Whoa still no official update? There seems to be a serious disconnect between the OP ,Voxelus devs and Uphold inc which needs to be bridged ASAP. This project is not about the coin but the Voxelus platform and the Uphold inc. backing so what we need is someone from Voxelus or Uphold to address this thread directly or start a slack group or at least provide a link to their forum. You guys have been around here for a while and would've seen countless coins being launched but still no proper planning was done before market was asked to be opened on bittrex. it's like amateur hour right now and VOX investors are being treated rather poorly with all the uncertainty , confusion and lack of official updates. Are you guys really serious about this project? Because it seems more and more like a side project of sorts. We get it that it has just started trading and it's still early days but you've got to admit even meaningless meager scamcoins have planned and launched far better than this. All said and done ,selling below ICO prices is still pointless. Some serious manipulation is going on to accumulate below ico prices as the smart money knows, when the voxelus marketplace does open on 19th April ...and the news cycle starts... and the VR hype sets in.... and with no mining sell pressure ....and with majority of coins tightly held by uphold.... and the remaining coins all bought at around ICO prices .There will be just one way for the price to go.  |
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Thanks, I will address this today. Any progress ?? |
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LoL, the price some are selling their VOX is just retarded... and the whales laughing, scooping up all the VOX they can get :-)) Why stupid you ask? Well because uphold already confirmed the price will never be set lower than 150k and you'll soon be able to trade there The FUD has proven it's function once again, drop the price and then suppress price until accumulation is over. So there seems to be a misunderstanding. Uphold will not guarantee a floor of 150k but would follow the bittrex price even if it falls lower than crowdsale price. Hello, Hangterisaan, I see this is your 1st time using BitcoinTalk,
1/650 BTC was the last selling price from the Crowdsale on shapeshift.io - Uphold honored the same price and allowed people to buy them at that price after the crowdsale. Uphold will start following the Bittrex price today or tomorrow as I've been told.
If uphold continued selling at 1/650 BTC the coin would never go up in price. Uphold switched to selling Voxels at 1/250 BTC, meaning about $2.00 a coin until they get the price to follow Bittrex. Again should be today or tomorrow.
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Woah! just checked the site. Are these guys really paying? Some people are clearly throwing money at it.  |
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So as far as them putting my name to this. If you read the OP on BCT, they put me as lead dev before I had a chance to announce the news to BC. I was upset since the gossip spread so fast I didnt even have time to talk on my own behalf and so I had them change the post to say i was ONLY a project manager.
It was never my intention to be a lead dev of a coin that I myself didnt write from scratch. If you followed BC, you would know that and you would know that this action went way beyond what anyone expected from me.
After they had my name on it, and people kept asking questions on BCT and they only wanna talk to me, i felt like i didnt really have a choice.
So the only choice i had was to pass up the offer in the first place(and i didnt have a time machine). And I would had to consider that they would put my name all over it and that i would be forced to take on a larger role for them. At the time, I really had not considered it. To me, I was just cloning Halo for them and doing markets which i had planned all year anyways. At the time of negotiation my rationale was to "get paid doing what i was planning on doing anyways".
So, i accepted and now there has been some drama which i never ducked.
Instead of worrying about the past my only intention is to focus on the future. SO I'm just going to continue coding and try my best. Which is all anyone should expect. Im not going to spend my time worrying if they bought on the back end. If there is selling below ico, you may be right although i have no idea how you would expect me to provide evidence of that no matter how rational your argument. So now im going to simply have to walk forward and put one foot in front of the other.
Err.. have to admit it doesn't sound too promising. I divested a couple of days back as it was too much of risk for me. Hope it becomes a success as crypto could really do good with such projects.Best of luck guys. Yikes! Proved to be great decision after all. I feel for those who are still holding and have to to bear all this mess. This has turned out to be yet another disgrace to crypto. |
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Considering the coin supply alone it is quite undervalued and the crowd sale participants got a very good deal .Unlike for say, the bitbay ico which many (incl me) realized later was way overvalued to start with. Sure people will try to manipulate the market but with such tight supply and never seen before features to come, many will prefer hodling than gambling with day trading. This is literally what is said about every ICO EVER!! -"This ICO is better than that other ICO" -"HAHA you would be stupid to dump at launch" -"HODL this coin because its the next best thing easy x10 profitzzz!!" -"Such innovation! So undervalued!!" -"I will buy more on launch and catch weakhand dumps" Seriously said in one form or another...with EVERY.SINGLE.ICO.EVER...and look were they all ended up? Shit. This one is no different. Set low ass buys, and wait...flip right before ICO price and keep the idiot ICO buyers hodling. Rinse and repeat.  Worked excellent for VDO. Made 3 btc in flips. I plan on making more here.  You seem to be new to crypto. My ICO investments in Bitshares , NXT , XCP and VIA made me LOFTY profits just by HODLing and giving them time to develop and blossom. Good luck with your shortsighted day trading games and measly gains. Learn the difference between TRADING and INVESTING. |
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Considering the coin supply alone it is quite undervalued and the crowd sale participants got a very good deal .Unlike for say, the bitbay ico which many (incl me) realized later was way overvalued to start with. Sure people will try to manipulate the market but with such tight supply and never seen before features to come, many will prefer HODLing than gambling with day trading. |
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Extremely professional presentation  This is fantastic! Yes,quite impressive and very well thought out. |
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Aah so finally crowdfund has ended . Received my coins already.That was fast! Starting to feel pretty good about being there at the ground level of of a potential game changing project. The mere thought of Decentralized Artificial Intelligence can excite even the most feeble minds and if you become successful to actually implement it , this could open up a whole new field in itself. Best of luck with the project. |
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Wait is this a ninja launch or something?Why is the thread so quiet?
Bitcoin meets BitShares. This can be HUGE!
Would love to see how this develops.
It's still in testing phase. I see. So the official launch will be after the 14th December snapshot date I presume? |
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Wait is this a ninja launch or something?Why is the thread so quiet?
Bitcoin meets BitShares. This can be HUGE!
Would love to see how this develops.
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There are no excuces in my eyes for what he did, even the first extension was not intented, but I said ok...
Changing the rules of the game in these times of crypto scams and all? WTF?
Given out his identity? That doesn't mean shit tbh, look at mintpal, we all know who they are, and how's that help with gettin' funds back from mint? It doesn't!
I am pissed as hell
We haven't changed any rules of the game, it is just a one week extension on the crowd sale window. That's it. "That's it"? This angers me a bit. The deadline is one of the most vital terms and changing it does indeed change the game. The decision reeks lack of market sense . In a crowd fund any changes to be made should be consulted with the crowd first. XAI has a lot going its way. In the current alt environment even getting 55 btc is no mean feat but now you have invited a lot of negativity and circle jerking and investors are not to be blamed for that. Pretty obvious that this group is working together in a coordinated attack to discredit XAI.
Notice how close together these accounts are posting..
They all post with in minutes of one another.
I wouldn't be surprised if all this drama stemmed from 1-2 people and their half dozen alt accounts.
I beg to differ. Changing the crowd fund terms has clearly ruffled some feathers and early backers have every right to vent out their frustration. I sold some of my other coins at a loss to get in after seeing the value proposition emerging towards the end of crowd sale. If the terms are changed and refund is not even an option.It actually does fit the definition of dare I say, a scam. |
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I got a quick quesiton about something
Q: Please explain how the escrow system will protect buyers & sellers in BitBay transactions.
A: The system is the revolutionary double deposit escrow. Both Buyer and Seller place deposits into a shared account. There is no need for an escrow agent. The deposits serve as the incentive to perform. Therefore theft and deception is impossible in these escrows. If those actions occur, the parties will not agree, the escrow will expire and they both lose. BitBay takes the profit out of theft.
Lets say I am the buyers, and I really hate a seller. He sends me my product and I just dispute it causing him to lose coins, i keep doing this to bankrupt him. How will you prevent this?
I could care less if I lose coins I got the product in hand.
Because you have to deposit TWICE the amount required to buy the product. So, unless you are just some psychopathic rich weirdo who doesn't mind spending double the amount for something just to torment the seller, this isn't going to happen very often because most people actually value their money. So take for example I wanted to buy something for 10k USD I have to put 20k Down? No way... No way not happening. Pretty sure if you polled the community as a whole they would not go for this either. ^ You get it. The DD escrow just doesn't seem practical for use. I wonder how many people actually read the complete FAQ or understood how the escrow system really works. |
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Very disappointing, Dev is being greedy now! He posted 40 BTCs would be ideal, he gets 50 BTCs but yet extended for another week!
I'm just trying to please the most people, and give everyone who wants to participate the opportunity to do so. We understand you need more btc to fund this project. Definitely. However this last minute decision for extension(twice) really makes early investors disappointed and question the integrity of your words. Trust and faith in the dev is the most important thing in crypto. I have a suggestion that will help early investors and at the same time, u can still gather more btc funding for 1more week(I hope it's really 1 more week). Win-Win solution. Early investors that invested in the crowdsale for the past 2 weeks are rewarded with a 20% bonus. In other words, increase the price of $XAI for this final week. 0.00024 XAI/BTC +1 |
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Err.. have to admit it doesn't sound too promising. I divested a couple of days back as it was too much of risk for me. Hope it becomes a success as crypto could really do good with such projects.Best of luck guys.
That thread you pulled that from is basically a witch hunt on David.Investing in BitBay is not for everyone. I respect your decision not to support the project. Hopefully when the roadmap shows progress and the marketplace gains traction you'll reconsider. Cheers. Oh yes if things clear up I will happily hop back in, may it be at a premium but for now its better to be safe than sorry. A lot of eyes will be on the upcoming wallet.Hope it turns out well. |
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So as far as them putting my name to this. If you read the OP on BCT, they put me as lead dev before I had a chance to announce the news to BC. I was upset since the gossip spread so fast I didnt even have time to talk on my own behalf and so I had them change the post to say i was ONLY a project manager.
It was never my intention to be a lead dev of a coin that I myself didnt write from scratch. If you followed BC, you would know that and you would know that this action went way beyond what anyone expected from me.
After they had my name on it, and people kept asking questions on BCT and they only wanna talk to me, i felt like i didnt really have a choice.
So the only choice i had was to pass up the offer in the first place(and i didnt have a time machine). And I would had to consider that they would put my name all over it and that i would be forced to take on a larger role for them. At the time, I really had not considered it. To me, I was just cloning Halo for them and doing markets which i had planned all year anyways. At the time of negotiation my rationale was to "get paid doing what i was planning on doing anyways".
So, i accepted and now there has been some drama which i never ducked.
Instead of worrying about the past my only intention is to focus on the future. SO I'm just going to continue coding and try my best. Which is all anyone should expect. Im not going to spend my time worrying if they bought on the back end. If there is selling below ico, you may be right although i have no idea how you would expect me to provide evidence of that no matter how rational your argument. So now im going to simply have to walk forward and put one foot in front of the other.
Err.. have to admit it doesn't sound too promising. I divested a couple of days back as it was too much of risk for me. Hope it becomes a success as crypto could really do good with such projects.Best of luck guys. |
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Count me in as not a fan of this decision at all.
+1 Some us waited for the last day to invest for a reason.This is quite unprofessional to say the least. Unprofessional gets thrown around here a lot when I don't think it's the right word. Maybe disappointing would be better  About half of all the BTC so far has come from the top 5 investors. I am curious what their opinion on the matter is. I'm sure if they have any experience in the technology space, they'd say that 100+ BTC in funding is more reasonable. In any event, I think this is more than fair, but I am of the "crazy" opinion the per coin price should be 30k sat since $125k is beyond cheap for project of this magnitude. I am one of the top 5 investors and would rather ask for a refund if initial terms are thrown for a toss. Can you explain your stance? You rather have quantity over quality? How is one week extra for crowd funding such an atrocity? Yes, Its quite simple.The more btc put in the less lucrative it is for a investor as there will be more coins in circulation than burned. As the price is fixed I would rather wait for the last day of the crowdsale to invest than have to keep my btc hostage for weeks. I whole heartedly understand that.. But that in no way is considering the long term benefits that are gained by extending the crowd funding after a dozen or so people requested more time to move funds from fiat to btc. You must see the long term potential this project has.. Above and beyond the simple quick flip I know you have in mind. You want AI And you want it at a $20,000 mrkt cap.. Go find me a comparable project with anywhere near this amount of funding. The dev stated he would move forward if 25btc was invested because he has a passion to complete this project. That does not change the fact that he has seen an immense surge in interest over the past few days.. Neither does it change the fact that yes you will get less of the market share for this coin for your initial investment, but that doesn't mean your stake will be worth any less. Don't mean to insult or sound rude. Just trying to express my opinion. I get your point but crowd sale is a serious business and extending deadlines like this does not reflect it.Period. |
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You guys really don't give the impression you care about the long term success of this project.
Your views seem awefully short sighted.
Explain to me why having more btc to fund a project is so utterly horrible?
Have any of you done your homework on what VC's spend to fund this type of project?
Then explain why 25 btc is enough for a successful crowdsale? |
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