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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] -=LH Crypto=-|FOREX in Crypto for EveryOne| JOIN OUR SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN on: December 18, 2017, 12:43:45 PM
WEEK 8 (12.12-18.12)

https://twitter.com/LHCrypto/status/940537704814661632
https://twitter.com/LHCrypto/status/940972616277512193
https://twitter.com/LHCrypto/status/941244821154484224
https://twitter.com/LHCrypto/status/941642104413085697
https://twitter.com/LHCrypto/status/942673573210140672
1962  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Dark Enlightenment on: December 15, 2017, 10:03:01 PM
I actually has no idea of what dark enlightenment is. however i hope it was not harmful to anyone. And hopefully helpful.

Xena, check this article:
https://steemit.com/politics/@voloshyn/cryptocurrency-philosophy-and-politics-right-wing-and-left-wing-influences

It's not only about Dark Enlightenment, but I hope it will give you some idea.
Then you can read works on Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin, or at least some short brief of their ideas in the internet.
As for me recently I got Curtis Yarvin's book ob Kindle (Mencius Moldbug - that's his pseudonym, name of a book "A Gentle Introduction to Unqualified Reservations "
1963  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Colonising Planets on: December 15, 2017, 09:51:19 PM
Elon Musk is a fraud and a cheater. He is completely useless and he never delivers on his promises. If anyone is going to colonize Mars, I can assure you that it is not going to be Elon Musk. He is just empty talk and no action. He is only interested in fleecing money from his unsuspectful investors.

Why you don't like him? It seems he is much better than many other tech entrepreneurs, and in general he is appreciated in crypto-community.
I read book and him and he seems to be interesting. He has a goal, he has a vision.
I see you are Legendary member, so I'm really interested in your opinion, you probably know about him more than me.

Also interesting article about Cryptocurrency philosophy and politics, Musk is mentioned there
https://steemit.com/politics/@voloshyn/cryptocurrency-philosophy-and-politics-right-wing-and-left-wing-influences
1964  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency Market Cap bigger than Facebook!!! on: December 15, 2017, 09:46:16 PM
And maybe we are bigger than facebook now, but it is only because we are counting the marketcap of the little coins too.

This forum is better than facebook. Some people don't find it usable enough, but I like it, it reminds me old days of web with dialup internet when you had to wait for page to open...
1965  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Crypto currency Book | Register to get the book , FREE on: December 15, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
It is going very well thank you. I might talk about a few ICO's however I want to refrain from any sort of advertisement or promotion so I will try and stay away from that aspect.

Yes, that's reasonable thought, even because there are so many ICOs now, so hard to choose which one to talk about
1966  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency Market Cap bigger than Facebook!!! on: December 15, 2017, 09:38:42 PM
The current chain holds 280 million transactions and it's close to 200 Gb in size.
How are you going to store the details of 2 billion accounts and their data and keep the whole thing decentralized?
Fb generates around half of petabyte a day, that is not going to fit on any node run at home.

I don't mean that all facebook-alternative should be stored for everyone.
I mean there should be some solutions in future.
I.e. Steemit which I mentioned works fine. Of course there are not billion accounts, but there are many projects now which focus on social network or at least similar approach - so I'm sure facebook-on-blockchain is the matter of time. Even though it might be not the blockchain we have now, or even not what is "blockchain" but some crypto-focused technology.
1967  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Українська (Ukrainian) on: December 15, 2017, 09:33:00 PM
Our team is growing!
We are working on our ICO campaign and looking forward to new teammates,  campaign assistants, and advisors.

It would be good if you can provide more details, as such post looks very general
It's not even understandable why you post it specifically in this thread, or may be you are copy/pasting it everywhere.
You can post job post on related sites
1968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [HACKEN] FIRST DECENTRALIZED MARKETPLACE FOR WHITE HAT HACKERS on: December 15, 2017, 03:24:21 PM
After your post I rechecked my Orderbook but my balance is still 0.
Anyway I hope it will arrive later.
Yes you can withdraw to your MEW, but you can trade it on Orderbook, there is already trading going on
https://www.orderbook.io/#/trading/HKN-ETH
1969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HST][ICO] Horizon State - Decision Token - voting platform - sale over on: December 15, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
Roadmap is available on the official web-site: https://horizonstate.com/

Also I would advise you to join Telegram group, there is always big and friendly discussion there.
So big that I can't follow all the postings) It's hard to scroll up)
1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] LATIUM - OFFICIAL BOUNTY THREAD [Token Sale - November 28, 2017] on: December 15, 2017, 03:18:14 PM
week 6 ( 8- 15 dec)

Twitter Username : @Flodner
Twitter Link: https://twitter.com/flodner
Followers : 11 400 +

https://twitter.com/LatiumCoin/status/940634660438233088
https://twitter.com/LatiumCoin/status/940978390659629057
https://twitter.com/LatiumCoin/status/940971431369805825
1971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] $360 000 ⚡ Arbitrage Crypto Trader ⚡ (Terminal + BOT) ⚡ on: December 15, 2017, 03:14:41 PM
Posts for this week:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/flodner/posts/1629906810421560

Twitter: https://twitter.com/arbitrage_ct/status/941252089329668098
1972  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency Market Cap bigger than Facebook!!! on: December 15, 2017, 02:36:33 PM
What we really need is blockchain alternative for facebook.
There is Steemit (by the way who is there you can follow me https://steemit.com/@flodner)
But it lacks some of facebook features
So Steemit can be and should be major blockchain blog platform, but for social media something new should be created!
Any ideas?
1973  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The UAE and Saudi Arabia create a crypto currency only for two on: December 15, 2017, 01:23:31 PM
Very small information on that links.
It would be really interesting to hear about UAE and Saudi Arabia plans in this area and about their ICO plans, startups in general.
I've met only few, i.e. http://cryptobnb.io/
Cryptobnb looks very interesting, alternative for AirBnb

But if you know some other projects - please share info
1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [AIRDROP] MorningStar Payment Systems 💰| 100% PoS | 20% interest 1st year on: December 15, 2017, 01:17:15 PM
Hello Fabio,
Thanks for e-mail, just replied to you!
I think if you'll need to be pro and popular in cryptocurrency topics you should be on Twitter
And hopefully also on Reddit, Steemit
1975  Local / Other languages/locations / Re: Українська (Ukrainian) on: December 15, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
Перекличка) Хто сьогодні на конференції в Києві? (Нам же треба більше постів в цьому розділі - тому хай відпишуть всі ))
Як враження?
Як на мене досить цікаво, Києв і справді одна з найважливіших криптовалютних столиць!
1976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [KRB] Karbo (Ҝ) Карбованець - Cryptonote / Anon on: December 15, 2017, 12:59:29 PM
Guys, as you probably know some restaurants in Kyiv accept cryptocurrencies (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Dash, and some others will be available soon)
It's promoted by the guys from Dash community
What do you think if it's possible to add Karbo to this system?
I.e. after mobile wallet will be created?
I think that's great for promotion!
1977  Economy / Economics / Austrian School of Economics - Books, Suggestions, Opinions on: December 15, 2017, 12:55:41 PM
Hello,

Many of us know and appreciate Austrian School of Economics.
But who actually read those authors?

Even the wikipedia alone gives this list:

Eugen Böhm von Bawerk Walter Block Peter Boettke Thomas DiLorenzo Frank Fetter Roger Garrison Friedrich Hayek Henry Hazlitt Robert Higgs Hans-Hermann Hoppe Steven Horwitz Jesús Huerta de Soto Israel Kirzner Ludwig Lachmann Don Lavoie Peter Leeson Fritz Machlup Carl Menger Ludwig von Mises Robert Murphy William H. Peterson Murray Rothbard Joseph Salerno Friedrich von Wieser Richard Ritter von Strigl Gottfried Haberler Oskar Morgenstern

As for me I read some of Friedrich Hayek, and some others.

Let's share here links to books, opinions, etc.

Also you can check this article about Bitcoin politics and philosophy on Steemit

Cryptocurrency Philosophy and Politics: Right Wing and Left Wing Influences
1978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [HACKEN] FIRST DECENTRALIZED MARKETPLACE FOR WHITE HAT HACKERS on: December 15, 2017, 12:48:18 PM
Right now I'm on Blockchain conference in Kyiv and speaker who speaks right now is Andriy Velykyy - he started his speech with mentioning Hacken!
Interesting, he is talking about ICOs in general, but I think he'll be returning to Hacken's case more and more in his speech
1979  Other / Politics & Society / Cryptocurrency Philosophy and Politics: Right Wing and Left Wing Influences on: December 15, 2017, 12:19:16 PM
I'm posting this article here in full, but if you like it, or at least some aspects of it - please Upvote, Resteem on Steemit
https://steemit.com/politics/@voloshyn/cryptocurrency-philosophy-and-politics-right-wing-and-left-wing-influences

Let's make this topic popular there!

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Bitcoin and blockchain as technology is neutral. However political and metapolitical ideas circulate and spread fast in the digital age so the penetration of ideologies into cyber-world, establishment of new and rebirth of old ideas is happening and will happen even if general audience do not notice this.

Was Bitcoin’s founder, Satoshi Nakamoto a Libertarian?

The mysterious creator of Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto wrote the following about Bitcoin: “It’s very attractive to the libertarian viewpoint if we can explain it properly. I’m better with code than with words though.”

Such line can also describe many other cryptographers, blockchain developers and other influential people from the cyber world. For people from tech industry it’s normal to be focused on technical aspects, and when famous tech leaders are advanced in humanitarian disciplines, be it literature, philosophy or politics, it’s more exceptional cases.
This line is also point of debates whether Satoshi Nakamoto was libertarian himself or pointed that Bitcoin concept can be promoted to libertarians as target audience. Taking to account that this phrase he wrote when Bitcoin was not so popular it might be the case. In December 2010, Bitcoin was featured in popular edition - PC World in the article titled “Could the Wikileaks Scandal Lead to New Virtual Currency?”. Commenting this Satoshi wrote: “It would have been nice to get this attention in any other context. WikiLeaks has kicked the hornet's nest, and the swarm is headed towards us.”

It’s worth to mention that there are many version regarding who is Satoshi Nakamoto, one of the versions was that he is Julian Assange, creator of Wikileaks. Assange is considered an advocate of information transparency and market libertarianism. As and advance programmer and popular person in the cyber world for sure he was aware of Bitcoin and its power much before than the general audience and he used it to collect money for Wikileaks (he is still using Bitcoins as well as other cryptocurrency). We can see that during those times Satoshi was not happy to be associated with Wikileaks, may be because he was afraid of the possible attacks on Bitcoin, but maybe also because he was not interested in Wikileaks, as many tech people are not interested in political events and do not watch TV. Julian Assange might be considered right-wing by economical definition, but he is definitely left in cultural and political sense. In his book he is writing with hatred about BNP (British National Party) and is proud that Wikileaks released members’ list of BNP with the goal of making problems to people whose data was published online. Those years BNP was one the rise and got 2 MEPs elected, as for now party almost fell apart and in 2014 their leader acted as Putin’s puppet repeating the most stupid messages of Russian propaganda regarding Russian aggression in Ukraine. But definitely Wikileaks’ publication of membership data was privacy violation and the characteristics which Assange gave to this party were not libertarian, moreover the left parties were not targets of Wikileaks.

Satoshi Nakamoto even though his identity is unknown, became great internet leader, if he would push some philosophical ideas – for sure some people would follow them. But he only mentioned libertarianism. May be somebody perceived it as hint, but the whole concept of Bitcoin, peer-to-peer money exchange network goes in line with many libertarian ideas, such as skepticism of state power, decentralization, economical freedom.
Bitcoin in fact could replace the states’ financial system and having thousands of miners all around the world the whole system is decentralized and indestructible, and at the same time protected and transparent.

Software as a Right-wing Extremism

There is one book with funny name “Politics of Bitcoin. Software as a right-wing Extremism”, where the author states:
“Certainly, many leaders in the digital technology industries, and quite a few leaders who do not work for corporations, openly declare their adherence to libertarian or other right-wing ideologies. Just a brief list of these includes figures like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Eric Raymond, Jimmy Wales, Eric Schmidt, and Travis Kalanick.”

And later:

“Cyberlibertarian doctrine did not develop in a vacuum. It fits into, and at best does nothing to resist, the profound rightward drift evident in so much of contemporary politics. This becomes clear when we examine the explicit political and economic doctrine and practice that is usually called libertarianism in the United States (here meaning the political movement that is explicitly advocated by right-wing partisan institutions such as the Cato Institute, the Heartland Foundation, the Mises Institute, and others, as well as astroturf movements like the Tea Party and political figures like Ron Paul and Rand Paul) and its connections with the less explicit doctrine analysts call neoliberalism. Both of these doctrines or dogmas stem from the writings of core right-wing thinkers such as Friedrich August von Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, Milton Friedman, Rothbard, and others, as well as their more recent followers.”

While it might be funny to classify Elon Musk and Nobel prize laureate Milton Friedman as right-wing extremists, the author really think that from these people further from the right are only fascists, who also for political, economical or philosophical reasons admire Bitcoin.
Well, it’s not bad to be in such respectful company! I provide this quotation because, although it’s not correct to call all these people extremists, such names as Friedrich von Hayek and Ludwig von Mises represent Austrian School of economic thought, which is known and favored in the conservative movement.

Also according to the author the whole essence of Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies is making favor for right-wing movement, while the left doesn’t need Bitcoin.
Anarchists, anarcho-capitalists from cyber world often claim that they want less government, less regulation, or no government at all, but they do not form a strong movement and usually don’t classify themselves as some movement (i.e. new left). Moreover anarcho-capitalist intellectuals are usually influenced by the same mentioned namez from Austrian School and by libertarian authors. Mentioned above Murray Rothbard was first person to use the term anarcho-capitalism. He synthesized elements from the Austrian School of economics, classical liberalism, and 19th-century American individualist anarchists.

New Names, New Movements

Anarcho-capitalism is popular in cryptocurrency world. Very often anarcho-capitalists may support such left-wing topics as illegal immigration, same sex marriages, mixture of races and cultures, but economically or even politically be on the right-wing side. In example one of the Anarchopulco’s (anarcho-capitalist conference founded by journalist and crypto-enthusiast Jeff Berwick) speakers Marc Victor said that he would support libertarian candidates, but also he would support republican and conservative. So anarcho-capitalism is popular among crypto-community intellectuals, but it’s not the only ideological movement, and for sure not the most interesting among them.

Neoreactionary movement (neoreaction, the Dark Enlightenment) is considered to be founded by Curtis Yarvin also known as Mencius Moldbug, who is also software engineer and has his blockchain project Urbit (the term Dark Enlightenment is invented by Nick Land, British philosopher and writer).
This movement is characterized by Radical traditionalism, political authoritarianism, ethnic nationalism, hostility to feminism, multiculturalism, and progressivism in all its forms, especially democracy and equality, and… favor towards Austrian school of economics.

As for me, Dark Englightment is almost identical to the Archeofuturism, the concept of keeping values of ancestors but with the latest advances in science and technology, which also might include nowadays popular world “transhumanism” and technological utopism.

Well-known entrepreneur Peter Thiel, who is friend of Curtis Yarvin, and openly supported Trump (in contast to many other famous tech people who backed Clinton and were afraid of Trump) wrote in his book “Zero to One” that “Innovative technological companies are rather look like feudal monarchies than as ordinary “modern” organizations. Stephen Bannon who was White House Chief Strategist in Trump administration communicated with Curtis Yarvin, at least through the intermediary, and as intellectual Stephen Bannon is known for being aware not only about many economists from the circles of Austrian school, but less known to general audience figures such as Julius Evola.

The variety of new people and names in crypto-currency, digital philosophical and political movement will increase. Cryptofeudalism can be good name. Because there can be a good question: What if a model of feudal society will work better for the tech post-industrial informational age? The archetype of feudal leader is reborn in the Leader-Entrepreneur type who has not only a goal do run business and earn money (like most of ordinary people, and honestly, many people became interested in bitcoin as mostly investment option and earning money possibility), but has a vision. Vision and the higher goal might be different, it can be colonization of other planets or inventing new technologies to making life better, or funding serious scientific programs.
Anyway, internet world already became part of reality, and new metapolitics, new political philosophy is already shaping thoughts and deeds of people from cyber world and beyond.

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Andriy Voloshyn's speech in Zagreb (Croatia) - 10 December 2017
1980  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Hrvatska and Zagreb are great! Any blockchain events in the nearest future? on: December 15, 2017, 09:05:20 AM
Hello everyone!
Sorry for writing in English, as my Croatian is bad) (actually I can understand some but hard to speak)
I was few days ago in Zagreb for the first time and I like this city a lot!
I plan to return so it would be interesting to hear which events, places related to blockchain do you have?

Also nice that you have your separate forum section here!
Unfortunately Ukraine (that's where I'm from) doesn't have it's section.. (and we have bigger population, but I don't know why forum admins deny opening section)

But in Croatia I felt myself like at home!
Thank you Croatians for supporting Ukraine!
I hope to visit your country more and more!

P.s. See you if not on blockchain event, then on Turbofolk party)
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