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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Many Countries Government trying to stop bitcoin, what reason ....... on: December 11, 2018, 05:02:11 PM
First reason that they.come up with is to prevent money laundering before it even becomes big. I don't see and feel the need for such bans as money laundering and fraud can still be accomplished using traditional financial instruments. If only they see the bigger picture and just allow bitcoin and crypto to flourish and find ways to monetize it instead of banning, that'll be great and far more beneficial than their proposed solution, but I guess some countries wouldn't just accept modern technologies easily, as evidenced by these countries banning bitcoin without a pleasing and convincing argument.
Expecting them to do money laundering, they only collect part of their sales, make them make the money they exchange, their income from crypto of course they will exchange it for real money in their country, I think it won't make a mistake. But I see many people who do money laundering from the results of their fraud, of course that is what needs to be eradicated, because fraud often happens everywhere.
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: should we be happy or stay alert because of some foul play? on: December 11, 2018, 04:55:28 PM
We both know the purpose of bitcoin creation was to give people financial free and liberation from the government which is the reason why it was decentralized in natiure. But, lately more banks are stepping in into Bitcoin and block chain despite they knew Bitcoin and block chain systems are their competitors.
The question is should we be happy or stay alert because of some foul play?

will,in this situation we must stay alert,of what maybe happen in the crypto in the near future ,because we already know before that the banks is threaten from the coming out of block chain and bitcoin system,thats why ,otherwise in my own opinion there is a good and bad effect of bitcoin for the stepping into the crypto worlds,because maybe it is the threat or good to the worlds of cryptocurrency investment.

People must always have a backup plan and do invest only upto the risk you can take it. Do not go all in crypto considering that every time you will end up making money. If market do not follow what you expect and falls then you end up losing the money and may be you would have to suffer if you were depend upon that money only.


All have their own plans, but future plans must have meaning and always be vigilant, because we also have to have reserves in the future.
So to make investments do not have to be fully spent, but also need to be supported as guards if they experience a decline.
And they will not feel disappointed if their long-term investments make a lot of money.
23  Economy / Speculation / Re: Investors are not to panic - game is on? on: December 11, 2018, 04:45:33 PM
As in sport the players tire but  the spirit of the game continue to exist ,similarly investors are not to panic from declining prices of BTC as It will continue to dominate the crypto market in future ,so nothing to worry,prices if falls may rise again.Do you agree with me.
I agree with your words, but all must have confidence, if they have self-confidence, of course they will never panic, and will not feel disappointed, for investors who have known bitcoin for a long time, they will never be afraid if the price drops very far especially the price deteriorates, because they believe that the price will rise again after that. I also believe prices will rise again, but I don't know when prices will rise.
24  Economy / Economics / Re: The mentality of an average wannabe investor on: December 10, 2018, 04:04:43 PM
Go to some mainstream forums and talk to people outside the tech space once in a while and you'll see why they aren't making money and why they will never make money.


Not only investors can lose, but almost all now, because they have seen a market that is not too friendly. Indeed, today is the best to buy and collect as much as possible, I am sure investors are also collecting now, because they believe that in the coming year, market prices will rise high, so they only see that bitcoin is down to fix and settle.
25  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin need a miracle on: December 10, 2018, 03:57:45 PM
What y'all got to say about the cryptocurrency market situation at the moment?

There is nothing to be said. No miracle is needed. Just the bear market to end. Price will stop decreasing then and become stable. Half year latter it will slowly start to grow. Most likely a year form now price of Bitcoin will already be higher then right now.
Yes, there is no need for miracles, nothing can be said at the current price. We all consider this as usual. We can only wait until the price actually rises, the market price will rise slowly, but it cannot be known when the price will rise.
I think to assess the growth of bitcoin do it with their own research, not with predictions, because predictions will not be a guideline for all of us.
26  Economy / Economics / Re: Who are benefited with cryptocurrency? on: December 10, 2018, 03:49:33 PM
From the bearish market it seema that there are individuals who were benefited with cryptocurrency and taken it as an early christmas gift for them. Probably those who control the market are mostly likely to be the direct benefactors of bear market. What do you think and who do you think control the market of cryprocurrency?
I don't think that any investors are profiting right now. I mean, they are able to buy low, sure, but then the prices go down even lower, so they are kind of losing money like everyone else. Nobody's controlling the market, it's just stupid individuals falling for FUD and smarty pants egoistic individuals who are consciously contributing to the dump in order to buy the cryptos even cheaper. These two categories of people migt be massive enough to cause all these problems. As for those who profit - I can only think of those betters who put money on crypto price prediction and rightly guess when the prices will drop.

Yes, you are right, no one controls the market, no one will know when the market goes up or down, we all just wait and look forward. If I see from the experience of people who have joined for a long time, most investors play at very low prices, because with low prices many investors collect it, so this is one of the opportunities for investors to survive in the long run.
27  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Issue about Bitcoin in the future on: December 09, 2018, 04:41:32 PM
it sounds good if the bitcoin is leveraged the future becomes a good sign and in my opinion this is more than what i think about the future i am sure bitcoin will be good and stable
Bitcoin will never be"stable". People already know if bitcoin has very high volatile, it's can up so high and down so fast too (just like roller coaster)

Yes, you are right, no one can know when the price of bitcoin rises and also the price will go down, it all depends on demand.
If someone makes a prediction by carrying a million dreams, that is all absurd, it cannot be trusted if only a prediction, if the prediction is not on target, it will definitely make people feel disappointed.
So maybe they should know that we are all just waiting when prices will rise, not waiting for prices to stabilize, bitcoin will never be stable.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How can I stop thinking about Cryptocurrency so much on: December 09, 2018, 04:33:02 PM
I didn't think about Cryptocurrency as much last year, but now that the prices have dropped so much I think about it more often to the point that it has become the most frequent subject on my mind and I'd rather stop thinking about it so much.
Why do you think about it, it will make you more stressful, you have to think about it like sea water rises and falls, just waiting for the price to rise by itself. No need to rush to make you panic more.
My advice is that you have to make an investment that has a very long period of time, you don't have to bother thinking about it, but you just have to wait until the price goes up.
29  Economy / Speculation / Re: $ 3400 is the lowest bottom? on: December 07, 2018, 03:56:36 PM
All price predictions for Bitcoin seem to be very negative at this time. I used to rely on technical analysis and various information to give a article: bitcoin will return $ 1500. It seems that a lot of optimists think that $ 4800 would be the bottom. But after a month, at this moment it seems $ 1500 is absolutely possible. Tell me the price lowest bitcoin you ever thought would be how much $?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5071669.0

Why are you looking for the lowest price?
No one can find out the lowest price, while predictions like in the past have said that the bitcoin price predictions for the end of 2018 say that it will rise high, but the reality is not in line with all of us, and now they are all silent at prices that have fallen far, I also saw them start to move away and start to decrease for those who are interested in using bitcoin, but I'm not saying that bitcoin will be "extinct". I am sure that bitcoin will continue to grow for the following years.
30  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Holding BTC at this satge is a bad idea? on: December 07, 2018, 03:48:02 PM
Everyone of us now was suffering loses we invest or we buy bitcoin when the value was high but now it continues  falling so it means still hold our coins. Holding is not the bad idea but you are thinking that selling your coins in the lower price so that is not the good idea. The best thing to do was invest buy more bitcoin when the value is low and hold for the long term and surely the value will rise and you will earn.

 Shocked Not ..
do not do it to sell at a price that is currently declining, it is a very bad idea, because if prices decline, you have to buy and collect as much as possible, investment is certainly the most favorite alternative for people, because the work is very simple, they just wait when the price will rise, but continue to survive in no hurry to sell it. It takes strong self confidence not to be tempted by other people to sell at cheap prices.
31  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Computer virus used to steal cryptos? on: December 07, 2018, 03:30:02 PM
As I have seen from a website about China's nabbing crypto thieves.  So, being a computer genius has a lot of advantages to get rich so easily with cryptocurrencies if they will not be caught.  Unlike us who makes clean living by trading, mining, investing and bounty hunting, they tend to get easy income in their professional thieves way.  Might be this is the reason why bitcoin's value is going down.  Just my thoughts..

Check out the link about this news I have red.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/china-nabs-crypto-thieves-social-120041067.html

Sometimes it needs to be careful, that thieves can also use applications embedded in their own devices, they can control our devices with their applications embedded on our computers, if they download applications from the browser, then if instructed to install them on their devices itself, of course it will cause all files to change to be similar to the file that was downloaded before. So be careful downloading lots of files from the internet.
32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Need bitcoin control? on: December 07, 2018, 03:16:29 PM
In the foreseeable future, each developed country will create its own crypto currency, provided by the national currency.

How much can this contradict the very idea of ​​Bitcoin as a free, decentralized system?

Need cryptocurrency state control?




Of course, I am sure that in developed countries they will definitely create their own cryptocurrency, because cryptocurrency has grown rapidly, so there is no harm if the cryptocurrency develops itself in developed countries.
Seeing the future of cryptocurrency, more and more people believe that cryptocurrency resembles real money, and cryptocurrency is a very attractive income for everyone who understands its use.
33  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUD from Large Media Outlets when BItcoin Goes Down! on: December 06, 2018, 03:50:27 PM
Those aren't even that bad compared to the "bitcoin is dead" articles from other sites. Also, there are really nothing new. These articles with clickbait-ish titles are the articles that sells most to the public(unfortunately), hence we frequently see posts like these.
I don't really believe in some articles that say "bitcoin is dead" because it will cause panic, and many feel disappointed, so they have to do their own research, and they must understand that the article is not fully trusted.
It should be noted that almost many sites say that bitcoin is dead, I think their article is very crazy,
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Yes We Believe in BTC even as the Price Falls on: December 06, 2018, 03:38:49 PM
A lot of people are worried.  I say worry not.   Eventualy the price will hit new highs beyond 20k, no question.   The real question is when, and nobody knows for sure.

Let the price fall, and fall it will, until people have given up.  Then, the price can start 5 wave moves up again.   This is how it always plays out.

https://www.swiftcointalk.org/marketplace/bitcoin-price-forecast/
Let prices like running water, don't worry about current prices, no one will know the price goes up, I don't care what people panic to say, I keep collecting my favorite coins, and I save until prices go up high. Don't fantasize if the price can go up to 5 waves, you have to stay calm, and just wait for the price to rise. I am still optimistic about the situation that is worsening now.
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Even people in here now give up on Bitcoin on: December 05, 2018, 01:51:38 PM
Can you be more clear about your opinion? What are you specifically referring to when you say that it is unlikely to recover? Do you think that this is the end of BTC? I always like a good discussion so I would like to hear what do you think about this, while BTC hit the rock bottom and stop to exist?
Maybe they lack picnics, so they make an opinion like that, it's very strange they say that bitcoin won't recover, but they have no basis that they say bitcoin won't recover, maybe they run out of money, and feel panic, so they make opinions like the word they say.
I think if we as bitcoin users don't deserve to have thoughts that cause anxiety, because the nature of anxiety will cause emotional feelings.
36  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin started to Die. on: December 05, 2018, 01:38:11 PM
As other investment scam being introduced from all other parts of the world bitcoin could be consider one of them. It has been slowly dying now because people do not believe on it already. Why? Bitcoin has no use and only few of the establishment uses bitcoin as a form of payment system and as an asset for the users.  
Of course fraudsters will automatically go extinct, because they see that prices are declining, and they assume that prices will not rise again, they think that the fraud they run will not work anymore, there are still many investment platforms that survive. , because they consider that their platform is liked by people who feel confident about the platform they are using.
37  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't sell your bitcoin expert warn. on: December 04, 2018, 04:26:15 PM
Guess how many so called "experts" also said that $5000 was the bottom?
Guess how many so called "experts" said that we would have $50,000 at the end of the year?

I'm not saying that you should sell your bitcoin, but "expert" predictions doesn't mean crap. No one knows with 100% certainty where the prices will go. Also, the article seems to be very inaccurate in the first place. Title says "Don’t sell your Bitcoins, experts warn", whereas the tweet of Phillip Nunn shown in the article isn't even related to price.
Not all articles can be a guide for us, because there are many articles or news that ultimately only information that is not on target, even predictions can not be our guide, because eventually it will become disappointed if it is not on target.
Yes you are right, I also think that most "experts" are only guessing now, but not 100% correct.
I think it depends on our own thinking, if we feel it is true, then according to their own research. and if it's wrong, there's no need to continue.
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin to drop to 43$ and then die on: December 04, 2018, 03:42:11 PM
Good insights from Joseph Carson, the Chief Security Scientist at Thycotic Software who has analyzed the likely decline for Bitcoin

Quote: "The most likely scenario is that bitcoin will die; my current valuation of bitcoin is approximately US $43 as opposed to the hyped and manipulated valuation. "

For the full overview see here:

https://coingape.com/bitcoin-price-predictions-got-wilder-predicts-bitcoin-will-die/
The article brought sadness to all of us, I thought it was just their prediction, maybe it wouldn't happen around US $ 43, it made everyone feel scared and panic.
But if the article is only to read, it doesn't matter, but it must be made only as insight, hopefully the news won't happen.
39  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the price of Bitcoin hit 12 to 13k end of this year? on: December 04, 2018, 03:32:57 PM
It is hard to predict price but bitcoin as a master can easy go to 12k buy end of this year. I am realistic and not romantic that where i see the price. What price you predict btc will be by end of year.
It seems that at the end of this year there is no guarantee of high prices, but please do your own research, so that no one feels disadvantaged, because if we only expect from predictions, it will not be a clue for us all.
But keep trying hard and work hard, and just wait until the price really brings good news for all of us. Continue to collect favorite coins for sale later when prices rise.
40  Economy / Speculation / Re: What do you do when price falls? on: December 04, 2018, 03:16:30 PM
As you see, bitcoin's price felt from 6500 to 3700. From the very first day, there was panic and fall was very intense. In situations like this one, how do you act? Do you sell bitcoins, wait a little for more fall and then buy more with same cash? Or so you fully support bitcoin and hold it?
I ask this because want to know what community here does in such situations, do you do good for bitcoin or worsen situation?
Of all friends who ask like you, all answers depend on each of their research.
I am personally, I hold it back, and I collect everything, I will not sell it, I do not care what they say, I am sure the previous year also experienced what it is today, but a few years later it will definitely rise again.
No need to panic, but panic if you have already sold it.
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