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Down 2000 , up 500
rinse and repeat.
Yeah, whatever everybody is saying on charts and..... its a fact that for the moment the market given us a pump little higher than the last one and dips down to pump again but allways with little lower ending ..... i don’t have a problem with This , i Just hope its breaks out and don’t give to much chance to the f****** Guy’s that knows better and allways telling me i read in the articles BTC is Going to go to 2K and then i Will buy iT and blabla while they have such a Nice uppertunity to start buying allready , i even would hate iT if Some of the f**** buy @this prices please leave them in the dust , all these i know better Guy’s whitout any longterm picture.... Don't worry, these kind of people don't have the balls to buy if it actually goes down to 2k. For them bitcoin is always either "to expensive right now" or "bitcoin is dead". At the same time they bitch about how bitcoin is easy money, bitcoiners were just lucky, blablabla, yet they fail on making any "easy money" from bitcoin themselfes, it's hilarious. |
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Moin,
ein User sprach mich auf folgenden Teil des FAQs an:
Steuern auf Coins aus Mining
Die geminten Coins sind am Tag der Erzeugung als Einnahmen aus sonstigen Leistungen zu besteuern.
Hierzu ein Auszug aus der Fachliteratur:
Soweit das direkte Mining (sog. Solo-Mining) noch im privaten Bereich durchgeführt wird, kommt eine Steuerbarkeit der geschürften Kryptowährung (sog. Blockreward) nicht in Betracht. Beim Mining entsteht die Kryptowährung direkt im Vermögen des Miners augrund dessen Interaktion mit der Blockchain. Sie wird also nicht von einem Dritten angeschafft, sondern selber hergestellt. Der bloße private Vermögenszuwachs ist kein steuerbarer Vorgang. Aber auch die spätere Veräußerung der Kryptowährung ist nicht steuerbar. Denn die Herstellung ist keine Anschaffung i.S.d. § 23 (1) Nr. 2 EStG. Die private Veräußerung selbst hergestellter Wirtschaftsgüter ist steuerlich unbeachtlich.
Neben der Blockreward erhält der erfolgreiche Miner die in dem Block gesammelten Transaktionsgebühren. Da diese Gebühren von den an der Transaktion beteiligten Personen für das Mining gewährt werden, unterfallen sie nach einem Teil der Literatur dem Anwendungsbereich des § 22 Nr. 3 EStG. (Richter/Augel, FR 2017, 937 (946); Pinkernell, Ubg 2016, 19 (23))
Aufgrund der Besonderheit, dass es sich beim Mining um eine Art Wettbewerb handelt und nur der Gewinner die Kryptowährung nebst Transaktionsgebühren erhält, ist die Steuerbarkeit insgesamt fraglich.
Warnhinweis: Dies gilt nicht für das gewerbliche Mining. Der Übergang ist fließend!
wie sieht das jetzt bei PoS aus? Mal abgesehen davon, dass man den Begriff mining evtl. ändern müsste, passiert doch aber ansonsten das gleiche? Moin raetsch, PoS wird bisher nicht explizit erwähnt, ich würde es aber analog so anwenden! Gruß Lässt sich das auch auf Pool-Mining anwenden? (normales Pool-Mining mit eigener Hardware, nicht dieses cloud pseudo gemine) |
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@AntonKreil https://twitter.com/AntonKreil/status/978718487647416320 Hey CryptoCunts. Thats all in less than 1 week and 1 of them is less than 1 day! Plus I have another 23 positions in OPTIONS! Profit in the hundreds of thousands of dollars & you dont deserve to see it. See the % gains. Fuck your HODLgang Bullshit. Grandad makes serious money! 😂 8:40 PM - 27 Mar 2018 snip loool, weapon grade cunt right there. |
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Now, onto more important business. How many shekels is it worth to you to keep your post on the 20,000th page?  Like three fiddy? |
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Is it just me or is the mood in here turning very #CRAEFULGANG?
Craefulgang, you wouldn't wanna spill your Covfefe Who has summoned me? |
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it's GTFO
If GTFO is in any way a viable option, and you are not risking anything irreplaceable, then GTFO is always the best option. Even if you are certain to emerge the victor. On that I agree. -- Tripple bottom around 6k incoming? |
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In my countys news, like an hour ago, they told us that even common objects like a pen are good to defend against an attacker with a knife, can you belive that? Good luck, lol. Can't make that shit up.
If all you have is a pen, it is better than bare-handed. A pen has about the same cross-section as a knife. If you can grip it tight enough not to slip, it will stab just as deeply. Lack of a real handle makes gripping difficult, and of course there is no ability to slash. But the defensive mindset will be prepared to make use of any available tool. It might be better than nothing and somehow be useful in the hands of a trained person, but for the average joe, it's GTFO or be done. Yes, I know that on that distance even a gun won't help, but a pen, that's just hilarious. |
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snip I’ve been to Vegas twice & going in June for a third time, going shooting is one of my favourite hobbies over there.
Hve you been to Front Sight out in Pahrump? Highly recommended. Not yet, might have to give it a go. The one I’ve done twice is called ‘Bullets & Burgers’ believe it or not. No need to go to Las Vegas for that. Even in my country, despite its shitty weapon laws, you need no nothing to go to the ranch (as long as you don't want to own/carry a weapon). Just make a reservation, drop some cash and grab your gun, no shits given. Unfortunately we get no full autos but we have .50 BMGs  . |
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It’s one of the things that living in the UK is shit for, not being able to carry a gun. WHEN bitcoin moon’s I’m moving to the US & will amass a huge Arsenal of weapons for shit’s & gigs.
To wit, this is one of the reasons I legally conceal carry whenever I leave the house. There are enough people IRL that know what I'm (approximately) worth, and I consider concealed (or open) carrying as insurance against a possible $5 wrench-attack. In my countys news, like an hour ago, they told us that even common objects like a pen are good to defend against an attacker with a knife, can you belive that? Good luck, lol. Can't make that shit up. Or were they talking about a pen shot from a gun? |
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As soul-crushing as it feels for the price to capriciously fluctuate $2-3,000 from one day to the next: I am still incredulous the price hasn't tested below $5,000 even ONCE since we sliced through it like butter five months ago. The daily 200MA is still RISING and currently sits at ~$9,000. Hell, the 100MA is only now flattening out just over $12,000! The market has more or less ABSORBED all these Mt Gox mega-dookies, like a thirsty sponge, averaging +/-$10,000 for much of the time. At least this time, once we finally pass $10,000 for the last time and eventually hit a new ATH, HODLers will feel like they frucking EARNED it.  There are a lot of new hodlers who jumped on board last year. Going through a market such as this is basically a rite of passage for new hodlers. When this is all over, we'll have a new generation of grizzled, battle-hardened, strong hands. Totally. People always think bitcoin profits are easy money but they for sure never went through bitcoins bull-bear cycles with the markets icy hand grabbing their balls. Doing nothing isn't as easy as it sounds, and only the survivors get rewarded, the weaklings get slaughtered. |
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If you spent around $10k on bitcoins any time between late 2014 and early 2016 at below $500 (let's say average price per BTC was about $500), then you would have 20 BTC - seems like enough for a Lambo. On the other hand, I think that it would NOT be very wise to buy a Lambo unless you have at least 100BTC (so if you have at least 100BTC, then you would be spending less than 20% of your bitcoin holdings on a Lambo). On the other hand (I think that is enough hands for now), if you think that you are going to die soon (within the next year or two), then who cares, you need to have funzies while you are still living... and spend your bitcoins and buy the depreciating Lambo - even if you only have 20 BTC-ish or even less. That's my NOT SO GOOD advices for the day.    20% of the nest egg for a lambo, that's crazy talk. I'd barely be willing to spend that percentage to retire, then maybe lambo if 20% of retirement-money is enough for the lambo. Yes I'm a greedy greedy fuck. I think that you and I are on a similar page in our thinking about buying luxury and depreciating assets with proceeds of our bitcoin investment, so I suppose that I am appealing to the more extravagant folks in this thread. They do exist. One thing that might need to be sussed out is whether we are presuming bitcoins to be the totality of your investments or what kind of size is th rest of your estate. Let's just assume for the sake of argument that the bitcoin holdings constitute a vast majority of your whole wealth (at least 80% or more), and then your figure of 20% of 20% puts you at about 4% of your holdings, and even having some reservations about whether a Lambo would be prudent under those circumstances. I cannot really battle with you on those kind of personal thresholds, because I am likely similar to you in my thinking and probably less than 2% would be my personal threshold, as long as I was feeling sufficiently geared up otherwise to have a decent storage place for the thing and the other lifestyle drama that a lambo would likely bring into my life.. because there is no doubt that spending on a lambo should really symbolize that you have acquired a decent stash of "fuck you" money, rather than you have to stretch your finances in order to be able to fit such a purchase into your lifestyle. Full ACK to that. Although I like Lambos, I would not like the attention it'd get me and it's very low on my imaginary stuff-to-get list. Being a depreciating extreme luxery good also lowers the percentage of coins I'd be willing to spend on it. That said, I currently plan to get a tesla s instead. Cheaper, less-extreme luxery (different threashold) and selling some bcash (ty bcash ceo, lol) as well as other alts brought the strain on my btc holdings down to a comfortable level, so, well, fuck it. Usually I prefer stuff that makes me money but where would be the fun without wasting a bit for fun stuff, right? |
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if you think that you are going to die soon
But what if you're wrong? Turn lambo into living room. |
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Accumulation is happening again. But note that at these price levels, this accumulation could go on for a very long time.
You guys may die of complete boredom in the interim.
But I want my Lambo noooooooooowww!  If you spent around $10k on bitcoins any time between late 2014 and early 2016 at below $500 (let's say average price per BTC was about $500), then you would have 20 BTC - seems like enough for a Lambo. On the other hand, I think that it would NOT be very wise to buy a Lambo unless you have at least 100BTC (so if you have at least 100BTC, then you would be spending less than 20% of your bitcoin holdings on a Lambo). On the other hand (I think that is enough hands for now), if you think that you are going to die soon (within the next year or two), then who cares, you need to have funzies while you are still living... and spend your bitcoins and buy the depreciating Lambo - even if you only have 20 BTC-ish or even less. That's my NOT SO GOOD advices for the day. 20% of the nest egg for a lambo, that's crazy talk. I'd barely be willing to spend that percentage to retire, then maybe lambo if 20% of retirement-money is enough for the lambo. Yes I'm a greedy greedy fuck. |
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The solution to "gun issues" is less retarded people. Look at the Swiss, armed to their teeth but without the clusterfuck.
Except they have the highest gun related deaths in the Europe Not counting suicides? |
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The solution to "gun issues" is less retarded people. Look at the Swiss, armed to their teeth but without the clusterfuck.
Gun issues are merely a symptom, not the cause.
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Edit: nope, he all outta sMerits. No fellatios for me  I've still 70 left. Though being not a source, my demands are expectedly greater. (Who'd know that the merit system would turn into a sex slave trade.) 63 here. lemme know what you get offered so i can price myself accordingly. And I thought that we had all almost run out of sMerits... and it is that people are just hodling their stash. OTOH, what was Theymos thinking? This is a BITCOIN forum, you can't unlearn good practices lol As I'm out of sMerit, consider yourself given a vapeMerit. It's like a real merit and fully backed by the military power of my cat. |
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Rofl maybe they should learn about ssl certs first before they try to offer a bitcoin wallet. |
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Dude I can't wait until we have functional humanoid robots to help around the house. Screw sex dolls, it's utility that really counts.
That's their purpose, isn't it ? Some people use sex dolls to allow them use the car-pool lanes. https://i.imgur.com/NSzt3MN.jpgThat's the realest lookin' sex-doll I ever did see. Sheeit, might just go straight for an evening with that Now I need a 3D model and lots of soft filament because ... umh ... science! |
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From that time I have earned a lot more then I did with bitcoin mainly with XRP, ETH and lately also EOS. For me, bitcoin is for bartenders and cab drivers who react on technical developments with a several year delay.
What are the technical developments of XRP, ETH, and EOS that surpass Bitcoin? It would be nice to know now, rather than a year from now. XRP is good for making fast and cheap transactions. Scales better than bitcoin. Far from decentralized, but it gets the job done if you are in a hurry. [snip] Paypal is good for making fast and cheap transactions. Scales better than bitcoin. Far from decentralized, but it gets the job done if you are in a hurry. XRP is a joke. |
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[snip] Und ich dachte immer ich gehör nicht zu den Leuten, die den Sarkasmus ohne das /s am Ende nicht blicken . Naja so gehts wenn man zuviel gleichzeitig macht. Nochmals: Sorry dafür. Bei sowas reißt mir einfach die Hutschnur. Bzgl. des "Bewegens" von Coins muss man einfach den eigenen Verstand einschalten - und auf keinem Fall irgendeinem Geschwätz von Steuerberatern Beachtung schenken. Kein Problem, nichts passiert  . Das mit Coins bewegen und Haltefrist ist ja eigentlich eh klar, dachte nur da kommt wieder neuer Blödsinn wie das mit der Umsatzsteuer. |
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