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1981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Would you sell your BCC or HODL? on: August 01, 2017, 05:57:13 PM
- Most people will sell bcc as quickly as possible because really it does not create trust for users, many people say it's just shitcoin and it will soon collapse in the market. In addition, it is free for users, and because of free, many people will sell and not many people buy, they will be dumping and its price will fall rapidly after a short time, so I do not have any reason to hold it. I think it should not appear, its appearance is a stupid thing, the future of bcc very bad, I do not think users will enjoy it
1982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: August 01, 2017, 05:39:15 PM
I consider trading as gambling because it involves money and risk but the advantage of trading is you will only lose if you sell in losing position. If you will hold your coin and wait for the pump then you will not lose anything.
but i think risk is always there even in investment. so i do not consider trading as gambling, i think there is a big difference between trading and gambling, in fact in most of the gambling games we mostly depend on our luck while in trading we depend on our experience and skill. our analysis is also too much important in trading. if we do not have such experience and we only depend on our luck even for trading then we can consider trading as gambling.
yes that is right i will also never consider trading as gambling, because there are a lot of factors which  separate trading from gambling. for example the most important factor is luck. in gambling we mostly depend on our luck while in trading along with our luck we also depend of our experience and skill and therefore i will also never consider trading as gambling.
The only thing that would tell is the outcome on what you are doing, if it is gambling there you are just playing when you are trading but it does not work that way because trading is boring and it can only be fun when you make money doing it.
well inside trading if you really ain't familiar with what you are doing i guess you are really risking your capital and it can turned to gambling but if you have enough knowledge regarding to the flow and you are expecting good outcome then i think you are not doing any gambling but proper investing from the
trade that you are supporting.
I don't think so. Trading is for trading but gambling has many ways to waste specially when you play something. We normally know that it is for enjoyment or for fun alone but has to bet some money or even property. In the eyes of people, it is considered as vices. While trading has a better ways of puposes in economy and at the same time it doesn't sound bad to the people. You can trade goods, coins and the like and it focuses more on economy and investments for businesses and etc.,
- I only know trading is a job while gambling is not a job although both have many similarities but the purpose of both is different, the main purpose of gambling is entertainment, this really is a place to kill time and waste money, we can not make money from it. With trading, main purpose of trading is make money, do not have any fun and joking, we need seriously and focus in trading. Luck is essential in everything, we do not need to talk about it
1983  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin heading to $4,000 on: August 01, 2017, 05:11:12 PM
I don't think Bitcoin is headed to 4000$ anytime in near future.bitcoin is showing very fast growth so I think the price of Bitcoin will be close to 3500$ by the end of 2017.
No that is easily possible that within this month the price of bitcoin reach to $4000 because after today event people are now again talking interest in bitcoin and now once again they will start to invest in bitcoin and will start their business fully with bitcoin and so the price of bitcoin will increase up much higher and we will get that price.

I would be careful with such predictions. The truth is that confidence in bitcoin wi be restored after all this drama about August 1st but nothing spectacular will happen over night and for a price of 4000$ is a bit too early. Let's wait and see next couple of days when things on market get stable again.

I believed it can go to $4000 but it will not be overnight or couple of days. It will be months to bring back confidence into bitcoin market. I'm seeing that the dip has started already, so we may see it ran in days or even weeks. But after everything has settled, investors confidence will be back again so its possible to break $3000-$4000 soon.
- Yes, the price of bitcoin has been declining in recent hours because the appearance of bitcoin cash, and now it still has the sign of continuing to decline, the market is now very unstable. Bitcoin will need a long time to recover and achieve a new value, the first goal can be 3000 dollars then $ 3,500 and $ 4,000 but nothing is certain, so we will need to wait the next information to determine the future of Bitcoin. Hopefully Bitcoin will soon increase again
1984  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fixed income with BTC trading? on: August 01, 2017, 04:57:44 PM

I want to generate a constant monthly gain. Is it possible to do this by bitcoin trading? So, can I just do this by dealing with BTC trading?
Are there any people among us who can make a living by trading in BTC?
There is no fixed income when it come to trading crypto currency because, what you earn today or this month may not be the same as what you will earn tomorrow or next month. People who are good in trading crypto currency makes a lot of money from it and even a leaving from trading crypto currency.
Yeah ,and not only in trading because here in cryptocurrency world there is no fixed income. It is too different in a real job outside the internet ,only few people now knows bitcoins and more few in a trading activity . Trading is not profitable for all people and it is only for those who knows how to do a good trade having skills because of their determination and persistent to learn ,apply even thou they lose .
Indeed, there is no way of having fixed income with digital coins. The market is all the time displaying variations making trading a tough job for the newcomers. Even sometimes, the mentors also commit silly mistakes when the market is facing downfall. No, it is for everyone. All those have patience and courage can jump into trading and secure their future.
- Surely, this is an unpredictable market, it changes constantly over time, it is also very similar with gambling and our income is based on luck although not completely, but luck is also part. And we all know luck depends on fate, so our income is never fixed, I think it's a good thing because if fixed, we will need a long time to become rich but because it is not fixed, we can rely on luck to become rich in a short time
1985  Economy / Economics / Re: If you have a lot of bitcoin, should you spend it or save it? on: July 31, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
No one should sell something unless you need it for some emergency, why would anybody sell bitcoin  knowing it can be worting 5000-50000 dollars over the next years, sure if you have a big ammount you should be able to use to improve your life quality.
For other side some people doing trade always wanna to get more bitcoins soo they trade and expect those to happen, a few are able to grow their bitcoins size.
- But no one is sure that the price of bitcoin will reach $ 5000-50000 in the coming years, this is something belonging to the future and the future is something unpredictable. So I think we should sell in part when the price of bitcoin reaches a price that we feel is high and appropriate, save the rest to invest for the future or we can trade to earn more bitcoin
1986  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What will happen after SEGWIT? on: July 31, 2017, 03:03:02 PM
- This is something I and a lot of people want to know. Currently the market is in a state of panic, many rumors are that the price of bitcoin will fall and the market will have the appearance of bcc, and many people are saying bcc is a trap and a stupid thought of miners, summary is that there are many opinions on this issue. Personally, I still believe in a successful segwit, fork will not appear
1987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When to leave the game? on: July 31, 2017, 02:39:01 PM
As you know that you need to stop and leave the game? How can you feel this moment. I almost always lose their money because they can't learn when to leave the game. I'm not sorry to lose. I have a lot of money not to lose, but I can't keep the winnings if I'm lucky.
You can leave the game once you reached a certain amount of loses or profit. If you think you cant do it alone, ask someone to be with you when playing because there are times greed will strike you so hard that you already lost a lot of money and yet you are still asking for more chips and you end up broke.
This might work on having a buddy on playing gambling but we wont know if that person would help us to stop or play even more. Lets say hes much more addicted than you then you will surely play even more when he tries to convince you to play even more. Setting limits or goals would really be suggested anytime if you do lose a certain amount don't plan to go further because this will surely make you wreck.
- Agreed, we need to define a limit for ourselves, and when we reach the limit, we should stop immediately. It sounds very simple but very difficult to do, sometimes we will exceed the limit, so we will need someone more to support us, and gradually we will create a habit to set limits before gambling, it will help us to leave gambling timely, avoid loss increases
1988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: July 31, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
I am earning and collecting bitcoin to bet on sports in future.Will it be a good choice to invest in it betting or other things.Where should i invest my bitcoin to have a long term profit?

I think that gambling is not advisable for newbies. It's a bad habit to start when you want to earn bitcoins. I think it would be better if you would just invest your bitcoin somewhere else or you can just go trading. It's easy to earn easy money with gambling, but losing in it is also possible. If you want to earn first, find other means to do so.
- Yeah, gambling is not a good choice for newbies because this is an activity that wastes money and time. Gambling is just an entertaining game, making money from it is impossible, in the long run we will lose all and become addicted to gambling, this is not good for us, so if newbies want to start making money and saving Bitcoin, the best is that they should stay away from gambling.
1989  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why BILL GATES do not USE Bitcoin? on: July 31, 2017, 01:58:03 PM
Hello,
I just want to know why Bill Gates do not invest some money in Bitcoin, he will be a very big contributor to the crypto world, and will also be very respected, he will also be able to become more rich (or less).
But what is the reason why he do not invest funds in cryptocurrencies?

Maybe Bill Gates has not found the good side of Bitcoin, if he knows how profitable to invest in dibitcoin maybe he will soon invest. Or maybe there should be a new breakthrough from the world of cryptocurency to work with microsoft to interest Bill Gates.
- I do not think so, the main purpose of the investment is to make money and actually Bill Gates is a billionaire, he has his own company, he always spends a lot of time with his company, his daily profit is huge, he does not need to invest in bitcoin to make money. I think the only thing he wants now is to enjoy life and rest after years of hard work
1990  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't Spend Too Much Time Trading? is that true? on: July 30, 2017, 12:03:43 PM
i'm one who spend too much time for trading. I made so many stupid mistakes because of thinking emotionally instead of logically. Cry
what is your opinion?
- Time is more or less depending on the strategy and plan you are doing. For example, you determine that you will use strategy to "surfing", you will buy and sell in a very short time period but continuously, you will have to spend more time to trading but if you determine you will hold in the long term, every day you just spend a little time to see the price and then you can do something else. In addition, you should determine price should buy and the price will sell, the price cut loss before trading, that will make the emotion will not affect you
1991  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 30, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
Both. To invest you need to have some saved up and it's a bad idea to invest the money you're living on.
If you're really afraid of investing do yourself a favor and don't keep your savings in a bank. Buy a good safe or a piece of land that will work as both a store of value and an investment.

Both saving and investing can give benefits for a person and make a person earn profit. In saving it's much better to save your btc in your bitcoin wallet than to save it in banks, because it will grow much in bitcoin wallets than in banks, there is nothing wrong with holding and saving it. It will depend on the person owning the btc. And investing, it can be a long-term income for a person but it involves risk so one must first study and learn all the things he must know about the project he will be investing to.
- Yeah, saving and investing, we should do both because saving are investment for the future, and investing is a way for us to make more money and save more in the future. In addition, in investment, we will face a lot of risk, we should think of the worst situations such as we lose all investment money, and unlucky if we put all our money into investing, I think this would be a terrible thing. But if we only invest in part and save part, we will have the money to continue investing and start rebuilding our careers
1992  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: July 30, 2017, 10:57:21 AM
It is true that The popularity of paper money is decreasing day by day for online currency. One it rich on near about 0%. But in online currency has the biggest risk. So, We should aware of online security and learn about it. Otherwise, we will fall in great danger.
The popularity decreases but it will never gonna be eliminated in the circulation, still majority of people are still
getting the convenient of using paper money especially those places where development of technology is very late.
- Exactly, the popularity of paper money will decrease because in the future, countries around the world will move towards modernization, digital currency technology will develop. Paper money will still exist but the amount of paper money will be kept to a certain extent, and gradually will be eliminated over time, until one day the paper money will disappear and digital currency will replace it
1993  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your way of spreading Bitcoin knowledge? on: July 30, 2017, 10:40:45 AM
There's a lot of way in order to spread bitcoin knowledge. This is just my personal way to share knowledge about bitcoin because not all of them are interested to join the cryptocurrency world they are preffered more to earn real money not knowing that bitcoin is also a way to earn money. So here are my 2 ways on how i shared my knowledge about bitcoin.

1. When i'm with my friends i show to them money and told them that i earned it from bitcoins and they're wondering what bitcoin is and then thats where the discussion starts.

2. Spreading the word through social media we all know that one of the best way to spread words, news etc. is the social media because it can maximize the exposure of the topic.
- Yeah, I also try to spread my friends about bitcoin but most of them do not have too much trust, they feel like I'm cheating them, they do not believe that making money online is real. Currently the way I spread bitcoin is the same as you, I often share knowledge about the bitcoin on the social networking site facebook and twitter. In addition, I also share the way to earn bitcoin on the online money making forum, it is very attractive because many students are looking to find a job at home and fit their study time
1994  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: July 29, 2017, 04:03:57 PM
Yes, I am very much disappointed specially when my investment did not go with the flow that I want it to be. I always want to earn more but most of the time I failed. I guess,  i just need to invest more and search or learn some strategies or technique on how to trade in a right way.

That's life dude. I also had a lot of missed opportunities or wrong decisions or sometimes instances when i was left with no choice but to sell below my entry point. Just don't let that get to you dude. Trading is worth it and there's really money there. We just can't avoid setbacks sobwe have to ride through them.
That is a life of a trader ups and downs as long as you not stop learning and applying what you've learn until you get what are tge real flow and how to analyze the market to entry.
- If we are beginners with trading, disappointment is inevitable when we make the wrong decision but after a period of time to learn and experience accumulation, we will know that we do not need to be too disappointed because we are human, not saints, make the wrong decision is normal. The most important thing is that we should think it is a lesson to help us not make mistakes again. Failure, learning and improve ourselves is the way we survive and make money in trading
1995  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: July 29, 2017, 02:58:39 PM
I save bitcoin for future purpose. In the future, I bet I will have a lot of problems to solve and especially economic problem. So Saving bitcoin is a  neccesary decision to live better after that.

I do the same, I'm now thinking with my future though it's not my duty for doing it.

As I'm still at a very young age but I wanted to become a very wise person and will always think about my good future.

I won't waste bitcoin for now I want to take always the wisest decision for it.
- Yeah, now is the time for us to earn more bitcoin, we should not waste bitcoin on unnecessary things because surely in the future, the value of bitcoin will increase very high. Investing and saving bitcoin from now is the best way to invest for our future, Bitcoin is a good opportunity for us to improve our economy and life in the future, be serious with it.
1996  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to earn Bitcoin without investment on: July 29, 2017, 02:50:17 PM
- If you are a beginner with Bitcoin, I think you should start making money from free faucets and building an account on the bitcointalk forum, build 1 twitter and facebook account with many followers. I know many people say that free faucets are wasting too much time and do not earn too much bitcoin but if we know the trick to cheat, this will be a good source of bitcoin income for us. After completing the necessary requirements, you can earn Bitcoin from signature campaigns and social campaigns
1997  Economy / Services / Re: VIBERATE Signature Campaign on: July 27, 2017, 01:48:05 PM
Btctalk name: conected
Rank: Sr. Member
Current post count: 595
BTC address: 1KUeAy3eUYVsiuqgxeqp2rv56pPDkAgnor
ETH address(not from an exchange): 0x1B5e061AE312317fEA58dce88a01dD5a72Fe0066
Wear appropriate signature: Yes
1998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DCORP Crowdsale - Democratizing Venture Capitalism on: June 28, 2017, 03:38:21 PM
All right! The ICO ends in less than 48 hours. The crowd sale will be closed permanently. https://www.dcorp.it/crowdsale#countdown

Invest while there's still a time! No doubt the crowd sale will be a  successful project. And also the signature campaign will end soon. Good luck everyone for those who invested just like me and I have a great time with the campaign.  Grin
Yea for sure it will be a success, I just watch an interview to the founder of the and developer of the ICO and he's been asked if what will be the potential value of the DRP or what will be it's worth. He said that he can't answer that till the DRP is available for trade but he also said that they are back up by ether and they will prevent devaluation of the coin resulting to dumping. Hearing these answers will put your mind at ease knowing that they are doing the best that they can to be successful.
- Yeah, the project was great and created a lot of great surprises for me, the managers and supporters of the project did very well. They always try and work hard every day to be successful, they deserve to be successful. I also invested some money into the project, hopefully after ico finishes, my money could double or triple and I also hope that the founders and teams can prevent the devaluation of the coin as he said. By the way, I also congratulate the project has successfully developed and nice
1999  Other / Archival / Re: Do you think that you're addicted to gambling? on: June 28, 2017, 02:47:16 PM
no i am not addicted, i have full control on my self, i have limited my gambling, and always play gambling on a strategy, some time i quit gambling and do not play it for week or so, but  it has no effect on me, i think i can control my self not to play gambling.

Controlling yourself in gambling is not enough for you to control this addiction in gambling, what you must do is to completely forget this gambling and focus on the other things which is not that risky on gambling. But I'm not addicted to gambling, but I do gambling just to have a pastime to not to get bored. I'm always setting a certain amount of bitcoin to spend on this and if I lose it all then it just mean I need to call it a day.
Yes, I practice gambling like a pastime and I'm satisfied myself that not a serious patient following other gambling addicted ppl. As I'm not profession in gambling so doesn't make sense do it everyday purpose. Enjoy gambling just guesses my favorite team and view it as a harmless pastime.

This is a good approach and I suggest it to other people as well. Keep your gambling to a limit and try not to cross that limit. Then try to control the number of days/week that you gamble. Slowly but steadily we can control the addiction if we are dedicated to really controlling it. Keeping gambling to a pastime and not letting it get over your minds is the key.
easy to say but difficult to apply, i do not think that it is so easy to stop gambling with your said planing, because we even know that if we follow the follow strategy we can stop gambling but in fact it is not so we need some additional help.
yes i am agree with you that it is really difficult to stop gambling so easily. i am sure that it require a lot of effort and strong determination and even then most of the people have still not succeeded to quit gambling. i personally tried for so many time but mot use. i cannot succeeded to stop gambling at all. and still i am playing gambling regularly.  i really found it very hard to stop gambling at all.

Even I was addicted to gambling too in the past and I used to gamble on sports on directbet and haven't missed any single tournament related to cricket, soccer and tennis but now directbet has been closed and I dont find any other good site to gamble on sports which has helped me in staying away from gambling since last one month and now even if I don't gamble it doesn't make any difference to me.
- Actually, I think the stop gambling when we are addicted to gambling if say it is difficult, I think it would not be difficult, but if say it's easy, I think it will also not be easy because it depends very much on ourselves. If our effort and our patience are not enough, we will never stop gambling. Personally, I was also addicted to gambling but I succeeded in stopping and abandoning it, my way is very simple, I do not use the internet and mobile phones, and I seek help from my family
2000  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: June 28, 2017, 02:26:51 PM
Just as in the financial markets the long-term holder usually always fairs better than the active trader.

Problem is that trading is so much more fun!  Grin

We are all gamblers at heart!
lol yes that is true , if you calculate everything you will find that you are as a daily trader have less profit for those people who did not put a lot of time looking at the charts. pretty annoying right? now you just need to be a smart trader .

i mean don't be greedy no matter you are a long term trader or not both are same worth but has different risk.
It doesn't matter if you are a long term trader or short term trader as long as you are making profit then it is good, a lot of people lose money because they are lacking of knowledge so it lead for them to be greedy and they are just taking all the risk without finding out if it is worth it or not. For me, it is worth it to invest rather than to trade because trading is riskier while investing is like trading but you are selling your coins after a long time.

Right,it will depend on once knowledge ,if your skilled on choosing the right investment project or your too good on watching and choosing the right amount for you to trade, we need a little patience in both activity to be able to succeed.
- Yeah, both trading and investing are good, we should not compare because each person will have different knowledge, different skills and analysis. With some people, they have the knowledge and experience in trading, they will say trading is better because they can make a lot of profit from it. But with some others, they prefer to invest more because they have a lot of experience and know how to choose reputable sites to invest. In short, it depends on the ability of each person
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