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I am not sure why people are so obsessed with vardiff. Changing the difficulty of submitted shares does nothing to find blocks faster or slower. I was fine at middlecoin with diffs of 1024. The pool doesn't get paid by shares, it gets paid by blocks. I just like the website here better.
Because we have one crappy card, and 516 is too hard for shares. Over time you will find that a higher diff will average the same income as a lower diff. Look at your WU stat in CG Miner, this shows you your Work Utility per minute. CG Miner docs give the description of WU as "WU: The Work Utility defined as the number of diff1 shares work / minute (accepted or rejected)." Your WU will never match your hashrate, but it should be close, a difference of about -10% isn't too much to worry about. Remember you would need to find 2 x 256 diff shares in a minute to achieve the same WU as 1 x 512 diff share a minute. So yes you may find less shares, but they are worth more to you. |
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this normal?  because all five rigs seem to be doing only this... here's another:  97 degrees is not normal! That card won't last long if you constantly run it at that temp. |
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I'm doing another try with Scan Time = 1 & Expiry = 60. When I look at the stats collected by CGRemote, for the last 2.5 hours I get Getworks 1658 Accepted 118 Rejected 2 Discarded 3101Stale 9 What the Discarded mean? I'm pretty good to find answers to my questions on Google but no luck this time.  As additional infos, here some others stats:  I think discarded shares are those that are not submitted by CG Miner due to a new block. |
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Terk,
Even if you consider yourself a software development guy, you are one with a firm grasp of how to design a web site to draw people in. In particular, I was keenly aware of the many ever-present repeated "start mining now" banners all over your main page. You could likely find a second career in the production of porn web sites or infomercials with subliminal undertones should either interest you. What you do choose to share, you present well.
The reason I decided to write was because as I was taking it all in, I was thinking to myself that here is a pool operator who finally gets what miners want, and then I stumbled upon the secrecy clause, buried deep within the bowels of the web site, hidden out of view seemingly with intention. One of your competitors obfuscates anything and everything, and never bothers to answer anyone for any reason except that he was first in the game and still thinks he is the only one in town. Another chooses to ignore tangible data including easily verified block chain data and how it shows that his switching algorithm likely has a correctable operational inefficiency affecting all of his miners, and instead of looking into it he chooses to go back and forth with a 140Kh/s miner on why he is missing his 0.000000002 btc from a single altcoin because his share fell below the eight digit precision to the right of the decimal point.
I don't care what coins I am mining. I don't care which coins my unexchanged balance is sitting in. It's largely irrelevant to me until it is converted into btc which is all I care to receive. I don't need much of the extra data waffle provides, and I am a guy who recognizes that good decisions are based upon good data. The real problem is, that with the exception of payouts and fees, all other data is subject to being easily fudged and finessed for personal benefit. All I need is how much the proceeds are from my mining, and how much I pay you to make that possible. It figures into my opportunity cost calculations.
Profitability is paramount of course, but I have a right to know how much I am paying you for your services. And I am more than willing to pay more here than elsewhere for exceptional results, over statistically relevant time periods. Though I strongly believe your 80% secret sauce / 20% luck estimates to be way off base, I am not interested in working though the data to prove it to you or anyone else. It is a very common mistake to underestimate the effect of luck in short term statistics, and even the data sample size required in order to accurately reflect long term results. And I believe you are making the very same one. I don't want your secret sauce, I want to know how much I am paying you to make it.
There is tremendous opportunity in this space, and it will likely pass you by if you do not shore up your shortcomings. Kudos to h2o. He was first (I think) and deserves some credit for that. But you're not second or third, or likely even tenth, but you could be a player if you shore up your shortcomings.
The relationship between miners and pool operators is a symbiotic one. If you take more than you give, as a pool operator you will likely find the relationship to be a very temporary one.
You ask for transparency? Which multi coin pools detail the trades they make? Stating a % fee is one thing, but without anyone knowing how much of each coin has been generated and how much it was traded for, who is to know that the % fee stated is actually the amount being taken? Unless I am missing something h2o is not providing these stats for middlecoin, so his 3% fee means nothing to me. Yes transparency is a great thing to have, but at the end of the day it revolves around profit for the miner (and the pool owner). If the pool owner is too greedy or his/her algorithms just plain suck then people will walk. |
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Hi,
Are there any issues with auto payouts at the moment? A couple of times in the last few days it doesn't seem to have worked. Instant payout works though.
Cheers,
Beanhead
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I download the client for the first time today, it connected ok and downloaded the blockchain for me without adding any nodes.
I've been solo mining successfully for most of the day, however I have just lost everything that was mined since 21:40 UK time (now 23:41) as none of them would get confirmed by the network.
Not sure if this means there is a fork?
Have just restated my client twice an I now seem to be getting confirmations on my mined blocks.
Think I might be the only one mining lol, either that or I have inadvertently created a fork??? Any idea how I would find that out?
EDIT - Just got a load more Orphans so am gonna can mining this for tonight.
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Hi Mumus, I hope you really mean "no hard feelings" as it definitely wasn't my intention to offend. You have spent a lot of time and effort in to developing this miner, and myself and everyone else really appreciate it. As soon as I have some XPM in my wallet I'll make a donation for your efforts. I'm a suspicious person by nature though, lol. You're absolutely right though, a wireshark trace or compiling the binaries from the source (after checking the code of course) would resolve any doubts. I for one, although suspicious, am also lazy so am using the compiled binaries that you posted!  Thanks for your understanding and open mind. Cheers, Beanhead. |
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Hmm, on ypool block statistics ( http://ypool.net/stats.php?a=bd&nr=3981 ) the user mumusv6miner 15517 4521.7 0.69676
how he got 15k shares in one block that took less than 2 minutes to be found? he's have the biggest share count in ypools... something special of his seting？？ Fishy? v4mumusminer 18083 5000.9 0.755724 mumusv6miner 14510 4928.9 0.714749 Remember, shares count for 40 blocks... Yes, but no one else in the pool is getting anywhere near those stats. That is a serious amount of horse power to get that kind of figure. The closest is about 11000, but those two combined are 32000! Looks out of place in the list of other miners. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Maybe there is a GPU version out there? Maybe he owns a server farm? Maybe we are all mining for him? Maybe it isn't even him? Maybe I should shut up lol. How effing stupid are you? HOW are we mining for him??? In a quick look, he's found 9 out of last 30 blocks. 1.41-1.52 average per block x 30 blocks = 42.3-45.6 XPM. If he'd been mining solo that'd be well over 90! Sure looks to me like HE's mining for US. (Prob shouldn't tell him, he'll quit the pool and then where are we?) So what if he's running a VPS farm with 400 CPUs? I know I am close to break-even, have earned 97XPM through the pool and my stats say I've found 9 blocks. So I would have been bettter off if I'd been solo, but I'd not have had a constant income. It's a trade off. Thank you for the nice comments, I meant no ill will to Mumus or anyone else by my comments, I was theorising and you obviously missed my point. There is no escaping that those stats do stand out. The following is how sad and stupid I am, How do we know that the compiled version that we have all downloaded contains the same source code as what has been posted on github? Unless someone has taken the time to disassemble it? Then we don't. So in theory, and I am not suggest this is the case, there could be some code in the miner we are all running that submits the odd share here or there to an account other than the one specified when you run it. The odd share here or there times a couple of thousand miners? You do the maths. This is how it is potentially possible that we are mining for him. What a ridiculously stupid idea though. Again I was theorising around the possibilities of that vast power advantage those two users appear to have over everyone else. It may not even be Mumus, and in which case the theory above is completely null and void. Again I would like to apologise if I have caused offense. I am no troll and that was not my intention. |
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Hmm, on ypool block statistics ( http://ypool.net/stats.php?a=bd&nr=3981 ) the user mumusv6miner 15517 4521.7 0.69676
how he got 15k shares in one block that took less than 2 minutes to be found? he's have the biggest share count in ypools... something special of his seting？？ Fishy? v4mumusminer 18083 5000.9 0.755724 mumusv6miner 14510 4928.9 0.714749 Remember, shares count for 40 blocks... Yes, but no one else in the pool is getting anywhere near those stats. That is a serious amount of horse power to get that kind of figure. The closest is about 11000, but those two combined are 32000! Looks out of place in the list of other miners. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. Maybe there is a GPU version out there? Maybe he owns a server farm? Maybe we are all mining for him? Maybe it isn't even him? Maybe I should shut up lol. |
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Hmm, on ypool block statistics ( http://ypool.net/stats.php?a=bd&nr=3981 ) the user mumusv6miner 15517 4521.7 0.69676
how he got 15k shares in one block that took less than 2 minutes to be found? he's have the biggest share count in ypools... something special of his seting？？ Fishy? v4mumusminer 18083 5000.9 0.755724 mumusv6miner 14510 4928.9 0.714749 |
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So I'm suddenly having problems with running 64bit executables on OSX through wine. Is anyone else having problems?
Details:
Running OSX 10.8.4 on a MBP.
$ uname -a
Darwin [...] 12.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 12.4.0: Wed May 1 17:57:12 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2050.24.15~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
Installed wine through MacPorts with no noticeable errors.
Running wine 1.7.0
So my kernel is 64 bit, but when I run wine on the new (or the older) miner, it says:
err:process:create_process starting 64-bit process L"[...]/jhPrimeminer-GMP-v6_64bit\\jhPrimeminer.exe" not supported in 32-bit wineprefix
wine: Bad EXE format for Z:[...]\jhPrimeminer-GMP-v6_64bit\jhPrimeminer.exe.
It's strange, because I'm 99% sure that I was able to run the 64 bit version of the earlier miners (v2 and v3) without any problems. I've tried deleting the ~/.wine folder, reinstalling wine and i get the same error.
I've googled around a bit but nothing I try seems to work. I even went so far as trying to compile from source, but gave up due to compile errors, but I may give it another shot.
Any help would be appreciated.
I really don't know anything about wine, but looking at the error message above, do you need to download a 64-bit version of wine? or use a flag in wine to denote your running a 64-bit app? Pure guesswork from me I'm afraid. |
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That's some nice luck you had there Sterling! Thanks for the clarification.
I'm so used to mining litecoins using a PPS pool, the variance with XPM is something I'm not used to.
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With a i5-2500 @3.3GHz v5 and v6 are slower than v4... I don't know why?  I have a i5-2500k, I ran v6 avx build last night, overall I got more XPM per hour (got about 0.75 xpm in 8.5 hours, compared to 1xpm in the previous 24 hours), but maybe this was luck as I got 3 8ch shares and have never had any of these with v4 or v5. I did also seem to get more 7ch shares, but again maybe this is just luck. It is hard to compare v4 as the stats were messed up with that version (shares were being double counted by the miner). I think I am getting less 6ch shares with v6 as my share count on the ypool stats page has dropped from 110-130 to the 60-70's, again hard to judge with variance etc, but this stat started to drop as soon as I started using v6, so without the luck of finding the 8ch shares last night I think I would be earning less. I'll keep v6 running for 24hrs in total and report back. |
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Thanks mate, guess I need to look harder  |
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Can anyone give me an idea on the sort of return I should be seeing. I have an i5 2500k 3.3Ghz, I've had it running using 3 threads for almost 24hours now and have earned just under 1 XPM. I'm using -d 10 and haven't changed the -s, should I change this? How does -s work?
I'm using v4 of mumus miner at the moment, I seem to get better earnings per block from that than v5, but that may just be my misinterpretation.
Also can anyone explain the stats on the personal stats page of the ypool webpage?
- What bearing does overall share value have?
- The Share value figure at the top - how does that equate to how much you get paid?
Sorry if this sounds noobish, I've read this entire thread and can't get any clear definition from here or the pool website.
Cheers,
Beanhead
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Man, you are doing this not because of all users, but only because of you and your money. Don't lie to me cos i'm not as stupid as you think i am.
You Russian people are the biggest liars i ever seen. Its incredible how you can lie.
You are not really different as other people in your country.
Russia is so fucked up because of people like you, not your government etc. History tells that you people make stupid decision and cover things up, pretending it is not your foult. But in reality it is. Check out things like Katyn massacre, Smolensk etc. But one thing for sure, after some time people starting to know the real truth. It seams that you people make mess and blaming others. Its not right.
Now i don't really care about my money, because you clearly don't want to help the community of miners to recover money lost by your stupidity and run the pool with higher percentage of fee for this purpose. You care only about money, I care about the justice. I hate when people lie.
So if you call yourself honest person and helpful one, start act like good man, don't be an asshole.
You sir are a racist and a bigot, please climb back under the rock that you came from. It is at times like these that the true ignorant scum really show themselves. If you could really see past the end of your own nose you would realise that if everyone had the same ignorant demands for your money back right now, it would push Balthazar to simply end it all and walk away, because it simply is not possible to do that right now. Instead he is trying to do the right thing and find a solution to this problem. Yes it may take some time, but would you prefer nothing back? Try to think with a logical mind rather than anger and you may find you will be enlightened...........or maybe not. Balthazar - You have my support. Beanhead. |
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Balthazar,
Please zero the balance of 10.63785359 ltc on my account. I know it's not a huge amount but I hope it helps ease the burden you must be feeling just a little bit.
I will return to mining at your pool once you have things back up and running.
Regards,
Beanhead.
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My account is showing the following
PPS reward in current round ~ 1025.54525177 LTC.
Mined since last payment ~ 509.77461841 LTC.
Mined total ~ 744.50250975 LTC.
and
Date/Time Sum Donations
29.06.2013, 20:53:49 516.01487553 0.00000000
29.06.2013, 19:53:36 0.37420929 0.00000000
29.06.2013, 18:49:36 0.35287434 0.00000000
29.06.2013, 17:49:16 0.32914336 0.00000000
Obviously an error with the last payment as I average somewhere between 0.32 and 0.38 per hour normally, I also noticed that my average speed went up dramatically to over 24,000 Mh/s, so not sure what happened there.
Whilst I would love to keep the 500 or so coins, I am an honest soul so the coins are still in my account, so please take them back, I think I had something like 10-11 coins in there before this payment, but I'm sure you'll be able to work out what was in there beforehand.
Something similar to this happened to Ozco.in a little while back, he was hacked, and he replaced the lost coin in his hot wallet, turned payments back on and whoosh they all disappeared again. So double and triple check everything before re-enabling payments.
A quick question - My miners are still mining ok, are shares still being counted ok?
beanhead
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there are issues in the uk banking system and bitcoin...
we have risks of account closure and all sorts of crap...
Best way to cash out, get your btc to bitstamp (a uk based company) and trade them out to usd
withdraw these via sepa transfer to your account....
I suggest you get a burn account, I use lloyds, just in case they decide to close the account ....
Thanks for this. |
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It doesn't seem to be as prolific as elsewhere in the world.
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