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19521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: February 16, 2017, 02:02:31 AM
Of course i'm not, if i would be then probably i wouldn't gamble. Many people feel shame not for gambling, but for losing, and probably for being addicted to gambling. I don't think it is very bad to gamble, it is all right unless you have to steal or lie just to get money to gamble, or of course if you gamble loads of money, then gamblers should feel shame

That's true. Losing is what's really shameful part of gambling, specially if you already boasted that you are a sure winner and that you keep on winning, and that gambling is your milking cow already, and it turns out that it is not.

Being a gambler is not that shameful, it is only shameful when you are already out of bounds, when all that you've mention is already been done, that's shameful to be like that.

Why would i have to be shameful for being a gambler .I do not have a problem gambling so i do not have any problem with it.I would feel guilty after having every masturbation  Cheesy but i do not give a damn nor do i feel ashamed if i am gambling.
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Certainly. When you are getting into problems already, that's shameful.


I don't think that losing is the shameful part in gambling. What's shameful is that you failing to control on your emotions and being addicted to gambling. If you also are affecting your relationships with others and asking them for money, then that's the time to feel ashamed. It's not healthy for you and your family.

maybe if we are losing is not like shameful but its like regret for our losing. being shameful in our self is good because we still have our emotions to not getting addicting person and if we trying to control ourself, then i am sure that soon or later, we are feeling shameful when we are playing gambling in future. but its not guarantee to us to getting shameful if we don't limit ourself when we are playing gambling.
19522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: February 16, 2017, 01:51:42 AM
We associate gambling as something that you're playing cards, dice, roulette, and you'll have to bet your money to do so. But by definition, yes, gambling means taking a risk. When you're trading, you're basically gambling your money.

Only difference is the fact that when you're doing the typical gambling game, you're risking your whole money and when you lose, all of them will be lost. In trading, you can prevent having more losses by selling your coins when the price is starting to decrease. You can't lose 100% of your money in trading unless it goes from a really high price to 1 satoshi per coin.
In a way  you are correct since everything is a gamble but the difference is that in gambling you know your  EV is negative, you are going to lose money, but in trading, your EV can be either positive or negative, if you are any good then your EV will most likely be positive, and you could make your living out of it.

so i think we should maintain our effort to be positive in gambling and trading because if we only doing trading or gambling without having a
good effort then its the same like we are going to risk our money and we can not make profit as we want.

i think its difficult to keep our effort to stay normal and we can control our emotion so we dont get stuck in gambling or trading so there is a different between gambling and trading for us and we can easily separate it when we do each of activity.
19523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: February 16, 2017, 01:47:22 AM
If it's done right, and the person is lucky -most important- and with decent skills for sport betting it can be profitable, not on long term but at least there is a possibility of making positive return from it rather than just fun.

Don't know about Dice though, even though the house edge is lower than say Texas H rake and sportbetting, the fact that no skills is involved at all takes away that part completely and it's just about getting lucky IMO.

All of it are gambling. There is no real profit in it in the long term. Winning few times is good enough to think about quitting or trying new one. If we focus too much on one game, obsession comes next and losing starts too.

With that said, betting only few times could be profitable, depending on luck. But continuously betting for hours could make you great loss in money and time.  Smiley

its true and we should knew it after we played many times, there is no chances for us to make profit in everytime we playing gambling. making profitable activity in gambling maybe can work if we are pro gambler and we mastered the games but we need to increase our skills in the games so we can have much of profit in gambling games too.

i think for doing sports betting can make us to get profitable activity because we don't just win the money but our knowledge in each team will be increase and its useful for us to know what we should do in other match.
19524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you choose casino to play? on: February 16, 2017, 01:43:15 AM
Hi guys!
Everyone in Oshi including myself is very curious how do you choose the casino to play in?
What's the most important to you? Bonuses? Or something else?
For me personally it's the website's design and the number of games offered. 

i am choosing the casino is by reading the most recommended on here but sometimes i am choose the new casino because i want to know what its look like to playing in the new one. i think maybe bonuses is a good for me and with the bonus for new member, i think we can start to playing the games. beside bonuses, i think faucet is an option to get free money in gambling sites and i think all of gambling sites that i played have faucet games. the design is another option, if the site got heavy loading to open homepage, i think i don't like it because it needs more time to load the homepage.
19525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: February 15, 2017, 01:08:22 PM
i am still playing with dice games since dice games is easy games for me to play and i don't have to thinking too much or too serious. the other games that i can play is slots and i think slots is easy too like dice. as i only want to spend my free time, i don't have any problem if in one games i only get loss and can not continue to play because the money is emptied.
19526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most of the money on: February 15, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
Most of my earnings are from dice. The bad thing is that most of my losses are from dice as well. It's just so easy to play but the odds are on the side of the house of course.

mostly we get the money from the dice game, but most also lose money on the dice game. Dice games are games of chance, games tempt fate. Place a bet many times in a long time. We did a couple of wins when lucky, but the number of the defeat was too much, and sometimes even more than the number of victories.

its good if we have earning from dice games but we can not always get the money from the games, sometimes we can get loss and we don't know how much we have loss. we can have the most of the money from many different games, but we need to calculate how much we can get from one games. i think the most of the money that i can get is from dice too but i think what i am get is not big like other gamblers so until now i am not yet withdraw the money.
19527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 15, 2017, 01:01:29 PM
All of the interest in gambling is the fun and entertainment involve in gambling that is why people do not leave to gamble even in the time when they continue to lose their money. They mostly put smaller amount of money in gambling in order to continue their gambling for getting the fun.
Hey, trust me no one ever gambles for fun !
It is just a hype created by owners or some investors that gambling is a fun activity, basically offline or casinos gambling is a fun activity but really tell me whats the fun in clicking roll 100 times and tiring your eyes ?

The truth is that we all (even me yeah) gamble for money and we chase money.

Of course all people who gamble are expecting to get money, but what I know about "gamble for fun" here means that gamblers does noy really care about the result whether win or lose. When you gamble but you cant afford to lose then it doesn't count to "gamble for fun".


yes its true and its happen with me, i don't care if i can win much of money or not, as long as i can enjoy with the games, i am fine with the results. maybe this is my reason why i am still gambling until now. i know its a bad habit for me and maybe in someday, i will really stop and quit from gambling online and never playing gambling again.
19528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: SURVEY on the popularity of these ways to gamble. on: February 15, 2017, 12:57:33 PM
i give my vote in dice games and slots games since i am play that games in many times and i am agree that gambling is one of many reason that makes bitcoin getting popular for many people. and i think that dice games is the most popular games that many people is played and maybe its because the games is simple and easy to play so they only just play, push the button and get reward or loss the money.
19529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OpenBazaar now with TOR support, what do you think? on: February 15, 2017, 12:49:15 PM
maybe its good for OpenBazaar to develop and use TOR support and they can get more benefit from this. but for me, i think if they use TOR, then i think they give support for black market and i think they can get trapped with illegal activities because we don't know what people buy with TOR support.
19530  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: February 15, 2017, 12:43:42 PM
I guess the probability of that happening is very low, we cannot expect it will be a currency that will replace the current system. It will only be a payment system online and nothing more special than that,  can be regulated by the government and anonymous transaction can only happen if you will not convert your transaction to fiat. Always consider than if a certain exchange sites will not comply, the government can sanction them.
That's what I'm thinking too,  is an alternate currency online and also an alternative method on processing our payments. So it will not replace the fiat money of every country, there is only an adaptation but not replacement.
you are right paper money has its own importance..... we can't use  as a daily use without exchanging it...... if you say about internet than i think it will become global currency in future.........

In my point of view it would be very hard to Bitcoin can replace fiat. To become a global currency Does it have to beat all currencies? Indirectly, Bitcoin is used globally, it means that Bitcoin has become one of the global currency without having to get rid of another global currency.
Correct me if i wrong, thanks

we need more time to see bitcoin is becoming a global currency and there will be a mass adoption in every where since until now, there is only few people know bitcoin in one country. if the bitcoin user is united and maybe make an proposal to the government and give explain to the government that bitcoin is a good thing and they can get involve in bitcoin too, then i think we don't need too long to see bitcoin as global currency.
19531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 15, 2017, 12:22:22 PM
One precondition to play gambling in a smart way is to select the operator wisely, because there are some shady operators out there, like betcoin.ag, who will not honor the prizes you won or defraud you or embezzle your account balance! Like it already happened in the height of over US $300 million!

Choosing a casino is a good suggestion. But it seems that you are always targeting betcoin.ag Cheesy Oh well, you are right with it. Because with that case I stopped using betcoin too. I can also add that you should really be responsible when you gamble and don't let your emotion get you when you win small amount. Just focus on what you are doing.

beside for choosing a casino, i think we need to choose the games that we are often to playing gambling because if we are new in one games, then how good is the sites, if we don't know how to play the games, then the chances is small for us to win the games. so its better to select reputable casino, select the games only that we can played, spend money that we dont' have to worried or regret if something bad is happen.
19532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think of people that treat Bitcoin solely as an investment? on: February 15, 2017, 12:17:52 PM
I've seen a lot of people arguing that Bitcoin can be profitable because of its volatility and convenience, but sometimes I feel that people using Bitcoin as an investment have little enthusiasm for its main use as a means of trading without an intermediary.

Under what circumstances should Bitcoin be treated as investment and to what extent should people think about its use as a global currency?

i think this is what should people do with bitcoin, they can make bitcoin as an investment and they can use or treat bitcoin for many purpose that they want. i think when we know bitcoin for first time, we need to thinking and know what is bitcoin benefit and what is bitcoin function for our daily life and its a good way to treat bitcoin as our investment. for me, i will treat bitcoin as an investment and something that i can use for doing trading.
19533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where and which part of day do you gamble? on: February 15, 2017, 12:11:23 PM
the most day for me to gamble is on weekend because on this days i am out of work
Thats good, you set yourself when to gamble, i also have work and i gamble mostly before going to bed at night when i dont have anything to do. sometimes everynight but when im busy i can play twice a week.

you are good too sir, because i don't think that you are playing gambling in everyday and i think we can do like what you do so we don't have to be like addicting person in gambling. i don't have selecting days to gamble, i am playing gambling only if i want and if i have to work in a week, then i am not gamble in a week and maybe in next week i will playing gambling.
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i think the images is need to reduce a little bit more because if i am test with my internet connection, its a longer for completed the process to open the homepage. but i think the design is very attractive for new people and member, its good to see that the minimum deposit is 0.003 btc and i think i can trying to make a bet in your sites. congratulations for the launch sir.
19535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone ever stop gambling? but then gamble again? on: February 15, 2017, 11:56:27 AM
Well i do some bets while in a while i dont see the real need or interest into putting my bitcoin at risk expecting to get a bit more, i do make sport gambling, but isnt something i really care, my last bet were 1000 doge i had won and it had changed my life at all, i do gamble with tiny ammounts, soo i cant regret if i loose or win.

And then due the idea of the main topic
I thought there were a moment when a gambler caller to break for a while not to stop because in my opinion the gambler will never stop to play what did by gambler is only waiting a right time to tune into gambling again Smiley

They only stopped temporarily because they did not want to stop. Those who do break while it is only waiting for the right moment to play. But if one seriously wants to stop, then when he stops he is not stopped for a while, but it did stop, stay away from gambling. It all depends on how strong intention and that intention.

i know the person which is stop from gambling but its in temporarily because he don't have money to playing gambling anymore, but after next week when he got paid, then he come to the sites and continue to playing gambling. maybe we can see this happen with many people and they only stop for a while and in other day, the will come back in gambling sites or gambling places.
19536  Economy / Exchanges / Re: buy bitcoin with credit card without registraation on: February 15, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
for the OP, i think its not good to using credit card to buy bitcoin or another thing because we should be aware with fraud that could happen and they can stolen our credit card number and use for many purpose. i think its better to use fiat to buy bitcoin and you need to deposit or transfer your money to third party service.
19537  Economy / Services / Re: do you have a Paypal account? Make $100 - $1500 /day on: February 15, 2017, 11:15:31 AM
Just my 5c. Transfer of $10,000/mo is a red flag for all banks who works with USD. PayPal is also a bank and use same investigation technique.   


then you don't have to transfer it for monthly, you can do it for weekly but in small until middle amount and i think paypal will not suspicious about your activity. but i am not sure about this opportunity, maybe OP needs to explain a little bit so we can know what exactly OP want and people will not thinking that this is a scam.
19538  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: February 15, 2017, 11:12:01 AM

I want to generate a constant monthly gain. Is it possible to do this by bitcoin trading? So, can I just do this by dealing with BTC trading?
Are there any people among us who can make a living by trading in BTC?

Trading is a very unpredictable job so as well as bitcoin trading too. The movement of the market is not the same everyday so you won't also get fixed daily profit too.

Yes there are some people who make a living by bitcoin trading. But their profit is not always the same. Sometimes it few, sometimes its above their target profit, and sometimes they lose too. They just know how to recover it so we don't notice they are also losing from it.
You are right profits on bitcoin or forex trading doesnt have any fixed rate or income and as you said there are times which do gain on small amounts and sometimes you gain big it depends on the market movement and on how you trade.Yes its really possible to make living with trading but does depend on how good you are.

we can not make fix income with btc trading and altcoin trading and i think its because bitcoin price and altcoin price is changing from time to time and what we can do is only make a profit or loss in value and waiting for next increase moment in next day. but i am sure and i believe that we can make living from trading as long as we can stay focus with the trading and we need to increase our skills too so we can make big profit.
19539  Economy / Economics / Re: Build a Bank Of Bitcoin on: February 15, 2017, 11:06:49 AM
if i build a bank of bitcoin that operating like a traditional fiat money bank when people can save the money and get interest for their saving and also people can get a loan from my bank but the fiat money is change for bitcoin, the question is would you guys trust me to save your bitcoin on my bitcoin bank that i want to build ?
I think bitcoin bank concept is not different with wallet and exchange company. You can see they manage your money in another place/countries. You don't who is behind that company, you don't where is their office but you trust them to store your money in bitcoin online wallet.
So I don't think build a bitcoin bank can make a unique concept, it can lose the character of bitcoin it self. When you meet the bank's teller to save your bitcoin, it's no anonymous anymore.
If theres a bitcoin bank then it will definitely remove the most important feature of bitcoin which is anonymity because if we do put it on banks then we really need to share our identity since it does really need for this kind of service on which the same on fiat banks we do know.

indeed, especially if the government wants to involve with the bank then i am sure that government wants to know who is the people is using bitcoin and who is the person which have much of bitcoin in their account. but if the bank its not like traditional bank, then they should protect their customer/member, maybe the function is like the ordinary bank that we've know.
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