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1961  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading with crypto or fiats? the right one? Your experience? on: March 17, 2019, 06:48:47 PM
I have seen my friends trade with fiats at currency market. The amount of profit they receive is more than i do.
In most cases friends tend to exaggerate what their income is, how many girlfriends they had, etc. I wouldn't pay attention to whatever someone else is making.

The most important aspect is that you should be happy with every single penny in profits that you end up making. If we have to believe people here and on other social media platforms, they trade for fun, make x percentage of profit per day, stopped working to focus on trading, etc. It's all bs. Don't let a bunch of fools make you feel bad because they "earn" more than you.

I like crypto trading more. Firstly, it is decentralized.  
Crypto being decentralized is totally worthless when you use centralized exchanges to trade on. Roll Eyes
1962  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Excessive confidence in cryptocurrency trading. on: March 17, 2019, 06:19:18 PM
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Is excessive confidence in cryptocurrency trading better than doubt and fear, or is it a big drawback?

Choosing between the two I would choose excessive confidence because this will make you very optimistic.
You have the confidence so even if the market is not progressing in terms of value, you will still continue to believe and this helps avoid loses.

Doubt and fear will only result to one thing, it's panic selling which you already loss at that point.

Last year was the perfect example of how people being overly optimistic got brutally punished for their ignorance.

The smartest people turned out to be the dumbest people last year, those who panic sold very early on when they started to see the market crack up badly. People tend to make fun of weak hands, which I have done in the past as well, but who's laughing now? Being less fundamentally biased is a better option for your coin stack, because it will allow you to buy back more coins for the same amount of fiat much lower.
1963  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt.Gox founder Mark Karpeles Sentenced to Over Two Years. Is This a Joke? on: March 16, 2019, 11:04:14 PM
I'm not trying to deflect the accusation or the imply a different culprit, just trying to figure this whole thing out. Maybe we will never know the truth.

The only truth that matters is that centralized exchanges can't be trusted, and shouldn't be trusted.

It's not worth the risk anymore. We're at a stage where buying back Bitcoin isn't a matter of spending a few thousand anymore, but hundreds of thousands, or millions in case it concerns very large traders/investors. It's one of the main reasons OTC volumes continue to increase. Dex's have seen an uptick in volume too.
1964  Economy / Speculation / Re: The end of the sideways market is only a few months a head. TA on: March 16, 2019, 10:34:30 PM
There are a lot of persons who have already given up on crypto because of the lost they faced in 2017/2018 but I have been advising them this year to forget about that lost and focus on the profit they could actually make when we begin to see a bull run in price this year.

What makes you so confident that a bull run is due this year? More hopium is definitely not what these people need.

I honestly think that it's more likely that 2019 will be quite boring overall, and if we do happen to see an increase of some sort, it won't be anything like a bull run. On top of that, due to clowns such as Tom Lee people have given up on perma bull type of predictions, and that's actually a good thing. It's super deceiving to promise people golden mountains while the market is a pile of rubbish in the short to mid term.
1965  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's the lowest we'll see from here on out (3/15 and beyond) on: March 16, 2019, 09:45:03 PM
fall below  $3000 will be a big disaster

It depends on how it happens, and on what side of the road you are.

It could be just a flash wick that gets bought up quickly, which is the most likely scenario in case the market hasn't actually closed below major support levels and the 200 wma on a weekly time frame. In that case it would subject the market to extreme volatility but at the same time amazing opportunities for those looking to acquire more coins for the same amount of fiat.

Always make sure to have a bunch of fiat ready to put in action would the price tank hard. One last high volume flash crash wick could signal an actual bottom that people on a large scale would agree on that it is a bottom. People focus on double bottoms, v bottoms, etc. It could speed up recovery if so. Currently people are still in doubt due to how ugly the charts look.
1966  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin has no practical use and could be damaging to the economy! on: March 16, 2019, 09:19:34 PM
Still I won't change my idea about Bitcoin and will still continue to use it even though the guys words hurts me a little.

It shouldn't hurt. In fact, some times I feel sorry for people who are so close minded, because they are the ones losing out, not we. You should feel strengthened that Bitcoin is subjected to so much skepticism. In most cases people are salty about not having bought in sooner. Instead of utilizing the current bear market, they continue to talk about how it can't work.

Little that they know, they will feel even saltier in the next couple of years when we reach new highs. People's main problem is that they think the initial stage of revolution is over, but it's far from over. We barely made it past our first obstacle and the second one is quite literally too distant with how this speculative phase won't just come to an end. Markets need time to mature, so does Bitcoin.

It doesn't happen all that often to see a new shift in technology or money that could change the world. Instead of enjoying it, people fight against it. Roll Eyes
1967  Economy / Economics / Re: Facebook’s Catastrophic Blackout Could Cost $90 Million in Lost Revenue on: March 16, 2019, 08:50:17 PM
They can afford to lose a few million, this is pocket change to them. However, their reputation is in tatters in that it is not a 100% stable platform, even with all their billions

Reputation damage = financial damage in the long term. It makes their competitors stronger because if even a small number of people switch to other platforms, it's already a big win for the smaller competitors in that market segment. In other words, this might be a billion dollar mistake in the long run.

Facebook has gotten a whole lot of negative press in the last 12 or so months. I have noticed how people around me closed their account. I must admit though, Facebook strategically took over Instagram which is somewhat of the most popular social media platform nowadays. If people look to switch from Facebook to Instagram, they're still dealing with Facebook. Cheesy
1968  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-14] Famous Swiss Investor Marc Faber Finally Buys Bitcoin on: March 16, 2019, 08:05:57 PM
Smart people can see that bitcoin is already down 85% and not willing to drop any further. What's the worst that can happen? A 90% bottom and a sharp pullback? This is not much of a risk if you're looking at the big picture.
We're not at the bottom anymore. If we would in fact correct 90%, that means a drop to $2000 which is almost a 50% decline from where we are right now.

I'd say a return to 10000 dollars is very probable, almost certain in the next 2 years, while at the other end of the spectrum we have a possible break below 3k. So, we have a possibility of losing less than 2k vs a chance to gain 6k.
Others don't look at Bitcoin the way we look at it. If we follow the general public's view, Bitcoin right now looks like an asset that shouldn't be touched. It's a house of cards that is on the brink of collapsing. I doubt many people that aren't interested in the tech behind Bitcoin are going to hold till the price reaches $10,000. It's more likely for them to cash out at 50-100% to secure their profits.

Based on that, the risk versus reward ratio isn't all that interesting. It makes more sense for them to wait for the trend to reverse, and buy into an increasing market. If the trend is up, they can't really go wrong in the mid term.
1969  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-13] Accepting bitcoin without a payment gateway on: March 16, 2019, 07:37:20 PM
Merchants who want to instantly convert BTC to fiat are leechers and they shouldn't be catered.
How are they leechers? They are trying to gain more exposure by accepting a hot new internet currency thingy. It makes sense to convert it to fiat for them, because it's too volatile, and they can't use it to restock because that still requires fiat money. In the end, we should be happy that we can have all sorts of merchants accepting it. I am grateful for that.

I mean if you are that desperate for that 5% I would say it's about time you re-evaluate your business. One could argue a corporation like Microsoft might take that 5% seriously and it could affect their profit margins but these hundreds of merchants aren't Microsoft they are small businesses and holding BTC would benefit them in the bigger picture.
5% is huge, especially when it comes to things like domains, giftcards, electronics, foods, etc. In this case the business model isn't the profit margin per product, but profit margin per x amount of sales volume. Waiting to generate x amount of sales volume with Bitcoin isn't worth the risk. Businesses need constant cash flow, they aren't here to speculate.
1970  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptopia has been in "maintenance" for the last 14 hours! on: March 16, 2019, 07:03:43 PM
Cryptopia - my favorite exchange:

Despite our own issues, as a Christchurch company, our thoughts are with everyone affected by the recent shootings.

I'll surely be using them again once they get back; they're handling the whole situation in a very good manner!

I respect their Tweet to show support to the victims over there, but this doesn't make them a better exchange.

Even if Cryptopia has the best intentions in the world to get things working again, I'm doubtful about their general capabilities of runnnig an exchange. It's not out of the ordinary that something like this will happen again as hackers are targeting these exchanges more than other exchanges for a reason.

On the other hand, for the sake of people getting their funds back, I hope that this exchange ends up relaunching successfully.
1971  Economy / Exchanges / Re: CoininvestBank on: March 16, 2019, 06:48:15 PM
Joined for the freebie. Will not be investing. Will wait the 60 days and see if I can withdraw.

This cracked me up hard.  Cheesy

In all seriousness, it's quite pathetic if someone is going to wait 60 days to claim something that with a high probability isn't claimable at all. I can already see them pop up a notification after 60 days that you either have to make a small deposit, that their terms are changed and it's no longer available, or that they end up taking a run.

People here don't understand how to value their time.  Roll Eyes
1972  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Decision time - Move to 3446 then 3162 or 4419 then 4934 on: March 15, 2019, 10:38:57 PM
Everyone agrees that prices under 4,000 are rare chances

I don't agree with that, so it's not everyone. Smiley

If you're completely honest to yourself, and look at the market from a neutral point of view and not from an 'I want my bags to pump hopium view', you'll acknowledge that our long stay below the $4000 level is very much indicative of how people don't think buying at these levels is a rare opportunity.

In fact, most people expect even lower levels. On the other hand, people expecting lower levels tend to be wrong more frequently than right, so based on that, you could even consider this to be a bullish signal. Last year people were overly bullish, down we went. This year people are overly bearish, and now it's waiting for the next big move.

We're due for a massive break in the coming 15-20 days, so we'll see what we get. I hope it's green, but I'm prepared for red too.
1973  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Could Sink to $1,850 Despite Bullish Crypto Momentum on: March 15, 2019, 10:04:57 PM
Going under $3000 at this point looks highly improbable. Its been a full 3 months since the low of $3100s and right now Bitcoin has been stable in the 3700s and 3800s. It will likely stay in the $3000s for a few more months I would bet, but to suggest a 50% crash at this point is a bit preposterous. I mean anything could happen, but I'd put that at like a 1% chance of happening. Right now I'd put Bitcoin even hitting its $3100 low again at like only 20% chance - unlikely but possible.

It all depends on the 200 wma in my opinion. As long as we respect it, the most we can expect are wicks trying to dig deeper, but as long as there isn't a weekly close below that moving average, there is not much to worry about. A weekly close below the 200 wma would definitely make me short Bitcoin, because the bloodbath will continue in that case.

It's highly unlikely, but if the market is really out of steam, and we get that weekly close, you don't want to be that sucker hoping for better times while only worse is what you'll be exposed to.
1974  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-13]Is FaceCoin The Future of Payments or Is It Just Another Exaggerated on: March 15, 2019, 09:41:26 PM
It is inevitable that this would happen, he was waiting to see if bitcoin would die, but as it has come back to life again a bull run seems like a certainty. Good times ahead for FB

Why would they wait for Bitcoin to die? They aim to serve a whole different market with their stable token. I would even like to say that the longer you wait, the more of competitors there is in this industry, but considering that there isn't a legitimate backer of stable tokens yet, Facebook could be up for some success as first mover.

If they end up gaining a crazy amount of momentum, it's going to be interesting to see how the government will react. I'm certain that the counter reaction won't be pretty at all.
1975  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-14] Bitfury Integration to Bring Bitcoin Lightning Payments to More... on: March 15, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
Looks like this payment processor is still new, or not really a major player in the payment industry. Nevertheless, more adoption news I suppose?

It's a startup, so it doesn't surprise me there.

The thing about these relatively new players is that they offer Lightning payments, and this is something BitPay can't compete with, so they have a massive advantage here. If you also add that it allows merchants accepting Lightning to generate some free press, it becomes even more interesting for them to actually partner with these new players.

I'm sure that BitPay won't switch to Lightning, so this will eventually end up costing their first mover advantage.
1976  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BaseFEX $80,000 BTC futures trading contest begins on: March 15, 2019, 07:21:48 PM
It seems to be a trend for exchanges to reward people with $5-$10 amounts, but this seems rather extreme to be honest.

Another thing is that the site looks a lot like Bitmex, which is quite a negative in my opinion. It's not that it looks bad or something, but it gives me the impression that the operators behind the site didn't put much effort in having their exchange stand out with a refreshing design. Or perhaps I'm too demanding. Roll Eyes
1977  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Understanding The Different Types Of Cryptocurrency Exchanges on: March 15, 2019, 06:48:12 PM
Decentralized exchanges can be anon but you can also have centralized exchanges that is as anon as it gets without sharing your KYC or even your first name, just a mail would be enough for many of them.

Exchanges that don't subject you to KYC verification aren't anonymous. They can still link the information that they do have to certain events that you are connected to. On top of that, they can subject you to KYC verification out of nothing, and we have seen that this is happening more frequently than people are comfortable with.

Your information will be stored on random servers for ever, and when these "anon" exchanges you're referring to go down, they'll very likely sell your information to make a last quick buck.
1978  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why does Binance seem to fluctuate more than Coinbase? on: March 14, 2019, 03:29:37 PM
I doubt Coinbase is inflating their volume numbers. They seem really focused on legal compliance, licensing, and working with regulators for stronger oversight and they're trying to push into institutional markets. The last thing they want right now is a scandal around volume manipulation. They seem pretty content staying around #50 on CMC and focusing on real (rather than perceived) market penetration.

Technically speaking, Coinbase is still one of the top exchanges if you discard everything related to USDT.

Top volumes as we speak in actual USD;

CME; $74 million. (contracts, but still, everything is settled with actual USD)
Coinbase Pro; $30 million.
Bitstamp; $19.5 million.
Kraken; $15.5 million.

If Coinbase or any of these exchanges would inflate their volumes, it would be inflated to a level they can compete with the Asian wild west show.
1979  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is Cheap Until April, We’ll Never See Price at $3,000 Again: Trader on: March 14, 2019, 03:03:32 PM
If bitcoin fails to cleanly break into the $4,000 region and surpass key resistance levels at $4,200 and $4,300, analysts have said that a retest of lows at $3,300 and $3,122 is a possibility.

Analysts and possibilities.  Roll Eyes

Following the trend lines, which do seem to support Bitcoin, it's only a matter of looking at the charts to figure out what's going to happen. This holds significance until it doesn't, which means that we have to close below the supportive trend lines, and then still, the 200WMA is creeping up higher and higher, which makes it less likely to retest $3150 unless it's a flash wick that gets bought up to keep the daily and weekly chart still look pretty.

Everything we see is indicative of more sideways actions. I doub't we're done with $3xxx prices, but even if so, if it turns out that we bottomed for sure, it's not a problem to buy 10-20% higher if it keeps going up from there.
1980  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin scam site - do not use! on: March 14, 2019, 02:03:09 PM
It is strange that they ask for only 3 euro and not 30. I saw a lot of idiots who wanted to get Bitcoin for free this way, but lost their funds. I have seen similar "generators" that increased your bitcoin. If send 1 BTC get 5 BTC etc. Judging by their wallets, they make good money on fools

The fact that it's only €3 (or whatever other low amount) makes people actually want to give it a shot. If they lose €3 they lose and it's not a big deal. This is what scammers know and bank on. If thousands of people get scammed like this, all the €3 deposits add up to a sweet amount. If this scam is operated by someone in a third world country, then it's even more worthwhile.

Just think about it, no one is going to send hundreds of dollars worth of Bitcoin to a random site. A few bucks of it might be worth the gamble for people. Undecided
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