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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INTENSE COIN - Blockchain backed decentralized VPN - Hybrid PoW on: January 10, 2018, 12:11:36 AM
On one hand i am really happy that ITNS is braking through to the other side ( Smiley ) surpassing 600 sats level , but on the other hand and considering that the only exchange we are trading is the limited volume and dysfunctional stocksexchange , i tend to believe that the price will soon consolidate to 300 sats.

We really need to get listed on another exchange(s) , i know that this is what everybody asks the past few weeks , but stockexchange's trading volume and cryptomarket penetration is annoyingly low.

I really hope ITNS will skyrocket both as a coin and most importantly as a working platform.

I am really attached to it , if i may say so , as this was my first ever coin that i mined back on August , when i first entered the crypto world.
When it was not even listed and we were just mining it because we trusted the team and the idea behind it.

Unfortunately i stopped mining when the diff skyrocketed and my daily 5-6K coins reward dropped to <1000.

Nonetheless , i am extremelly satisfied and hope for ever higher limits , our circulation and market cap can support 10-100x especially now that crypto is trending and everybody is in search of a cheap coin to invest.

Best of luck Devs and happy new year guys! Smiley
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax on: January 09, 2018, 06:08:30 PM
Just wanted to express my gratitude and to congratulate all BTCz team and community that kept this coin alive.


Great work ,

Sky Is The Limit.
23  Economy / Exchanges / Re: HitBTC.com - The most advanced cryptocurrency exchange on: January 04, 2018, 07:49:00 PM
I URGE you NOT to send ANY AMOUNT OF COINS to HITBTC as me and hundrends of other users are dealing with tremendous issues the past few days.


No one can withdraw , 1/30 withdrawls at most are succesfull but at the slowest speeds possible ( 24hrs+ ) .

Dont try to trade at least until everything settles out , and please DONT LET YOURSELF BEING LURED by some coins that are trading at an ultra premium ( eg TRX which is + 50% of the rest market price ). You CANT trade because your deposit will not reach the exchange. I tend to believe that this was all a set up in order to create a vast influx of incoming BTC/ALTcoins.

I only hope that we are not dealing with a new MtGox here.


You have been warned guys.
24  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange with USD EUR GBP JPY CAD BTC LTC XRP NMC XDG STR ETH on: December 20, 2017, 12:53:34 AM
UNBELIEAVABLE ONCE MORE


Trying to trade now that BCC IS 80% HIGH AND THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE. EVEN THE ORDER BOOK HAS PRICES 50% LOWER THAN MARKET.

TRIED TO WITHDRAW AT LEAST MY COINS , AND I GET THIS

"This action is not available for tier level 2

Your current funding tier level (2) is insufficient for this functionality. Please further verify your account to increase your tier level and funding limits."


You guys are amazing. This is absolutely great.

ABSOLUTELY GREAT.


I am sick and tired of this , i am out once you fix your once used to be great exchange.


AT LEAST RESPECT OUT MONEY , WE ARE SUFFERING GREAT LOSSES ALL THE TIME BECAUSE YOUR SERVICES ARE INADEQUATE.
AND WE CANT EVEN PROCCED TO ANY KIND OF LAW MEASURES BECAUSE THIS IS CRYPTO.

GET YOUR EXCHANGE WORKING FOR CHRISTS SHAKE
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OFFICIAL] [SAFEX] Safe Exchange Coin [website www.safex.io] on: December 15, 2017, 09:07:57 PM
So , according to Cryptopia Exchange Management reasoning:

- Any coin listed on Cryptopia should be delisted if SAY a massive group of paid trolls flood all the official community channels with accusations on Cryptopia.

- Every major company listed on Exchanges like NYSE or orhers major cities StockExchanges should also be delisted given the fact that there are millions not satisfied customers of every single product on a worldwide basis.

This is damn scarry.

So , all coins on Cryptopia, the majority of whom are either shitcoins or small startups that try to trade ethically and jump to bigger exchanges, would be very easily delisted if 100 trolls say that Cryptopia is manipulting X coin market.

So, my advise to Cryptopia Team.

Stop being so sensitive.You are a company not a child.
Try to put your customers' needs and INTERESTS on top of everything else. You are paid for it after all in tx and withdrawal fees.

Take back your announcement to ease things out.
Let Safex trade.


 
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OFFICIAL] [SAFEX] Safe Exchange Coin [website www.safex.io] on: December 15, 2017, 08:24:53 PM
Very amateurish tactic from Cryptopia to Delist BECAUSE THEY CAN this coin.

This is unacceptable. I cant even keep myself calm right now


In WHAT RIGHT DO THEY DELIST WITHOUT WARNING A COIN , KEEPING THE WALLETS IN MAINTENANCE AFTER LETTING THE COIN PUMP TO 3X ?!?!


ARE YOU SERIOUS GUYS??!?!

And NO LAW CAN HARM THEM? IS THAT WHAT CRYPTOS IS ALL ABOUT??


If one exchange doesnt feel like it or CANT HANDLE COMMUNITY FAIR OR UNFAIR ACCUSATIONS , THEY CAN JUST DELIST A COIN SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CAN?!?!?!??


JESUS IF THIS WOULD EVER HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD THE LAWSUITS WOULD FALL LIKE RAIN



I DEMAND AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM SAFEX TEAM ON THIS




THIS WAS THE MOST UNPROFESSIONAL MOVE EVER AND COULD ONLY RESULT IN A MAJOR LOSS OF TRUST AND ACCOUNTS TO CRYPTOPIA IF THEY DONT TAKE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT BACK.

VERY UNPROFESSIONAL AND UNETHICAL.


THIS COULD ALL BE AVOIDED IF THEY HAD ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY THAT THE WALLET IS IN MAINTENANCE BECAUSE OF THE BLOCKCHAIN UPDATING.
THIS NEVER HAPPENED.
THEY LET THE MARKET PUMP THE COIN.
THEN STOPPED THE MARKET IN ORDER TO PROTECT CONSUMERS..
THEN THEY FORCED A COIN DELISTING.



NO , CRYPTOPIA THIS WAS NOT HANDLED WELL AND YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE. NOT A FUCKING EXCUSE.

YOU HANDLED THE SITUATION IN A POOR UNETHICAL AND UNPROFESSIONAL MANNER SHOWING A GREAT DISRESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY.

shit like this is why it was delisted.


Give me a break man.
No serious company/exchange delists a coin based on users' complaints , be serious please.

It is a Democracy last time i checked , you dont believe that we should voice our concerns if we are not been informed about things such us wallet maintenance and coins being delisted Huh!?!

Cryptopia never said anything about the wallet maintenance on SAFEX. NEVER. I am stuck on my monitor since yesterday believe me.
This announcement came all of a sudden.

Smartcash wallet for example IS on maintenance and they state that correctly.

Safec wallet was NEVER stated that was being either on maintenance nor safex blockchain was updating. Never.
My transfer from Bittrex to Cryptopia was unconfirmed 2 days.
They never responded to my strictly friendly and professionally written ticket.

And now they delist the coin.


NO , my friend.

Your statement "shit like this is why it was delisted" is totally wrong.

27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OFFICIAL] [SAFEX] Safe Exchange Coin [website www.safex.io] on: December 15, 2017, 08:10:35 PM
Very amateurish tactic from Cryptopia to Delist BECAUSE THEY CAN this coin.

This is unacceptable. I cant even keep myself calm right now


In WHAT RIGHT DO THEY DELIST WITHOUT WARNING A COIN , KEEPING THE WALLETS IN MAINTENANCE AFTER LETTING THE COIN PUMP TO 3X ?!?!


ARE YOU SERIOUS GUYS??!?!

And NO LAW CAN HARM THEM? IS THAT WHAT CRYPTOS IS ALL ABOUT??


If one exchange doesnt feel like it or CANT HANDLE COMMUNITY FAIR OR UNFAIR ACCUSATIONS , THEY CAN JUST DELIST A COIN SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CAN?!?!?!??


JESUS IF THIS WOULD EVER HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORLD THE LAWSUITS WOULD FALL LIKE RAIN



I DEMAND AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM SAFEX TEAM ON THIS




THIS WAS THE MOST UNPROFESSIONAL MOVE EVER AND COULD ONLY RESULT IN A MAJOR LOSS OF TRUST AND ACCOUNTS TO CRYPTOPIA IF THEY DONT TAKE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT BACK.

VERY UNPROFESSIONAL AND UNETHICAL.


THIS COULD ALL BE AVOIDED IF THEY HAD ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY THAT THE WALLET IS IN MAINTENANCE BECAUSE OF THE BLOCKCHAIN UPDATING.
THIS NEVER HAPPENED.
THEY LET THE MARKET PUMP THE COIN.
THEN STOPPED THE MARKET IN ORDER TO PROTECT CONSUMERS..
THEN THEY FORCED A COIN DELISTING.



NO , CRYPTOPIA THIS WAS NOT HANDLED WELL AND YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE. NOT A FUCKING EXCUSE.

YOU HANDLED THE SITUATION IN A POOR UNETHICAL AND UNPROFESSIONAL MANNER SHOWING A GREAT DISRESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [OFFICIAL] [SAFEX] Safe Exchange Coin [website www.safex.io] on: December 15, 2017, 04:47:19 PM
Over 36 hours have past , since i withdrew my SAFEX coins from Bittrex to Cryptopia.

STILL MY TRANSACTION STAYS "UNCONFIRMED 2/20".

CRYPTOPIA HASNT REPLIED TO MY DAMN TICKET AND I JUST SIT IN FRONT OF MY SCREEN WATCHING MY INVESTMENT AT 2x + .

CRYPTOPIA STAFF ANSWER TO THE TICKET #74307 THE SOONEST POSSIBLE.

I am so sick and tired of all this price maipulation tactics from all the crypto exchanges. So damn sick and tired.

Wallets on maintainance.. At a convenient time for the stock , always..

Jesus..
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Official Moderated Thread on: December 14, 2017, 05:44:03 PM
So , few minutes ago i managed to get my hands on my ICO coins Smiley , everything went smoothly - apart from the sms delays but its ok -.

Cryptopia got the coins 2-3 hours later , i wasnt expecting it to be this quick baring in mind the vast influx of deposits for such a small exchange , so i give a huge thumbs up to Cryptopia!!

So , whats next for me?
I would like to share my thoughts with you because i trully like this coin/ idea / platform .

Despite all the things that happened to the team and all the unfair comments/posts that they endured all this time by either

-crypto rookies
-naive people
-uneducated people that cant understand the basics of day to day human interactions let alone crypto trading
-professional paid trolls
-fudsters

and in general people from all socio-economic classes whom reactions are unpredictable in so many aspects.

Despite all of the above , Electroneum is Live and Alive.


ETN helped me tremendously in getting a lot of profits from day One of its not so polished and struck by hackers launch. I started mining with my own resources ( gtx 980ti sli & i75820k ) and renting hash from NiceHash. By doing that i managed to mine approx 200.000 coins on the 1st 2 days.
I sold them all , naturally , and you can imagine my profits.

Today i sold my ICO coins.

But the true ETN investment starts NOW.

And you should all be aware of that , i am not one those typical no brainers that post "to the moon to the moooooon" on 8 out of 10 posts they made.

I only know this,

ETN is indeed not priced accurately right NOW because this price was created and maintained by the miners and their day trading. Approx 100 million coins were mined ( correct me if i am wrong here ) and over 4 billion coins ( ICO purchased at less than 100 satoshis ) were sitting on the blockchain. Those coins are still on the road to cryptopia where they will be most probably be sold BLINDLY by its owners in order to accumulate 4x-8x profits.

And this is the normal thing to do in this volatile crypto world.

But the next day , when Electroneum will stabilize in a more normal price , and once its circulation will be the true one of 4.5 billion coins , then we will all witness ETN's strengthening.

And then you should all buy back. And treat it as an investment.
I will sure do.

There is a bunch of altcoins and shitcoins out there that are trading at 1000 sats , 10.000 sats and 100.000 sats. True shitcoins , with no business plan , no team , that are only backed by 2-3 individuals whose only purpose is to use Xcoin to mine and earn bitcoins. Simple as that. And then dump it.

Electroneum is a Company. With a plan that trully exists and will materialize the months to come.
Thats why you should all treat this as an Investment.

Add ETN to your portfolio once price reaches below 100 sats.

Do your day trading with other shitcoins, enjoy those profits and let the ETN team do its job.

Thats all from me ,

And once more, thanks Electroneum for the huge gains you gave me.

I didnt regret taking part on the ICO ( the 1st one i ever took part Smiley ) and i will buy back a lot of thousands and simply HODL!!! Smiley Smiley Smiley
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released on: December 13, 2017, 12:47:15 AM
nice pump on bittrex, then follow by a dump



The funniest thing was that Bittrex did a press release few days ago about "pumping groups" and that they wouldnt EVER allow this , confiscating any money that steam from such trades...


What a bloody joke..
31  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange with USD EUR GBP JPY CAD BTC LTC XRP NMC XDG STR ETH on: December 13, 2017, 12:18:57 AM
First time i write a complain post for Kraken but i had enough.

Apart from all the issues all of you have , which i also have ofcourse , the situation with Kraken is heading to worse day by day.
As of today Tuesday 12/12 i ll consider Kraken as a massively disfunctional exchange non suitable for day trading and on the fly trading for sure.

The only reason i keep "use" it is because it is the only one that accepts EURO in fiat and i had already made a deposit a couple of months ago when i first got into cryptos.

Apart from that , every single time i tried to make a trade it either didnt work on the 1st attempt , messed up the orders , showed canceled order later on and FULLFILED them despite the fact that i thought they were canceled , dont work at all and the API is garbage.

Shame on Kraken stuff. This is really sad.

Should we all fear that they will shut the doors one day and make a MtGox move? I just wonder.

IF ANYONE FROM THE STUFF IS MONITORING THIS THREAD PLEASE GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER AND FIX YOUR SERVERS. JESUS
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: December 12, 2017, 10:59:05 PM
It seems that one of the new Monaco Asian exchanges , OKex has not still enabled the MCO withdrawals.

According to their official 4th Dec press release the MCO tokens withdraw option was scheduled to be enabled on the 11th Dec.

https://support.okex.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003150971

But still NO WITHDRAWAL IS AVAILABLE.

I am stuck with a respectable number of MCO tokens and cannot transfer them Nor sell them because the exchanges' price is WAY LOWER that the rest market due to low volume.

Can somebody from the group help or any official MCO stuff do something about this?

thanks
 
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] - HIVE PROJECT - World’s first crypto currency invoice financing platform on: December 05, 2017, 05:33:40 PM
What is going on here  ?  Why has price dropped 30% after getting all this great news today  ?!  I went heavy on this one and I must say I am feeling like an ass right about now.   Am I missing something about this project/coin ?  I have never heard of a company giving great news and the price tanks right away......  What news were people expecting or hoping for ?  I thought the news seemed very good.   Huh

Thats what you get if the only big exchange you are listed on is Hitbtc , lol. Its pump&dump heaven, and tokens get hyped and dumped sometimes for no reason. News are amazing, and retards started dumping anyway. The only news that wouldnt make it dump, would be Bittrex news... any other exchange news would make it dump, after so much hype buys in past week. Its either Bittrex, or nothing and they dump. I know, its beyond retarded. Thats why HVN needs bigger exchanges, and bigger trading volume and stability.


I ABSOLUTELLY AGREE.

HitBtc is a troll heaven , an exchange that can only do harm to a company's/coin's credibility.
I am a HVN believer and investor , and it is frustrating to see such price manipulations on HitBTC.

The volume most times is low , the buy and sell orders are forming nothing but walls , forcing the small investors to either buy high or sell low.

Its the worst thing guys , the worst thing..

Yesterday it was a freak show , no one really cared about the news on that exhange. Everybody started dumping 20 minutes prior to any news getting released.
So , anyone that states that " the news were not worthy and thats why the coin lost 30% " is either a liar , a fudster or a day trader and not a real investor.

Yesterdays news were AWESOME.
But , many people cant and wont care about the long term sustainability of the company and simply follow the " buy the rumor - sell the news " rule of the speculators guide book.

Thats what it is guys , and it happens to all coins.

Short term profits and small time "investors" who seek to earn a buck or two and buy a lambo in a week.

It is trully a pitty.
Hoping the best for HVN team and URGE them to add ONE more exchange. Bittrex at least. And NOT Binance...  which is 10x worse in manipulation tactics than HitBtc.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin Platinum - The True Decentralized Bitcoin - Fair, PoW, multi-algo on: November 30, 2017, 08:15:51 PM
-> That was really a nice one guys!! <-
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] INTENSE COIN - Blockchain backed decentralized VPN - Hybrid PoW on: November 16, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
Though i am very happy that ITNS is gaining more and more exposure ( great work guys !! ) i MUST admit that the age of profitable mining is gradually ending.

I ve mined this coin from Sept , for over a month , at a 30-60.000.000 max difficulty with my CPU and 2 GPU's rig , when Nicehash ports were not even available and ITNS was not even on an exchange..

But, at this moment with the Network Difficulty having reached 370,106,204 acd climbing exponentially , mining has become beneficial only to those that rent and point hashpower to the newly opened high diff NH ports..


Still , i ll keep mining until next week just for the fun of it and maybe let my CPU on it for the rest of my mining era.

As a  true believer and ITNS supporter I wish all the best and luck to the intense coin , team and project in general! Smiley
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ㉫ ENJIN COIN - Smart Gaming Currency (Binance Competition Nov 15th!) on: November 16, 2017, 03:52:45 PM
Well it seems that even the "competition" didnt help this coin do any better.. it is the second time i am doing a short term investment to this coin.

The first time i managed to get out with minor profits but this time i dont think i am going to make it. This is a very bad and most probably very whales-manipulated coin investment. This whole "hey guys buy some more and do some trading in order to win" binance competition was very fishy from the start but i skipped the "trading" part of it and bought a lot at the peak ( 417 sat ).

What the competition want to accomplish is simply enhance day to day trading , which means that the price will not moon as we were all expecting , but instead will plummit with the help of short trades.
The competitions' terms state that , i am just reading between the lines here and try to rationalize.

Promoting trades and assigning prizes to top 100 traders is very different to promoting a simple purchase in order to be on top 100 , as i initialy thought it was the case.

Keep in mind the prizes.. Top winners will get for free hundred of thousand of coins. Which they will most probably dump immediately leading the coin to even lower levels.

I believe that by the end of the "competition" the coins price will be at least 150-200 satoshi , thus helping the big whales to buy in at the lowest possible price.
I fear that we are being just manipulated once more by Binance exhange. I have made a bad choice unfortunately and the only thing to do left is just wait when and if the coin will reach those levels agains.. Probably by another manipulative tactic..

Thats my 2 cents.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Offical Moderated Thread on: November 08, 2017, 12:31:55 PM
ELECTRONEUM No.26 IN COINMARKETCAP I AM LOSING MY MIND Smiley


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/electroneum/

The coins in circulation is around 120M only. CMC added the 5B ICO coins that are still locked in DEVS wallet.
so the exact marketcap at 700 satoshi per coin at US$7,300 per BTC is US$ 6.1M

coinmarketcap figures are absurd.

Note:

Once devs release the 5B etn for the ICO participants.
ETN price with the same marketcap will be

Code:
0.00000016 BTC






I agree with you there. I am afraid once the wallets are released the price of this coin will crash as most of these investor will try to panic sale and make a quick profit. Only the smart ones will hold.

Obviously , yes. I know.

BUT still it is a nice thing to watch it being at No. 26
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Offical Moderated Thread on: November 08, 2017, 05:14:14 AM
ELECTRONEUM No.26 IN COINMARKETCAP I AM LOSING MY MIND Smiley


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/electroneum/
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Offical Moderated Thread on: November 06, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
Hello Contraband,

I know the old thread was also closed because of all those negativity-spreading trolls and liars. In this thread though, the user "Cafetools" keeps spamming overly optimistic comments, making this thread very repetitive to read, as there are multiple of those comments on each page.

Was just about to post exactly the same thing man. I totally agree.

It almost irritates me as those comments seem, the least, manipulative.

We all believe that ETN will manage to trade eventually higher that ICO , BUT telling people to buy NOW at these levels because " IT WILL REACH 5$ BY END OF YEAR" and the rest BS is basically unacceptable and can only do harm to the project.

We all have the right to our opinion and beliefs , as long as they are not used to misguide and manipulate possible investors.  

ETN will follow the typical pattern each and every ICO and new entry candidate follows. The price skyrocketed the first 48 hours because of the miners seeking to profit from the enormous hype Electroneum managed to create during the ICO and pre launch phase and taking advantage of the low algo difficulty which is always the case in blockchain launches.

But this price is not representative at ETN current market state and circulation.

Once the ICO investors  ,and wannabe-investors who seek to get an easy buck, get their hands on their coins they will most probably sell at least their 80% at market price which may seem normal considering the less than 10 million coins circulation but once 4 billion coins are added to total circulation the price will most probably reach .00000050 sat.

Lets not forget that presale investors got a 50% discount ,so ICO price is 0.005 $ ( almost .00000100 satoshi ) . They can sell all of their ETN coins even at .00000200 satoshi and still get 2x in returns. Imagine what will their reaction be when they will have the opportunity to sell at .00000400 which is ETNs present value.

X8 PROFITS.


Cryptopia trading played a major role in setting the pricing since its user base and BTC value is the smallest , so the demand and supply were almost in equilibrium.

his is the logical, rational approach. Anything else and anyone else believing the opposite is either ignorant , crazy or worse does it in order to manipulate the market.

I will surely do a massive buy in for ETN coins because i believe in the project using my ETN mining profits , but not at these NON REALISTIC price levels.

So, i am asking again ,please do the maths, be rational and dont spread rumors..


You are only devaluating and harming the project.

Ok @cafetools ?
 
Please.


Your .005 price is wrong at a 50% bonus. .005 would be a 100% bonus cutting the price in half. 50% bonus puts the price $.00666666667

First , i was trying to prove a point not to accurate depict the price , hope you ll agree with the rest of what i wrote.
Second , no it is not wrong. The prices are roughly approximated in Euros not Dollars .
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [LAUNCHED][POW]⚡ELECTRONEUM⚡Offical Moderated Thread on: November 05, 2017, 08:50:51 PM
Hello Contraband,

I know the old thread was also closed because of all those negativity-spreading trolls and liars. In this thread though, the user "Cafetools" keeps spamming overly optimistic comments, making this thread very repetitive to read, as there are multiple of those comments on each page.

Was just about to post exactly the same thing man. I totally agree.

It almost irritates me as those comments seem, the least, manipulative.

We all believe that ETN will manage to trade eventually higher that ICO , BUT telling people to buy NOW at these levels because " IT WILL REACH 5$ BY END OF YEAR" and the rest BS is basically unacceptable and can only do harm to the project.

We all have the right to our opinion and beliefs , as long as they are not used to misguide and manipulate possible investors.  

ETN will follow the typical pattern each and every ICO and new entry candidate follows. The price skyrocketed the first 48 hours because of the miners seeking to profit from the enormous hype Electroneum managed to create during the ICO and pre launch phase and taking advantage of the low algo difficulty which is always the case in blockchain launches.

But this price is not representative at ETN current market state and circulation.

Once the ICO investors  ,and wannabe-investors who seek to get an easy buck, get their hands on their coins they will most probably sell at least their 80% at market price which may seem normal considering the less than 10 million coins circulation but once 4 billion coins are added to total circulation the price will most probably reach .00000050 sat.

Lets not forget that presale investors got a 50% discount ,so ICO price is 0.005 $ ( almost .00000100 satoshi ) . They can sell all of their ETN coins even at .00000200 satoshi and still get 2x in returns. Imagine what will their reaction be when they will have the opportunity to sell at .00000400 which is ETNs present value.

X8 PROFITS.


Cryptopia trading played a major role in setting the pricing since its user base and BTC value is the smallest , so the demand and supply were almost in equilibrium.

his is the logical, rational approach. Anything else and anyone else believing the opposite is either ignorant , crazy or worse does it in order to manipulate the market.

I will surely do a massive buy in for ETN coins because i believe in the project using my ETN mining profits , but not at these NON REALISTIC price levels.

So, i am asking again ,please do the maths, be rational and dont spread rumors..


You are only devaluating and harming the project.

Ok @cafetools ?
 
Please.
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