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21  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 19, 2020, 05:19:04 PM
Your triangle looks kinda broken to me
22  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 19, 2020, 04:02:10 PM
Welcome to Bitcoin, where every single market movement is completely non-aggregate 10 years straight, 365 days a year, and looks like a slide from some type of economics 101 class labeled "this is what a pump and dump scam looks like".
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2020, 02:26:11 PM
Message to r0ach:

LFC_Bitcoin just sent me 0.00587140 BTC (the equivalent of around $50). He doesn't know who I am. I don't know who he is. We did not have to register to any site or server. No one, I repeat, NO ONE, could stop this transaction from happening. Even if one miner refused to confirm it for some reason, there are thousands more who would. There were no intermediaries. No company or bank to allow or deny it. He cannot take it back. No one can. He was the sole owner of that amount. He transferred ownership to me. Now I am the sole owner of that amount. He did this from (probably) thousands of miles away from me. He did not have to send anything by mail. It happened over the air. Electronically. It took less than half an hour. It cost less than $0.40. It will stay in the Blockchain forever. That's Bitcoin.

Standard lying scammer or idiot post.  You can't even use the internet itself without "intermediaries", so your statement was already garbage out of the gate, and Bitcoin just adds even more rent seeking middlemen and intermedaries on top of that in the form of centralized transaction validators, nodes, and everything else.  We won't even touch upon the centralized 'development' aka dictator, while physical metals have no need of a 'developer' aka dictator.  If it was 'decentralized' there would be no developer at all.

Secondly, you did not receive any money because money is required to be a physical commodity resource.  Claiming something is 'good' because it can be sent over a telephone line is a joke.  He could have just as easily sent you an email.  Is an email 'money'?  No.  Neither is a Bitcoin.  It's just a worthless timestamp.  How many commodities do you know of that can be sent over telephone lines?  None.  People lie and claim Bitcoin is a commodity when it's obviously not.

Money is required to be both fungible and a commodity.  Bitcoin is neither.  You can look at it as a system of control designed to track and monitor anyone who uses it, or valueless timestamps, or an extremely primitive video game, but that's about it.  Nothing about it correlates to anything in the realm of commodities or money.  It can be a currency since all currencies are Keynesian scams based on artificial scarcity that start at a value of zero and inevitably return there, but that's about it.
what are you doing in this forum wasting your time?

Why are you scared of your lies and scams being exposed?  Afraid Bitcoin has zero fundamentals with zero chance of defeating physical metals?
24  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2020, 01:59:31 PM
Message to r0ach:

LFC_Bitcoin just sent me 0.00587140 BTC (the equivalent of around $50). He doesn't know who I am. I don't know who he is. We did not have to register to any site or server. No one, I repeat, NO ONE, could stop this transaction from happening. Even if one miner refused to confirm it for some reason, there are thousands more who would. There were no intermediaries. No company or bank to allow or deny it. He cannot take it back. No one can. He was the sole owner of that amount. He transferred ownership to me. Now I am the sole owner of that amount. He did this from (probably) thousands of miles away from me. He did not have to send anything by mail. It happened over the air. Electronically. It took less than half an hour. It cost less than $0.40. It will stay in the Blockchain forever. That's Bitcoin.

Standard lying scammer or idiot post.  You can't even use the internet itself without "intermediaries", so your statement was already garbage out of the gate, and Bitcoin just adds even more rent seeking middlemen and intermedaries on top of that in the form of centralized transaction validators, nodes, and everything else.  We won't even touch upon the centralized 'development' aka dictator, while physical metals have no need of a 'developer' aka dictator.  If it was 'decentralized' there would be no developer at all.

Secondly, you did not receive any money because money is required to be a physical commodity resource.  Claiming something is 'good' because it can be sent over a telephone line is a joke.  He could have just as easily sent you an email.  Is an email 'money'?  No.  Neither is a Bitcoin.  It's just a worthless timestamp.  How many commodities do you know of that can be sent over telephone lines?  None.  People lie and claim Bitcoin is a commodity when it's obviously not.

Money is required to be both fungible and a commodity.  Bitcoin is neither.  You can look at it as a system of control designed to track and monitor anyone who uses it, or valueless timestamps, or an extremely primitive video game, but that's about it.  Nothing about it correlates to anything in the realm of commodities or money.  It can be a currency since all currencies are Keynesian scams based on artificial scarcity that start at a value of zero and inevitably return there, but that's about it.
25  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2020, 01:37:12 PM
JayJuanGoyim, physical metals never stopped being the base of the economic system.  Even Max Keiser the #1 Bitcoin shill admits it.  All that really happened is some people were fooled into accepting imaginary coupons, timestamps, or paper for payment instead of metals.  It's just a situation where anyone holding things like paper or timestamps is swimming naked and think they have money but they have nothing and are walking dead broke.  'Swimming naked' works for a while until it doesn't.
26  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 17, 2020, 01:38:56 AM
The value of gold and silver is not the Comex price, you fools.  Assuming gold and silver were the base of the monetary system with 40% traditional backing and 260 trillion global debt, the price of gold would need to be around 30-40x what it is now ($45,000 - $60,000) with silver at astronomical prices of $900-$3000 (minimum 50:1, maximum 20:1 GSR).
27  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2020, 10:58:06 PM

How many times do I have to explain to you noobs that opt-in mixing will just be classified by the government as identical to money laundering so if you use it, you're just flagging yourself to be hauled off to jail.  Fungibility cannot be opt-in you fucking idiots!  It has to be an inherent property of every transaction, which is the antithesis of 'blockchain' since storing a permanent history of everything makes them non-fungible by default.  

Unless you get into bizarro world, zero knowledge proofs, which just bring even more problems to the equation than they actually solve.  Everything digital is an exercise in idiocy when physical metals already solve all of these problems from decentralization, to throughput, fungibility, privacy, and everything else.  'Bitcoin' is NOT money.  Anything 'blockchain' is nothing more than a system of control.  But just like vampires can't come in if you don't let them, Bitcoin has no power over you unless you agree to use it instead of metals.
28  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2020, 08:39:22 PM
Well..there is no such thing as a free lunch tho

There's no free lunch for honest people.  But dishonest or morally bankrupt people can participate in unsustainable scams like Bitcoin and make off with a free lunch and then leave someone else holding the bag when it implodes.  The fact virtually every single PoW coin that's existed has died or is on life support pretty much tells you how this is going to play out.  

People like Gavin Andresen know this bullshit is designed to centralize with zero fundamentals making it a scam - as well as any imaginary widget based on artificial scarcity is a Keynesian scam in general - yet people like that try to opt out of any responsibility by saying "don't buy more than you can afford to lose", and think that makes his hands clean of being a scammer while still hyping it.  It doesn't.  Participating in scams makes you a scammer by default.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2020, 03:29:34 PM
Just spent an hour educating myself on Bitcoin entropy inspired by a r0ach post, haha. Picked up a couple gems from here anyway.
https://medium.com/the-bitcoin-times/bitcoins-eternal-struggle-2c197f1bafd8
I liked the argument that BTC is mostly informational however nonetheless physical which negates r0aches claim that it's imaginary.

That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard in my life.  There's no such thing as a physical Bitcoin.  Stop being bamboozled by charlatans trying to equate Bitcoin to something it isn't.  Bitcoin is 'cloud banking' - a virtual breadloaf in the cloud that never leaves 'the cloud'.  You claim to own a slice of it but you really don't because you're required to ask permission to a rent seeking middleman (transaction validator) to do anything with it.  It's not possible for anything to be decentralized unless you act as your own transaction validator, otherwise you're a peon child having your life controlled by a tyrannical government overlord or Jewish moneychanger.

I don't have to ask permission to anyone to do something with a silver coin in my hand.  This is why the only possible way you can actually solve 'decentralization' in Bitcoin is through unprofitable PoW where everyone acts as their own transaction validator.  There is then no incentive for a middleman structure to form who is your new ruler.  This is how PoW for email originally functioned - unprofitable - then scammers and retards altered it's function entirely to be profitable pretending it will still work the same.  But unprofitable PoW requires artificial convergence, making it 100% impossible to create a decentralized digital shitcoin.

Altering email PoW to be profitable turns it into nothing more than a compound interest system.  No work is actually being done in 'proof of work'.  You have hardware on cruise control autopilot while you sit back and collect interest, then use the money to buy even more miners collecting even more interest.  It's sort of designed to generate an unsustainable bubble then implode.  So PoW itself is literally a Ponzi scam because it acts as a compound interest system in reality, then the halvings are another Ponzi scam layered on top of that.  Bitcoin is designed from the ground up as a scam to increase then catastrophically implode.
30  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2020, 12:47:21 AM


31  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 16, 2020, 12:19:32 AM
gold bugs denigrating BTC and even putting out a lot of bullshit arguments

JayJuanGee, can you turn down that bass drum jungle music and go back to Africa?
32  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 11:41:27 PM
Trollgoossen, it is very difficult to have any sort of positive outcome with a wahmen when the goal of a wahmen is to take all of your free time and resources and divert every waking hour and dollar into funneling it into something to either benefit them or for their amusement.  It's like agreeing to have your life run by a 10 year old.  We live in some sort of sick society that claims men are predators when any type of predatory behavior by men is illegal, but predatory females are everywhere you look.

If you're a billionaire or something you can ignore the money part, but that doesn't even help because women are designed to be predators.  People who are wealthy all the time talk about how if their wife sees them laying on the couch relaxing - even if they give their wife like thousands of dollars per day - the wife becomes upset and constantly walks around passive aggresive and sighing because they want every second of the man's time to be devoted to doing something to benefit them and none for himself.

You are not allowed to pursue any of your own interests when dealing with a wahmen.  You might get away with it for a while, but then the wahmen's subconscious tells them the man is not benefiting them enough, and then they go "monkeybranching" attempting to find a better servant.  I'm sure you've seen wahmen say things like "real men should not play video games or do so and so".  The definition of "real man" to a wahmen is simply someone who acts as a resource for them.  They don't give a damn about video games, it's just they don't want you doing anything any hour of the day that doesn't benefit them.
33  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 10:57:11 PM
Trollgoossens, where did that charming young lady Cryptobimbo go?  She was at least a solid 4 post-transitioning.
34  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 10:51:41 PM
realr0ach writes what he writes because (I imagine) his experiences with BTC have not been good, and he no longer wants to speculate/invest in it.  Or he has changed his view due to circumstances.  Still he does like to poke BTC-ers in the eye with a stick (LOL).

1)  It's impossible to make a decentralized digital currency since transaction validators are always designed to centralize.  If you have non-fungible tokens and centralized transaction validators, there is no possible endgame evolution besides being an exact replica of the Chinese social credit score system.  Promoting Bitcoin is then nothing more than promoting your own enslavement in some sort of extreme dystopia.

2)  The fundamentals of imaginary, valueless timestamps whose value is supposed to be derived from decentralization but is designed to centralize is zero.

3)  The ability for imaginary, valueless timestamps to displace physical metals as the base of Exter's Pyramid is zero.

4)  Any type of imaginary widget based on artificial scarcity is a Keynesian scam.  Money is required to be a physical commodity resource.  It's also required to be fungible.  It's not even possible for Bitcoin to be fungible by mixing outputs because Bitcoin is designed to facilitate entropy while real money (physical metals) is designed to resist it.  Money is supposed to be a constant and not change.
35  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 03:41:10 PM
TLDR:  Hyperdeflation is just as bad as hyperinflation.  Neither functions for a real world economic system.

Due to halvings and the amount of coins lost through strong encryption, Bitcoin is not deflationary but hyperdeflationary, and doesn't work to price literally ANYTHING in.  Sounds great for pump and dump scammers, but if nothing can even be legitimately priced in Bitcoin at all, it doesn't have an actual use case and the price eventually goes to zero when little of the market or vendors utilize it for anything.  

There are stories of post offices having metal engraved signs on the wall for the postage price with the numerical value being the same for decades under gold and silver standards.  Can you ever imagine such a thing for Bitcoin?  It's laughable and virtually impossible for metals to not defeat Bitcoin.  The biggest valuation factor of money is ability to provide price stability, NOT be a pump and dump tool.
36  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 03:24:59 PM
Stock-to-flow model.

"Stock to flow" does not apply to Ponzi scams.  I don't know if any of you noobs understand economics at all - and I wasn't there to personally witness the event or personally audit all the bookkeeping - but the great depression involved a liquidity deficit.  Some claim it was an engineered depression by the banks, others claim it's not; who knows, that doesn't matter for this discussion.  What matters is that if Bitcoin was actually the unit of account of anything (I.E. the world reserve currency and everything is priced in Bitcoin), the halving itself is a liquidity implosion similar to the great depression.

With Bitcoin not being the unit of account of anything it doesn't really matter because it just functions as a meaningless pump and dump scam, but if you actually tried to price everything in the world in Bitcoin it would be laughable. What type of "monetary system" do you know of where every vendor on the planet needs to massively adjust all their prices every four years?  None exists because anything with such stupid mechanics always dies because anything operating with such dynamics is a Ponzi scam.  The purpose of a monetary unit is to provide price stability, not be unstable by default.

In terms of having an actual functioning economic system, the 'halving' is a monetary crisis, not some sort of benefit.  The only people who view it as beneficial are pump and dump scammers hoping it allows them to make money off algorithmically designed, large volatility.  If Bitcoin was designed to actually be useful as a unit of account for something instead of a Ponzi scam, the block reward would be static eternally.  The government creators of Bitcoin who want it to function as a cashless society slavery system where everything you do is monitored in real-time knew it would be impossible to try and get anyone to use Bitcoin with an infinite, static block reward over metals, so they designed it as a get rich quick scheme, Ponzi scam to later be adjusted or replaced when it eventually fails due to having no use case beyond a pump and dump scam.
37  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 15, 2020, 12:45:09 PM
It's almost as if every single thing r0ach has ever said about Jews is true:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gulags-werent-bad-sanders-staffer-says-trump-supporters-will-need-be-re-educated-camps
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2020, 10:34:17 PM
JayJuanGee, as a seasoned investigator and expert on most fields, another important question:  who killed Keith Ratliff?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUg1rs_GgU
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2020, 08:37:26 PM
JayJuanGee, as the most intelligent person in the thread, what is your explanation for why Trump only wants to invade countries not controlled by Jewish usury banks such as North Korea and Iran?
40  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2020, 07:36:47 PM
'sup with Roach, btw.?

Where my Nazis at
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