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19781  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: June 20, 2018, 01:29:11 PM
Unless something crazy happens, the next ASIC miner I buy will probably be from sidehack. Although with the price of BTC down, he is sitting on a sizable number of 2Pac miners that is slowing him down a bit. I'm hoping that he can get the 16nm usb stick miners done before too long, and then get to the 16nm pod miner he's been wanting to do for a while.

When I look at the prices of new ASIC miners and the value of any of the coins they mine, ROI is usually one or more years away with the current network hashrates and difficulty, and we all know how that works out.

Are you serious about buying USB based stick miners at this point in time? Haven't those been long obsolete even with free electricity? As far as i know they earn a few cents per month which really isn't worth it so you will have to be playing solo-mining lottery?

I'm interested to learn more about your "plan" for USB stick miners.

  the 16nm pod miner is what he really wants.

19782  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 1080ti water block hybrid card by corsair/msi on: June 20, 2018, 01:25:38 PM
bump
19783  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Canaan releases the "Moose" - Stackable unit containing 12 x 841 ready to mine. on: June 20, 2018, 01:22:42 PM
If you have that kind of power...this is a no brainer solution.  

yeah with proper airflow and power these are nice items.
19784  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: The Squeeze is comin! [official thread for panicking] on: June 20, 2018, 01:18:53 PM
Since there are so many of these spread all over the place and pretty much 5 more every week. Why not make just 1 thread to house them all?


Soon the boys at 0.1$/kwh is about to get rekt.


Y'all ready fo dees?

Not the first time we have been at this point.
19785  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Merge Mining on: June 20, 2018, 03:25:13 AM
Devcoin is listed on two exchanges now after some time without an exchange.

DVC is very easy to buy right now as the price is extremely low.

However, it will not remain low since there is increased activity and some new devcoin projects starting again.

So if mmpool is still reading this : start merge mining again!  It will bring more miners to mmpool.







he has not posted in a long time.

I wish he would post to let us know he is around.

I wish he would give a second port for renting set at a high difficulty 1000000 would work.
 I would do a few large rentals like I used to do.
19786  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar array starting to look good. on: June 20, 2018, 03:19:28 AM
What LiFePO4 batteries do you recommend for storage, or what are you currently eyeing as an upgrade?
Very curious as LiFePO4 seems to really benefit smaller setups with near zero discharge, small size, almost no maintenance and massive round trip efficiency.  I don't aim to reach a single S9 in usage, but already can run a tuned Ryzen CPU 24/7 and it is addicting.
I found some marine batteries with 26Ah at 12V for $170 out the door, four of them parallel can keep things running pretty smooth on a small PC.

this is a larger system with over 400 panels it is grid tied and does not use batteries at all.

https://i.imgur.com/5em72rF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dZLTmCj.jpg

older video from dec 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKlXarvBv5M
19787  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: June 20, 2018, 03:10:09 AM
I'm in Alaska and I have been very interested in adding some solar capability.  I see Philipma posted something like 1500 watt setups for around $1K?  

Can anyone point me to a link or something where I could read more about this kind of setup, scalability, setup scenarios, etc?  I would be very grateful.

Feel free to PM me too.  

Thank you

we are in development only

the large array which is grid tied and no batteries

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1369207.new;boardseen#new


the smaller system which mines in the day only

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4415357.0

not started testing

we are off to a bad start with the specialty inverters we purchased.

we may need to use a different supplier.

19788  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: June 19, 2018, 10:29:35 PM
To me FPGA's = loser in the long run.  Short term  they can be good.

I know a lot about chasing mining gear since I have mined nonstop since 2012.

You can not make constant profit with mining gear unless you have a power angle = fact. In fact it is the basis of Pow coins  turn power into coins.

I betcha some FPGAs that were in use to mine BTC back in the day are still mining (alts) today. The more algos there are out there, the more edge the FPGA's have... if you know how to (re-)program them. Which the majority of people out there does not.

it is why they are a loser.

of course a good coder can use them.

but a smart coder will use them and not promote them.

Just think of all the coin a smart coder earned on zec or monero.

Once they are mainstreamed  most of us are only getting crumbs.
19789  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [BLOCK PARTY] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: June 19, 2018, 10:24:54 PM
Code:
[2018-06-19 21:34:12.187] Possible block solve diff 154102402115128.281250 !
[2018-06-19 21:34:12.287] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2018-06-19 21:34:12.736] Solved block 528272 by 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V.0
[2018-06-19 21:34:12.736] User 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V:{"hashrate1m": "177P", "hashrate5m": "172P", "hashrate1hr": "167P", "hashrate1d": "157P", "hashrate7d": "104P"}
[2018-06-19 21:34:12.736] Worker 36JMs8rogpizjkkp6eeKMmm3SLbSNo5H9V.0:{"hashrate1m": "137P", "hashrate5m": "133P", "hashrate1hr": "129P", "hashrate1d": "118P", "hashrate7d": "82.2P"}
[2018-06-19 21:42:48.523] Hash for block height 528272 confirms block was CONFIRMED

https://btc.com/00000000000000000001d396a0e884983548206d22d70d15f2bc225a62b7633f

http://ckpool.org/blocks/528272.confirmed

13.3 is a good size block
19790  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Solar array starting to look good. on: June 19, 2018, 01:21:04 PM
@ yankees

2 six card 1080ti rigs run  zcash  = 2400 watts
5 Myrig halong's at  ckpool          = 6500 watts
3 Avalon 841's  at ckpool            = 3900  watts
2 and ⅔ s9's   at nicehash           = 3300 watts
1 A3 at sia pool                          = 1200 watts

various other pcs with some gpus = 2000 watts


total mining = 19,300 watts

it also runs buysolar's home  ie A/C oven lighting etc
19791  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: June 19, 2018, 12:48:52 PM
while the power deal I have certainly earns some profit for me.

So today for me this is a power game not a gear game.

there is no bleeding edge gear for me to buy from someone I trust and believe in
So that all works for you (which is cool). But where I am, with my setup, there's no way on earth I can make any power deal that will pay off in less than 20 years (and chuck knows where I'll be in 20 years' time).

The only gear that *could* make sense to buy currently are FPGAs and - as you basically said - that's still a gamble.

I've changed my power company as the previous one was about to increase electricity costs by something like 40%. The new company now just announced they'd have to increase the kW.h rate as well...  Tongue So there's no escape. Only managing as well as I can.

right  100% agreement on making do .

 I am at a 500 usd certain profit for June 2018

Vs an 11,000 profit in December 2017.

Kast year was a banner year for me and many others.

there is a constant flux in the game 

power is king---gear is king---power is king...gear is king  so on and so forth.

Since I have 11 ldle l3+  and 2 s9i shipping to me today my need for gear = 0

Will I buy the acorn  yeah  I will get 1 or 2 or 3.


Now when I look at solar like the Pay One Price or  pop  idea  buysolar and I are doing  I think of it as all mining gear.

If I make a 1500 watt setup and toss in an s9i  total cost of 1700  for solar + s9i .

 the roi works like this  an s9i  cost earn 4 a day  there is no more cost for the 1700 assuming nothing breaks.

4 bucks a day 425 days and gear = paid off.

if the s9i dies put in another  and the 1700 goes to 2400/4 = 600 days.

since the power part is paid upfront I consider it as part of the sunk cost.

 In theory the panels will last 20 years.
 I may need 1 extra inverter I may need I extra s9i.
It is a risk  as to durability of gear. The s9i and the invertor may need replacement.

To me FPGA's = loser in the long run.  Short term  they can be good.

I know a lot about chasing mining gear since I have mined nonstop since 2012.

You can not make constant profit with mining gear unless you have a power angle = fact. In fact it is the basis of Pow coins  turn power into coins.
19792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place. on: June 19, 2018, 03:41:05 AM
Moderately hopeful rendertoken or other forms of gpu marketplace gains traction this year.
Where are rendertoken currently at? Beta-testing still? Not currently giving out live rendering jobs yet are they?

Personally I'm still running all my rigs (RX 570's, Vegas and 1080's), although the latter are basically at breakeven point. nVidia clearly behind in terms of profitability for the last months.

I've ordered some fpga solutions: 1x BCU1525 from fpga.land, 1x Dwarfminer (yeah yeah I know, but it's only 400 bucks right - no risk no fun) and signed up for an Acorn too. Complexity of running them is above my skill set but I'm confident the community will help in getting them to run.

If the coin prices don't go back up I will turn off the 1080's. That'd be a sad day...

EDIT: not considering ASICs at all. Not out of snobism, but because they really make no sense currently unless you're in need of a big door-stopper.

13 cent power s-9 = $0.06 a day
12 cent power s-9 = $0.40 a day
10 cent power s-9 = $0.98 a day
 5 cent power  s-9 =  $2.72 a day
0 cent power   s-9 = $4.46 a day

13 cent power L3+ =  $0.00 a day
12 cent power L3+ = $0.14 a day
10 cent power L3+ = $0.48 a day
 5 cent power  L3+ = $1.33 a day
 0 cent power L3+ =  $2.18 a day

so the game is not gear at the moment it is power.
I disagree. It is gear as well. Even at zero cent power (which is a fallacy - you have to pay for your solar panels) the ASICs produce painfully little revenue per invested dollar.

Of course when revenue is low you have to cut your variable costs. But it doesn't change the aspect that ASIC hardware currently just doesn't justify the investment.


an L3+ earns 2.28 a day at free power uses 700 watts and can be purchased for about 450 with a psu.  that is a 200 day roi

an s-9 earns 4.46 a day at free power uses 1400 watts and can be purchased for 700 with a psu  that is a 175 day roi

a 1080ti  earns 2 day at free power uses 200 watts and can be purchased for 650 usd you need the rest of the rig  but that is a 325 day roi.

in all the cases above   free power is being used

my solar deals are different.   at the moment I earn

˝ of this at zero cost for gear and power  https://www.nicehash.com/miner/146UJM5kgzLVUV23CXCf33KQKHckoX1gx3

˝ of this at zero cost for gear and power https://www.nicehash.com/miner/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

so they earn 18 /2 = 9 a day  or 270 per month    we can sit and discuss how to figure the power cost  but my deal is ˝ the coins

and when all gear sucks  these deals get me through.


http://ckpool.org/users/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

I also get ˝ the coins from here.  it is more complex to estimate what it would be but it should be 500/2 = 250

so I earn 270 + 250 = 520 on the office deal and the solar deal  all gear sucks  no gear is earning 100 bucks for 10 dollars in 10 cent power.

all gear is easy to buy.

fpga = fully and completely not proven
asics for alts are simply being sold so fast they burn the coin out.

If I do nothing  the 3 t1's and 12 1080ti's will earn 500 for me with zero out of pocket. for the month of june.

and why is that simple I have good power deals.

chasing new fpga's and new asics is something I have zero need to do.

and in fact are a way to lose money  maybe or make money maybe.
[
while the power deal I have certainly earns some profit for me.

So the game is power now not gear.

cheap gear is everywhere.

my limits are not gear I can get 100k worth of gear in 2 or 3 days.
I can not get a 50/50 power deal  like  the 2 I have.

now both guys  did better then me when  coins whaled
but when coins suck I survive .

I only wish I have 20kwatts or extra power with the same deals I have.
I have 11 idle l3+ while I try to start new power deals.

To be more clear about the solar array of buysolar it is just about paid off due to the big year last year.

Maintain  costs are 1 cent a kwatt.  so it will be as close to free power as possible some time in early 2019 for buysolar
but on my end it is always a 50-50 coin split which means buysolar did really well in

NOV DEC JAN FEB

with things tight I do better.

The worst thing I can do is buy gear. I don't have cheap power the new solar is not added so

11 L3+ sit ----------------------- I run 2 in my house solo cause why the fuck not I feel lucky and the 520 I earn pay for it with coin left over.
2 s9 come soon and will sit


now if I had access to more solar power
I could run 11 l3's  earn 25 a day
and 2 s9's earn  9 a day

that is 34 a day or 1020 a month  do my 50-50 deal   510 a month in coin no money out of pocket

and I would be doing 520 + 510 = 1030 a month in coin with no outlay with gear that is paid off

so I am not short gear I am short power deals  11 x 700 = 7700 + 2 x 1400 = 2800   that is 10500 kwatts  in a 50 50 deal

So today for me this is a power game not a gear game.

there is no bleeding edge gear for me to buy from someone I trust and believe in

19793  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [160PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: June 18, 2018, 09:39:01 PM
...Still our power is expensive which is odd since Bonneville Hydro dam is here...
Given that the dam is competitive in 8 states, proximity is mostly irrelevant. Not to mention the fact that the $300 million in expenditures is going to go up in the next 7 years for "expansion" and "replacement".

Tell you wife to stay off crap sites that don't take scale into account, dump all you can into mining, and get ahead of next year's electric price increase.  Wink

What site do you recommend profitability? I would love to pour $20k at least into mining BTC and maybe another 10k into GPU's but it's hard to communicate the value of volume and with ROI's at least on most asics is far off. I would love to buy now while the pricing is cheap.

Also, do I need more rank to link a URL in sig or am I just a BCCode newb .. ..

try [url  ]...your link...[/url]


and [url]  not the way it is above as it won't show if I do it correctly  it will link instead

I did that and it reformats it to "[ url=http://www.minefarmbuy.com]www.minefarmbuy.com[/url ]" (space front and end of course).

What's the site you use for forcasting profits? or have you set up something of your own?


bitcoinwisdom works it has lots of issues but I know all the work arounds and do them.

you need realize 2 or 3 jumps is pretty accurate  once you go past that nothing is that accurate.
19794  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Dragonmint T1 "ERROR - failed to recv spi data" on: June 18, 2018, 09:35:44 PM
check cable connection from hash board to controller

you could swap a cable from a good board to see if the problem flows the cable or stays with the dead board.
19795  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 👽 [ANN][BIS]Bismuth - New Language, Free DAPPs, Cryptopia, HEAT on: June 18, 2018, 06:33:36 PM
Last few days there is a reduced reward I get from the bis-pool.net??!!

difficulty has jumped  more mining

I think
19796  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [160PH] ckpool.org ZERO FEE SPLNS no registration mining pool US/DE/CN on: June 18, 2018, 06:27:10 PM
...Still our power is expensive which is odd since Bonneville Hydro dam is here...
Given that the dam is competitive in 8 states, proximity is mostly irrelevant. Not to mention the fact that the $300 million in expenditures is going to go up in the next 7 years for "expansion" and "replacement".

Tell you wife to stay off crap sites that don't take scale into account, dump all you can into mining, and get ahead of next year's electric price increase.  Wink

What site do you recommend profitability? I would love to pour $20k at least into mining BTC and maybe another 10k into GPU's but it's hard to communicate the value of volume and with ROI's at least on most asics is far off. I would love to buy now while the pricing is cheap.

Also, do I need more rank to link a URL in sig or am I just a BCCode newb .. ..

try [url  ]...your link...[/url]


and [url]  not the way it is above as it won't show if I do it correctly  it will link instead
19797  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 1080ti water block hybrid card by corsair/msi on: June 18, 2018, 06:24:41 PM
Purchased in January '18, does that mean there's still 2.5 years left on the warranty? I have never dealt with liquid cooling, so I'm going to shoot you a newbie-style PM with some installation/compatibility questions before I actually make an offer; I am really interested in the card (and your price), especially knowing how you care for your cards.

yeah it has a 3 year warranty

I have paperwork


corsair website sold it to me  in jan of 2018
19798  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Canaan releases the "Moose" - Stackable unit containing 12 x 841 ready to mine. on: June 18, 2018, 03:35:39 PM
Pretty cool, but seems to be a sign of having too much stock and never ending price war with Bitmain. Offload what they can with shorter warranty period. Kind of funny they mount them right next to each other like that when their own support will tell you not to and that they are too close.

they would need good external fans
19799  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 1080ti water block hybrid card by corsair/msi on: June 18, 2018, 03:33:31 PM
I added a grill to them.

corsair wants 869 new plus shipping

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Graphics-Cards/Hydro-GFX-GTX-1080-Ti-Liquid-Cooled-Graphics-Card/p/CB-9060011-WW


an ebay moron wants 997 used best offer

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pre-Owned-Hydro-GFX-GTX-1080-Ti-Liquid-Cooled-Graphics-Card-in-Packaging/123039038092?hash=item1ca5b2ba8c:g:ypIAAOSwLNVatoGy


So I can not hope for 869 or 997 for 1

I figure  if you are usa based I could do  725 usd with free shipping

I am reasonable  and do full disclosure   I paid 803  I mined them at 200 watts for 5 months  or 150 days  earn 3 a day maybe 4 so 600  my deal  with the solar array is split the mining coins  so I cleared maybe 300 maybe 250

so 803 - 300 = 503  or 803 - 250 = 553   box is big shipping is 25 or so   so 528 to 578  and I break even

I asked 725 shipped to USA    I will take offers  that allow me a certain profit.



Ie   do not offer under 578  and of course do not offer  over 725

BTC  is preferred

USA gets you free shipping

Overseas  is a maybe.
19800  Economy / Computer hardware / SOLD 1080ti water block hybrid card by corsair/msi SOLD on: June 18, 2018, 03:25:06 PM


Sold



https://www.corsair.com/us/en/hydro-gfx-1080-ti

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Graphics-Cards/Hydro-GFX-GTX-1080-Ti-Liquid-Cooled-Graphics-Card/p/CB-9060011-WW



OVERVIEW TECH SPECS
Boost Base Core Clock 1683 MHz / 1569 MHz(OC Mode),1657 MHz / 1544 MHz(Gaming Mode) ,1582 MHz / 1480 MHz(Silent Mode)
Graphics card Dimensions Card: 269 x 111x 35 mm / 1363 g,Cooler: 151 x 120 x 52 mm,Tube: 330 x 10.6 mm
Memory Bus 352-bit
Graphics Card Memory Size 11GB
Memory Clock 11124 MHz (OC Mode),11016 MHZ (Gaming Mode),11016 MHz (Silent Mode)
Output DisplayPort x 3 (Version 1.4),HDMI (Version 2.0),DL-DVI-D
Power Consumption Connector 8-pin x 1, 6-pin x 1
CUDA Cores 3584
Interface PCI Express x16 3.0
Memory Type GDDR5x
Power Connector 250W
Recommended PSU 600W
 
Afterburner OC Yes
DirectX 12
HDCP Capable 2.2
GPU NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Maximum Displays 4
Multi-Display Technology Simultaneous Multi-Projection
Multi-GPU Technology SLI®,2-Way
OpenGL 4.5
Power Saving Technology GPU Boost™ 3.0
Virtual Reality Ready Yes
Adaptive Vertical Sync Yes
NVIDIA Ansel Yes
GameWorks technology Yes
GameStream technology Yes
G-SYNC technology Yes
SELECT YOUR LANGUAGE
SELECT YOUR LANGUAGE
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I have a few of them at least 2

they are from jan 2018

any reasonable offer

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