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21  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC-E.com - Not Able to login! WARNING - They are not helping me! on: April 09, 2013, 02:29:07 AM
Well support was very rude! Didnt even take the time over ICQ to talk to me. let me waiting for over an hour and just LEFT! Thats no way to respond to an issue!

BTC-E.com better fixes this soon. They hold my Cash atm and i am not pleased to say the least!

Just remember that this is supposed to be one of the benefits of bitcoin and other alternative currencies, that they are unregulated. 

As soon as people start getting screwed over when companies become unresponsive, they'll quickly turn on the whole concept and demand regulation or exit all together. 

But anyhow .... yeah, I always transfer everything out of these exchanges as soon as I possibly can.  I don't trust any of them to be staffed or maintained properly.
22  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why does bitfloor always seem to be $5-6 higher the MtGox? on: April 06, 2013, 09:29:14 PM
Thanks for the tip!

Only way to really profit from this is:
-10 pile large amounts of USD to MtGox (there are some fees involved)
-20 trade USD to BTC on MtGox
-30 trade BTC back to USD on bitfloor
-40 withdraw your USD from bitfloor (there are some fees involved)
-50 goto 10

Also note that steps 10 and 40 might have significant waiting times.

True, but right now if I were the guy who was on MtGox who has a sell order of 150 for $143, they could transfer it over to bitfloor and sell it for $145 and earn an extra $300 by selling through BitFloor.  Aye, I suppose they'd need to cash out through bitfloor then, and who knows what that might be like.
23  Other / Beginners & Help / Why does bitfloor always seem to be $5-6 higher the MtGox? on: April 06, 2013, 06:31:56 PM
Wouldn't there be an arbitrage opportunity here?
24  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I went to create an account here, and discovered I already had one... on: April 04, 2013, 12:11:20 AM
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I own two bridges in New York.  I'll sell you one for the low low price of 10 bitcoins.  Send it here:  1H9BeuADcoaYftGWSGz78JzBzGjbXSzk1A
25  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin in a bubble right now? on: April 03, 2013, 11:48:05 PM
Who believes that Bitcoin is in a bubble? If so when when do you expect to see Bitcoin start to take a turn downward?

The only answer I can give to this is...  maybe.  

The obvious downside is that this is not widely adopted, and people around the globe avoid it or use something else. This could happen for one of several reasons.  1) There is a technical flaw that compromises the integrity of the protocol.  Either this is caused by a compromise of the fidelity of the data, or possibly in scalability issues. 2) Government regulations get enacted globally that make it cost prohibitive or to risky with regards to personal liberty (e.g. jail for using it).  3) It simply doesn't become widely adopted as a storehouse of value or as a currency.  3a) A competing currency comes along and removes all value.  If there are others, I'm willing to add to the list.  But any of these could cause the value to drop back down to $0-10.

Now the upsides are that if there are no technical flaws discovered (it stands the test of time) and can scale up to handling mili- and nano-BTC transactions, that most governments do not make prohibitive restrictions (or people just ignore them), then it may become a generally accepted standard as a virtual currency.  Effectively creating a wholly new type of financial transaction that really hasn't been seen on the planet before.  In that case, it is revolutionary.  In fact, it's not even that.  It's just a different form of a storehouse of wealth.  Hell, remember that swaps are only about 30 years old as an instrument.  The Chicago Board of Options was established in 1973... and (quoting Wikipedia)

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As of approximately April 11, 2007, the Wall Street Journal estimates that globally the market capitalization of the derivatives markets (futures, options, swaps, etc.) exceeds 450 trillion dollars (while US stock exchanges have approximately 30 trillion and the rest of the worlds stock exchanges total to about another 20 trillion, to a total of about 50 trillion--while the global fixed income markets total to roughly 65 trillion).

So what is its value?

The global economy (the value of all broad-based money supply in all countries either as cash or cash deposits or near-cash deposits) is 50-60 Trillion dollars.  Gold is 8 Trillion.  Google did 50 Billion in revenue last year, virtually all "online", and is valued at $235 billion.  And right now, Bitcoin is valued at about 1 Billion.  And bitcoin has unique advantages that other currencies do not.  It can be anonymous, transfer instantly with little transaction fees, and can keep it's value at millions of dollars or to the fractions of a cent, and is set to be scarce by design.  Merchants who accept it, through services like bitpay can make instant transfers into USD/EUR. Plus the protocol has built in features that haven't been used yet, such as contracting (only confirming some but not all of the transaction to put it in an escrow-like state) and the possibility of using it for banking in the forms of loans.   It can be used worldwide, by anyone.  .... Is there a value in that?  And is that value only 1 Billion ... or more?  There's 2.4 billion people who use the internet.  How many of them might have a use for a virtual currency like this?

People want to look at this and say it's a bubble.  But is it? Or is it the market is immediately starting to recognize the potential and it is (with as near instantaneousness that the market can achieve) automatically starting to price it accurately.  Where would you price the value of not just Yahoo or Google when they IPO'd, but what was the value of the Internet itself in 1994?

I think it is still undervalued.  I think 10B is still globally undervalued, on the assumption that more merchants start to accept it.  That's if it becomes a defacto virtual currency.  

And again, it could go down to $0.
26  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: buying bitcoins in person. scam? on: April 03, 2013, 11:14:41 PM

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MAKE SURE YOU TAKE SOME FORM OF INTERNET WITH YOU TO CHECK PRICES AND DETAILS.

Exactly, I would go to a pub and have a drink and hook up to their wifi and wait until it's confirmed.  Have a drink with them.  Buy them the drink even.  But I'd wait till the coins were transferred in a public place until I handed over cash. 
27  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I went to create an account here, and discovered I already had one... on: April 03, 2013, 10:54:01 PM
I knew I looked into bitcoin some time ago, and I forgot when.  That date pinpoints when I had originally started to look into it.   I even remember wanting to buy a bunch at $5-6 just for shits and giggles, but I couldn't figure out how so I just dropped it and moved on.  

Sigh.  

And I've had like thousands of dollars in cash that I've been keeping for that... you know... good investment.

28  Other / Beginners & Help / I went to create an account here, and discovered I already had one... on: April 03, 2013, 10:50:30 PM
... I created it in May 2011. 

OH GOD IF ONLY.... IF ONLY I HAD STARTED BUYING.... OH GOD PLEASE TAKE THE GUN AWAY FROM ME.
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