Think its maybe about time for you to think about corn and strawberry's  LOL just did those last night  Well the wine photo was a bust. I will try a new meal this evening. |
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This is a great time to change out your units for more efficient/powerful ones. I'm slowly upgrading my 741's to the 8's and picking up some T1's. These difficulty increases still suck tho, and it hurts to spend my BTC at such a low exchange rate.
buy btc with cash then spend it we are down to 6350 I am going to buy 1000 usd in btc today |
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. so I have a ryzen 1800x on a board that can do three cards and I have 64gb ram and I have a 2tb ssd so I guess it would work well to render. I have this board https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757I have this cpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-499I have this ssd https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8TK78R3886I have this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156086I have 3 of these gpu's https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487346So this should be good to render. it is fully paid off. So roi is not an issue. yeah a custom board with 4 ram slots and 4 gpu slots would be good , i hate risers I'm considering taking the motherboard in my personal desktop/workstation, an Asrock Fatal1ty X370 - https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp - and making it a test bed mining or rendering rig. I think should be good for 3x GPUs with an Acorn mini accelerator and it's current CPU a Ryzen 1700X should be more then up to the task. Does anyone have any idea if rendering requires faster RAM, or will the cheapest DDR4 2400 work just as well? Cheapest ddr4 will work. There aren't much cheap 4 gpu slot mobos that still provides the pcie lanes.. Cheapest combo Ive seen is this asrock C612 mobo: http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=EPC612D8#SpecificationsCoupled with a 4C8T Xeon 1620V4 40 lane cpu, it will provide all 4 gpus with 8 lane each, and still has a m2 pcie slot for acorn. This combo will be around $600 USD while a threadripper 1900x mobo + cpu is just $700 USD. This epyc board will work with 7 gpu, but you need 16x risers: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12985/asrock-rack-goes-amd-epycd8-workstation-motherboardHas 2x m2 pcie slots for 2 acorns. Probably cost $600 USD + that asrock board using the xeon allows for 8 sticks of ram |
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they will flood the market and crash the coin price .
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The power consumption is right on pint with their original per unit ratings. Phil has run some tests on these I think, with settings provided by someone else and they prove to be fairly adjustable. Mind you if you are buying 1 of these I don't think you are worrying about the base power consumption. I would be surprised by the 90 day warranty being on the actual Miners, it wouldn't be worth it for anyone to give up 87.5% of their warranty just to have a plug and play model. They have been known to boilerplate some entries on the website before. I would think it may be more likely to pertain to breakers,plugs or non mining components. If you look at the 841 page on the Canaan website it also shows a 90 day warranty period. https://canaan.io/product/avalon-841-april/My thoughts are they may extend that warranty on a case by case sale. If I wanted to buy I would ask for a longer warranty or just order single units. |
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wrong section should be in marketplace threads
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Good info.. what is your determinant threshold where you decide low speed vs medium? What measurement / hardware factor are you tracking for this decision?
Two of the three miners dropped out set to medium. So I went to slow. The the other three all run fine at medium. They never dropped out. I will let you know when we have a hotter day then 95f. Now I have very good air flow. Pulling air out of the mining area. |
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Nice glad this worked for you.
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. so I have a ryzen 1800x on a board that can do three cards and I have 64gb ram and I have a 2tb ssd so I guess it would work well to render. I have this board https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757I have this cpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-499I have this ssd https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8TK78R3886I have this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156086I have 3 of these gpu's https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487346So this should be good to render. it is fully paid off. So roi is not an issue. yeah a custom board with 4 ram slots and 4 gpu slots would be good , i hate risers I'm considering taking the motherboard in my personal desktop/workstation, an Asrock Fatal1ty X370 - https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp - and making it a test bed mining or rendering rig. I think should be good for 3x GPUs with an Acorn mini accelerator and it's current CPU a Ryzen 1700X should be more then up to the task. Does anyone have any idea if rendering requires faster RAM, or will the cheapest DDR4 2400 work just as well? my guess is you can clock the ram higher. I have 4 16gb sticks but they are 2400 I plan to clock them up if I have to. I also plan to try a similar setup. let me know when you set it up we can compare notes and see if the asrock taichi is better or the asrock fatality |
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Bitcoin Difficulty: 5,077,499,034,879
Estimated Next Difficulty: 5,643,030,517,915 (+11.14%)
Adjust time: After 1632 Blocks, About 10.3 days
Hashrate(?): 39,993,785,389 GH/s
Block Generation Time(?):
1 block: 9.1 minutes
3 blocks: 27.1 minutes
6 blocks: 54.3 minutes
Price still on 6700, dif change in June already +17% and a next estimated of +11%.
S9i cheap gear or something that we dont know?
low cost power people are buying tons of low cost s9i's I escrowed 1000 different bitmain coupons in the last 3 months. more then 800 sold to one guy. so 800 x 14th = 11.2ph the coupons were 200 230 350 mix lets say they were 250 average the s9i is about 700 with a psu -250 = 450 at 4 cents 11.2 ph earns 2600 a day so he is paying off 5 or 6 s9i's a day if he has 4 cent power at 5 cents 11.2 ph earns 2328 a day he would be paying off 5 s9i's a day. we are watching big money low cost power guys stock up. |
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I run them on low speed or medium speed not high speed.
I use outdoor air and vent outdoors.
some will run medium speed at 95f outdoor temp
some need to be low speed at 95f outdoor temp.
in no case has temp gone over 95f this year.
I run 5 of them.
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Hey there Good thread! Have you guys seen a new thing in cryptoworld, called Paytomat? I think that it will bring cryptocurrency usage to everyday life. It is also great for merchants as it is a ready-to-use and a secure solution to accept crypto, allowing to attract new clients and increase customer loyalty. Anyway, you need to test it out. I am inclined to delete you. TO REGULAR PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD I am doing some demo today and I am too busy to figure out if this newbie is spam or scam. If anyone feels like letting me know please do. So I can decide to delete it. |
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Okay the ribs worked so here is the wine I drank with them Lets see if this works for today.   |
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Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they? ... EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper. Their roadmap: https://rendertoken.com/#roadmapWith any luck we will be rendering by end of the year. I'm not a huge fan of ASICs too, but I will still grab some ASICs in promising algorithms to diversify, mainly those with good revenue to electricity cost ratio. I'm keeping an eye on them too. I really hope that blockchain rendering takes off since I think it's an excellent use of "traditional" GPUs and may prove to be a safeguard against Asics (I think). probably have to rebuild most miner rigs to render. with a lot of rigs having 1 pcie lane per card, 4 gigs ram, undernourished cpus and little storage (120 gig ssd or 32 gig flash drives.. well i cant see how its going to be able to get all the textures and such to the cards in enough time to be useful. maybe rigs with 4 cards at pcie x4 or 3 cards at pcie x8 along with a good quad+ core cpu with much more ram, 16+ gigs maybe. and storage for jobs so 512 gigs or more. <-- all specs guesswork on my part wonder how much bandwidth it needs? Here's an extremely detailed 3hr long discussion on setting up an octane render rig. At 1hr 37 mins they talked about pcie lanes: https://youtu.be/XrOBvz454fU?t=1h37m40sTLDR: A 8x pcie 3.0 connection per gpu is highly recommended Long version: Pcie 1x lane works too, and the rendering speed is unrelated to lane bandwidth. However during data transfer the rig will be idle, which happens when you are receiving new job or swapping out the textures in gpu vram. The penalty will be especially heavy for out of core rendering (Scene is 64gb, gpu only has 11gb, there will be loads of transfer from system ram to vram). When beta testnet launch, we will get a clearer picture on the ideal rig setup. Risers MIGHT still be the best price performance because a Threadripper mobo + 1900x will run $700+ USD and only fits 4 gpu. A gigabyte B250 fintech with 12 gpu and 64gb ram might be better bang for buck. On a side note the Gigabyte b250 fintech is the only mining mobo with 4x ram slots, and 64gb imo is a must for rendertoken. I hope someone comes up with a Onda B250 form factor threadripper board, with 7x pcie 8x slots and 2x m2 pcie slots. To run 7x 1180/2080 + 2x acorn fpga accelerator. so I have a ryzen 1800x on a board that can do three cards and I have 64gb ram and I have a 2tb ssd so I guess it would work well to render. I have this board https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757I have this cpu https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=19-113-499I have this ssd https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8TK78R3886I have this ram https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820156086I have 3 of these gpu's https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487346So this should be good to render. it is fully paid off. So roi is not an issue. |
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Lets see what this photo does 2 full racks of lamb need to be cut and browned after a long slow roast  fully cut ready to eat  |
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The pattern seems to repeat boom bust boom bust boom bust.
Cheap power and lack of stupidity and you should be all right .
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Hey I like that mounting system that can tilt depending on the season. Is that something buysolar makes or does he fab those himself?
sent a pm to you and to buysolar. |
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Pm sent, please check
this is sold to you will ship it on thursday. SOLD! |
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It looks like there is a new firmware out for the D9. Anyone know what the changes are?
What's up wolf. Where did you see that? Hopefully, it's better hash rate without much-added power consumption. What pool are you mining at and what's your daily reward for 1 machine? I'm on coinmine getting 0.304 at 2.37Ths from the last fw update. Anyone getting better rewards elsewhere? On Innosilicons website they have the new firmware out but its dated 06/02 when the last one they came out was on 05/24. I checked last week and didn't see the latest firmware on the site and the miners don't seem to find it with the built in firmware check/update tool. I'm mining on Luxor pool and getting about .3 per machine and hashing at 2.4Ths. I tried coinmine but I was getting about 5% less. Crazy how quickly rewards went to shit here. Inno needs to come out with another firmware to make ROI possible or pump the hell out of DCR. Neither of those will help because a new firmware will just increase the network hash which everyone on the network will just upgrade and nothing changes. Even if they pump the hell out of Decred they will then list another batch of miners for sale further lowering the reward for miners. Inno just should have released batches every 1.5 months apart because now no one will make their money back. The market place is flooded with asics . Both bitmain and inno are selling asics like mad. |
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