pos. MY twist on gpu mined coins is the need 3 ready_made forks to be secure against a 51% attack they also need their own algo and all 3 forks waiting. right now we have 43,432,079,575 gh for sha 256 based BTC maybe really 50,000,000,000 gh and we can divide by 14,000 or 3,571,428 s9's that is secure and hard to overcome may cost 1,785,714,285 and 215,000,000 or 2,000,000,000 in gear to attempt to attack BTC with a 51% LTC is 305,534 gh or 610,000 L3+ at 300 each 183,000,000 add 17,000,000 total 200,000,000 to attack at 51% so both LTC and BTC are protected by $$$ in gear BTC more then 2 billion is needed to attack with 51% also the net worth of the coin is 143 billion LTC more then 200 million is needed to attack with 51% the net worth is 5 billion on the new pangolin I may will get a demo to do some you tube videos https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2390138.msg42861780#msg42861780 |
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I've made an order through the form on https://store.mineority.io/ for a few of ACORN CLE mining hardware accelerators on 19th July, 2018. Payed with ETH. Payment Status was marked as Complete, got a confirmation email. And since then I haven't recieved any info message or feedback from the seller on my order, if it's being processed or not. I tried to contact them through email on their website, and all I had back is auto message saying that my "request N316 has been recieved and is being reviewed by their team". So it's been 6 days since, and no reply. If anyone had same issues with them and knows if there's any other way to contact those guys plz let me know, that would help a lot. Thx.  So you have no confirmation email from mineority.io? Mineority Miner PHILIP A,,,,,,: Thank you for your order! Your Reference Number is: 25 ― July 13, 2018 Below is a summary of order. You can check the status of your order and all the details by visiting our website and logging into your account. Please keep this as a record of your order! Click Here to View Your Order Fedex Ground Home Delivery thnx Billing Address Shipping Address PHILIP A,,,,,, PHILIP A,,,,,, 1 D,,,,, V,,,,, RD 1 D,,,,, V,,,,, RD H,,,,,, NJ 07... H....., NJ 07... United States United States (732) 367 (732) 367 Product Qty Price Ext Price Acorn CLE - 215/215+ Acorn CLE - 215/215+ 4539994 Acorn CLE-215+ (+$30.00) 1 $329.99 $329.99 Subtotal $329.99 Tax $0.00 Shipping $14.75 VAT @0% $0.00 Order Total $344.74 Please double check your order when you receive it and let us know immediately if there are any concerns or issues. We always value your business and hope you enjoy your product. Thank you very much! My mineority order was paid with coin payments i got the follow up from mineority |
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Phil I answered your pm.
I have talked about this earlier with Laurent from Pangolinminer,
but I'm not sure if it will happen. I will let you guys know when I know more about it.
I would love to get one for the solar array and do a few youtube videos on it. |
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it is SCAMMERS!!!! real hashrate is 50% from visible!!!
Wow, I don't know where to start. try ignore as a start |
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for now I have been buying s9i's at under 550 from bitmain and sitting on them pangolin is now touting a 33th 2150 watt machine that is under 0.066 watts a gh the best claimed by anyone. I would have preferred it to be 20 th and do 1320 watts. But here is a link https://pangolinminer.com/557-2/1999 for it due sept 20th Hmm they use 16nm finfet, not 7 or 10nm, yet achieved efficiency exceeding GMO or INNO's 7/10nm miner. Are they legit? the m3 was real https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2390138.0Original post by philipma1957, posted in November 14, 2017: |
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for now I have been buying s9i's at under 550 from bitmain and sitting on them pangolin is now touting a 33th 2150 watt machine that is under 0.066 watts a gh the best claimed by anyone. I would have preferred it to be 20 th and do 1320 watts. But here is a link https://pangolinminer.com/557-2/1999 for it due sept 20th |
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I purchased a total of two 215+ and 1 x2g nest at about 780-790 usd.
I partially did spend that because of ohgoditisagirl and the eth hardener pill. I have 8 1080ti's doing 50 each vs 33 each a gain of 136 mh and 0 watts
if I had purchased 4 more 1080ti's and each did 33 with no pill that would be 132mh and 800 more watts.
So her free software is worth more then 4 x 700 = 2800 not counting I save 10 kwatt a day in power
So it is only morally correct for me to spend some of the savings on her store ie one 215+
and some on her "friend" ie squirrelsresearch store.
But I spent 790 not 2800 or 1400 mostly because of the way the thread was run.
The store sales were done weird and I have yet to see one working in the field.
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A 25 kVA transformer can only do about 105A (and peak loads up to about 140A or so @ 240V). Around my parts most homes with 200A service have a 15 kVA transformer, and large homes have a 25 kVA transformer. Really large residential homes have a 50 kVA transformer. A large 50 kVA is still only able to deliver 210A or so on a 24/7 basis. And once you get much past that, the 350 MCM Al wire running between the transformer and your meter base begins to become the limiting factor. Technically correct, but transformer power ratings are more of a moving target rather than a fixed number because as long as the core is sized properly for the voltage swing and frequency the power throughput is entirely dependent on the temperature rise of the windings. Taken to the extreme, that means a nearly infinite amount of power can flow through a transformer if the windings are superconductors. I know it sounds crazy, and using superconductors for windings isn't exactly practical, but it's true. Even with humble copper windings most utility distribution transformers are immersed in oil for cooling so they can take a high degree of overload for surprisingly long periods of time, particularly if the ambient temperature is well below 25-35C. Hell, one cheap way that utility companies can instantly increase a transformer's power rating is to slap some fans on it; good for at least a 25% bump in continuous load rating, as long as the higher voltage drop is permissible. When I started consuming above 20,000 watts 24/7, I had the power company come out and swap my 25 kVA for a 50 kVA one. There was no cost to me. Where I live in rural Virginia, nothing needs to be filed or justified with the county, it is all just between me and the POCO. I just called them up one day, and 20 minutes later an engineer was at my door step and I showed my power usage and he said yep, let's swap in a 50 kVA for you. The willingness of the utility company to upgrade your distribution transformer very much depends on the particular company and municipality (and, of course, how much average power you have drawn or are projected to draw). In my neck of the woods you practically have to set the pig on fire before the utility will replace it for free, and while they will gladly upgrade it if you pay them to do so, that can take weeks for the paperwork or whatever to work its way through the various bureaucracies. this is pretty much to case with us. |
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Inno gear is, and always will be terribly priced. Idk why that is and I quit trying to buy from them due to endless fustrations. Now as for Bitmain, I agree with the sentiment of everyone on here. They probably have better gear but they're not releasing them yet. They were hit pretty terribly with the whole Bcash fiasco. Regardless I'm not convinced that the near monopoly gear maker is now suddenly behind everyone else!
yeah its why I did the thread. btw the s9 at 564 + 80 to ship = 644 - 100 coupon = 544 btc at 8200 makes it 0.06634 btc pretty low price |
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I'd be leery on a presale. Just look at the M3 that went from almost $2k to under $300 from price wars and market fluctuation. Was a nice pump and dump. Glad I sold all mine shortly after receiving. They used more power than advertised too. Bitmain or Canaan has to be releasing something more efficient to start new price war for GMO and this. Someone will most likely be shipping something better/cheaper before these and GMO even start shipping.
The s9i is 544 with a 100 dollar coupon. 4 days out The m10 is 2200 with shipping 70 days out Tough call to spend 2200 on a preorder |
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actually houses in my area are so big, with hot tubs electric cars requiring 50kw fast chargers etc its not hard to find a house sized with 400amps, throw in a detached garage you can easily get permit for another 300 watt for a garage shop.
Its false that they make you pay for the transformer all they need is a city permit and they put up the pole if needed.
power is not an issues. the issue is residential rates are bad for mining. Im my shop i have businesses rates , slowly moving my rigs there. I pay .04 plus deman rate in the garage. In my residence i pay 12 to 15. cents in summer no less than .11 in winter
Well, just because the main breaker says 400A doesn't mean you can actually draw 400A for more than a few seconds. Firstly, the NEC limits maximum continuous use of any circuit to 80% of the wiring or breaker rating, whatever is less (usually the breaker). Secondly, the distribution transformer (usually affectionately referred to as a "pig" if mounted on a utility pole) will likely be rated for 10kVA to 50kVA if pole-mounted, and 50kVA to 200kVA if pad-mounted, and each transformer will likely serve 1 - 6 houses so you really don't have nearly as much power available as you might think. Our esteemed OP can probably provide a bit more detail on this seeing as he has had major electrical service work done, along with solar tie-ins, etc. well so many variables here. and the internet makes it hard to write precisely . As it gets boring to read a long reply. marvell is saying in his area he can get 400 + 300 = 700 amps which for a home owner is a lot of power. 700 x .8 = 560 at 240 volts = 134.4 24/7/365 draw thats a lot for a homeowner. you can run 100 avalon 841's or 100 6x1080ti rigs and that is a lot for a home. Marvell is also saying most home owners pay quite a bit more then 4 cents a kwatt. my garage cost is 18 cents in the summer and 10 cents in the winter. my home was never setup to run over 12 kwatts in the winter and runs under 3 watts in the summer my home is a 150 amp 220 single phase setup. The solar array has 400 amps 240 volts It runs buy solars house his office and the mining gear. and it never can go past 75 kwatts for charging back as the power company restricted sell back to 75 kwatts per daylight hour the array on a perfect sunny day in July could charge back 105 kwatts so power is wasted. this is due to transformer limits . Buysolar paid an extra 10000 for the transformer and some power company wire upgrades. Even though buysolar could make his field more powerful the power company won't handle it. Lets leave it at this:
tight margins favor:
cheap plentiful power.So a 2 megawatt solar flield can do 400kwatts for free that would be 300 s9is if you have an empty 2 megawatt field ready to go on ling you could buy 350 s9i's and make money for quite a while. so anyone with cheap power in abundance is buying those s9is buy extra for spare parts. my example above in nj would be 2million to setup and the gear would be about 220,000 more so 2,220,000 run 300 s9s keep the rest as parts. in 3 years it is still earning 10k a month you got back 1,000,000 of the 2,220,000 million and about 400,000 in tax credits you owe about 820,000 on a 2,220,000 investment and remember 2,000,000 of that is solar which has a 25 year life span this is killing the garage miner cause people with money see this a way to pay for solar. |
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I am not sure about a bitmain decred miner
I was going to say "it doesn't exist" but perhaps "they don't sell one yet" would be more accurate. and Innosilicon does not have an Eth miner or a B3 miner
Bitmain ETH miner (E3) is less efficient even than some GPUs, e.g. 1050Ti, so Innosilicon could probably beat it if they wanted to. Unfortunately Innosilicon as business sucks so badly that these efficiency gains don't really matter much. I know you said it's not about the price and all the other things but Bitmain the horrible pigopolist does those things better and they likely don't feel they need to compete for every watt. The difference isn't that big between the T2 and the S9(i), which I think is their main revenue source. and the t2 turbo now does 18.1th at 1350 watts the s9i does 14th at 1400 watts and a new miner from pangolinminer due in sept 2018 the m10 will be doing 33th at 2150 watts https://pangolinminer.com/2150/33000 = 0.0651 watts per gh the clear cut leader I know I can order 2 s9i's today for 1120 use my last 2 100 dollar coupons and pay only 920 for 28000 gh but with gear that is doing 0.066 vs 0.099 I have to pause and think what is best here. I owned a pangolin M3 it was okay and was shipped quickly to me. loud and hot but many miners are just that. |
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Is the 2350 cfm a calculation factoring the length of the ducting? The one on the quick price out is 2.8k cfm. So I should move to 3k+ for sure from you recommendation?
Reason for one hole is this is our garage, need to keep it aesthetically in tack more so than what I would once I get to the point of moving to find cheaper power.
the image was not very clear I thought it read 2350cfm. but as to hole size and length of tubing. the longer the tube = more friction the smaller the diameter = more friction so a 1600cfm fan with 1 foot tube length to move the air and at the same 1 foot diameter moves air a lot better then a 2800 cfm fan with a 10 inch tube and a six foot length . when I read your chart I saw a reducer in it 12 to 10 inches I saw a tube six feet long I read a 2350 cfm fan and I thought it may not work if the tubing is 1 foot with no reducer the fan is 2800cfm and the tube length is six feet I think you will be close to okay |
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so they do 2145/33000 = 0.065 per gh? and are really by far the best most efficient miner ever made? So if you purchased the GMO miner at .082 per gh you got crushed by this miner. The M10 is like a freaking beast btw bitmain has dropped the s9i down under 600 to 564 https://pangolinminer.com/M10 rules if this is true. |
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