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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - zkSNARKs 21b max POW-Zhash No-Premine No-Dev Tax on: November 02, 2018, 01:23:47 PM
I  posted a extensive reply showing where ZhashOS is more power efficient than the OP's setup by over 80 watts. Has a lot of pictures detailing the test and results.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5057989.msg47505668#msg47505668
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - zkSNARKs 21b max POW-Zhash No-Premine No-Dev Tax on: November 02, 2018, 01:20:54 PM
We are getting ready to provide ZhashOS release 3 (release candidate is out now) which will be a HUGE improvement in setup time and ease. We have received a #zhashos discord post that one first time user was mining in around 2 minutes after initial boot.

Also, we a receiving multiple reports of ex-windows users seeing a 70-110 watt drop in power usage at the wall with ZhashOS.


Here is a tweet showing a user amazed at how easy it was to activate remote desktop and even using it on his phone.

https://twitter.com/FollowWings8/status/1056207465388351493


Here is the Bitcoin Talk discussion forum for other details and a screen shot of it in operation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4481713.msg40261859#msg40261859
Nice job.
I tested the first versions and the work is a very good quality software.

Thank you so much for your kind words!

I've been diligently working on ZhashOS.

It is very rewarding to receive positive testimonials of it's users.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [OS] ZhashOS, Mine in 3 EZ steps w/EWBF 0.6. A Pendrive OS, Keep Win10/7 Intact. on: November 02, 2018, 03:19:08 AM
I just posted a extensive reply showing where ZhashOS is more power efficient than the OP's setup by over 80 watts. Has a lot of pictures detailing the test and results.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5057989.msg47505668#msg47505668
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 4x Nvidia gtx 1070 Ti Rig pulling 755 W? What's you guys' specs? on: November 02, 2018, 03:11:34 AM
I had a some spare time today, so I decided to temporarily slap together a test rig similar to the OP's setup.

I couldn't get it exact but very close and I WAS able to fairly duplicate the power draw from the GPU's to show that ZhashOS is using LESS power as I stated before.

I had to gather a few GPU's from other rigs to do this for the moment. This test rig is using a celeron G3930 CPU. Same as the OP's. I couldn't gather 4 1070ti's, but I was able to gather 2 1070ti's and 2 1070's. BUT I set all the GPU's to draw 148 watts in the ZhashOS SetupWiz application.

So my GPU's were drawing MORE than the 564 Watts the OP was drawing. I did this to make sure I wasn't using less from the GPU's.

I also took 16MP pictures so you will be able to zoom in via "Ctrl +" in your browser to see the details if you like.

OK, so 1st pic is showing ZhashOS booted into the GUI desktop and idling. It is drawing a mere 52 watts. Power actually bounced between 52-54 watts while I was taking some pictures.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/1BootedIdle.jpg

2nd pic is showing nvidia-smi showing the 4 gpus idling but consuming 32 of the 52 watts ZhashOS is using. So theoretically bare naked ZhashOS booted would draw ~20 watts.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/2NvidiaSmi.jpg

3rd pic is a closeup of the nvidia-smi screen showing a clearer view. As a side note, I just realized I left a dummy plug in GPU3, which ZhashOS thought I wanted to be in dual monitor mode and assigned some extra memory and power usage to it. I probably would have been 2-4 watts lower than the 52 watts at idle without it. Oh well, that's what happens when you rush.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/3SmiCloseup.jpg

4th pic is a closeup of the power meter for clarity.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/4MeterCloseup.jpg

5th pic is a closeup of the SetupWiz screen. Here you will see I set the GPU's 0-3 to draw 148 watts and set a mild overclock. This was a temporary test setup. I didn't want to spend a lot of time on tuning it in.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/5ZhashOSWizSettings.jpg

6th pic Shows it in action mining using EWBF. There is a window below the miner showing GPU measurements updating once every 10 seconds. Activating this is a checkbox setting in SetupWiz.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/6mining.jpg

7th pic shows a closeup on the mining in action for a clearer view.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/7miningCloseup.jpg

8th pic shows a closeup of the meter for clarity.

http://zhashos.altcap.biz/power/8miningMeterCloseup.jpg

So this clearly shows ZhashOS is not just like any other OS. We heavily focused on power efficiency when we assembled this mining OS. So that ended up saving over 80 watts over the OP's setup even while we set the GPU's to consume slightly more power.

FYI, 83 watts x 24 hours x 30 days = 59,760 watt hours (~60 kwh)

60 kwh x $0.145 kwh = $8.70 savings per month. Of coarse it will be even more if you pay more for power.

We estimate our dev fee would be LESS than $1.00 for this rig for the full mining month. This IS a "Money Good" proposition and a excellent "value" in this bear market we are currently in.



ZhashOS forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4481713.msg40261859#msg40261859
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [TTT] TrustNote for Mining – The Minable Public DAG Ledger on: October 30, 2018, 02:44:17 AM
Have you decided which version of equihash you will be using?
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - zkSNARKs 21b max POW-Zhash No-Premine No-Dev Tax on: October 28, 2018, 07:12:28 PM
We are getting ready to provide ZhashOS release 3 (release candidate is out now) which will be a HUGE improvement in setup time and ease. We have received a #zhashos discord post that one first time user was mining in around 2 minutes after initial boot.

Also, we a receiving multiple reports of ex-windows users seeing a 70-110 watt drop in power usage at the wall with ZhashOS.


Here is a tweet showing a user amazed at how easy it was to activate remote desktop and even using it on his phone.

https://twitter.com/FollowWings8/status/1056207465388351493


Here is the Bitcoin Talk discussion forum for other details and a screen shot of it in operation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4481713.msg40261859#msg40261859
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 4x Nvidia gtx 1070 Ti Rig pulling 755 W? What's you guys' specs? on: October 28, 2018, 05:58:47 PM
That's because the 755W is the total your rig is consuming not only the cards. And just for you to know, Linux uses 5% more energy than the windows OS in mining, yes it's a thing where Linux is behind.

In all due respect Cairbarreira, You can not categorically "claim" Linux uses 5% more energy. I have provided photographic evidence from a disinterested third party that ZhashOS which IS a Linux based OS is using LESS power than windows on the same rig right here:

https://twitter.com/firstminingrig/status/1010449787802484736?s=19 (https://twitter.com/firstminingrig/status/1010449787802484736?s=19)

I can claim this because ZhashOS loads itself into a ram drive therefor needs much less CPU utilization to operate and has ZERO need for virtual memory and therefor is not hammering on a hard drive swap file continuously. As a side note because ZhashOS is loaded into a ram drive, it doesn't even need a hard drive and application loading and general running is much much faster than hard drive based operating systems.

Answer me this.... IF Linux uses more power than windows, Why are the hundreds of millions of "battery powered" smartphones using Android or iPhone which is foundationaly based on the Linux platform instead of windows phone OS? Wouldn't the customers DEMAND the manufacturers use the most efficient OS and give their business to whoever did?
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 4x Nvidia gtx 1070 Ti Rig pulling 755 W? What's you guys' specs? on: October 28, 2018, 01:17:39 PM
Also FYI,

70 Watts x 24 hours x 30.4 days= 51,072 watt hours (51 kwh)

51kwh x .145kwh = $7.39 per month.

As of this mornings whattomine mining earnings our fee is estimated to be ~$0.23 per 1070 ti per full mining month.

So this is a "Money Good" decision and we definitely earn our keep for you with the savings.

Here are some estimates for the other GPU's

1050ti: .09
1060: .14
1070: .22
1080: .24
1080ti: .33
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 4x Nvidia gtx 1070 Ti Rig pulling 755 W? What's you guys' specs? on: October 28, 2018, 12:06:02 PM
You have got quite a specification there. Though I am not expert in that section, I would love to know more about it. Love to know others opinion on this.

To be clear on the 2 minute setup. I think the first time user was "testing" it on a single GPU pc before he put it on his rig. But he was amazed on how quick he got it mining. Here is his quote he DM'd me in discord:

TrollHodlrLast Tuesday at 11:20 AM
I will comment!

TrollHodlrLast Tuesday at 11:30 AM
Dude.....
Setup on my 1050ti took like 2 min...
Most of the work was changing the mining algo line....
I will use it for BTCz, once price start picking up, but for now, at $0.33 kWh. I can better mine Zel and buy BTCz;
Oh, right, It's mining Zelcash for now..

Overdrive5Last Tuesday at 12:20 PM
So I think you can mine Zelcash with ewbf. Right? Wow 2 minutes! That's gotta be a new user record!

TrollHodlrLast Tuesday at 12:21 PM
no experience with linux since 25Y...
Yeah, it's mining Zelcash now
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [OS] ZhashOS, Mine in 9 EZ steps w/EWBF 0.5. A Pendrive OS, Keep Win10/7 Intact. on: October 28, 2018, 10:44:05 AM
Here is a tweet showing a user amazed at how easy it was to activate remote desktop and even using it on his phone.

https://twitter.com/FollowWings8/status/1056207465388351493

We are getting ready to provide release 3 (release candidate is out now) which will be a HUGE improvement in setup time and ease. We have received a #zhashos discord post that one first time user was mining in around 2 minutes after initial boot.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: 4x Nvidia gtx 1070 Ti Rig pulling 755 W? What's you guys' specs? on: October 28, 2018, 10:32:02 AM
That is because the 755 W is the total your rig is consuming not only the cards. And just for you to know, Linux uses 5% more energy than the Windows OS in mining, yes it is a thing where Linux is behind.

That is the reason why your power meter reads 755 W and I think this is a much normal power consumption in a rig with 4 Gtx 1070 cards.

First of all the Nvidia-emi is not completely accurate, it is an estimate. 755 W is the total consumptions not just the cards. And you have to take into account Linux uses 5% more energy when mining in comparison to windows os. with all that being said it is pretty normal all things considered.

I don't know where you are getting this information from, but we have received multiple reports that ZhashOS which is a pendrive based Micro Linux where it's total size is less than 1 GB and loads completely into ram on boot is using 70-110 watts LESS than windows.

It is probably because CPU utilization is under 3-4% most of the time with this OS and it needs ZERO virtual memory so it is not hammering on a hard drive swap file. Actually, it doesn't even need a hard drive at all which saves a few bucks on the "Total Cost of Ownership" of your rigs.

Here is a tweet from firstminingrig showing power meter results: https://twitter.com/firstminingrig/status/1010449787802484736?s=19

So please don't consider all Linux's to be power inefficient. It can be VERY efficient when it is built to be. Which is what we focused on with ZhashOS. It is also why Linux is very popular in the commercial / Industrial embedded control market. And why Android and iPhone are foundational derivatives of it.

We are getting ready to provide release 3 (release candidate is out now) which will be a HUGE improvement in setup time and ease. We have received a #zhashos discord post that one first time user was mining in around 2 minutes after initial boot.

Here is the Bitcoin Talk discussion forum for other details and a screen shot of it in operation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4481713.msg40261859#msg40261859

ZhashOS is currently providing the asic resistant equihash miners such as EWBF, miniZ,gminer and bminer. Though bminer can also mine ethash.

I hope this clarifies the Linux power efficiency concerns.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's Cuda Equihash Miner 0.6 on: October 27, 2018, 03:01:10 AM
this project dead?

I am not understanding why you would ask this.

I mean, EWBF has revised the miner within the last month.

In all due respect, how can you have possibly considered this project to be dead?
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's Cuda Equihash Miner 0.6 on: October 26, 2018, 12:24:51 PM
Ok not impressed .6 crashes non stop .5 ran like a charm

I believe you are going to find your issue is local to your system.

I can get EWBF 0.6 to run for weeks without any problems on every rig I run it on.

So from my vantage point, it has been rock solid.

Maybe if you give more details about your rig, someone here will be able to give you some help.

Like:

O/S and version details
Nvidia driver version
GPU compliment
power and overclock settings
batch or script file details

34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [OS] ZhashOS, Mine in 9 EZ steps w/EWBF 0.5. A Pendrive OS, Keep Win10/7 Intact. on: October 23, 2018, 02:33:13 PM
A really nice tweet from one of the ZhashOS Release 3 beta testers:

https://twitter.com/FollowWings8/status/1054699213043494912?s=19

We have pulled the previous ZhashOS r203 Mega link.  

Release 3 will be out within the next few days.

FYI, we have reports of ex-windows users seeing 10-20% less power usage at the wall with ZhashOS.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - zkSNARKs 21b max POW-Zhash No-Premine No-Dev Tax on: October 21, 2018, 03:58:29 AM
If you really love bitcoinz , I strongly believe that you should respect the MASSIVE YES vote outcome of VaultZ and that you should not try to separate the Community with a no-VaultZ chain keeping.

  I would like to add that characterizing the BZE-fork/chain as a fair one , is not true, because this led to a ccex problem which harmed many members and of course this was not a fair project because the announcement was made after about 2,5 months of the fork which offered a time frame for the... "chosen few" (who made all this) in order to be almost alone enjoying mining with ultra low difficulty in order to make easy money by launching a coin with fast-halving rewards in the future.

Your msg was a screaming speculative one which imho is NOT helping bitcoinZ.


wow - Hi Andev.  Your writing style seems to have improved.

ASIC-resistance was a parameter that was introduced by you when you launched the coin.  I'm not sure the game you're playing with that part, as you were known to be concrete in the specs of the coin.

The community has carried everything on its back since you abandoned the project - I'm not sure there is any faith left in your identity.  I still believe completely in the vision of a fairness and clean coin and that continues to be carried out.

To be as fair as possible we built a voting and proposal system, again something that was driven by the community, to make decisions regarding the continued trajectory of the project.  

VaultZ is one of the many proposals that has been considered by the community and they voted overwhelmingly in favor of it.  The community has also worked hard in building donation fees into their pools, and that has worked to at least keep BitcoinZ afloat.  

A project needs funding to, at a minimum, maintain its infrastructure like the servers than the explorers run, the wallet system, the domains, etc.  VaultZ is the solution to have a volunteer-project self-sustaining.  

BitcoinZ has gone through many iterations of people, and it has been hard for those that have always stuck around to deal with it.  Whoever is still around are true believers and are detached from the unnecessary egoism that we've seen wash through BitcoinZ.  Very few have gone the route of dedicating their time as a volunteer, but those that have shouldn't be choked into maintaining the entire infrastructure.  Unfortunately, volunteerism only goes so far with the pool of currently available human specimens.  



Thank You @Vandar and @crypt0r3x for your reply to bitcoinz-pod. You both said what I was wanting to say but you did it with much more clarity and eloquence and I am sure there are others here that feel the exact same way. THANK YOU!!!!
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - zkSNARKs 21b max POW-Zhash No-Premine No-Dev Tax on: October 15, 2018, 01:21:04 AM
Here is a preview of the new desktop from our upcoming release 3 of ZhashOS.

http://www.altcap.biz/ZhashOSdocs/smpl13a.png

More info to come shortly.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [OS] ZhashOS, Mine in 9 EZ steps w/EWBF 0.5. A Pendrive OS, Keep Win10/7 Intact. on: October 15, 2018, 01:14:44 AM
Here is a preview of the new desktop from our upcoming release 3 of ZhashOS.

http://www.altcap.biz/ZhashOSdocs/smpl13a.png

More info to come shortly.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's Cuda Equihash Miner 0.6 on: October 14, 2018, 03:50:02 AM
yes, i have it on exit 3. i'll look into 3rd party software. maybe that'll help the gpu's restart without having to restart machine. probably would be faster. currently the time from error to restarting machine to mining again is about 4-5 minutes. instant-restart would save 1 min most of the time, but sometimes it goes longer. got 14 cards on win10

If you were on Linux, I could point you to something.

I haven't done windows in over 12 years, so unfortunately, I would be of no help.

Here is a thought. Run each card in separate miner instance. Make a log entry when a specific instance resets for you to review when you return to the machine. That should at least point you to the problem GPU.

Then lower overclock on that one or change out the riser and see if that fixes it.

Hope you find your solution.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: EWBF's Cuda Equihash Miner 0.6 on: October 14, 2018, 02:10:37 AM
EWBF_, can you add ability for miner to exit as soon as there is an error with the cuda cores? currently when there is a memory error or something like that it tries to restart the GPUs and stuff. I'd prefer the miner just quit so computer restarts faster. everytime the miner tries to restart GPUs one of them doesnt mine or the computer restarts anyways. It would be more efficient if the program exited right away

fistsofgod,

Have you tried the --eexit 3 setting?

Otherwise you will need a separate software watchdog that monitors GPU utilization.

Hope this helps

Overdrive5
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bminer: a fast Equihash/Ethash/Tensority miner for CUDA GPUs (10.4.0) on: October 12, 2018, 11:46:16 PM
Hi realbminer,

Not sure if you are aware of this but I am experiencing a issue with using your miner at equipool.1ds.us mining BitcoinZ.

Your mine_equihash1445.sh example script does work correctly at 2miners.com for me in Linux.

I have modified it for the address and pool to point at equipool using the BitcoinZ community fund wallet for testing as I intent to include it in the next release of ZhashOS.

Here is the script:

#!/bin/sh

# Change the following address to your Equihash1445 addr.
ADDRESS=t3cEmCiE9q2So7m7fBi8awEcS6BRDR8LHN9

USERNAME=$ADDRESS.w
POOL=mine-btcz-na.equipool.1ds.us:50062
SCHEME=equihash1445

# =====================================================================
# Change pers according to the coin you want to mine. For example:
# Coin:         Pers
# BitcoinZ:     BitcoinZ
# Safe Coin:    Safecoin
# ZelCash:      ZelProof
# SnowGem:      sngemPoW
# Bitcoin Gold: BgoldPoW
# You can also use PERS=auto for certain pools, e.g. altpool, zergpool
# =====================================================================
PERS=BitcoinZ

./bminer -uri $SCHEME://$USERNAME@$POOL -api 127.0.0.1:1880 -pers $PERS

#################### Script End ###############################

When I run this script, I get these errors:

[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:53-04:00] Bminer: When Crypto-mining Made Fast (v10.4.0-b73432a)
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:53-04:00] Watchdog has started.                       
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:53-04:00] Starting miner on devices
  •                
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:53-04:00] Starting the management API at 127.0.0.1:1880
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:54-04:00] Starting miner on device 0...               
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:54-04:00] Connected to mine-btcz-na.equipool.1ds.us:50062
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:54-04:00] Started miner on device 0                   
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:54-04:00] Subscribed to stratum server                 
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:54-04:00] Set nonce to 7fffee7a                       
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:36:54-04:00] Set target to 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005000
panic: interface conversion: interface {} is bool, not string
[WARN] [2018-10-12T19:36:54-04:00] Miner died! It will be restarted soon...     
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Bminer: When Crypto-mining Made Fast (v10.4.0-b73432a)
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Watchdog has started.                       
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Starting miner on devices
  •                
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Starting the management API at 127.0.0.1:1880
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Connected to mine-btcz-na.equipool.1ds.us:50062
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Subscribed to stratum server                 
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Set nonce to 38000e08                       
[INFO] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Set target to 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005000
panic: interface conversion: interface {} is bool, not string
[WARN] [2018-10-12T19:37:02-04:00] Miner died! It will be restarted soon...     


For what it is worth. EWBF,miniZ and Gminer are tested mining correctly there. My first thoughts are there may be a stratum incompatibility between your miner and equipool. But since the other three miners *do* work there, I am leaning that the issue may be on your side.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.
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