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1981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign on: June 17, 2021, 08:57:07 PM

Or maybe because people like to blame others for mistakes they or their relatives are responsible for. Instead of taking the responsability for the addiction, they prefer to say the gambling industry and the society are guilty for that. Furthermore, instead of trying to overcome this personal addiction in their lives, they pretend the solution to be anti-gambling propagandas to achieve a total ban of gambling activity in the world.
It makes me believe anti-gambling campaigns are vengeance tools used by people who don't know how to handle with gambling in a healthy way, so no one else can have some fun playing as well.

Good point, there are many people who thinks that way, instead of admitting that they are  suffering from this addiction they are trying to point their fingers to other people. They are complaining instead of trying to help themselves in resolving the problem, we can't deny that fact that there are people who will push this propaganda in order completely removed this business.

They wanted to completely stop the facilitation it will bring them more comfort not to see someone enjoying, either  greed inside  or they don't want to see others treating gambling as good source of entertainment.

The gambling industry will never be removed, it already existed in so many centuries and it's already part of our culture. Maybe some countries consider gambling as a sin, so they'll remove it by making it illegal for citizens to gamble, but the majority of the world would still allow gambling.
1982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Naoya Inoue vs Michael Dasmarinas June 19 on: June 17, 2021, 01:18:10 PM
Still no betting line for this fight?

The fight will happen 3 days from now and we still don't have any opportunity to bet, nah.. this would be boring without us putting a bet.
I hope they'll be up tomorrow or the next day.

Anyone already see a betting line for this fight?

I just check Sportsbet.io and yeah, this fight is not listed

https://sportsbet.io/sports/boxing/matches/future

Will be boring indeed if we are going to see the fight and then we don't have any bets.

Hope that Sportsbet.io is aware of this fight, and know that there are a lot of Inoue and Dasmarinas fans wiling to put a bet on this fight.

I also checked it from stake and the fight is not available as well, bookies should consider this fight and provide the odds now for much earlier betting to those fans who loves to stake their money with their favorite fighter.

It's a much awaited fight and even Inoue have a good edge from Dasmarinas for sure there are still fans that loves taking the big risk.

Let see if how early the adjustment will be done from the sports house, a great fight to expect.

since stake and other bookies haven't listed this match yet, i found a new gambling site that recently introduced their casino. betja.com listed this match with below odds



i know they are pretty new here. but if you will bet on them, i don't think they will ruin their name this early. and they are not requiring kyc as per their thread here

Thanks for sharing yet another bookie that had these betting odds. 1xbit still has the bet odds but I'm just worried about their reputation. will try betting on this site, at least now we have 2 options while the popular betting sites here has not added this fight yet.
1983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling becomes popular on: June 17, 2021, 12:24:23 PM
For me thinking that you were going to settle for a thought of using gambling as your source of income, it will be a total kind of risk.

It's not for all of us, there are really people who risk gambling and consider it as a source of their income, they are smart, they have the skills and they make consistent money in gambling. In reality, gambling is not really bad, it's not a fraud that no one can win, we just have to understand that they have the edge so they win most of the time, but the good news is not all the time.
1984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Lopez vs Kambosos - June 19 on: June 16, 2021, 01:43:49 PM
We have some breaking news. Teofimo Lopez has tested positive for Covid-19 and this fight has been postponed, again. This has been a real disaster for Triller who paid a lot more money than this fight was worth and then had to change the date because of the Floyd fight and now because of this.


BREAKING: Source: Teofimo Lopez tests positive for Covid-19, Kambosos fight and card is off, moving to Aug. 14.#boxing #LopezKambosos


Damn, after so many postponements, here we are again hehe.

Moving the fight to August 14 might not be a good idea as the fight between Manny and Errol Spence is scheduled on August 21 so I think people might not buy the PPV as they rather watch the Pacman return.


August is the month for Manny and Errol, no one can steal that moment for them, so I agree with you, it's a bad idea to schedule on that month. I just hope Lopez can fully recover and the covid-19 virus will not affect his performance in this fight. These boxers should be careful, not only for themselves but more so on the fans who had already paid for the PPV of this fight and some have bought the ticket to watch the fight in the Arena.
1985  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 16, 2021, 01:18:13 PM
Bucks blew away their only golden opportunity in the series to beat the Nets, now they have to win 2 games in order to beat the Nets in the series and that would be tough because once Irving is fully recovered, they will have to face the big 3 of the Nets.

Their defense on Durant was not carefully planned, they should double him and put somebody on him as he was the only one who is consistently helping the team to win, yes Green was there but if they can stop Durant, Bucks would have won that game.
They forgot what they did in the first half. They had the best chemistry at that time but not until the 2nd half.
I guess the showers made them cold with each other.  Grin

Golden opportunity. Yes, you could put it that way. Harden was still looking for his rhythm and Kyrie was out.
If they didn't mess around and made every possession as important as possible then it could've been a win for them.
I was waiting for Middleton to answer at every field goal Durant makes, but there's no answer. KD made sure his rhythm won't be stopped with the eye for W.

The one who could at least limit Durant was in early foul trouble, Tucker had 5 fouls in this game and only played 33 minutes. I think Bucks just did the right thing, Durant was just too lucky to hit his shots in the 4th quarter. It's really destined for us to see a good match up and we might see a game 7 as game 6 is in the home court of the Bucks and I believe they are really good at home.
1986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 15, 2021, 09:53:08 PM
The hosts will play without Harden and Irving tonight, so Milwaukee has to take advantage of this. In the fourth game of the series, they showed really good form. Of course, Kyrie's premature exit from the pitch certainly made their task easier, but even in the early stages of the match, they showed that they were able to outweigh the Nets with their prowess and physical advantage. I bet Bucks win tonight.

Yeah! I quite agree with you on this.

I believe the momentum would have tilted the Bucks way after game 3 and game 4, the Bucks actually got quite a bit of luck on their side, but that's not to discredit their own effort.

I would have fancied backing the Bucks -2.5 tonight, because I strongly doubt that Durant alone can carry the Nets against this Bucks side, However I'll be going for the Over 220.5 Instead

There's something going on here, it looks like Harden is going to play and we can tell that based on the line movement. It was opened at +2.5 move to +4.5 and now back to +2.5.. and if this is true https://www.si.com/nba/2021/06/14/james-harden-out-nets-bucks-game-5, then we might see a good game 5 here.

That's good news, Nets need either Irving or Harden in this game for them to have a chance of winning, and this is a very important game for them. Right now, the Nets are still the underdog, so I'll not take it, for now, I'll confirm it and once I see Harden playing live with the team, then I'll take it.

Thank you for the information, I guess that's the latest update for now.

Harden - questionable
Irving - confirmed out.
1987  Economy / Speculation / Re: I speculate Tesla has sold their coins on: June 15, 2021, 09:29:57 PM
According to Musk's recent tweet, Tesla sold 10% of its holdings to prove the liquidations. This may be true and companies do this in order to prove liquidity but we will not able to know if they sell in the early days of a quarter. Tesla might start accepting Bitcoin in the future to keep their Bitcoin wallets full but it'll be harder for us to know what they're doing now.
That's a wrong move proving the liquidity of bitcoin, they have both that bitcoin when the market was already liquid, so they have already prove themselves that liquidy was there in the first place, for me,  I think they are up to something with their tweet and announcement, they are not true to it and there main intention is just to take advantage and manipulate the market.
1988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 15, 2021, 01:41:25 PM
It's about the defense, that's something the Jazz has to improve, on the 2 losses of the Clippers on the road, that was because they have limited the production of PG, but PG has also adjusted now and has been providing some good points for the team, that's something they need to figure out back home, if they can't then Clippers might win the next 2 games.
It's true. If Royce will be defending Kawhi, who can match PG13?
Bojan and Joe Ingles seem to have a hard time doing that but they don't have many options either than those two.
Whenever a switch happens, this is where their defense breaks down.

Now regarding their offensive attack. Pick and roll is gone. I don't even see Gobert making any points anymore. He is the key for the Jazz to be back on top of their series. I even bet for him to at least make 20 total points and rebounds but I am disappointed.
He made 11 points and 8 rebounds for 32 minutes. Perhaps the Jazz should just go small and rely on transition plays.

Pick and roll does only work effectively for the Jazz if they have Conley on the floor, he is the guy who can make the Jazz better because he is more focused on passing or facilitating than scoring, Mitchell is not a pure PG, he is more on scoring and do a lot of attempts in the 3 point line.
1989  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Naoya Inoue vs Michael Dasmarinas (No date yet) on: June 14, 2021, 09:48:10 PM


Well, we would have 3 Filipino champions.

Donaire, Inoue, and Dasmarinas, that would be awesome, but are we going to see them fight against each other if that will happen?

John Riel Reponte Casimero - World Boxing Organisation World Bantam Title
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

Nonito Gonzales Donaire Jr. - World Boxing Council World Bantam Title
https://boxrec.com/en/title/6/Bantamweight

Naoya Inoue - World Boxing Association Super World Bantam Title
                     International Boxing Federation World Bantam Title
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/628407


Inoue is a Japanese professional boxer not a Filipino - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoya_Inoue. Maybe, you want to include Manny Pacquiao instead. Don't know where you are coming from why you include Inoue in the line-up of Filipino Boxers?

And still, top sportsbooks here don't have this match yet. Maybe a day or two before the event, they will list this Inoue-Dasmarinas fight.

I'm thinking that it's a typo error but he provide information for Inoue instead of Pacquiao.
But for sure it intended for Pacquiao side and not for the  Japanese fighter,

Donaire just made his comeback, while Dasmarinas will be test fighting  Inoue and try to
snatch the belt from the japanese fighter, a good test for Dasmarinas knowing how furious Inoue.

Then, Pacquiao will face Spence Jr another  historic fight before Manny retired to this sport.


Pacquiao should not be included here since it's the bantamweight division, I think what he is trying to explain is that if Inoue loses, there will be 3 Filipinos that will become champion in the same division, and they'll have to fight each other if they want to unify the title or others will move up in weight.
1990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Economic Costs of Gambling on: June 14, 2021, 09:24:16 PM
Gambling addictions are one of the extremes of gambling. The thing is this doesn't happen as much as we think it does because not everyone will have the money to fund themselves to addiction. Lotteries on the other hand do our governments' a favor thru funding and taxation. So these economic setbacks you're talking about should be counteracted by these measures.
If people like to gamble, they will search for money, even if they need to borrow from other people to fills their wanting to play gambling. We do not know how they can do that, but for them, that will not too hard as they can search for other people and get that money. But the lottery is one of the gambling games. Sometimes, people do not realize that lottery is a gambling game instead will buy the ticket to win some prizes.
Then that is not wrong, if a gambler started that way, there's a big possibility that he will be in trouble in the long run. Gambling doesn't seem entertaining if you are forcing yourselves to gamble, yes, you are forcing yourself because you are borrowing money to gamble which obviously you can afford to gamble at all.
1991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling becomes popular on: June 11, 2021, 09:43:51 PM
The Crypto market is a big market, as long as the gambling site is legit and has enough capital, there's always a chance to succeed.

We also saw a lot of new casinos that are popular now in the forum, I don't know outside the forum but the amount of stake they're showing really says their market is already big. It's like in the real business world, old business doesn't mean they'll dominate as the new one could start it well until they succeed, in fact, it's a competition for any business, whether old or new, what matter is they can satisfy their clients as that would give them profit.
1992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: High discount in presale on: June 11, 2021, 08:58:31 PM
Is 75$ discount in presale of a project way too high? What do you think will happen to such project giving away too high discount for a presale? Will this cos huge dump or you've seen projects that survives after such massive discount

Most of the time, but still it's important to know more about the project's team as they will tell the reputation of the project as a whole. They are raising funds, giving a huge discount for early investors, but it's too risky at the same time so you deserve the reward if they succeed.

But like what I'm saying, most of the time it will dump when it's listed in the exchange, so DYOR, and good luck.
1993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Red crypto market today on: June 11, 2021, 08:38:43 PM
When the market is bearish, that is the time to focus on your plan and ignore the prices of your coin and token! The Cryptocurrency market can not increase in price all the time,  there will be time like this when prices will drop across board! Persistence is the most powerful attributes you could have in Cryptocurrency investment, You must hold and stay the course!
It's easy to understand that if we are realistic, we just simply look at the graph and we will know the history of the price movement.

Now, that the correction has started, at least in my own opinion, I would say that the price might still go down and this might create more panic for the weak hands. Let bitcoin dump more and altcoins will follow, with that, I can say it's guaranteed we will see a good price and it's also guaranteed we will be profitable if we hold.
1994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BNB to $1k? on: June 11, 2021, 08:19:25 PM
BNB was one of the top exchange in the market, so I could say a big YES for me.  Only thing is that we don't when will that happen of course. However, as of now it may be dumped its price but does not mean it will continue of course not! lets wait a little bit longer sooner or later it go back again to rise its price value for sure, but for now let us be patience at the moment.
The best time to witness a new ATH is on the next bull run to come, it might not come anytime soon as we have already achieved a new ATH this year, the market seems to be on a correction, and instead we will see a cheap BNB price which could give us an opportunity to accumulate.

Just think of the current price as the price of ETH before, would you not take the opportunity to accumulate knowing it will soon hit $4000?
1995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BNB to $1k? on: June 11, 2021, 01:28:13 PM
Binance Coin has been on the rise ever since ETH's network congestion has grown to a point where the "little guy" is left out of the system. PancakeSwap has been the major platform to lead BNB's price all the way to the moon. At the time of this writing, Binance Coin is the third-largest cryptocurrency by market cap with a price well above $500 per coin. If Binance's project rose from the ground at such a fast pace, what's stopping it from reaching $1k in the future?

What are your thoughts? Do you think BNB will reach $1k soon? If not, why? Is BNB's price sustainable? What's your prediction of BNB's price 5-10 years from now? Your input will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. Smiley

At first I was optimistic that it could be achieved in June, unfortunately the market went down and had to wait patiently. If BNB reaches $1k I immediately buy new a BMW X3, I'm optimistic the price of $1 can be achieved in 3 years, hold hold is the best option for BNB because many projects are based on Binance Smart Chain.

That's alright, we can't force BNB to rise that high when it has already increased significantly during the bull run, we have to be realistic, understand the correction comes when the market is overvalued.

Look, BNB was only $37 at the start of 2020, and it reaches its ATH last month with almost $700 price per BNB. That's almost 20 times increase and that really give a great return on your investment over that short period of time only.
1996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Naoya Inoue vs Michael Dasmarinas June 19 on: June 11, 2021, 01:01:39 PM
Just going back when Donaire vs Inoue happened on where it is almost happened on turning of events.

That's a different scenario, remember that Donaire was a champion, once a champion I mean, while Dasmarinas is just a contender. Though I believe in upset, we can't compare the Inoue vs Donaire fight to the present fight of Inoue.
1997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: June 11, 2021, 12:02:13 PM
Hahaha, did you guys heard the chants last night from Jazz fans ? " PG IS OVERRATED". I mean he was the best player from Clippers last night but the fact that he has a fight with Ingles, made the fans to chant against him and it worked as Jazz won and they're up 2-0. To be honest , I don't see CLippers coming back into this one ...I mean sure, they can win 1 game but they won't win the series.

We can't so sure about that. Remember the Clippers started 0-2 against the Dallas Mavericks.
The Clippers were able to execute a good offensive plays early both in game 1 and game 2, but the Utah Jazz have better supporting cast. Morris had a lot of open 3 pt. shots late in the 4th quarter, but couldn't sink one.
Let's see what's the Clippers adjustment in game 3. If they can't win for the 3rd straight game, I'm afraid they'll going to be swept as the Utah Jazz have a good winning momentum.

Clippers and Nuggets are in the same situation now, we can't use the last 2 games as a basis to conclude that they will lose right away. Home court advantage is really a big factor here, so let's expect that the Clippers and Nuggets will bounce back in game 3.
1998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Naoya Inoue vs Michael Dasmarinas June 19 on: June 10, 2021, 09:53:01 PM
Hey guys! I'm just sharing, the odds are already out in one of the bookies.

Dasmarinas is x15.. will you hesitate to take that?

https://1xbet.com/en/line/Boxing/
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I know it's from a non reputable site, but it's up to you if you'll bet on the site.

for sure there will be other reputable bookies that will list this fight. need to wait for few days. but we have idea about the gap of their odds now, such wide one. if you will bet on inoue, you will gain only a lil bit and not really worth imo, but if you will bet on dasmarinas, and if in any case, this will be an upset, that's a huge winning. take your pick. wondering why other bookies is not listing this yet, considering the name of inoue in boxing?


Waiting is the key here, I don't want to touch so much on the reputation of the site, we know they have a lot of active scam accusations but they are still active in marketing now, maybe they have different odds providers.

I search on Sportsbet, stake, and Bitsler found nothing.


Doing some checking now and as of this time, the odds are still not available.

There's not much on this hype as people think that it's an easy fight by Inoue, that's very evident on the early odds they have provided.
1999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: June 10, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
The clippers will not be swept by the Jazz,  let's be smart and knows how this playoff goes.

Bet on the Clippers now, double it in game 3 if they'll lose.

This is the best scenario that a martingale method will work, just trust the team, they'll never be like the fate of the Miami Heat.
2000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BNB reached $100 on: June 10, 2021, 02:03:48 PM
BNB is turn into one of the best coin because of the BSC and BNB is already become the real contender for ETH.

BNB is verry good coin for long term investment!

thats true, im on your side !
I really think bnb will be the real contender for ethereum. Market will be more interesting if there is not monopoly, right.
binance really show a good progress within these months, although binance also had a half correction from ATH $675 but i believe the price will increase again.

It's easy for BNB to rise especially if the market is bullish, when it's bullish, investors will come to invest and Binance is one of the biggest exchange could use its power to hype their own coin, it's easy for them that's why BNB is such a great investment. If we believe it could compete with ETH, then believe that the current price will rise x10.
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