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19441  Economy / Speculation / Re: What/who make the price of bitcoin on: February 22, 2017, 02:02:50 AM
i think its depend on the buyer and the seller in the market, how much the price they want to buy and sell bitcoin, after that the price is listed on the market. usually they make an order book in some range to buy or sell bitcoin so this list of order book will queue in the market and if there is an instant order then the list in the first place will be sold.
19442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Play with your profit or not? on: February 22, 2017, 01:59:20 AM
if you are not a regular gambler then you could not play with the profit bet when you are a regular gambler then you have to do it.
Yes, for those gamblers who prefer to stop after sometimes of gambling will not go for re-using their profits again into another round of gambling. Only the continuous gamblers will play again with profits and probably will stop only after facing loss of all the bankroll. Yes, playing with profits will find an end only at white-wash.

i think for continuous gamblers can do this too and i think its a good idea if they are not use the profit to place a bet and save the profit in their wallet or make it as investment with the house if the profit is big. but again, its the gamblers decision what its the best for them and what they want to do with their profit.
19443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 22, 2017, 01:41:35 AM
people became addicted to gambling starts when he wins and think that it can create instant money..and also when he losses which makes him more addicted into it trying to cope up with the money wasted.
Gambling might be enjoyable but also addictive.
I agree with you . all started from victory. because with a win we can get a lot of money. but after that most people only suffered loss and defeat. That's one of the things that I think characterizes gambling game.

from one victory to another victory, the gamblers can be too greedy and only thinking how to win the games with fast, easy, and safe but sometimes most gamblers don't thinking that to gets win in a gambling games, they can not do it in every time, but they should have a luck in the games and its the most important thing that every gambler should know.
19444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin prices could leap to $2000 in 2017? on: February 22, 2017, 01:36:22 AM
$2000 is possible but i won't be confident unless ETF is approved.  The recent rise is due to the upcoming ETF decision.  Traders are very optimistic that it will be approved and some are speculating that with the coming fund, bitcoin will rise in price and so they want to position themselves and cash out when a big increase happen.

yes, i am agree but we don't know when the time is coming to reach $2000 and we should be ready to waiting this price so we don't missed anything to make cash out. beside that, we are happy if there is many country will approve bitcoin so bitcoin user will be grow more and i hope this will give a good impact for the price although there is a little decrease before the increase price.
19445  Economy / Gambling / Re: virtual horse raceing interest ? on: February 22, 2017, 01:31:37 AM
I can't find something fair or easier to predict the result so horse racing doesn't interest me at all
It's just like you're playing gambling site with high odds with low chance of winning
because it is just like an ordinary gambling, there is no way to guess whether the horse is going to win or not, it is like dice with the house edge, we cannot do anything about it to beat it.

horse racing is something interesting because its almost the same with sports betting that we should have many good info about the team, in this situations, we should get many info about each horse so we can choose the horse to place a bet. i think as long as we have a good info, then we can predict with right although this is not guarantee for us to win, at least the chance for us is more than 50% to win.
19446  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you use a bot for trading? on: February 22, 2017, 01:27:46 AM
Can somebody send me in pm name of some kind of trading tool for trading in any site or just in specified site i really dont know how it works for which sites we can find program and can we get for free or we need to buy it.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1715214.0

You will be difficult to get it for free. most of the trading tools are not free in my mind.

yes, because that bot is need support from the dev and need to gets update and if we only get for free then we can not get the latest update. i am prefer to do trading with manual because from trading manual, i can learn many thing and trying to make my analyze so i think if we do this over and over, then in the long term, we can easy to analyze when the falling is come or when the increase price is come.
19447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 01:24:51 AM
Yes ,it will give you an advantage in some games you played ,well not all games need experience but your knowledge in experience playing you can do some adjustments ,like OP said about dice it is advanatage because you will know some betting styles how it works in such a small or big betting in order for you to win.

i am sure that experience will help us to understand the games, the experience that we have is make us to thinking another way that we can use to win. with experience, if something goes wrong, we can do other moves based from what we have in the past and its really help for us to analyze what is wrong with our moves so we can get the lesson and we can avoid in future.
19448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 22, 2017, 01:13:46 AM
I do not believe an analysis can affect the outcome of gambling. which I believe is the luck factor.
because gambling is a game that risked our luck. luck is far more important than others.
But its depend to the game that you gamble like in sports betting if you make some analysis in your bet game , team or individuals you can predict who will be the winner.
And your right dude I believe too in luck factor.

so far i think the analysis will work in sports betting and card games but in other games, i think that is not analysis but how we have a good experience to play the games because if we don't have any experience, we can not understand about how to playing the games with right way and this could makes us to get loss in short time.
19449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 22, 2017, 01:09:38 AM
It is really not easy to give up in gambling. Especially if you are already addicted to it. Giving up on it would be really difficult for you because your mind and body is already used in that habit of yours. Advices from friends or family won't work that much to you because your mind only thinks about gambling. You will just start quitting from it until you realize yourself that it already causes you some serious problems to you and the people around you.
Do some "useful" activities to replace gambling activities it really helps you much for stay away from gambling. It's not Instant yet slowly but sure, it gives you big effect for control your emotions especially for gambling (have been proven by me, and I will to play it when I want).

it could help us to stay away from gambling but we know that this is really difficult if we have addicting in gambling but its worth to try, we need to have patience to not thinking about gambling when we do other activities so we can forget about playing gambling in that day. we need other people to help us to come with us and watching and telling us if sometimes we remember about gambling.

Well that's right with some help with other people we might forget those gambling activities inside our minds, unless we are already addicted so we need professional help but if we are just in the part of willingly giving up just a help from someone who really cares about us will help a lot to keep our mind busy thinking of other things instead of gambling.
It takes a very sad experience or a traumatic experience before a seriously addicted gambler can quit, if the addiction is not yet worsen then there is a chance that he can be help by his family to be cured from such diseased.
However, those gamblers who are really just focus on gambling will not listed to his family and he will only learn in a hard way, possible outcome will be bankruptcy or losing his family due to lack of time with the family and unable to support the financial needs anymore.

Indeed. There are a lot of true stories to confirm this and most of the time the only way for a very addicted gambler to realize his error is to one day wake up he has lost everything important to him. This is a very hard lesson but sometimes, it takes these kinds of experiences for people to wake up

i hope that we don't have to get this and we better realize that so we can stop playing gambling before its too late for us. i am not sure what will happen that if in one day, if we have this experience and we don't take this as our best lesson in our life, then we can not do new movement to get better life in future and we can not fix our life.
19450  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Software for Trading on: February 22, 2017, 01:01:42 AM
Are there any safe platforms you can recommend?

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/

All of the site on there are the safe platforms. and very recommended.

this site is really recommended and i am using too, beside that site, maybe you can considering to visit cryptrader.com, i think this site is good too and sometimes i use it to compare one coin from one exchanges to another exchanges. but for software platform, maybe you can use tabtrader and ztrader for you android phone.
19451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: February 22, 2017, 12:56:14 AM
In gambling you need to know the playsafe game. So in playsafe game you need to set a profit goal and stop when you achieve your profit goal. In gaming you need to have strategy of how to bet double your bet if lost twice triple if thrice and so on so fort. Quadruple is the best because you achieve your profit in a short period of time.
It's risky since you'll be greedy in that. There is no playsafe if you will double or triple what is your base bet. I think to achieve the profit you want or target, you don't need to be greedy but to be patient. Everytime I gamble, if I feel that my win is enough, I would immediately stop and then will continue playing the game tommorow so that my mind will be more on focused and I think that we should limit the bet we are doing everyday.

but once we become greedy, then there is hard to reduce our greedy and we need to try hard so we can control our self in gambling games. i think its good to make a target in how much profit we should stop for playing and we can also make limitations for how much money that we could spend so if we are getting loss too much and we are far from our target, i think its a wise option for us to stop the games and leave that place and we can avoid for getting loss again.

Setting a target sometimes doesn't help as there would be times when we won't even be close enough to hitting that target. That means that we may be gambling beyond our means trying to reach that target similar to when we're chasing losses. Just try to be a responsible adult because you'll know what to do and when to stop if you act like one

we understand this but at least we have a target to do and if there are no chances for us reach the target then we don't have to get dissapointed because we can not win the games in every time and we should know that. i think when we want to make a target, make it as small until medium target or at least the amount of target is something that we can reach it.
19452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goodbye Bitcoin on: February 21, 2017, 04:40:52 AM
Goodbye Bitcoin? haha i would say goodbye if no one will use it or i will never used this again but for me it wont happen, bitcoin now is very developing and growing cryptocurrency since now and then. i will still use bitcoin because i dont see any reasons to leave bitcoin it. If bitcoin will encounter some problems then no doubt it will find away a solution and it will gives us more value

i am doing the same like you if there are no one use bitcoin again and maybe i will abandon my bitcoin in my wallet but i think its not gonna happen for now as we can see that the price is really good than last week. we can see that the price is increase more from yesterday and i hope the price will stay in that range.
19453  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining my own cloud? on: February 21, 2017, 04:37:40 AM
I'm the owner of a mid sized solar powered company with I think a good few hundred cpus and servers. I've been wondering if there is such a software I can install on all my machines that during off business hours will start mining for me and stop during normal business hours?

Anyone know if there is a way to do so? These are all windows based.

i think you can to try to install software from minergate and trying to mining the coins like bcn, xdn, etc, xmr, and else. i think you can get a nice results as you have hundred of cpus and servers so in a month, you can have much of amount from each servers. or you can use wallet from applebyte to mining abby but you need to install the wallet in your cpu.
19454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we earn bitcoin by Torrent seeding ? on: February 21, 2017, 04:34:06 AM
Just asking...

Interesting idea,by the way.

Perhaps we could  use VPS for 24/7 seeding. Grin

If there was such a company they would pay peanuts for this.

yes, maybe VPS is another solution for us to trying to earn bitcoin by torrent seeding. we can try with cheap vps first and see how much we can earn bitcoin and after we know how much the amount then maybe we can use high end VPS but of course we need to spend more money to buy VPS.

I don't get the point of being paid for seeding torrent files. I mean, there are lots of people out there who are willing to seed for the files they had downloaded, and who are willing to pay for those pirated torrents anyway?

i don't think that people wants to pay for what their download because i see in torrent sites, people is free to download anything they want and they can share any file from that torrents.
19455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dollars And Euros Removed How We Determine The Value Of Bitcoin? on: February 21, 2017, 04:30:22 AM
Right now we determine the value of bitcoin by dollars, euros and other currencies, but if we remove all the currencies and use only Bitcoin how we can know what is the value of Bitcoin?
Do we need to use MBTC then?

i don't know how we can determine the value of bitcoin if fiat is not exist, but maybe we can use another thing like gold, silver or other commodity to compared with bitcoin. i think we can be like a primitive civilization that using exchange to make a deal from buyer and seller and maybe we can barter with gold to bitcoin.
19456  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: February 21, 2017, 04:24:57 AM

And that's what makes gambling wrong. Because even we know and realize that we are going to lose a lot of money from it we want to recover our lose which is very popular to all of us. And our decision from doing that is making our gambling activity very wrong. That's why gambling is wrong when we keep on doing it.

There is nothing wrong with gambling, just play with money that you own yourself and there is nothing wrong with it. If you steal or gamble with money that you dont own than that is very wrong, in the end our action will determine the value of it wether it is wrong or not because things are not going to be smooth either even when we gamble
As long as you think that gambling is for fun, you'll never gonna experience any negative outcome on it. Spending money is already given, but you need to control that you can only afford what you lose otherwise, you know what will happen to your finances. Given the situation that we will not be able to control ourselves, still, it's not fair to call gambling as wrong since majority has enjoyed and only few has not.

its a good idea to thinking playing gambling is for fun as we don't need to play with using our emotion. but since in the gambling we can win or loss, i think and i hope that we don't have to influenced with the result because if we have thinking that we can win much in gambling then we don't do the right thing like what we thinking in beginning.
19457  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: February 21, 2017, 03:28:14 AM
I don't know man every time I play dice or any game that you can lose fast or win fast just with a few clicks I can feel my heart tapping on my throat
loool, how about you?

i feel my heart is beating too fast especially if i am getting red card in more than 5 times and i only thinking that maybe this is my time to quit and leave the sites. sometime i can stop the games directly but the other times, i am feel that i am having difficult to this, maybe the dice games is trying to seduce me to continue to playing gambling. i know this and its like we run in the long way and we don't have anybody that will  stay with us in gambling.
19458  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 21, 2017, 03:25:25 AM
I grew up in a community that gambling is a norm. Almost everyone is gambling from small children to very old people. So there is no shame in gambling. In our community, the better you are at it, the more popular you are.

i am sure that in your area, playing gambling is a normal activities but i don't think that in other area which is other country, gambling is normal activities too because every country or city have the different views about gambling so people is not thinking the same about gambling. but i have see in my city that people which is doing gambling is not being shameful and they don't hiding their activities from other people because they said to me that they don't hurt any other and they only do what they want.
19459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: February 21, 2017, 03:22:37 AM
It is really not easy to give up in gambling. Especially if you are already addicted to it. Giving up on it would be really difficult for you because your mind and body is already used in that habit of yours. Advices from friends or family won't work that much to you because your mind only thinks about gambling. You will just start quitting from it until you realize yourself that it already causes you some serious problems to you and the people around you.
Do some "useful" activities to replace gambling activities it really helps you much for stay away from gambling. It's not Instant yet slowly but sure, it gives you big effect for control your emotions especially for gambling (have been proven by me, and I will to play it when I want).

it could help us to stay away from gambling but we know that this is really difficult if we have addicting in gambling but its worth to try, we need to have patience to not thinking about gambling when we do other activities so we can forget about playing gambling in that day. we need other people to help us to come with us and watching and telling us if sometimes we remember about gambling.
19460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 21, 2017, 03:18:06 AM
i think anyone can be rich from gambling if they play gambling with skill and if someone experience in gambling they will be sooner rich from gambling because we can earn profit in short time through gambling.

I don't think so because even you will gamble with skills and you know how to take risk that will still not matter at all. Because most of us who gambles that way have the same fate and if ever we are going to win some amount and can make us rich this is just applicable to very few gamblers who are actually lucky.
Hence, anyone can be rich from gambling, that was he meant to say. Despite of risk, there is still a chance. That smallest chance will lead you or will make you rich. However, it shouldn't be the major source lr factor for you to be rich. It's still better to become rich from something you put your effort.

i agree with you but the most gamblers is only getting loss in gambling games and they don't know that they have two option when they playing gambling which is win or loss. we can getting rich from gambling but we need to have a discipline from this and we should quickly stop from the games when we know that we have win too much and we need to know when we must stop the games.
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