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21  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Linux Ubuntu the most secure OS to store my BTC on? on: June 18, 2013, 12:15:06 PM
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but, if you want your machine to be more secure, don't install Java at all.  Not on your computer or the browser plugin, just don't have it on your computer, and if you do, don't go to random Bitcoin-related websites which ask you to activate a Java applet and then accept it without a second thought and come back and say something like "Oh noes my account is haxx0rd modz plz, plz mods plz"
This is a key to being secure, no java.
22  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: xboxgames SCAMMED ME FOR 5BTC! on: June 18, 2013, 12:13:46 PM
Post the screenshots now, otherwise we aren't going to take you seriously. If this is the case, I feel sorry for the people who 'invested' in his gambling thread.
Yeah if true he has scammed a large amount of money and hopefully will be stopped.
23  Other / Meta / Re: Trolls on: June 18, 2013, 12:13:04 PM
A moderator already said they will delete posts marketing in other peoples' threads. Imagine if you made a thread selling and the first five replies were competitors offering other/better deals.
24  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: xboxgames SCAMMED ME FOR 5BTC! on: June 18, 2013, 12:10:36 PM
Why don't you guys use escrow.??
Try to report moneypak as stolen, but i guess it will be too late.

I'll admit it was stupid not using escrow. I was in a rush today and needed coins fast and he was the only one with them at the time that was taking moneypaks.

Lesson learned. Took a chance and it didn't work out. Won't happen again.

Anyway, I have to finish up some work and then I can post screenshots of the PMs.

There some ways to make sure the person sending fiat isn't getting screwed when coins are sent first without escrow. See this thread for an example. Escrow adds another person to trust so you need someone like John K who has more to lose than either participant.

Just don't do deals negotiated over PM. Negotiate in Public and make a paper trail.

Verifying the fiat is a much harder problem though.
Exactly, so as well as using John K as escrow make sure the person you're dealing with is very trusted too.
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do we want to work with money regulators, or keep Bitcoin unregulated? on: June 18, 2013, 12:07:12 PM
If it becomes regulated many will move onto another coin.
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Read! (US Gov & Bitcoin) on: June 18, 2013, 12:05:38 PM
I don't think that will be enforceable.
27  Other / Off-topic / Re: Getting dumped before you even go out. on: June 18, 2013, 12:03:48 PM
Anyone know dat feeling?
How can you get dumped if you never went out with her?
It's when the girls tells you she likes you, and you like her back, but two days later she wants to be friends.

Sounds like you were a last choice, lol. That or you did something to mess things up or she heard something about you.
Haha last choice.
28  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] 1 BTC for $100 Paypal - Positive members on: June 18, 2013, 11:58:00 AM
Sorry if it sounds harsh but that's what this section is about. You are best going to gox as well if you can, it's safer for you too. You can't use paypal though I think.
29  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Beware of PayPal and other reversible transfer services on: June 18, 2013, 11:53:58 AM
I'm not saying nothing will ever happen to anyone with this method, but you're only going to be a real target for them if you do it with thousands of dollars. A few tens or a bit above a hundred dollars and they have bigger fish to fry. It won't come up on their radar unless the person does it with huge amounts or is making it a daily activity.
30  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why BitCoin is about to explode again on: June 18, 2013, 11:48:11 AM
Im not so sure this is something to celebrate about.
31  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] 1 BTC for $100 Paypal - Positive members on: June 18, 2013, 11:40:35 AM
I'll give you whatever Gox would give you.
NBD - that's fair enough.
The thing is that makes the risk of trading with you worthless. They might as well go to gox where they won't have a risk of being scammed.
32  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Litecoin or Feathercoin? on: June 18, 2013, 11:39:10 AM
History shows that there is usually one clear winner with 1-2 secondary players taking < 20% of the market.
My bet is that BTC, LTC and another (zero if it's successful) will be the top three. My current mining strategy is BTC 2/3 LTC 1/3 but that will probably be BTC 1/3 LTC 2/3 in the coming months as difficulty increases.

Obviously sites like coinchoose allow you to find out the most profitable at the moment but they ignore the LTV of the currency. Similarly do all profitability calculations for ASIC's etc - if coins increase in value c.f. fiat by an order of magnitude like a lot of people suggest, then pretty much everything will be profitable.

I tend to think with the coming LTC announcements there will be a rise in the currencies value.
He's right the real market now is bitcoin and a bit of litecoin.
33  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 1 BTC sold for 9832 US Dollars (!) on ebay on: June 18, 2013, 08:58:09 AM
This won't be paid in the end.
34  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Multi-Accounting Scammer Viceroy/buyer on: June 18, 2013, 08:55:26 AM
That is an immature and idiotic thing to do, I hope it gets stopped.
35  Economy / Economics / Re: I want to import Bitcoin - WholeSale on: June 18, 2013, 08:51:41 AM
There are few realistic ways for you to buy Bitcoins: wire transfer your money to an exchange (like Mt.Gox) -or- transfer cash via Western Union and get Bitcoins. (you can do this via #bitcoin-otc channel).

Under any case you will have to pay in major currency (Yen, U.S. dollar, Euro or British Pound).
He said he can't because it's 17% tax.
36  Economy / Economics / Re: Selling Digital Goods with Bitcoin on: June 18, 2013, 08:48:49 AM
Well there has been softwares being sold for BTC, it's growing daily however it hasn't grown commercially.
Most of these sellers are personal sellers that sell their own products.
No serious business paying rent in fiat, with employees who need paying can sell goods in BTC with the price fluctuating so wildly.  It would be irresponsible to do so.

I would not put a major portion of my turnover at risk by selling in fixed BTC prices, it would be suicidal if it was serious money.  Bit coin is just speculative unless it has a (relatively) stable price and can actually be exchanged for real items of value with confidence.




kurios is right it lost $30 value a week ago.
37  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Beware of PayPal and other reversible transfer services on: June 18, 2013, 08:15:51 AM
Nope. They do domino chargebacks from other accounts the money was sent to. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=spawn-&sign=ANY&type=RECV
I've been using the mule account system for a long time and this has never happened. Maybe if it was with thousands of dollars and paypal staff could obviously see it was money laundering or something along those lines, but for small bitcoin deals it never happens. Imagine this in legitimate terms, you sell an expensive product on ebay to someone. Then a week later that person is charged back for whatever reason from someone who paid them. Paypal have no right to take money out of your account because the person who paid you now is in debt. If this was true imagine it on a larger scale, for example going back eight people. It would be complete chaos and nobody would use paypal if at any time their balance could be taken because some random person is in debt.
38  Economy / Lending / Re: CoinLenders :: Get bitcoin loans, and earn interest on your deposits! on: June 18, 2013, 06:45:45 AM
What is the difference with a CD? I am not allowed to withdraw for 30 days but I get 25.5% APR rather than 1.852%?
39  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitinstant removed cash deposit option USA on: June 18, 2013, 06:38:40 AM
It seems that the USA govt is slowly squeezing and tightening the noose on Bitcoin. Sad
They are just doing it for themselves while the rest of the world goes on like normal.
40  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: has anyone tried "double your bitcoins"? on: June 18, 2013, 06:37:41 AM
It is not worth doing.
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