You do not have a gaming license, so what are you doing here?
We have been around the crypto space for more than 3 years. If so, why you do not have a gaming license then? If you operate your site without a license, it is illegal. Or are you based in Costa Rica? The more this question is avoided, the more likely my thought is correct. Just say it mbet.io: Do you have a gambling license or not? |
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~snip~ Everything in the general terms and conditions applies, unless stated otherwise. Simple as that. I really recommend that you draw up the correct general terms and conditions and discuss this with a lawyer, for example. They have experience in this.
They have stated they have a Lawyer who has directed them on how the T0S should be laid out. Portions of it are in place for the future if they change their model to allow Fiat deposits - which come with different regulatory requirements. So for anyone concerned about providing KYC, there are a few options. Don't play if you legitimately wouldn't be willing to provide KYC documents for a jackpot size prize pool, or to clarify security scrutiny. That's your choice same as it is their choice to apply the terms they state in varying degrees up to everything they state at that time. The thing about ToS, is that it can be applied at their discretion. So what you have seen is the conditions they can apply, as well as their explanation here about how they intend to apply them. They've been pretty clear about that (suspicion of fraud, Prizes of a large size that they require regulatory scrutiny) by providing several examples across several replies to try and clarify it. For anyone who is comfortable providing KYC within the conditions stated, it seems there wouldn't be a problem. In the meantime I would continue to watch for any updates regarding ToS, and the services they offer. I wouldn't expect much to change, until a time they incorporate Fiat payment options. I am really surprised why so many people are still interested in this site, which has made a mess of it since the begin. I've been keeping a close eye on this topic from post number 1. So they have a lawyer? Then explain to me that they have already adjusted the general terms and conditions 20 times and that they contained fraudulent things all the time that need to be adjusted? The supply from excluded countries was also incorrect. Still not correct by the way. Only amateurs work this way. There is not a single attorney in the world who would draft this or agree to this. It was a mess at Betnomi from the start, and it still is. What a nonsense story about that KYC by the way. You either have a KYC or you don't. There is no middle ground. |
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You do not have a gaming license, so what are you doing here?
We have been around the crypto space for more than 3 years. If so, why you do not have a gaming license then? If you operate your site without a license, it is illegal. Or are you based in Costa Rica? |
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You do not have a gaming license, so what are you doing here?
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@betnomi
It's not about who I am, but it's what I write. And what I'm writing is based on comments from existing players who have reported that your site's limits were $ 30. Some even said that the limit was 10 eur.
Since you're putting this post aside like that, the only reason I can conclude is that you're not taking your existing customers seriously and disrespecting their comments. This was written weeks ago, and you still haven't solved this.
When will the limits become clear BEFORE someone wants to place a bet? Those stories of 10k and 100k is of course a fairy tale, you only write that in the hope that people will deposit a lot of money.
To then only be able to use it for 30 eur. I thought you would have learned a thing or two from your arrogant attitude on the forum, but you can't communicate.
By the way, those 4 negative trusts you got say enough anyway. That's a sign that respect members with high status don't trust you at all.
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Why don't you guys stop talking to this trash can and talk about relevant stuff.
For example:
We've already had a few users who have complained about the limits. That they could only bet 30 eur per match. Why are you lying about bets of 10-100k that would be possible?
Pure deception and only written so that players deposit large amounts and then can only bet with 30 eur. what a joke!
Why are you telling the limits are 10-100k while they are just 30 eur? please, stop lying.
Can we know the reason why you keep telling the limits are 10-100k while users complaint already that the limits are 30 eur? Does Betconstruct know that you are providing false information about that? They will not be happy with this, as it is also their concern. Please be honest and admit that the limits are just 30 eur for betting. |
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Why don't you guys stop talking to this trash can and talk about relevant stuff.
For example:
We've already had a few users who have complained about the limits. That they could only bet 30 eur per match. Why are you lying about bets of 10-100k that would be possible?
Pure deception and only written so that players deposit large amounts and then can only bet with 30 eur. what a joke!
Why are you telling the limits are 10-100k while they are just 30 eur? please, stop lying.
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^ Checking the website, I don't see any difference in comparison to other online betting sites but the mere fact of knowing that this has already existed since 2001 then I think Betonline can be trusted too same as with Betway which I have been using for years now. In addition, they have this NO KYC rule which can protect the real identity of players like us. However, having a $100,000 maximum payout per week will be the concern of players though it will not be necessary most of the time as a bettor, we must also need security on our possible winnings. Nevertheless, with the license, I also agree with Yogee you can gain the trust of more bettors if you will post your license for additional.
It is a lie what they say. Even if they have a valid license, then they are obliged to request kyc from each player after a certain amount. Sites that write that kyc is not needed are fraudulent and cheating. And if you do have a license, why not publish it? This site is completely wrong. Cheap scam. |
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Would you mind if I ask if you have license?
I think they would mind about that, since they do not have a license at all. Or probably another Costa Rica scam site. Every company in Curacao is forced to ask for KYC. If they tell they do not, they are lying and pure fraud. So I assume they are not based in Curacao, and have a company license in Costa Rica. Costa Rica does not have gambling licenses, since gambling there is not regulated and there are no laws for it. Which mean companies will run with your money. |
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It is maybe complicated, but Cloudbet scammed many people for enormous amounts. I would say: just pay this customer the last deposit back and case closed.
The fact that he made some other accounts is not good and complicated, but that is not a reason to confiscate the money. They can return it easily. I think that they are not even allowed to take it.
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he is lucky i am not the one he scammed. i will have spammed your thread with info about your scam every few hours. and spam all forums till everyone is aware that you are a thief
That is a good idea actually. We have to make sure people are warned so they can not make anymore victims. |
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We have just submitted our 6 page, 2100 word report with 27 screenshots to the mediator. They have many cases to rule on and this one has an enormous amount of information, so we ask for your patience while this is resolved. It is also possible they will need some additional information from either us or the OP prior to making a ruling. We will update the community with the results. Thank you.
What about handing over this document to the relevant player. You are really a joke whit this nonsense information. In any case, you have to pay him the money back, thief. |
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BETBTC:
can you explain to us why you do not hold a valid gaming license?
Costa Rica does not have Gaming licenses. They only provide data processing license, which can be used by a restaurant as well.
Shame on you!
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Looks like they keep on scamming, after the last scam as well, which one was around 2k.
When will this fraud organization be stopped? Or maybe the clown hhamphuz will step in again and defending this scam bookie.
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The limits on this site are a joke. As the Operator has stated, limits of 10-100k ARE NOT TRUE. We have already seen several users who claim that there are limits of 10-30 euros. The only reason Betnomi is writing this is because they hope that there will be High rollers who will put in a lot. Or rather, put a lot of thought into thinking. Then the money has arrived at Betnomi. They are not allowed to set any limits at all, this is a Betconstruct platform. It is a well-known way of misleading gamblers: Promise higher bets, but if you have deposited you can only bet 40 euros. Lousy site and a lousy campaign.
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Having been involved with abuse-handling work in the past, I know that sometimes, that can be tantamount to writing an instruction manual on “How To NOT GET CAUGHT Next Time”. What Betcoin themselves said on Page 1 is reasonable, on that particular point.
is there a security reason for them not to exactly specify the balance of my account (if there is a chance that mediator will find me not guilty and i should get my btc back) ? is there a security reason for them not to release the list of bets that i took at this account, to prove that i was abusing their limits, as they say? I mean i took those bets, i already know them ... i lost BIG on them, so i kinda remember them  why dont they just release them to the public and show my "abusive behavior" ? I will tell you why - because they made a mistake about this situation. There is nothing in the world they can show that can prove that the two accounts in question belong to me. Thats why they claim the betting pattern as ONE of the indicators i was abusing, but they will NOT SHOW it here stating security reason, which is ONE BIG BS, as IF the accounts in question are both mine, than i would know all the bets in both of them ... IT JUST DOESNT ADD UP, and THEY KNOW IT Their point is not reasonable. Not even close to reasonable. They just used this "Argument" as reason since now they claim they do not have to display any information towards you. We will all know how this will end. SBR will tell it is fraud and that they can take your funds and keep it. The truth is actually, that they can NEVER take your funds. Reagrding to the gaming commission, they are forced to give you the deposit back. Of course they are going to say now that they are forced to hold the deposits, for investigation. This is not true. They must give the deposit back. If I were you, I would find a lawyer and take them to court. The gambling commission is more strict since this year, so they will act harder if they see a website is messing around. Spoken about fraud: Their terms are fraud since their allowed countries are not correct. Make screenshots of that and write an email to their gambling license issuer. If you do not have their contact details, I have. I do not need any money for this, I just want justice and sites like Betcoin.ag must be stopped. |
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Betcoin rather pays trash like Hhampuz to defend them rather than actually show proof here.
I mean its proven that he is working for them.
Thats what scam sites do.
MAASDAMER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT I can confirm that Hhamphuz is being bribed by a number of gambling sites to defend their reputation. Hhamphuz is abusing its DT user status. I'm also pretty sure his trusts have been bought. Hhamphuz is a disgrace to the forum and is a manipulator and a first class pancake. Duelbits is also a big scam gang, as is Betcoin.ag. I dismantled them in their topic, but Hhamphuz didn't like that much and then I got a negative trust from him. Is it possible to make an accusation against Hhamphuz to make sure he will lose his DT leverl? People like him, do not belong in the DT list, since they abuse this system. Impressive how many clowns can fit in one car, although not too surprising. The biggest clown is a manager from Betcoin and is getting paid to defend them. And is also abusing the trust system. Since you decided to give me negative trust, I will promise you that you will not get away with this and I am going to fight for it that you will be pushed away from the DT level, since you abuse the system. Besides that, about the betcoin.ag site. They just look like to steal the money here, nothing has to be sent about it. If it is fraud, return the deposits to him. But dont return to much, otherweise you can not pay hhamphuz anymore to defend your scam site. Looks like Nullius is now also hired to defend Betcoin.ag Time to give hem a neg trust? |
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Betcoin rather pays trash like Hhampuz to defend them rather than actually show proof here.
I mean its proven that he is working for them.
Thats what scam sites do.
MAASDAMER IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT I can confirm that Hhamphuz is being bribed by a number of gambling sites to defend their reputation. Hhamphuz is abusing its DT user status. I'm also pretty sure his trusts have been bought. Hhamphuz is a disgrace to the forum and is a manipulator and a first class pancake. Duelbits is also a big scam gang, as is Betcoin.ag. I dismantled them in their topic, but Hhamphuz didn't like that much and then I got a negative trust from him. Is it possible to make an accusation against Hhamphuz to make sure he will lose his DT leverl? People like him, do not belong in the DT list, since they abuse this system. |
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Why do you not have a gambling license? I can not find any details about your organization as well.
Please provide us information so gamblers have the right to know where they are playing.
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It would be better if you make some better posts, and not only posting flyers day in day out. By the way:
"One thread per site ONLY"
Follow the rules, please.
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