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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do we benefit in lies in forum on: September 11, 2023, 06:57:32 AM
Just like real life, there are millions of liars living among us but we have no way to stop those liars.  they have the right to say whatever they want and we have the right to ignore them if we suspect they are lying.  for me, if there is a topic that I feel is not suitable for me or suspect that the topic is somewhat fictional, I will choose to ignore it and move on to a topic that is more suitable for me.  you don't need to worry too much about what you don't like, focus on the things you like and you will feel the beauty of the forum or even in life.
However, we have to understand, so we can analyze the liars who want to take what is ours. Many are tempted by his words, so they get prey, but we have to understand that this is a trick they use and we have to be able to ignore it so as not to fall into their trap. do something positive for us to produce maximum results, remembering that if negative energy is maintained it will actually make us lose money.
22  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When Trading becomes Unfavourable on: September 08, 2023, 02:10:30 AM
Changing trading plans is not always detrimental, this depends on the market, if you do have to change plans, there is nothing wrong as long as we can minimize losses. Only you know all trading plans because everyone's plans are different.

However, if you have written down your trading plan, and market conditions are still supportive, stick to the plan. Yes, of course you have to avoid responses that involve emotions from you such as fear or greed. Everyone who wants to trade must be able to train themselves to apply discipline and consistency when executing and exiting trades.
What do you mean change trading plans? If you initially determined a trading strategy for yourself and know how you will act, then what can you change? Let's say you entered a trade and you know at what price you will take profits, everything is clear here. You also know at what level you need to set your stop loss so that the losses are minimal. If you trade without stop losses, then not everything will depend on you, and perhaps in this case you will have to change and come up with something when your losses reach significant values.
I personally have gone out of plans several times that I have made myself in trading. Usually the strong reason that makes me change my trading plan is when bad or good news suddenly appears. Or fundamental news that will have a big impact on market movements. Like initially I will take profits at a certain level at first. but there is good news that could impact the hike higher. So I will shift my profit target. And change the previous profit target to stop loss plus. that's also something I recently learned from someone and it works well.
By using stoploss plus, it can give us the opportunity to get better profits, and if it doesn't go according to plan then we will still make a profit. in this way at least it can lighten our mental burden so that we can still think positively. actually no one knows what will happen to the next market so we seek security in trading, and that way we can control the feeling of greed that often arises, where it can have bad consequences and damage our psychology
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin obsession! on: September 07, 2023, 03:15:39 PM
According to the Britannica dictionary, obsession is a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal. While, the Oxford dictionary defines it as an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.

I find the Oxford dictionary definition more relevant and concrete. Britannica has vague phrases such as 'not normal'. Normal is not something common for everybody, it differs from case to case. People have variable frames of what can be considered as normal. Nevertheless, I don't think that obsession has something to do with crypto, ti be honest. Those who have succeed in this field have to be rather rational and focused, but not obsessed, because obsessive state makes a person anxious and suspicious, and this implies tiredness. While being effective requires clear mind an emotional strength, and you cannot be in such shape if you feel obsessed.
But I differ to that by saying it does a lot have much to do with people's interest with bitcoin. What drives bitcoiners interest to want to learn more and more about things and concept's relating to bitcoin is induced by a bit of an obsession in them about bitcoin. Obsession is all about wanting to know more, do more, the only time an obsession is bad is when it's taking beyond logical reasoning towards that which the obsession is directed to, but when done within the controlled parameters it does produce positive outcome. Obsession is dangerous only when moderation isn't applied.

Obsession, by definition, is already contrary to moderation. It is impossible to be moderately obsessed. What you are describing is more like an aspiration, a focus, but not an obsession. Obsession knows no limits, and its danger is that a person loses interest in other things, fixating solely on the subject of obsession.
I think the bad thing about obsession is that we put aside our common sense so that we have high expectations so that we have high shadows too, and it will be dangerous if in the end it does not match the reality so that it will become a psychological burden that can damage ourselves, obsessed with something like bitcoin is fine, as long as we also want to learn to deepen knowledge about bitcoin so we can think realistically
24  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government vs Bitcoin on: September 07, 2023, 03:05:31 PM
Many people say that accepting bitcoin as a currency will improve the economy but I don't think so, due to the volatility of bitcoin it will destroy the economy even faster, this I am on the political side of government. As long as bitcoin remains highly volatile, it will be difficult to become a currency.

eventually, those who hold more Bitcoin will have enough control over price movements. In fact, this will not result in economic growth in the community, but as you said, this can quickly destroy the community's economy. especially with the little knowledge about Bitcoin that the general public has.
we know the concern from the government for the issue of adopting Bitcoin as a substitute for fiat. As long as the volatility of Bitcoin's price is high enough, more governments will not use it as a currency for payment.
the government still relies on fiat which is trusted by the public. and it gives the government the advantage that they are in control of their own finances. but with Bitcoin, they will probably only benefit from the high taxes that are levied on exchange transactions.
Indeed, knowledge about Bitcoin is a priority, especially in a large country like mine, where if the government legalizes Bitcoin at this time it will be risky for the elderly, where it will be difficult for them to keep up with technological developments regarding Bitcoin, and if they know about it, it could happen that they will suffer losses due to volatility. Therefore, I think for now it is still as comfortable as it is now, where those of us who have knowledge can make money from Bitcoin, and of course it can improve our personal economy, and of course this will spread to those closest to us, our families, and spread widely in my country, and with that knowledge of bitcoin that doesn't lead to wrong understanding
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto or Real estate on: September 07, 2023, 02:56:20 PM
I'd choose Bitcoin all the way.

Bitcoin is less hassle, no paper works, less tax, and easier to buy and sell compare to real estate. Though, they are both good profit generator in the long run, I just don't like selling real estate because they take too much energy from you, physically and mentally. In Bitcoin, if you're a holder, all you gotta do is to buy when it dumps hard and wait for it to skyrocket before selling it, easy profits.
it's different for me, where I actually choose both, but for now I don't think I can afford to buy real estate because the price is expensive so I hold bitcoin, but when it makes a profit I think I will diversify to buy real estate and leave a little money for waiting for the bearish season to come, that way i will have 2 investments with different risks, and i hope that it will strengthen my finances, which with real estate i can turn it into a passive income
26  Economy / Economics / Re: What did elon do wrong in Twitter on: September 06, 2023, 04:55:16 AM


It's only those who have done something for the world can talk about Elon Musk, you can't be a empty barrel and come out in the open saying that this man ruined Twitter or something, line what the hell did you know anyway?


People who frequently utilize the application could also have opinions about how good or bad the app has gotten. You don’t need create something useful for the public or to solve the problems of the world to have opinions of how something should be run.
For you, Elon may have done something good for the world, it should be noted that his actions are first in his best interests. He’s a business man after all and would obviously want to profit from any venture.
Even empty barrels have the freedom to express their views.
Something we need to pay attention to is that Elon made a breakthrough that most people see as being very brave to take risks, but I think it is a way to make a profit in the future, because he is a businessman, and that is something that sometimes our minds can't think about. like what he did, in fact he could become one of the richest people in the world, it shows that the basis of his thinking has been recognized, we can only predict and wait for what he does to bear fruit later.
27  Economy / Economics / Re: Real estate vs cryptocurrencies vs business on: September 06, 2023, 03:15:18 AM
Crypto is not bitcoin, so crypto vs real estate I'll always choose real estate. Hard assets > shitcoins.

Real estate vs bitcoin? Always bitcoin, unless it's a very well known location to buy property.

It's a hard choice because bitcoin is constant anywhere you go. Real estate is not because you can have properties in Luxembourg and Kosovo. Belarus, Crimea, or places like Chechnya, are worse than penny stocks. I'd rather gamble my money at a casino than invest there.
Yes, it is true that choosing Real Estate must be based on many considerations. If it's a comfortable area like in a tropical country like my country, Indonesia. So choosing Real Estate is something that many people dream of owning. Because prices continue to rise from year to year. Because the security here is also pretty good. The scenery is also very beautiful. and people are also very friendly. But if it's in a country that is experiencing a moral crisis and war then I also won't choose Real Estate in a country like that. Especially when compared to Bitcoin then of course putting it in Bitcoin will be much better. Because even in some countries it turns out that their citizens save the value of their assets by converting to Bitcoin because of high inflation which makes their currency increasingly worthless.
In general, real estate is the first choice, including me too, but indeed we have to take it into account, even though there is almost no risk to it, but as you said, it is also a risk for real estate. I imagine that once I have sufficient real estate investment, then bitcoin and business will become the second choice, because by having real estate in several places of course we can also do business from that scope because for example if we rent it out it will also make money, while bitcoin is an option for long term and if mana makes amazing profits from bitcoin, then I will return to investing in real estate
28  Economy / Economics / Re: Are you risking investment in other things? on: September 06, 2023, 02:59:06 AM
There is a halving coming next year to which many people who know and have bitcoins have set a target of the amount they hope to have in their holding by the time the bull run begins. I like to know if with this knowledge of bitcoin halving coming, if anyone is investing in anything other than bitcoins. I do not mean alt-coin but things like Real Estate, stocks, bonds etc. I know that Real Estate is good to invest in, but asides real estate, what else are you risking the money you should to invest more in bitcoins on?

I don't have much money in my savings. So I prefer to invest my money in two different places. One is low risk and the other is high risk. For my first investment I chose gold, I used this as funds that I could use when I suddenly needed money, such as for health conditions. Another investment is bitcoin, I will buy bitcoin in increments, if the market is good I will buy more bitcoin, and when the halving gets closer I will probably hold more bitcoin.

I need to carefully manage my finances because I don't have much money. I hope I don't miss the Bitcoin ATH moment that might occur after the halving.
it's the same as me, the division of investment becomes a necessity in order to be able to meet the main needs of life, and after that we can invest in bitcoin, I do this because I have any money I can buy it, so I can set aside from my monthly salary, especially during the bearish season like this time, of course I increased the portion of bitcoin purchases and reduced the money on the referring budget, so that monthly life and savings just in case are not a problem
29  Economy / Economics / Re: Having a problem a Personal Finance? on: August 30, 2023, 04:18:08 AM
There are many theories, ways to solve financial problems or advice to increase sources of income that we read in books and watch in several videos. My question is whether all of that can be applied equally to all people?
Not everyone may find it feasible to implement all the suggestions provided by friends here. However, it's important to bear in mind that each individual bears the responsibility for their financial circumstances. Every person possesses a survival instinct and is bound to seek input from others' perspectives. Absorbing a multitude of advice can indeed be perplexing, yet a prudent person will sift through these recommendations to advance into the trial and error phase.

Human beings are social creatures, and the notion of solitary existence eludes us. Navigating life becomes considerably smoother when in the company of fellow humans.

We are indeed responsible for our own financial situations as it is our decisions and actions that put us where we are. It is also indeed natural for human beings, as natural social creatures, to seek opinions from a community that we belong to or can generally relate to. However, applying the responsibility we hold for our situations, it is vital to ensure that we are the ones to make the final say on what we should do and should settle with amongst the opinions and pieces of advice we have gathered. Moreover, it is best to remember that trial and error is a must, as not all of our actions will have good outcomes, but we can always find a way to turn negative results into opportunities.

In conclusion, asking for advice and opinions, as well as seeking others' knowledge are good ways to have options that will lead us to a path that we are ultimately responsible for. Remember that every decision is made from various factors that influences us, and it is up to us to make good use of them.
other people's suggestions can indeed make us a consideration by applying them to our lifestyle. Economic problems must be faced by everyone, considering that all living people certainly have needs that must be met, it's just that in essence we must be able to apply a lifestyle according to our income or even have a simple mindset and leave it for long-term investments. in an era like now most people imitate the hedonistic lifestyle in order to have recognition even though there are other ways that can be taken to gain authority
30  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not for everyone! on: August 29, 2023, 03:24:16 AM
Another thing to learn is that they should always used their spare money or money not in haste to make use of since most person's always expect huge profits from holding. From my understanding, whenever you are holding it should be for bitcoin only any other currency is at a very high risk because they posses the tendency of losing 99 percent and this alone had sent back people to their past. So why engaging yourselves with trading and hold you should also try as much as possible to only used their spare fund or an amount they spare to lose.
it is indeed the key that must be held, using spare cash which does not interfere with our needs for life will make us more relaxed in holding it. and before that we must also be aware of the risks, so there is no need to really hope that our money will multiply quickly, because thoughts like that sometimes often damage our common sense. if you are only ready to receive profits I don't think that should be done in the cryptocurrency world, because many people are disappointed in the end
31  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: newbie with newbie questions on: August 29, 2023, 03:12:20 AM
in trading exchanges that are used should be giant exchanges, thus increasing the security of our funds, and for signals, I use personal analysis, it hasn't produced good results for now, but I enjoy the process, because I believe one day I can live from the market . for those of you who are beginners I suggest not to rush to make money from trading, but to learn from many sources and enrich your knowledge about trading so that in the end you can also enjoy the process until you are successful later
32  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW DO YOU MAKE MONEY WITH LESS MONEY? on: August 29, 2023, 03:01:33 AM
Maximize Risk-Taking:
Go for meme plays x10 or x100, or even lose it all. Take huge futures leverages. In the worst-case scenario, you might lose everything, but if you win, your $150 could turn into $1,500 or even $15,000.

This is true that acceptance risk in some field is necessary to take the reward but as you mentioned the type of taking risk is totally a bad decision which should always be avoided. If you select your reward on your luck they its a type of gambling so it refers to the fact that result will always be negative.

There are numerous ways through which one can get greater reward by using less amount of money but if one think that by using 1$ and he will get 100$ after a minute then its a foolish behavior. Without gambling there are other options too but people cannot wait for it but yearns for getting more in a second so result of rapidness is also failure.
indeed taking big risks is a terrible act, because it is more inclined towards betting or gambling. I think if we have a little capital, then it would be nice for us to enrich knowledge first, and getting rich is not difficult with knowledge, but indeed everything requires a process, not in a blink of an eye. We know that in the crypto world, many new rich people have been created, moreover every time a bull run comes, some of them are lucky, some have planned beforehand, I think that hoping for luck can only lead to disappointment.
33  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Here is a tight slap to bitcoin haters on: August 28, 2023, 05:27:09 AM
Those who have deliberately spread FUD to influence the price of Bitcoin in the market have received a hard slap from the evidence shown by Bitcoin, the goal is only to drop the price of Bitcoin but in reality Bitcoin is able to show quality beyond what they never imagined. Some of them act as if they are Bitcoin haters, but behind the scenes they hope for the collapse of Bitcoin in order to collect Bitcoin at low prices. Strategies like this are common in the business world, they will try to drop the value of Bitcoin in order to expect big profits.
but unfortunately for now it's not as easy as the time of 2018 where it's easier to spread FUD and easier for people to panic in the face of bad news. but now we know that people are smarter at reading the character of the crypto market, and already have knowledge about it, so not everyone will easily believe the news that is circulating, and they will remain faithful to wait for the bull market, so they have remained loyal to it until now
34  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if there is no crypto bull run for next 10 years ? on: August 28, 2023, 05:15:48 AM
at first it was indeed in terms of profit being the main choice to invest in bitcoin. and if in the next 10 years there is no price increase as expected, then that is part of the risk where we already have an overview of the risks and rewards that will be faced in the future. disappointment will certainly be felt, but risks cannot be avoided, and of course if that happens I will still hold onto it because indeed I invested using cold money, and I consider it my pocket money
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When to invest in bitcoin on: August 28, 2023, 04:25:22 AM
the feeling that often arises in our hearts is waiting for the price to drop again and then we will buy it. but after the price went down we thought again and were afraid the price would drop again and only then did we buy it, until finally the price went up and we panicked so we bought at a higher price, after buying the price actually dropped back below the previous lowest price, and finally we frustrated. therefore buy every drop in the area we plan, and don't spend capital at one price so we can buy back when the price drops again
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Rank positions on CMC changes every bull market? on: August 23, 2023, 07:35:13 AM
What is the crypto projects in top 20 that will fail to retain their position in the next bull market? There is a saying that in every bull market new projects will take over the top 20, do you think another project can rob the positions that Avalanche, Matic, Polkadot and Solana tomorrow?

of course it can happen, even before the bull run happened the possibility of the top 20 position being taken can also happen, because if there is an altcoin it is better than the top 20, then of course the top 20 position will be taken, therefore if you want invest in cryptocurrency safely for the long term, then you better invest in Bitcoin, because Bitcoin position cannot be taken and will remain top 1 in cryptocurrency.
Depend on price stable or not make some coins on top 20 position will be change and their position drop or up regarding with transaction volume and price in lower or upper. There are not guarantee with 20 position top coins keep exist with their standings when get problem with their coins actually position will drop and out from top 20 position standings. Luna is top 10 standings coins but when price dropping drastically their position out from top 20 standings in CMC. Lets predict which one top 20 rank position standing coins in CMC will drop their position and replace by the other coins, will BNB loss their standings place after price dumping drastically from 300 dollar and today almost drop to 200 dollar.
for altcoins there is no guarantee to always be ranked 20th in coinmarketcap, because there will be other altcoins that are developing and can shift the position of the top altcoins at any time. especially during the bullish season which is the right time to compete for investors by offering the advantages of an altcoin, or even an altcoin that is currently trending well, will become a reference for investors to seek profit, and plus from influencers who can certainly influence investors to boost an altcoin, so there are many ways to shift altcoin rankings
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is Bearish market the right time to buy coins? on: August 23, 2023, 07:24:35 AM
currently is the bearish season and this time also the price has fallen again, if yesterday you bought tokens or coins, then this time it will be even more profitable if we buy, and that's why we don't buy at one time, so if there is a decline like now we can buy it back so that you get more bitcoins, if bitcoin hits $20k again, then I will also buy it back, considering it's a good moment, so there's no need to worry about any situation that happens, because I believe that in the future it will also go up return
38  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What could be the problem here? on: August 22, 2023, 06:57:40 AM
Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

There's a very slim chance of this story been true because it sounds impossible as trading can't be in a pattern of winning today and losing the next day unless the trader is doing it on purpose that he make efforts on the the first day but place an unwinnable trade the next day but since no trader will intentionally lose his trade then this story isn't true. Beside to solve this problem, why don't the trade just skip trading the next day and trade the next.

Since he's losing in an interval of one day, so the trader should skips the very next day to see if he'll win when he trade again. If you're losing in trading, the best advice is to quit and try others means of making money from the crypto market instead of doing what isn't working.
sometimes the strategy system is also not in line with the existing market, and I think that is a normal thing, we can only do our best, and then God's hand will work, we just have to wait for the results whether it reaches the target or hits a stop loss. if you continue to experience losses, I think it will be a bad day, and instead of changing the strategy system, maybe examining the advantages and disadvantages of our strategy system would be better
39  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you have any methods to do it? on: August 22, 2023, 06:46:56 AM
If the method you are using is working for you, why trying spot trading. Then, if you fell you want to try spot trading why not start it moderately or with a small capital and see how it works before you target yourself.
Having a daily target of 50$ - $100 is disastrous and it will set you up to distress such that you will not be able to control your emotions.
One other thing to consider is that you didn't regard loses, when you average the loses you will encounter and consider the anticipated profits, you will be able to land on a more realistic target. Don't forget that for you to have big profits, you must have big funds or higher leveraging risk. So, it will be nice to start up small and increase later.
I think people do not like to do the same thing over and over again, there could be some issues regarding that for sure. I think it is going to be quite important to just keep it fresh and change some stuff and check new stuff as well. That doesn't mean you need to forget about the old method, if you are making money with it then you will keep using it, if you are not making any money with it then you are not going to end up doing anything.

Just constantly think about either leaving that aside, or going back to that based on your research. People just simply like to check new strategies and that is something understandable, I do not see anything weird about it, I do that too and check out new strategies just in case.
Experiments on new strategies are indeed needed to enrich the trading strategy system, so that later we can find out market situations and conditions so that we can use the right strategy system for that. However, it is better to sort accounts from different trading strategies, so that we can monitor the advantages and disadvantages of the system used. after that we can target how much profit from each system is used, along with we can also calculate the level of risk, and that is a consequence
40  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin Instead of Gold? on: August 21, 2023, 07:55:45 AM
The answer to a debate that is constantly discussed on social media accounts and news outlets may open doors to different answers for everyone. So, Why Bitcoin Instead of Gold for you?

If this topic has been discussed before, I would appreciate it if you could enlighten me.
First, investing in Bitcoin is riskier than gold.  But since Bitcoin has been around for 14 years, people have believed in their hearts, investing in Bitcoin is unlikely to cause a huge loss. Compared to investing in gold, investing in Bitcoin has many advantages. You can sell Bitcoin whenever you want without going to any market or store. But in selling gold, you must go to a market or a gold shop. Investing in Bitcoin has many advantages over gold in many other ways.
before knowing the advantages of bitcoin over gold, of course we have knowledge about bitcoin, considering that without knowledge, bitcoin investment can be bad for us, besides that there are also advantages and disadvantages of both, so we just have to decide which one to invest in. people will feel comfortable and calm when holding gold, but not necessarily everyone who holds bitcoin will be able to feel the same way, given the higher fluctuations in bitcoin
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