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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 10, 2013, 12:08:45 PM
Following the incident reported by Doron404 below, here is a summary of what transpired (timestamp in UTC +13hrs):

09-12-2013 8:41:42
I received an escrow request from Doron404 (buyer) for an MSC trade with Peezr (seller) worth a total of 2.88 BTC

09-12-2013 11:51:46
I sent out a PM to buyer & seller containing Trade Details based on information received from Doron404 through the escrow form. The Trade Details PM requested both parties to verify that the information contained therein was correct, and if so to proceed according to the instructions.

Escrow address given was: 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF

09-12-2013, 14:50:35
I received a PM from Doron404 asking what happened to the BTC which he just sent to xxx since the MSC has not been delivered.

09-12-2013, 14:55:57
I received a PM from Doron404 asking if escrow address was xxx, suspecting that Peezr had swapped the escrow address with the BTC receiving address when replying with a quote.

09-12-2013, 15:27:42
I sent PM to Doron404 confirming that the escrow address was 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF as per my original PM, but has been swapped by the seller. This was said based on the quote from Peezr embedded in Doron404's PM to me.

Who is liable for this loss?
In my Trade Details PM, I requested both parties to use the "Reply to All" button when communicating, so that the entire conversation regarding a particular trade can be easily tracked by all parties. I did not foresee this potential exploit, and hence did not warn users to refer to original PM when sending to escrow.

I have successfully executed 93 escrow trades totalling 682.76 BTC using this this system before this incident.
If there is consensus amongst the community that I am liable, I am prepared to compensate Doron404 for this scam.

I would also like to announce that I will be ceasing to act as an escrow agent in this thread with immediate effect.

Pouncer

I have temporarily disabled the escrow request form until we resolve this issue. We don't want anyone else to be a victim.  


2) Please use escrow service provided by Maxmint and Pouncer.

He did, but Peezr changed the escrow address to his personal address very sneaky.

Huh How? I assume the escrow address is PMed by Maxmint or Pouncer. How could Peezr change it?

Moreover, if he did so, then we should report to the moderator and ban his account immediately.

I believe he replied all, and in quotes he changed the escrow address to his address, and Doron probably copied the escrow address from peezr's PM instead of the original pouncers message
exactly.
No don't do that. If pouncer agrees, I'd like to reimburse him. My account is the one who has gotten hacked. I changed my password so futurely hope it doesn't happen again.
I don't know if you're telling the truth now,
but I'd still like my coins back!

I was pm'ing with peezer for 2-3 days
before the trade, Was I talking with the thief all this time?

BitThink, I have the thief's final address,
but would it really help to post it? He can
easily make a new one.

22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 09, 2013, 11:11:57 AM
I guess I should have written don’t trade with peezr period.

- Warning -
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I wanted to trade with peezr 20 MSC @ 0.11 yesterday.

He offered not to use an escrow in order to save time and to start with a small trade of 1 MSC @ 0.11.

I sent the 0.11 BTC to this address: 19nJ1YSGAew2bzvvTCmKVRmBY4FtF216hB

He said he received the 0.11 BTC but never transferred the 1 MSC.

Than he stopped all communication - I have evidence of all the discussion in Gmail. The Gmail he used is:  Tarren Smith ‫‎<beautyinthemidwest@gmail.com>‎‬

Watch out and don’t trade with him without escrow.

Afterwards I traded with smiley35 and Faraday – Maxmint was the escrow and everything went great. (Maxmint is doing great job)

Lesson learnt – DON’T trade without Escrow.

Better be safe than sorry.





Now you tell me ... Sad

Problem is, Even using Escrew didn't help!
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 09, 2013, 05:25:22 AM
Place a sell order for up to 150 at .138

Thanks
Beware of Newly created users Selling.  Shocked
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 09, 2013, 05:21:28 AM

2) Please use escrow service provided by Maxmint and Pouncer.

He did, but Peezr changed the escrow address to his personal address very sneaky.

Huh How? I assume the escrow address is PMed by Maxmint or Pouncer. How could Peezr change it?

Moreover, if he did so, then we should report to the moderator and ban his account immediately.

I believe he replied all, and in quotes he changed the escrow address to his address, and Doron probably copied the escrow address from peezr's PM instead of the original pouncers message
exactly.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 09, 2013, 03:11:20 AM
Warning! Don't deal with "Peezr"!!! He's a scammer!!!
He just stole 2.88 BTC from me !  Undecided
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 03, 2013, 12:16:57 PM
is peezr really selling mastercoins for 0.11? if so I will buy them, if not, take him off the order book!

peezr is not a serious seller. he contacted me three times yesterday, but failed to complete the deal. so, if you are a honest person, just finish the dear!
 Huh
same here...

He was also talking to me about the sell, and disappeared after. :S
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: December 01, 2013, 10:37:18 AM
sell order of 20msc with price of 0.11 per
I'll take those.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Trading Thread for Nxt :: Descendant of Bitcoin on: November 29, 2013, 11:41:06 PM
Looking to buy 1M for 0.8BTC.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Protoshare Giveaway on: November 26, 2013, 09:22:36 AM
I'd love to get some too Smiley
PZ3AjHZvck1ZXCUhHrkZhUB6scKHfj8dAx
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 25, 2013, 04:39:55 PM
please remove my buy order from the book. I've already bought a couple of days ago.
Please add me to the order book for (buy order) 120 MSC for 0.15 BTC each, thank you!
Please add a buy order of 50 MSC @ 0.17 = 8.5 BTC

Order book updated.

Please remove my sell of 20 @ 0.24 from the order book

Please add buy 2 @ 0.0165

Please add sell 18 @ 0.029

Thanks

0.029? or 0.29?

Yes, not sure if this is a typo – BTC-Market, please clarify.
BTC-Market, please clarify.

He clearly ment
"Please add buy 2 @ 0.165

Please add sell 18 @ 0.29"
Nobody's so crazy to sell at 0.02 now Tongue
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 23, 2013, 03:15:48 PM
Do those Dev. coins (TMSC) have any real value?

I think you are confusing Test Mastercoin with Development Mastercoin. Test Mastercoin's have no value and are considered only valuable for testing purposes. Development Mastercoins are real Mastercoin which are being vested over time to be used for bounties etc.

Oh, I thought they were the same  Grin
and the reason I ask is, I saw in the D.Exchange tests,
there are tx's that payed real BTC for TMSC.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 23, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
Do those Dev. coins (TMSC) have any real value?
33  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Proposal for Standardizing the Distribution Rate of Dev MSC via the MSC Protocol on: November 23, 2013, 02:47:14 AM
I think perhaps it is time to convert more of our BTC to MSC. I'd rather have MSC in a rainy day fund than BTC anyway. As you say, giving away BTC attacts people more interested in BTC, and I'd rather the foundation hold MSC than BTC.

Here's my crazy proposal:

1) Keep only the 1000 BTC we've already moved into offline wallets
2) Use the remainder of our BTC to purchase MSC over the next few months on the distributed exchange
3) Pay all future bounties exclusively in MSC
4) Keep half of our MSC money for a rainy day and/or future distributed bounty system
5) If our rainy day fund becomes excessive, we can always vote to lower the ratio later

I realize that this would potentially make all of our existing investors absurdly wealthy, but, well, the stated purpose of the Mastercoin Foundation is to serve the holders of Mastercoins, and I'm having a hard time seeing this course of action as anything but a huge positive for them, as long as we do it transparently and over a long enough period of time that nobody who wants to sell to us is left out.

Also, MSC prices would probably go up to the point where I'd sell 1% and quit my job to work on MSC, which I hope would also be in the best interests of our investors. Smiley



+1
Great Idea!
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 18, 2013, 10:22:38 PM
Any ETA for the D.Exchange Windows Client?
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 15, 2013, 07:48:42 PM
Sorry maxmint,

Can you please change my order for 40 mastercoins to sell for 0.2489 instead ?

Cheers Smiley
Sorry maxmint,

Can you please change my order for 40 mastercoins to sell for 0.2489 instead ?

Cheers Smiley
There are few buyers looking to buy @ 0.25
Have you tried contacting them?
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 15, 2013, 06:55:30 PM
I'm selling 32 @ .249, can you put me on the list?
I'll take those.
Max will you ESCROW us ? Smiley
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: November 13, 2013, 10:30:26 PM
can someone put up an order for 100 at .25?

Buy or sell?
He's buying.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 25, 2013, 03:34:43 PM
I'm genuinely amused at whoever posted that sell order on my behalf. That was pretty funny Smiley

(Yeah, it wasn't me. Just a prank by someone.)

I've pulled WAY too many pranks in my life to complain.

I recently got a PM from somebody asking how to get an order on the book when they can't PM in the forum. Can one of you guys post something in the order book about how to contact you for people who aren't on the forum? Maybe a slightly obfuscated email address (so that spam bots don't collect it)?

Good idea. I added an email address to the order book.

Great. but it's important to check if you seller/buyer actually has the funds he's offering,
If not, everyone will be able to put orders at the price they want to and influence the market.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 25, 2013, 11:25:23 AM
Pouncer, maybe it's best to remove dacoinminster's offer until confirmed ?
It effects the prices only by being there!
Who cares?  If it really effects the prices this is good for us.  People who buy on misinformation cause price fluctuations upon which you can get on the other side.  This is a profit opportunity.  The goal is not price increase at all costs, but rather buying/selling on information which the others didn't process correctly.  Smiley  Free markets baby!!!
It can be good or bad, time will tell.
but the fact is this is seems like an attempt of market manipulation,
not exactly free market Smiley
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: MasterCoin Buyer/Seller Thread on: October 25, 2013, 07:31:08 AM
Pouncer, maybe it's best to remove dacoinminster's offer until confirmed ?
It effects the prices only by being there!
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