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1961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Any clue why whales are pumping shit coins at DEX? on: November 20, 2019, 01:22:55 PM
This thing is ocassionally happen at crypto investment and even you can see it at centralized exchange such as binance. Have you know when bittoren was launching? Its price was experiencing increased a lot, I hope you know it.

May I guessed? You made this thread just because you see there is a coin who has been increasing for almost 1500%, isn't it? If I suggesting you must be familiar with this thing. Even, you can see it everyday at coinmarketcap, there is a feature namely the bigger and loser coin.

I don't have any idea to comment what whales did to this market. Clearly, without them the market cryptocurrency just will like another place of investment such as forex and etc.
1962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Are we all fools on believing the word "HOLD"? on: November 20, 2019, 11:40:41 AM
Sometimes you have to follow what is in your heart and mind, ignore with what everyone says and do what you want. Let be imagine, you spend money for investing which is mean you have a right to do anything with your investment. Don't be easy to believe the suggestion of someone else, sometimes it will decieve you.

You can find the ins and out of the coin that you choose for your investment so as you will know and have your own prediction of the coin. I get used to sell the half my investment when the bull run came, because it will make me comfortable, I mean, when the price going down I have got profit from it and when the coin price going up I'll get double profit.

This is a leason for you, your money is yours and there is no reason to believe other people because when you felt lost they don't necessarily feel the same way as you.
1963  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Preparing for a recession... Gold or Bitcoin? on: November 20, 2019, 11:15:28 AM
Sound good to choose both of them, you can make them as your source place to store your money. I mean, bitcoin with its volatility price can give you a huge income when the recession is really comes. Also, you will keep your money safely to store it at the gold. Have you think this idea? Yeah I guess it is really simple to think about.
1964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social experiments in the world of gambling on: November 19, 2019, 02:41:56 PM
If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?
I won't spend money for someone who will play gambling. Because it won't help him but it will give him have a lot of debt and I'll he will never pay the debt to me and yeah that's the thing I want to avoid.

It is enough to give him a suggestion to don't play gambling first, give him a learning how to play well and give some advice to leave gambling before all his money used up. It pairs enough to me, even this thing will made by him as a learning and it will be different if I try to give him a loan.
1965  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you close your Bank account, when your Bank turn against Crypto? on: November 19, 2019, 01:38:39 PM
I'll find some service who can be able to change bitcoin to money fiat first and after that I'll close my bank account. I use bitcoin just for side income and no more than that. So, I'll be useless if I had bitcoin and I didn't send my bitcoin to money fiat (bank account) and yeah I can't do anything. For the money thing I can't be separated from the utilization of bank (I guess most people here are same), in fact it is the main bridge or the main requirement for investors who want to invest in crypto.But it really impossible now in my country (banned crypto) since my country have included cryptocurrencies into comodity which is mean their function is like an asset.
1966  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [INFO] Cara Mendapatkan Token BAT dari Browser Brave on: November 19, 2019, 01:00:51 PM
Saya memiliki 48 BAT dari website yang saya miliki, bulan november ini ada keterangan pembayaran ke uphold (KYC udah verified) akan dilakukan pada tanggal 15 November, nyatanya sampai hari ini belum masuk. Pembayaran bulan depan sesuai informasi di akun saya akan dilakukan pada 8 Desember. jika pada tanggal tersebut belum juga dibayar, mungkinkah hanya pemanis agar pada make Brave.
Ada beberapa informasi yang membuat saya sedikit ragu, pertama iya dalam beberapa bulan terakhir reward untuk pengguna brave memang sedikit terlambat karena dari pihak developer nya sendiri selalu menjanjikan pengiriman reward akan di distribusikan setiap pada tanggal 8.

Kedua, perihal anonimitas. Disatu sisi brave browser ingin mengusung sebuah browser yang anonim dan juga memberikan reward kepada penggunanya, saya sangat setuju akan hal ini.

Namun sisi lain, ada hal lain yang membuat aneh, sebuah wallet yang hanya bisa digunakan untuk menarik reward tersebut sangat membutuhkan identitas kita sebagai syarat agar kita mendapatkan reward dari brave yaitu uphold. Hal ini yang membuat saya complicated antara uninstall browser ini atau tetap lanjutkan.
1967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Can there be a bull run for XLM? on: November 19, 2019, 11:35:25 AM
Burn event is not the way who will make the price coin meet an increasing price. There is only one who can be made as a benchmark i.e demand to the coin. And this think will happen after the investors have seen the function of the coin so as they will make their own prediction to decide between being holder or just use the chance such as news or in the fundamental side to buy the coin and they get profit from this way. I don't know much about XLM but I have used it as a tool to send money and the transaction process is very fast so this function can be made as a reason become a holder.
1968  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin investment on: November 19, 2019, 11:19:54 AM
The term of 'don't put all your eggs in one basket is just a watchword, in fact it depends on your conviction to the something (on this case is bitcoin). You can ignore that term and believe to the conviction that you have, I think it is pair enough. Indeed, we don't know what will happen in the future, but at least we still have our own prediction which is mean we can make the prediction about the place and see its function in the future, moreover in the case of technology.

For an example, have you believe that the internet is something that will be needed by all human on this world when it was created? But I'll guess you won't believe it because at that time you will believe to the something real which can be felt as soon as possible. So, this what was thought by someone who spent all his money to bitcoin. I think for the first time he will see to the technology first before they know about bitcoin as a whole. After that, they will find about its function and made a supposition about it.
1969  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [INFO] Cara Mendapatkan Token BAT dari Browser Brave on: November 18, 2019, 04:16:32 PM
Untuk yang refferal harus download terus dipakai selama 30 hari, dan dalam satu hari harus dipakai minimal sekali :v susah juga sih :3 ane baru dapat 23 BAT doang :'v
23 Bat dari mana itu gan?apa dari airdropnya kah, saya sendiri masih belom dapet apa2 dari bat pdhal sudah pakek lumayan lama cuman saya pakek jarang2 untuk browsing palingan jga klo lgi butuh aja baru buka brave
Reward untuk pengguna brave akan diberikan per tanggal 8 setiap bulannya. Setiap orang yang mempunyai brave browser (android/pc) mereka sudah otomatis akan mendapatkan $5 dalam bentuk BAT. Tetapi BAT tersebut tidak akan bisa agan wd sebelum wallet agan terverifikasi (coba lihat di OP)

Informasi untuk referral, brave hanya memberikan 1$ per refferal untuk negara indonesia, memang sebelum per tanggal 1 oktober per refferalnya di hargai $5 secara global tapi sekarang ada pembagian klasifikasi dan Indonesia masuk ke group 5 yang hanya menghargai $5 per reffer.
1970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BitTorrent Price Prediction 2020 on: November 18, 2019, 11:25:44 AM
I'm bittorent holder since its launched at Binance exchange. Until now, I never tried to sell them just hold it because I just hoping that the price will reach at least $1. But, apprently I always rely on my lust and filled by greedy thing compared to thinking with my logic brain.

My profit have gone away and maybe it won't comeback again since its price just stuck at $0.00049. I don't know how to deal with this situation, in my imagine I always have a prediction as you stated, but seemingly I have to take up the reality.
1971  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to make money by stablecoin on: November 18, 2019, 10:30:29 AM
If you think that stable coin is an investment place then you're wrong about it. It is like money fiat, when you store in any safe place then in a few years a head the value of them will be same. Its function just store your money safely ( as a of store value) and it is different with cryptocurrency which is have a high volatility price.

But there is a function of it for crypto user, you can use it as trading pair when you are trading. I also recommend to use it when you trade, at least it will safe your money when the crash is coming. Other than that, you can use it as a sending money tool especially for sending money to different countries. You can cut a shipping cost compared when you use WU or etc because its fees is really high.
1972  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Have you any new ideas to replace the KYC? on: November 18, 2019, 10:18:10 AM
We just have two choices, give our/your identity and we can use cryptocurrency freely or keep your KYC/identity secretly but you can't use them as you wanted because you will find many obstacles.

Give me one exchange, especially an exchange which can be able to change your asset (crypto) to your money fiat who doesn't ask your identity, I'll bet there is not any exchange which can do that.

Whilst, the function of an exchange is really influental because you will store your asset at there. So, you have to give your identity to use the exchange then you can feel the benefit from cryptocurrency. And also, I think there is no way to replace KYC since our concern here is our identity.
1973  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Crypto Marketet Is Dumping Drastically !! on: November 18, 2019, 01:47:08 AM
I still save a lot of tokens from the results of following the bounty program. There hasn't been a single token that increased from the beginning I saved them. Now it seems more difficult for a new token to rise to the surface and the price soared in the market. So I think it's no longer effective now to save a token for the long term.
That's why many hunters learned from this experienced they are now quickly dumped after receiving the token/coin.  Not letting the token being stucked and being forgotten. Hunters will get every opportunities to avoid being trapped and not being affected to any market dumped.
There's always volatility and if you understand how things works then you will survive to this industry.
The movement price of altcoin especially new altcoin will more volatile when the exchange has accepted it. You have to know this site https://coinmarketcap.com/gainers-losers/ because most of the altcoin who meet gainer and loser in price are new altcoin.

This thing has pointed out and you can take it as a reason that if you have got a token either from bounty or you were participated at an IEO/ICO you have to think a thousand of times to choose long term investment on it.
1974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin could reach $1,000 in a couple of years from now on: November 16, 2019, 03:20:58 AM
I believe that litecoin is a form of bitcoin perpection. I haven't found if there is an altcoin which has a halving event except litecoin.

From the all time high that had been reached at 2017 ago its price almost reach $400. So, I'll predict that litecoin is able to reach $1000 but I don't know when it comes.
1975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do not invest based on the "telegram community" on: November 16, 2019, 02:56:20 AM
In one side telegram or another social media which being used as a group of crypto user is really needed. They (the people on the group) can easily turn their information each other, so as through this group their understanding/knowledge against cryptocurrency will increase. Then I think, if I compare when we read an article will be hard to understood if we read it by ourselve but if we make a discussion on the group (telegram and etc) it usually will be easy to be unsderstood.

Yeah Indeed, in another side we can't disown that the scammer will be easy to join and try to scamming the poeple there. And I think it will be good the user on the group must be aware and fight against scammer. Also, they must know that the project is scam or legit and he can tell to another user to avoid it. Unless, if we come the telegram channel which was filled by scammer then I'll bet we can't avoid from their offers.
1976  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [INFO] Cara Mendapatkan Uang dari Browser Brave on: November 15, 2019, 03:22:07 PM
yang saya tanyakan itu tentang airdrop brave bukan tentang brave ads,
kalau untuk brave ads mah saya sudah tahu dari lama programnya dan hanya bisa diluar negeri
Coba scroll kebawah deh gan jangan langsung membuat kesimpulan, selain reward ads agan juga bisa menjadi content creator (youtbue/blog)

mungkin akan lebih baik jika di PM ke OP suruh nambahin sumbernya di thread ini, kan sayang juga ke OP jika nanti kena banned gara-gara ini.
Mungkin bisa jadi perhatian khusus buat para member disini agar bisa lebih menghargai karya orang lain.



1977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: My research for spam coins/tokens on: November 15, 2019, 02:07:44 PM
I really interested to this thread and I took a quite attention to find more about those coins on CMC.

A bit agree to the reason that you stated and I guess those are right.

I just look a side to the price movement of those coins especially I see the all time high and all time low.

Most of them just decreased a lot when it was launched, the price is far when those altcoin have been listed on the exchange.

I really wondering, For how long did you complete this analyst?
1978  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [INFO] Cara Mendapatkan Uang dari Browser Brave on: November 15, 2019, 01:53:28 PM
apakah ada original articlenya tentang airdrop ini? soalnya ini baru saya denger pertama kali kalau mereka ngadain airdrop selain dari brave adsnya
Silahkan langsung ke sumbernya langsung aja gan, mudah dipahami ko.

Ini link nya https://brave.com/brave-rewards/

Di forum global juga udah ada yang ngebahas silahkan cek disini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195848.0

Konten OP diatas 100% duplikat dan tidak sedikitpun ada bagian dari post OP yang original, sebenarnya tidak salah jika OP bermaksud membagikan artikel yang sekiranya bermanfaat bagi member tetapi jika dari sumbernya dari luar maka harus dilampirkan link yang mengarah ke artikel tersebut
Saya tunggu hingga 1 atau 2x 24 jam untuk OP memberikan klarifikasi di thread ini. Kalau tidak, dengan senang hati saya akan membuat thread disini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0
1979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: not a rule! but it's about your common sense to avoid scam projects on: November 15, 2019, 01:44:57 PM
Regulasi aren't a golden bullet against scammers. As all those things become more obvious to the general public, scammers evolve to mimic decent projects with almost impeccable efficiency. Still, the most reasonable rule of investment isn't about ICOs or IPOs, it's just about your common sense. I mean no matter what, never spend more money than you can afford to lose.
There is no investment place who doesn't have any risk, most all of investment place it definitely have a risk even you have an interest to invest on gold (which has considered as safe place to store our money) but you'll never be avoided from fraud/scammer on it.

You are right, don't spend money that you aren't willing to lose and I think that is the basic knowledge before we are going to start, unless you spend it on bitcoin. But to invest in altcoin I'll doubt it, I have found some project which have interesting offer, such as they offer to give you almost 15% profit per months, I think that is really scammer's job.

There is just one way to avoid it, and I believe a knowledge of someone against the ins and out to crypto industry will help him to avoid scammer. As you may know, most of the victims who fall to the scammer are newbie or the people who just know cryptocurrency and they spend a lot of money just because they see to the profit that offer by scammer.
1980  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [INFO] Cara Mendapatkan Uang dari Browser Brave on: November 15, 2019, 12:49:53 PM
Pernah baca artikel ini sebelumnya dan saya cari sumbernya dan ternyata benar artikel ini ada di forum sebelah.

Sayangnya agan tidak mencantumkan sumber apapun dan THREAD ini sangat mirip dengan yang aslinya https://kabarcoin.com/cara-mendapatkan-uang-dari-browser/ silahkan klarifikasi terlebih dahulu.

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