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21  Economy / Speculation / Re: guess the price before 12december BAKKT ([btc]GAME[btc]) on: October 25, 2018, 01:16:26 PM
I'll throw my hat in this ring (ha).

9913 - it always seems like we are about to break into 5 digits (and many times, the next $X,000 amount), and it gets dropped back down the jusssst before.
22  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 30, 2018, 03:01:21 PM
What about the Mercedes V class vans?

Hmm. Wasn't aware of it.

Initial impression: looks relatively incapable of off-highway use. Tag line: The spacious sedan with the star. But more investigation may be warranted.

If you need better off-road capabilities in luxury, you can step it up to this Grin



Top Gear Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrUVMdkb4_k

https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/innovation/the-automotive-declaration-of-independence/
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 16, 2018, 02:10:12 PM
I see you've reached for the 'name calling precedent' in your argument.

A heavily played card in this debate.

Who? You and your butt buddies?

Can you at least put some effort in? It's not even entertaining anymore.



https://imgur.com/a/y50glpY

I drew lines, they look like they are going up. I'm a professional trader now according to this board Wink Grin

Not sure why everyone freaks out when it drops from $7k -> $6k. Unless you bought BTC in the last year and that is all you know, this is really, really boring movement.
24  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 11:17:15 PM
... (whether he is right or wrong is irrelevant)...

Yeah your right
Everything he says is correct

Except there is a severe lack of security on the sites he is posting (misdirection?)

So meh



hmm, maybe he is correct and your reading comprehension skills aren't up to par to understand, let alone debate him.

Don't really care about what sites he links. Assume no site is secure; you best protect ya neck and you'll be just fine  Wink
25  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 11:14:03 PM

Yes.. thanks for that clarification thisisntbtc.. the troll/shills really needed your support because they are underrepresented today...



I think the reason you don't like anonymint is because not only are his posts longer than yours, they actually contain relevant information throughout.

Edit - Soooo, are you saying you are a troll? Lol.
26  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 01, 2018, 09:31:21 PM
I find it absolutely hilarious how hypocritical the people in this thread are. The constant rhetoric in this thread is that shills/scammers resort to name calling, misdirection, and censoring attempts at silencing people who disagree with them.

anonymint came in here and provided an intellectually stimulating conversation for once; backed by a logical progression of his thoughts and where he derived them from (whether he is right or wrong is irrelevant). How many posters here actually do that? Maybe 10? Hell, even roach falls in this category!

What was the response to his posts?
- A few individuals read what he wrote, and had a decent discussion about it with a few even offering a well written rebuttal (they are part of the 10 posters mentioned before).

- Called a "fucking retard" or some variation with zero reference to what he said, let alone trying to refute it.
- Labeled him a bcash shill, which is laughable as he says it is shit in pretty much everything he writes
- You have banana man taking out his dick and trying to show people how big it is, talking about how much bitcoin he's bought and sold which has no relevance to the conversation at hand.
- Then there are calls for his removal and for him to delete his posts because it's off topic... as if 90% of the garbage posts on here aren't off topic.

Name calling. Misdirection. Censoring.

If anything, the absurd reaction to his posts leads me to believe he's more correct than not, and I have only just started reading it. This thread has fallen apart, because the few people that are interesting to read and who are actually contributing worthwhile information are slowly being driven away one by one.
27  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 07, 2018, 03:58:18 PM
Hashrate vs Price all time (log scale):





Interesting. Log scale shows an almost inverse correlation between hash rate and price.  I wonder if this holds true for more than just the past year (didn't realize graph was all time  Cheesy). Did price dip with that big increase in hashpower recently?

Of course correlation =/= causation.
28  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 05, 2018, 07:39:04 PM
bitcoin just had a 14.7% difficulty change upwards. that's the biggest since january. there sure is a lot of firepower out there somewhere.

The difficulty increased by 634 billion which is the largest increase in the history of bitcoin. The increase in this period alone is nearly equal to the entire network difficulty 1 year ago.

It probably has something to do with this:

https://adclair.com/gmo-introduced-a-new-miner-that-will-take-the-market-from-bitmane/

https://twitter.com/ynakamura56/status/1003908868114509824


Or this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3359468.20;topicseen (S11's)

“I respect Bitmain, but we will bypass them," said CEO of GMO Masatoshi Kumagai.

Recall that in September 2017 GMO Internet Group announced plans to invest $ 320 million in the mining industry and the creation of a new generation of chips. According to representatives of the Japanese Internet giant, bitcoin is intended to become a “universal currency”, providing “unlimited economic freedom”.

I love their confidence and outlook on bitcoin.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2018, 06:45:45 PM
Who cares? Technology is a genie that once let out of the bottle can not be put back in. It will be with us forever. Bureaucrats and systems of record and title transfer come and go. In the long march of time even mountains are reduced to dust by the simple flowing of water. Technology is like the water and Bureaucrats are not even close to being mountains.
No I get what you are saying. Perhaps blockchain will eventually find it's way into a few other places here and there where it makes sense to have it.

Though if the next 30 years go by and I still can't legally transfer a car title to another person for free via a decentralized blockchain solution, it won't mean much sweat to me as I'll probably be close to death anyway, lol.

If it does happen in the next 30 years it will be because political jurisdictions are in a sort of competition with one another. I wouldn't be surprised to see smaller jurisdictions implement as much of this kinda stuff as they can in order to attract expats.

IoT...

 to add and verify any new tills and its effortless for them. 

Idk. This is meme kinda true. But there is a huge range of applications out there where we dont NEED blockchain, but it would still be really cool!

I would love to have my vehicle ownership represented by ...

Yes and in a perfect world, this is how it should work. You should have the power to transfer title of ownership of something you own directly to another party without a third party in the middle. But that's the problem. When state-run Bureaus of Motor Vehicles have centralized control of title issuance, transfer, and registration of motor vehicles, and of course make revenue off of that activity, then why would they ever relinquish that power back to the individual? They would make so many excuses has to why that activity should be state-run and not decentralized.

Also, I wouldn't doubt that state-run BMV's will eventually try to implement some sort of blockchain solution behind the scenes as a 'calling card' to say that they are trying to change and do something. But I don't think it would be more efficient that what they have today.

I believe something like this already exists. Started in 2007 in Estonia, called Keyless security infrastructure. There are companies now trying to use in other markets as well
https://e-estonia.com/solutions/security-and-safety/ksi-blockchain/
30  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 03, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
There is a strong correlation between conspiracy theorists and low cognitive capability.  Make of that what you will.  
hmmm. many conspiracys are later found to be true. wake up people

"Many" = "<0.01%"

uh...no

However, regarding the moon landings specifically, it is true that many of the Apollo photos were faked or altered, which in retrospect was an extremely bad move as it has provided endless grist for the denier mill.

I find it very difficult to believe the moon landings were faked.

Considering the political environment of the time, the USA was in a race against a technically competent opponent full of very smart people, don't you think Russia, China, or any other country capable of doing so, would have called out the USA immediately? Embarrass the shit out of the USA by proving mathematically/showing that they did not in fact do what they said? I've never read or heard of such.

Edit: Regarding the photos, those I have no comment on. They could have been faked, sure; the actual landings though, I don't believe so.
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 28, 2018, 03:55:35 PM
I thought you guys already lost all your pants  Wink
32  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 18, 2018, 09:52:27 PM
As I was browsing some other tradingview forecasts, I came across at least one bullish scenario that looks/sounds plausible.




Why do people draw bats all over charts? It never means or predicts anything

I believe it is mocking the original poster of the chart, implying that the lines they drew mean as much as a bat/batman pasted on top.
33  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 23, 2018, 05:05:38 PM
The ugliest truth of bitcoin is that it just isn't useful in any legal fields.

Bitcoin being accepted as legal currency in Japan and South Korea aren't... legal? Or do you mean, you can't pay most lawyers with btc? Actually, I'm sure you could probably pay off a judge/politician easier with bitcoin than cash haha.



From that time I have earned a lot more then I did with bitcoin mainly with XRP, ETH and lately also EOS. For me, bitcoin is for bartenders and cab drivers who react on technical developments with a several year delay.

What are the technical developments of XRP, ETH, and EOS that surpass Bitcoin? It would be nice to know now, rather than a year from now.

34  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2018, 09:39:51 PM
Buckle up

-snip-

No shill quotes please..

And even if you were not quoting that sociopath's rag..so what?  How is this good news?  Some local court ruling that bitcoin has value. Surprise..

I wonder what great significance this piece of news might have. Is there any need for a Korean court to rule bitcoin has economic value and can be confiscated, so the proceeds go to finance state budget?

The Feds confiscated and sold Ulbricht's Silk Road coin and happily auctioned them without all that fuss.

I don't get it, the guy posts a bullish news article at a time when there is very little good news surrounding bitcoin (mostly just FUD) and you shit all over him? Who gives a shit if it's on that website? I doubt roger himself wrote the article (hint: he didn't). What's the guy shilling, Korean news? Lol.

How many governments have officially come out and said that bitcoin is recognized as having actual, real world value - not banning crypto currencies, or saying crypto is only used by criminals, etc. - especially in one of the biggest crypto markets in the world?

Did you guys lackadaisically brush off when Japan made BTC a legal currency? Or when Overstock.com said they were going to accept BTC, were you guys like, "whoopdi fuckin' doo, we all know it's got value, congrats company for figuring out what we already know"? No, we were all happy it was being adopted by a well known company where we could buy real things with our bitcoin.
35  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 31, 2018, 05:13:52 AM
Pop quiz: Convince an average low/middle class fiat-loving law-abiding person who doesnt believe in a failing or fraudlent banking system that they should use bitcoin, without talking about its price or making profit by trading it. Present what benefits they will reap by using bitcoin as opposed to banks, VISA, google pay, venmo, etc. Anything besides capital gain?


You are presenting false parameters in your shilling argument, tera beara... bitcoin is not merely meant to serve as a payment system, even though it may well accomplish such common use in that direction in the future, perhaps, but not necessarily in order to still have value and utility.

Yeah, if you create your own strawman, then you can more easily make some dumb -ass pie in the sky argument, that is not connected with reality.
If you are saying there are false parameters, you must be admitting bitcoin is only for overthrowing the fed, committing crimes, and/or making a profit... (or overthrowing the fed so you dont have to taxes on the profits)

Which of those payment methods are you in control of all your own money?
Gpay, VISA, Venmo: all built on top of the banking infrastructure, who hold your money and issue you IOUs. Replace banks with bitcoin, which is in your control.
36  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2018, 09:06:04 PM
Bitfinex´ed on Twitter:
Quote
Bitcoin went up 17% in a single day, the day they got the subpoena.
and 26% the day after. [...]

https[Suspicious link removed]d/status/958420215301394432

Bitcoin surged 43 % in the 48 hours after the delivery of the subpoena.

So that now looks like they sh*t themselves and decided to pump the market to cash out in an attempt to recover all the USD they didn't have in reserve backing the Tether pool then. Exact same procedure as Gox when they found themselves in a fractional reserve situation - tried to recover to full reserve market manipulation with "fake money".

I´m still sure that we won´t see a real decrease in the Bitcoin price.
I think we will stay above 10k.

I'm sure we will. 1-2k incoming longer term. The entire year's growth is just gonna look faked now.


The price also surged over 30% in the 7 days leading up to Dec 6th (~8500 -> 11500). Should we assume they had insider knowledge they were getting subpoenaed before hand and started the pump prematurely?
37  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 30, 2018, 08:50:44 PM
... I still struggle to understand why he recommended it to me, yet never embraced it himself.  I just think it was mainly laziness on his part. ...


Isn´t it possible that your friend simply didn´t had the money to buy
BTC even when the Bitcoin price was low? I guess a few people that believed
in Bitcoin simply missed out due to not being liquid enough to invest.

I´m not sure from which country you are, but even in a wealthy country
like the US the average person is not exactly having a lot of money
that is available for investment.

63% Of Americans Don't Have Enough Savings To Cover A $500 Emergency

Maybe you should reconsider and gift him a few mBTC  Wink


That might be the case, but, from my personal experience, it is mostly BS. I did not earn a lot (eastern eu. country), i cut back on my spendings - like a LOT - to put it in bitcoin. Most people waste money on shit. New clothes they do not need, all kinds of social indicators of wealth like newest phone, car, jewelry etc. I have talked to some of my friends about investing in the long term back than; they have rather spent several bitcoin's price on vacations in 2015/2016, so they can post a facebook report on "look, my life is awesome". Now those vacations costs 15x-20x in bitcoin price :-D

I hear you, my man. My friends/family/coworkers were all the same way. I told them to get in when it was $250ish (2013), that it was potentially world changing, and I was laughed out the room. I still remind my old roommate about his response, "Yeahhhh, no thanks. I've got some gold coins, I think I'm good." Or my boss, when it dropped like a stone, "Ha! How's your bitcoin treating you now?" - He no longer speaks to me haha.

Back then, I was part of that $500 emergency group, as shameful as it is to say. I couldn't afford it; I was so far in debt from making some stupid mistakes when I was younger (well, more from stupid lawyer fees, but I digress lol Cheesy) that my credit cards/loans took everything (we're talking 10's of thousands). Still, I found a way to put $25-50 a paycheck into btc; skipped trips, partying, dating, etc.

Selling as it rose over the last 6 months, I can say I'm now debt free. Paid all my cards off, paid my student loans off, and I was able to put a small down payment and own my own place. I wish I'd kept all the messages from those same people over the course of December, "fuck you and your bitcoin". Sorry I'm not sorry, but it's never to late to join the party Smiley

As always, HODL; even better things are soon to come. Just don't think that's the end all/be all, spend some if it will make your life better. Just make sure not to sell it all Wink
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 24, 2018, 10:41:26 PM
merit me. merit meee  Grin


I cannot find the +merit for living above a restaurant button.

You would if you were the man Wink
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2018, 11:00:42 PM
I think that in this context the BIG words of, "apparently not" only signify that BTC price had been continuing to have downwards price pressures in spite of news that should be unambiguously positive, in terms of BTC fundamentals.

That's what I assumed as well. My point was that they should say that and stop making people assume. At the time the price was changing +-$100; negligible compared to what we've been dealing with the last few days and weeks. Even now, the price is still within ~$100 of this morning; apparently the news/non-news is not having all that great an effect on price as they implied.

It's just annoying seeing "click-bait-esque" posts on here that the user adds nothing to the conversations. I'd much rather read through longer posts (like yours or even, dare I say it, r0ach's haha), at least I can try and glean something from them.

If I wanted useless posts, I'd go to r/btc. Oh well, my ignore list grows (like it matters, I'm a nobody here :p).

Edit: The next 24 hours are critical
40  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 22, 2018, 04:20:59 PM
u mad u little crybaby ?

Apparently your so called good news, have had no effect on btc price, quite the opposite actually.

I'm mad that I/others have to read your drivel and that it's taking up space forever on this wall.

I am quite happy with BTC's performance over the last few years, and have no doubt I will be even more so in time to come.
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