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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: December 18, 2017, 01:16:01 PM
focus only on Slovenia...this is now a fact ...

Even if they focus on specific country or region they will still become a highly potential coin to invest, because they have real project and roadmap, it's just a matter of time before Xaurum becomes the talk of all town.

What roadmap? For the last couple of pages we've been asking for one but can't find any
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: December 08, 2017, 07:24:25 AM
The only good thing in a while are the twitter updates. They show some activity in management. We needed this. Thank you.

Safe haven you say? Xaurum is currently positioned >200 on CC market. It's existance is questionable in case of FIAT or CC market crash. Melt can only be done via their webpage, until then they're the holders/owners of gold. Do you still think it's a safe haven? There's no third party that would be responsible and guarantee us gold backup in case everything goes sour.
Be more realistic... XAUR has a good chance but not so far down the list.

One more thing. I'm glad to see that marketing money isn't wasted on fancy cars at local events.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: November 17, 2017, 07:01:30 AM
We need an exchange so we can get a price, with no cost we cant peppermint or my own any new cash while increasing the gold foundation. Just look in the method, ideally it wont take long?
Everyone that's active in this thread and owns some xaurum coins knows that... That's what we've been explaining to management for the last 30 (at least) pages.

It's 17th of November. Their homepage still states: "Xaurum team will reveal its vision in a whitepaper 2.0 which will be presented to the public on November 7, 2017."

24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: November 13, 2017, 06:52:04 AM

Not sleeping like xaurum?


If you change focus, like Gamma did, this is a normal result. You can do only one thing on 100%, everything else is just a diversion.

Competitors? Funny Cheesy Do you even know what goldmint is about? If there is world GOLD in the name it does not mean, that they are in any way similar to Xaurum.

How much money from the crowdsale will they spent on buying gold? Big fat zero Cheesy But they will spent 35% for marketing to convince people, that they actually have value. Do they have better marketing? Yes. Do I want that Xaurum team instead of buying gold spend 35% of minting money just for marketing? No.

p.s. I do not think Goldmint has a bad project, just that is nonsense portraying them as Xaurums competitors. They are dealing with completely different problem. And its kinda sad that that Xaurum holder or at least someone who spends lots of time on this thread does not know what Xaurum actually is about :-)




Thats really good explanation....none want to copy Xaurum because all devs know that they need to work very hard for many years and they will not earn easy money...Xaurum has 0% premine ask your self why??? Because you can have Xaurums only if you paid for new gold( or you buy on market) AND there is no differences if you are a dev or buyer.

I believe in Xaurum because they started to build a project on solid foundations and a quality concept for the afternoon


Zrjawkn, you're talking nonsense (again).

1. Xaurum IS NOT the only CC backed by gold. Soon OneGram, ZenGold and many others will be released and times might change. Guess that's the reason I'm pissed on Xaurums IDLE status (??)

2. Xaurum might be built on strong foundations (if you say so), but things are rather disturbing. They ignore asked questions that might influence the debate. One of them is the size of the reward share in mint process. Every other CC has published a graph and presented us with portions (management, marketing etc...), Xaurum management still ignores it (I asked it numerous times). Let's wait for the promised whitepapers (on 7th, on 17th of November)

I believe the dev team is working hard, but in the last three months there weren't a lot of seen results.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: November 07, 2017, 07:42:57 AM
It's 7th of November. So, what's new except a new logo on ccex?
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 20, 2017, 06:51:40 AM
What's the matter with you? Mihapiha only asked how many coins would be minted if someone invested 1 million USD. He is interested in the whole process of the mint. I hope he gets the official answer.

Don't bother. I asked the same question (page 173 i think) when financing was explained and rewards from mints were mentioned, but I haven't received an answer till this moment
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 19, 2017, 08:22:12 AM
What was the reason for such sudden rise in price? Webpage was published days ago, meetings went on continuosly during the last few months, no special marketing strategies were going on, there was no surge in marketcap which would mean one huge investor...

I am not looking for speculations, I'd just like to understand the movement behind all of this...
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 17, 2017, 07:30:27 AM
@mp777, @kovanec, @hope-crypto, when you started to be more positive, Xaurum start testing new higher prices...keep going guys.

And yes we all agree about road map, and devs be shure that they have it...but Xaurum concept want to become a big international company, with blockchain advatages with huge community and with his own perfect money( if you using it its worth more( burning coins with transaction fee) and if you "print" it it is worth more( growing gold base is faster than inflation-if market shows there is a need for inflation) with own perfect tourism and real estate ( Xaurum Gamma) and bealive me there will be much more.

Wait to new web site, I think it will be nice step foward.

Growing Xaurum price is a result of markets situation and not positive oriented attitude (which is still highly appretiated). Positive attitude is a result of some simple answers from DomenC, XaurumQA, kovanec and others, who're related to projects management or have some more intel informations. I agree with MP777 about the roadmap/projects longterm strategy

When are the meetings in Ljubljana? Could we have vlog? livestream?

Maybe it is good to contact team via new site... just suggestion..

This was a question for XaurumQA. I'm not interested in private meetings. If I can save some time of devteam and others I will.

When will we reach our bottom? Xaurum's currently at $0,14...
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 13, 2017, 09:32:11 AM
@mp777, @kovanec, @hope-crypto, when you started to be more positive, Xaurum start testing new higher prices...keep going guys.

And yes we all agree about road map, and devs be shure that they have it...but Xaurum concept want to become a big international company, with blockchain advatages with huge community and with his own perfect money( if you using it its worth more( burning coins with transaction fee) and if you "print" it it is worth more( growing gold base is faster than inflation-if market shows there is a need for inflation) with own perfect tourism and real estate ( Xaurum Gamma) and bealive me there will be much more.

Wait to new web site, I think it will be nice step foward.

Growing Xaurum price is a result of markets situation and not positive oriented attitude (which is still highly appretiated). Positive attitude is a result of some simple answers from DomenC, XaurumQA, kovanec and others, who're related to projects management or have some more intel informations. I agree with MP777 about the roadmap/projects longterm strategy

When are the meetings in Ljubljana? Could we have vlog? livestream?
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 12, 2017, 10:00:48 AM
@Mp777, thank you for a good reply for oldone.

When I kind of said the team lost their compass I meant it. I loved the original idea of Xaurum and I wanted it to grow bigger. With international magazines that were placing it amongst the biggest, Xaurum management had the perfect chance (and relatively easier job than today) for it to succeed and to stand in TOP10. The only thing they would have to do at that moment was to continue pushing Xaurum instead of bringing up XGamma too early. Now it's located as 144th on a CMC list and just as one of many others that copied their idea. Feels like they tried to shift gears @2000rpm. You're still talking about an influence?

Forum discussion is meant to bring up new questions or close them. If people are involved it creates a constructive discussions, brings topic upfront and invites new forum members that are curiously browsing the forum. Besides that, we're not speaking negatively, we're criticizing (there is a difference). We want the project to succeed not to fail (that's why we're mostly still holding Xaurums and not selling them). Situation is slowly becoming unbearable because the only Xaurum person actively involved is only XaurumQA who from time to time posts something instead of closing such sour discussion with diplomatic answer. Or seen results.

Price was never really an issue. If we'd seen some proper progress we'd have a guarantee the price would rise eventually instead of reading posts endings with "the only way is up", which seriously pisses me off. You call such quote a positive move?

Deadlines? We're talking about a project that if I'd gained a proper momentum would mean a secured retirement fund for the whole management. With great price comes great sacrifice. That's why we need results and hard labour.

Where is DomenC lately?

31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 11, 2017, 09:36:23 AM
hi)

can someone explain to me, why xaurum falls in price, and there was no mint for a long time?

thanks

read the last two pages and you'll get all the answers needed.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 11, 2017, 07:17:39 AM
I am still waiting for my answer regarding rewards...


....which brings me to my other question or concern... with no new mints there won't be any fresh money from rewards to charge Xaurums management mechanism. So, should new mints really wait till the price reaches its PP or not? or should "standards" be lowered? Someone was arguing me about other companies spending 70-80% of income mint values on management... I still can't figure out what's the percentage at Xaurum?! (waiting to be answered) I remember reading somewhere (paaaages back) that mint income is used only for gold backup and new coins, with no rewards mentioned. With rewards included people in charge are profiting from raising coin value (which they surely hold) + rewards (salaries). Were this rules changed in the meantime or am I wrong and missed the reward part?

@strongstorm, gold ratio doesn't mean a thing if you're not forced to burn your coins. Everyone's in this business to gain some profit, not invest and get 1/3 (or less) out of it. So your calculation makes no sense at all.

People are pissed because we were promised to see results in the beginning of August. Soon there will be November and there are still no results. Stop this agony or give us something.  

@zrjawkn... words words words... we're continuisely listening "tomorrow", "in the next days", "next month", "soon", etc... since August (or before).

33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 10, 2017, 06:41:53 AM
Don't listen to Koover he is scaring investors in many other discussions. You can check by your self. He wants to buy cheap Xaurum. And Koover... please do a litlle research! Xaurum has gold for stability and gamma is a help for Xaurum for constant mint in the future. They are perfect together. Winning combination on a long therm if your like it or not. Some facts:
- If you buy Xaurum for 0.17$ you have 30% backing with gold.
- This % is bigger every day because of burn feature.
- When gamma will fully operate there will be new mint all the time. We all know that that type of villa will be occupied all the time as every other villa in croatia is.
- Xaurums goal is to become fully automatic mechanism. In a few years it will be like a virus and no one won't be able to stop it!
 Dont panic and be patient! You will be rewarded Wink



Xaurum is getting locally oriented, that's why Koover is more right than you are, Ivanovski. Seems like the project wants to stay in it's micro location so it can be easily controlled and influenced. Or am I wrong? Such input will bring less mints with more steady growth, bigger backup in gold but no special recognition (or final value). You'll basically reach previously achieved $0.30 in the next year or so (speculations). If Xaurum wants to take such way it's pointless having meetings around the world. Why?

- they've build villas on Krk. It might be the nicest and easiest island to get to in Kvarner region, but you have Dalmatian region with Split, Makarska and Omiš 300km further south (nice highway connection). Krk has Baška, which is merely a village comparing to those gems. So why would anyone spend $$$/day in Villa that does not yet offer remote location (with silence), neither strong city backup (with it's beat and nightlife). Think of my writing as a critic.
- gold backing is a great idea, but in times of steady and boosting economy percentage should be lower comparing to the times of unstable economy when everyone would be glad to give bigger share for backup in case everything goes sour. Simple, right?
- autobroker is a local company that offers rental in XAUR or cash, while "XAUR only" is only for Lambo. You still need $$$ cover for the insurance. I assume they won't take XAUR as an insurance, right?
- burn percentage is microscopic... who's foolish enough to burn XAUR instead of selling it. Would you take 333€ if I offer you 1000€?
- Gamma won't operate all the time because there's no real mechanism behind it that won't allow exploitation of usage for potential investors/team/friends... I didn't invest in Gamma, but considering the fact the same team controls both projects this also concerns me

My previous question stays... how's with rewards... see page 170

Please guys, stop lying and fooling everyone. We're not as naive as some of you might think. I hope it won't be too late for team to realise why everyone believed in original Xaurum


34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 09, 2017, 11:01:17 AM
Hi XaurumQA,

Thank you for your explanation. Wice decision.

Question about funding still stands.

Hello!

It sure does, I am sorry it was not an intentional skip ☺ And thank you for raising this question, it is nice to see that people realize that we like any other company have expenses that need to be paid for.

Our funds come from Masternode reward at minting which is determined by a contract between Masternode and Auresco Institute.

Thank you for your concern.

Best,

XaurumQA


What's the formula for determining minting reward? I checked http://www.xaurum.org/mint.html but I can't figure out what should represent the formula (?!)//size of reward share?
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 06, 2017, 12:27:36 PM
Hi XaurumQA,

Thank you for your explanation. Wice decision.

Question about funding still stands.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 06, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
I see some flaw in Xaurum, which I'd like to speak about... What's the main source of funding of Xaurums team?
If I can speculate a current price of Xaurum I'd say the price was pumped, a lot of coins sold at c 0,30 to make a fund from which management pays its employees. We've also seen Domen Vidergar isn't a part of Xaurum team anymore, but represents Xaurum thru his own company GN2. What was the main issue for that?
What I introduced is only an idea and speculation on which as a "shareholder" I'd like to have some answers. I'm not interested into internal arrangements, only an idea behind everything.

I see some prospects in Xaurum, but with current and past strategy I don't see it as a "gold star" anymore.

I dont think you are right about things you said. Gn2 is new company where money is collected through masternode and Domen Vidergar is still in xaurum team as a sales manager. I don´t think price was pumped to 0,30 eur, I just think price went up naturally because there were mints almost evera 10 days and this was normal growth. Other questions will answer you xaurumqa, have you evered asked yourself how other coins are funding themselvs?Rising 10-20 millions of funds where do all funds go?Probably 20-30 % marketing, 50% devs and team, 10% for project probably.Think about that.

@gobbi Domen V. is not an issue at all. What concerns me is the fact that he was always represented as one of the three pillars of Xaurum team, when he suddenly represents a company called GN2 that carries out Xaurums marketing. Let's not forget he was also mentioned on photo concerning LONs ATMs as an owner of GN2 company, while Xaurum was mentioned more as a side info... (that eventually we'll be able to get Xaurums too)

The rest of question concerning funding stays.

PS: I'm not familiar with how much coding was behind Xaurums creation, that's why I'm not eligable to speak about the cost of creation. But considering my speculations are true difference between $0,30 and $0,16-0,18 is at least 40%. With current marketcap of $4,4mil. you can therefore calculate the difference they "gained". Furthermore you could speculate who're the biggest investors into Xaurum Gamma ICO, but that's way to ahead to speculate about. Although if I'm right it's been geniuselly done Smiley
+ I wouldn't mind if up to 20-30% of every mint would go for the devteam/management/PR.... It's a fair price. But still enough. Size of the company would grow with MC.

@Kastor, Xaurum still has the potential, but we'll have to see some different strategy

To note, I still hold a hefty amount of XAUR
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 06, 2017, 07:17:59 AM
Xaurum is out – People sell this worthless currency as soon as possible. Xaurum has not shown any progress for 4 months, his value is only falling, these are facts not lies !!!

Iam fallowing you and all posts yoi made were just about how bad xaurum is,you didn't write any orher posts,just in xaurum.What is your goal?If you don't like the project sell your xaurum (I don't believe you bought 1 single xaur) and go away from this forum.We don't need people like you here.

Maybe this guy lose lots of money when prices do drop and now hes cursing about xaur as a worthless currency.What a poor guy he d make such claims without even thinking on what he is saying.
I agree with that maybe he wants to buy it more cheaper...I don t see any other reason to write so much unreal claims about Xaurum

@zrjawkn we already know you're a Xaurum fanatic. No need for another post of yours if you can't read and comprehend other posts that are not so positive and criticize Xaurum team. People are angry because all we see are only words (and of course photos of supporting events, which are not a true value for Xaurum and act more as a social respresentation of people involved) and no change in value. Informations of Xaurum team touring around, renting a fancy cars... are more a waste of money than its responsible handling.

I see some flaw in Xaurum, which I'd like to speak about... What's the main source of funding of Xaurums team?
If I can speculate a current price of Xaurum I'd say the price was pumped, a lot of coins sold at c 0,30 to make a fund from which management pays its employees. We've also seen Domen Vidergar isn't a part of Xaurum team anymore, but represents Xaurum thru his own company GN2. What was the main issue for that?
What I introduced is only an idea and speculation on which as a "shareholder" I'd like to have some answers. I'm not interested into internal arrangements, only an idea behind everything.

I see some prospects in Xaurum, but with current and past strategy I don't see it as a "gold star" anymore.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: October 02, 2017, 09:17:42 AM

I completely agree with you.
It's funny to me when people compare price in BTC. There is nothing wrong with this to be clear if you are a daily trader. In that case what matters is price in BTC since most of coins are paired with BTC.
But most of us are not daily traders, so what we want to know is how much EUR/USD I put in and how much EUR/USD I will get out one day.
 


I'm not a daily trader... If I would put my money into BTC end of April instead of Xaurum I would have now triple value. With Xaurum I am at the same point as in April. At the same point in EUR/USD!!! So where is the benefit? No matter how you turn it EUR/USD/BTC...

A lot of promises were made in summer for September (for September that ended two days ago). What was that big thing? People here were promising high values in September and where are we now?
I know it takes time but guys, please STOP MAKING UNREALISTIC PROMISSES! If you sell Xaurum like this, no wonder people feel betrayed and are negative. If you would be more realistic the people wouldn't loose their patience so soon. In one official announcement you had a point for very professional sales force. For me this is not professional, if you promise things on this forum that are later not done. Is professional when you don't keep your promises? And don't make me search all those posts from the summer... Or are the guys selling Xaurum not giving official statements? How can we trust them anything in that case? I know you want it to succeed, but with such PR you make more bad in this forum as good. Also sales force commenting here should keep their nerves and be professional...

Agree with you 100%. With such PR and sales team this project is doomed. They're representing it to a casual people that are naive and lack a proper knowledge of trading. Or are they just building a huge pond of micro investors who're not familiar with daily trading and will keep Xaurum in their accounts? Either way, Xaurum isn't what I hoped it will be one day. Get rid of your sales manager, bring new people with fresh ideas to PR, and make some noticable progress finally. We need strong and big investors, not small fishes. Act big, become big!

Xaurum, might be unique in cryptoworld, but it's just a mere copy of idea that brought to life USD. Let's just hope it'll get as big as USD one day ?!
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: September 07, 2017, 10:11:34 AM

I believe Xaurum will raise when people will realize that most of cryptocurrency world right now stands on thin air. Now is time og big cows... when this will end it will be the same problem like with stock market back in 2008 when everything collapsed and people lost approximately 80% of their money invested in stock market. When big cows will end, people will strive for projects like xaurum is, becouse here you have real asset behind...

Agree with you but it looks like people are looking for pumped air and investing thousands of eur in cryptos they don´t know even the name.By the time people will realise how good xaurum is.
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Asset don't mean a thing in a time of big cows. Realise that. While Xaurum was more or less standing still for the last three months (or even dumping its value), people made fortunes with other cryptos. With those "fortunes" they could easily buy more Xaurums if ever in need of backup asset, which is currently pretty low to be honest. Just like the ones who sold Xaurum for $0.30+ did...

If xaurum team is trying to stay out of a pump'n'dump sandbox they should change their gameplay and somehow faster achieve introduction to new markets.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xaurum [XAUR] on: August 25, 2017, 10:56:45 AM
yep it's clearly a good price for now to rebuy. I always like the concept of gold & bitcoin. Some people have receive some gold or? It's not that the ROI of Xaurum?

It depends how you see it. I don't see it as ROI, but rather than worst case scenario value.
I take ROI as every sell above buying price. But I'm not selling now. Rather buying.

Actually it can be a matter of perception.
So what do others think?
What represents ROI to you?
-Every sell above buying price
-When value of gold behing xaurum is higher than buying price of Xaurum


agree with you!

For me ROI means if I buy Xaurums for 14 cents and sell them for 17 cents... that means 3 cents ROI, not metter how much gold is behind. But when your start golden price reach your invested money, you are in safe harbour. Example: If price of Xaurum today is 15 cents and there is 6 cents of gold behind that xaurum... that means when there will be 15 cents of gold and market price cca 30 cents I will be 100% sure that I cannot go uder my invested price 15 cents since there is gold behind worth at least 15 cents.


Good example... I bought it when the price was 0.05 cents... so I'm all over covered by gold..

Really nice to hear that. I think there is a lot of people like you, but they are not here on forum. They drink beer in Croatia, relxed, becouse they know they have made huge profit with Xaurum already. (:


And thats right, because the summer is time to go on holiday and get relaxed, and gather new powers for future  Wink

There's no time-off/holidays in business world
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