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I'm new here.
I earned good amount of Bitcoin in the last months and instead of cashing them out, I would like to know how I can trade with them to make some profit with this money.
I never did - Bitcoin Trade - or Money Trade in the past but I would really love to learn, at least understand what I can do with.
Any advice please about how I can start trading?
I was thinking about having them on an Exchanger, buying $/EUR when BTC goes down, then again exchanging against BTC and so having made some profit.
Is this not the right way to trade? Any other suggestion please? I did not yet use any other currency till now.
Thank you very much for your advice!
Long life to this forum!
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very easy if you want to trade anounymous, just go to coinmarketcap and see platform exchanger. or you send to some businesses that receive bitcoin for $ deposit, but can also withdraw $.
not sure what you mean here, can you explain please?  On shapeshift you can trade anonymous. They even don't ask for an email. You needn't register to trade there. But they are quite expensive. You have to pay attention on each step.
I will check this You could do this on any exchange, why are you asking? if you know how to avoid scam coins, all of the exchanges are good for trading to increase your Bitcoin balance, there are some exchanges with limits on Bitcoin withdrawals, I deposited $100 in BTC and bought some alt coin, after a few days I sold them for $120 and when I tried to withdrawal BTC they stalled sending for 6 hours, when that happens you should never use such exchanges again.
If you are going to use Yobit, you should just do your trades without looking at any other coin. lol
They didn't list my activity token, bad Yobit.
Are you talking here about Yobit? What do you mean with "how to avoid scam coins"? Please how to avoid it? |
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Schlauerweise sagst Du etwas (glaubwürdiges) dazu. Ansonsten forderst Du eine Spekulation geradezu heraus, und die wird nahezu sicher zu Deinen Ungunsten ausfallen. Eine glaubwürdige Geschichte möchte dagegen erst mal wiederlegt werden.
Rechtlich gesehen musst Du (in DE) etwas erklären und das Finanzamt muss Dir - sofern der Sachbearbeiter es nicht glauben möchte - das Gegenteil nachweisen. Falls sich der Sachbearbeiter an die Gesetze halten möchte bist Du also fein raus, sobald Du eine glaubwürdige Geschichte zu erzählen hast. Möchte dieser sich allerdings nicht an die Gesetze halten, dann gilt - wie üblich - das Recht des Stärkeren.
Na dann würde ich sagen, ich hätte mal über SKYPE Deutsch unterrichtet und wurde einfach über BTC bezahlt, und natürlich hoch bezahlt. Dann wolle mal man mir das Gegenteil beweisen  Geht doch |
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I know that you can sell your bitcoin to trade plattform like coinbase etc.. BUT you need to verify your identify, so it' s not anonymously.
How do you cashout your bitcoins anonymously then?
Face-to-face cash through localbitcoins.com is pretty anonymous. It can be more expensive though because someone has to take the time to meet with you. I think this is still not anonymous way because you will meet someone i think the only way to cashout bitcoin anonymously and withdraw into fiat i think bitcoin debit or credit cards there are some bitcoin cards you can anonymously withdraw and deposit your bitcoin.. Just sharing this link to see the list of debit cards and credit card support withdrawal world wide to any atm machine.. Check this updated thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1242788.0But even using a method like that is not really anonymous, since you need to withdraw from an ATM and almost all of those ATMs have cameras in them so unless you are planning to look incredibly suspicious by wearing a hat or something you are going to be recorded when you withdraw the money. This is very pertinent comment! ATM have always camera But the question now, If you are using your own ATM card (meaning you did not use someone's else card or stolen card), where should be the issue even if they have you on camera? These data will be not kept forever and even if, you did not break any law by withdrawing your money. Or did you? 2- The local wallet that I’ve been using allows me to cash out my bitcoin through a security bank atm without the need of verification or identification but then of course the use of the local wallet would need some identity so I’m not sure if that would work for you. When it comes with money matters, I think that identification really is needed. However, I think that there are other procedures out there that would allow you to do so since there’s not much regulation for bitcoin yet unlike with cash.
That sounds even more interesting. But what do you mean with "security bank atm without the need of verification or identification"? What do you define with " security bank" please? This sounds really interesting 3- Just sell your bitcoins on localbitcoins.com to a trusted trader for cash, this is the best way till now to cash out anonymously, but first check the trust level of the trader before starting trade.
There also the risk that when selling to someone for face-2-face, you meet with the police and they ask you where you got the money from  What will you do if this happens? But definitely going through localbitcoins, you can sell your BTC to Trusted Trader for cash, will be good idea! |
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very easy if you want to trade anounymous, just go to coinmarketcap and see platform exchanger. or you send to some businesses that receive bitcoin for $ deposit, but can also withdraw $.
withdraw deposit to my account? That's not anymore anonymous  |
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I had 2 bitcoins on bittrex when i used to trade (bitcoin was around $500) but it was still profitable because i remember that i used to make more than 0.10 bitcoins a day, it was not too much money but it was profitable. once that bitcoin started to rise i stopped trading because i had some losses over it.
But it was a nice exchange, anyway, i will never trust in one and that is why i prefer to hold my bitcoins on my own wallet.
so how do you do the trade now? As holding your BTC on your wallet (like I do now) will not give you any profit |
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When i used to do some daily trading i was only holding no more than 0.20 in the exchange, i remember that i had them on Poloniex because i didn't bought the Trezor wallet by that time, now that i have the offline wallet i store all my bitcoins in there because i am afraid of leaving coins in exchanges, you will never know if someday it became scam, because it happened before.
But regarding to poloniex, it is a good exchange, it always had some acussations but it is a normal exchange, one of the most trusted.
so basically you send the coins there only when you want to sell / buy? |
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Generally I will leave around 0.1 BTC on Exchangers in case I need trading at some point. I mainly use Nova exchange because they have DeepOnion not bad, but 0.10 you can't make real profit on this.... So guys, you will not let more than 1000$ on Exchangers? |
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We know that generally its not recommended to store your coins on Exchangers. But we want to trade as well and earn some money from it. So how much maximal would you recommend to store on any exchanger for trade? Which Exchanger do you use then? After those accusations here, I would NOT use POLONIEX (?) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614405.100Some suggested HitBTC |
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What about PAYEER? Any actual Review available?
and their fees?
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I know that you can sell your bitcoin to trade plattform like coinbase etc.. BUT you need to verify your identify, so it' s not anonymously.
How do you cashout your bitcoins anonymously then?
Face-to-face cash through localbitcoins.com is pretty anonymous. It can be more expensive though because someone has to take the time to meet with you. I think this is still not anonymous way because you will meet someone i think the only way to cashout bitcoin anonymously and withdraw into fiat i think bitcoin debit or credit cards there are some bitcoin cards you can anonymously withdraw and deposit your bitcoin.. Just sharing this link to see the list of debit cards and credit card support withdrawal world wide to any atm machine.. Check this updated thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1242788.0This list is very interesting. Thank you very much! Will have a look at it!! |
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It’s not anymore easy to trade anonimously like it used to. Bitcoin has lost great deal of anonimity, transactions have become much more easier to follow and trace and exchangers are obliged with anti money laundering laws and anti terrorism laws so they have to gather your personal data if they want to keep legitimitet business. Using some shady exchangers or similar service providers without reputation is very tricky and you could end up losing your coins.
So probably the only good choice to trade in anonimity, of course if you don’t use the bank accounts, is localbitcoins.
localbitcoins.com will be good to withdraw. But first I want, instead of keeping the money on wallet, to have it anonymously on some trade plattform. Sell for USD or EUR (not withdrawing) and later buy BTC etc and when i made some profit, moving it back to my wallet on localbitcoins for sale. That's the idea |
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Hello community,
I have earned some Bitcoin in the past by selling some services and products. Currently I keep all my coins on Electrum Wallet.
However I would love to trade them, but I want to keep my anonymity. Basically I want to have them on some trade exchangers just for sell/buy when price goes up and down.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Also Any website I can use to trade anonymously.
Thank you very much!!!
Use YoBit or any other exchange that is popular. Make sure that you aren't going against the rules of those exchanges Don't use YoBit, that's possible one of the worst exchanges that is bordeline a scam with the amount of shitcoins that they allow to trade on, not even mentioning the fact that they shut down accounts for no reason and aren't regulated in the least. If you want anonymotity, go to Paxful, Local Bitcoins, or use this site and exchange with somone for an untraceable method that couldn't be connected to you. Might be tough to find a good balance between anonymity and the fee that they're going to charge for this trade, but it's still better then using Coinbase and giving everything up (even though I personally am fine with using CB) Yeahh just found this on YoBit seems really scam: https://www.cryptocompare.com/exchanges/yobit/reviews/USDBut guys, my goal is not to withdraw but to keep selling/buy on Trading plattform without withdrawing. When I made some Win, I can send it to my wallet and exchange on localbitcoin or something like that. Is there a plattform where we can do this without ID verification? |
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I know that you can sell your bitcoin to trade plattform like coinbase etc.. BUT you need to verify your identify, so it' s not anonymously.
How do you cashout your bitcoins anonymously then?
Face-to-face cash through localbitcoins.com is pretty anonymous. It can be more expensive though because someone has to take the time to meet with you. Well I think localbitcoin can be one way. I've heard about ATM Bitcoin Card. What about these? |
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I want to buy and sell bitcoin anonymously. Most sites require our credentials for account verification. Are there any reliable sites you use anonymously? BTC/USD, BTC/LTC etc.
Yobit.net requires NO identification to trade cryptocurrencies. I don't think BitFinex or Payeer require any authentication to convert from BTC/USD. You could also trade on this forum fairly anonymously. But in exchanges you can only deposit bitcoins and other altcoins too. So, if you only have USD or any other fiat currency then you have a problem depositing in exchanges. Mycelium.
I'm curious, how do you buy from mycelium? Isn't mycelium just a wallet. Correct me if I'm wrong. I just downloaded the app on my phone and did not see any way to buy bitcoins in the wallet. Please look at the exchanges I suggest before saying that you cnnot deposit fiat into them. Yobit.net accepts Payeer and other methods of adding Fiat. Payeer isn't even an altcoin exchange. It's a place for storing USD that seemed to incorporate Bitcoin a while back into it's system. And Bitfinex allows conversion to USD as the main currency to convert to as well (after Bitcoin). Before opening a new thread for this I was thinking asking here. Someone mentioned Yobit -> is it still something we can trust? Poloniex -> Someone said, you can trade 2000$ without any verification? My idea here, I earned some BTC but i want to trade with them, and exchange them somehow after some months against Fiatmoney. Firstly I don't need Fiat. I just want to trade them somehow anonymously, meaning I sell when price goes high, when goes down I buy etc.. .and when i need them, i withdraw to my other wallet). Where can I do it please? I'm new in Trading, sorry for my questions. |
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I know that you can sell your bitcoin to trade plattform like coinbase etc.. BUT you need to verify your identify, so it' s not anonymously.
How do you cashout your bitcoins anonymously then?
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Hallo, angenommen Ich hätte Bitcoin verdient mit verschiedene Dienstleistungen. Nun entscheide ich mich diese zu verkaufen über beliebige Börse und lasse mir das Geld über mein deutsches Konto auszahlen. Jetzt habe ich JA Gewinn gemacht und soll das in meiner Steuererklärung angeben bezüglich Versteuerung. Muss ich nun begründen wie auf die Coins gekommen bin? Und Was ist wenn ich nicht über die Quelle von den Coins sprechen möchte bzw. nicht angeben möchte? So nun angenommen ich gebe einfach die BTC an, kein Angabe über dier Herkunft und nur wenig Ausgaben habe bzw. deklariert (also Ausgaben für den Verkauf von BTC). Wie viel prozent muss ich dem FA zahlen? Ich weiss dass man nach 1 Jahr alles steuerfrei haben kann. Also nehmen wir den Fall 2: Ich habe woher auch immer BITCOINs erworben. Ich lasse sie auf meine Wallets mehr 12 Monate lang, dann verkaufe ich sie über irgendwelche Börse. Wie sieht dann hier aus? Immer noch Steuerfrei? Also heißt es, es muss nicht in der Steuererklärung abgegeben? Sagen wir hier NEIN, die BANK würde doch mal fragen woher kommt das Geld oder nicht? Oder geht es hier wirklich nur um Bitcoins die man vor 1 Jahr mit Nachweis gekauft hat? (auf irgendwelche Exchanger) Sagen wir ich hätte die BTC gegen Bargeld gekauft oder Dienstleistungen. Ich lasse die 1 Jahr auf Wallet stehen, dann über Börse verkaufen, was ist denn dann? Vielen Dank Leute! |
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Hello community,
I have earned some Bitcoin in the past by selling some services and products. Currently I keep all my coins on Electrum Wallet.
However I would love to trade them, but I want to keep my anonymity. Basically I want to have them on some trade exchangers just for sell/buy when price goes up and down.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Also Any website I can use to trade anonymously.
Thank you very much!!!
Use YoBit or any other exchange that is popular. Make sure that you aren't going against the rules of those exchanges How do you stay anonymously there then? |
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Ich muss dann wirlkich gar keine Steuern zahlen? Wenn du auf rechtlich und steuerlich einwandfreiem Wege an die 10000 BTC gekommen bist und seit dem Zeitpunkt, an dem du sie erhalten hast und dem Zeitpunkt, an dem du sie verkauft hast, mehr als 12 Monate vergangen sind, sind die Gewinne komplett steuerfrei. Es könnten auch 1 Mio BTC sein, es wäre nicht anders. Vermögenssteuer haben wir nämlich (noch) nicht. Mich würde interessieren: fragt nicht das Finanzamt woher kommt das Geld? Falls du nichts dazu sagen kannst/willst, was ist denn dann? |
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Hello community,
I have earned some Bitcoin in the past by selling some services and products. Currently I keep all my coins on Electrum Wallet.
However I would love to trade them, but I want to keep my anonymity. Basically I want to have them on some trade exchangers just for sell/buy when price goes up and down.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Also Any website I can use to trade anonymously.
Thank you very much!!!
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