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21  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is acting funny! on: July 06, 2013, 02:57:20 PM
Oh dear, I hope Phin's account doesn't get jacked, we might have to endure off topic spam with images and goats and...oh wait  Grin.

lol, phinn which browser you are using?
It looks fine in firefox.

Chrome.

I haven't had an issue since ~48 hours after I first reported it. There were never any other problems accessing other sites. Brake line just rusted (rear line over dif.). Cable guys work Sundays. Internet ran out of images of goats. Sorry, BadBear. Back to stealing barn wood this evening, Josh.


good evening sir. There seems to be this glitch with your forum and I keep having to log back in is there anything I can do to just stay logged on forever thanks..Ira



Have you checked the box to keep you logged in? Do you automatically wipe all cookies etc? Are you always logging on with the same ip, that is without proxy & without a dynamic ip.


good morning sir, I don't see any contact information, who do I report the bug to? The only reason I learned about your site was because one of my brightest students informed me his bitcoin research was being suppressed by someone here..Ira
22  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] Virtual Community Exchange w/ Options, DRIP, 2FA, API, CSV, etc. on: July 06, 2013, 06:06:17 AM
I don't understand what you are complaining about?

I think he's complaining about not being able to trade his BTC elsewhere while waiting for a withdrawal.  I don't particularly enjoy having to process manual withdrawals either, but I'm willing to do it because I VALUE YOUR BTC.

I do agree with his assessment that it is not wise to have more on the exchange than you're willing to commit to for a day or so.

I also sympathize with people wanting to move their BTC around quickly, however I think it's better to have slower moving BTC than no BTC at all when the hackers come calling.


I wonder if I setup an option in the site:  Keep my coins in the [ ] HOT WALLET [X] COLD WALLET

Would people really want that?  I mean, I could do it.  And the users that opt to keep theirs in the hot wallet get no withdrawal limits, but also get their balance zeroed out if it's ever stolen?




good evening, I have some extra coins from mining can I trade stocks with bitcoins using your service..Irz
23  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is acting funny! on: July 06, 2013, 04:14:20 AM
Oh dear, I hope Phin's account doesn't get jacked, we might have to endure off topic spam with images and goats and...oh wait  Grin.

lol, phinn which browser you are using?
It looks fine in firefox.

Chrome.

I haven't had an issue since ~48 hours after I first reported it. There were never any other problems accessing other sites. Brake line just rusted (rear line over dif.). Cable guys work Sundays. Internet ran out of images of goats. Sorry, BadBear. Back to stealing barn wood this evening, Josh.


good evening sir. There seems to be this glitch with your forum and I keep having to log back in is there anything I can do to just stay logged on forever thanks..Ira
24  Economy / Economics / Re: Can we fix excessive volatility? on: July 06, 2013, 04:08:30 AM
I had a revelation the other night - why don't we build a decentralized, open-source crypto-currency that is pegged (protocol-wise) to the US Dollar, which could anytime be bought with and sold for Bitcoin automatically (and perhaps exclusively), so to speak? It would be exactly like Bitcoin, with confirmations and all that, but with no mining and with an infinite supply.

Just imagine a separate downloadable client with a BTC address that would keep the received bitcoins in it's protocol (hell knows how, but it doesn't sound impossible) and provide you with a corresponding (at the then-current exchange rate) number of "coins", each of which you can always "cash out", again within the client, for $1 worth of Bitcoin. Whenever you cash out, you get paid automatically in Bitcoin at the current BTC/USD exchange rate, so you end up receiving the same exact money you brought in.

I could see this working flawlessly when the BTC appreciates, but when it depreciates there would be a deficit of BTC in the system. Here's an example:

John has 1 BTC (current price $100) and buys 100 Virtual USD coins with it. In the meantime, the BTC appreciates to $200 let's say, and when he (or anybody else, really) "cashes out" to Bitcoin, they receive 0.5 BTC, with half of the Bitcoin staying in the system.

And here's the counterexample, John has 1 BTC (current price $100) and buys 100 Virtual USD coins with it. In the meantime, the BTC depreciates to $50, and when he "cashes out" to Bitcoin, he must receive 2 BTC, when bringing in just 1 BTC. Is it possible that the first situation counterbalances the second one? In other words, can mass adoption solve this clusterfuck? I bet it can, if Bitcoin stays deflationary Tongue

Can a sustainable crypto-currency be built on the description above, and if yes, wouldn't this solve the volatility problem we have with Bitcoin, replacing it as a transaction currency and leaving it be a commodity, next to gold and silver?

Would be interesting to see what you guys think Smiley


good evening. It begins with having deep knowledge of bitcoin network design, especially block chain protocols. The higher education projects we support fill the largest gaps in the blockchain. More research needs to be done to follow international laws especially ones having a wide impact. We have massive funding so there is no fear of bitcoin being wiped off the map..Ira




25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is still driving the enthusiasm of bitcoins over other currencies? on: July 06, 2013, 03:47:46 AM
I still think Bitcoin would benefit from moving to a 1 minute block time.
Look at D&T's math in the post above yours. Transaction verification can't happen at non-trivial transaction rates on general purpose CPUs with block times that short. If you want 1 minute blocks with PayPal-like transaction volumes and acceptable orphan rates you've made it so all full nodes require ASICs just for transaction verification, let alone mining.

I can see that being a requirement at some point, but not this early in the adoption curve. Maybe when we've got a "market cap" in the tens of trillions of dollars equivalent and the transaction rate is somewhere in the 100,000+/second range it would be reasonable to expect full nodes to run on specialized hardware, but by then the economy will be so well developed that there won't be any need to shorten the block time because any problems that a 600 second interval cause would have been long since solved.

good evening sir I really enjoy reading the posts in this forum is like a circus! The real backers of bitcoin have more money and computer hardware to overcome any consumer based machine..Ira
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is still driving the enthusiasm of bitcoins over other currencies? on: July 06, 2013, 03:16:45 AM
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But even if DDoS was employed it would be much easier to defeat than a traditional target, because you can know exactly which IPs are friendly and which to block.

Yeah I don't think you understand how modern DDOS work.  The attacker hits your upstream provider with hundreds of GB/s of traffic, the simply null route you to deal with the flood.  It is why DDOS are so hard to deal with.  The pipe to your server simply becomes saturated beyond your bandwidth capabilities.  You can't filter our the good nodes if they can't get to your server.

The idea that you know all miners so you can whitelist them is somewhat disconcerting as well.  You have essentially created the central mining agency.  The entity which all miners must work with to have any chance at efficient mining.  Not really sure that is the "solution" as opposed to simply using a more efficient (large) block interval.

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I think we're more likely to see either no change and more reliance on off-chain txs and alt-coins to relieve scalability pressures and/or a modest increase (say to 5/10 MB once) or modest increases at future points.

Even at 10MB we are talking, a not so insignificant delay.  

Still lets assume for a second you overcome the philosophical and vulnerability issues of a centralized clearing house. This still means a 2 hop propogation delay.  

The critical window = (time to transmit to clearing house) + (time for clearing house to validate block) + (time to transmit to other miners) + (time for other miners to validate)

Today validating a 500 KB block can take upwards of 300 ms.  10MB would be more like 6000 ms.  Lets assume protocol efficiencies cut that in half say 3000 ms.  Remember there are two validations unless miners are just going to blindly (100% implicit trust) the data provided by the clearing house.  Say the clearing house has 100 Mbps synchronous lot latency connectivity.  The transmit time from miner to clearing house then becomes 5*8/100 = 0.4 seconds.  If there are (a guess) 50 miners using the clearing house the time to transmit to the miners is another 50*10*8/100 = 40 seconds.

Under this naively optimistic scenario we are talking 0.4 + 3+ 40 + 3 = 46.3 seconds for full validation and double hop propagation to 50 mining peers.  With Bitcoin's 600 second average block time this means an orphan rate of ~8%.  With LTC it is more like 26%.  With the idiotic 30 second block intervals used by some scamcoins it is something on the order of 80% orphans.

Now there are solutions to make block propagation more efficient.  One (not possible on Bitcoin but could be used on an altcoin) would be to use a simplified transaction structure.  I have done some modeling and see a roughly 60% reduction in block size is possible (i.e. 1.7x as many tx in the same sized block).  For Bitcoin/Litecoin a soft fork where block is separated into header and tx set would allow more efficient pre-propogation of transactions.  Still at the end of the day smaller block intervals are going to face scaling challenges much quicker and an increased loss of security due to orphans is inevitable.


We have computers that will smoke anything you can throw at us the Chinese are just spinning their wheels on this one..Ira
27  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Alt-Coins on: July 06, 2013, 03:05:33 AM
bitcoin is totally out of the formal hierarchy and it should stay like that as long as it's there it will take on the conformists power greedy sociopaths



good evening sir, and thanks for the PM. Why should we spend energy using the service? Our bitcoin research and educational grants are pooled to help out individuals and institutions. Associated with the ital is vital higher-education and research camps that meet certain strict technical and business standards. IT can appear complex and technical agreements we ofter to the host country. Canada is a good place to develop ASICAUSE once you are certified and listed..Ira
28  Economy / Services / Re: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits on: July 06, 2013, 02:17:11 AM
I'm back are the shadow demons still deployed to validate functional requirements from the nodes in the cloud trading platform?..Ira
29  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Open Source Projects Survive Poisonous People on: July 06, 2013, 02:06:50 AM
are you an anarchist? Do you really think that government has no function and a world would be a better place without goverments? Then I suggest you read up on some history like feudal ages or even earlier. If you would remove goverment, that shit would happen all over again.

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"Absolute freedom" is absolute evil.

This can't be said in a more right way. People that don't understand this are little girls riding on pink poneys in a magical world of total ignorance.

I suggest you read up on what anarchism means.

However, I agree that there is nothing there that tells me not to trust Luke, he looks pretty coherent.


Yeah, show me an anarchistical community that was stable enough to invent quantum mechancs or microprocessors or the internet...
I mean, you've got to love anarchy for advancing our society from tribal hunter-gatherer to the information age, right?
And history is written by the anarchist line running through the development of human society, right?

I don't know how to bring it to you but anarchy by itself cannot be sustained outside a well-rooted centralized system without breaking apart into pure violence. Anarchy, when push come to shove, means every man on his own.
I mean, all is rosy and peachy if the big rooted centralized system provides the anarchists with resources.
But what happens if you are hungry and noone wants to give you food and there is no government to force them to?
Well, as an anarchist you take the right in your own hands and take the damn food.
See the problem?




good day sir please join our bitcoin cyberinfrastructure community for the arts and humanities...Ira
30  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to save Bitcoin on: July 06, 2013, 01:23:49 AM
If you really want to save BitCoin and keep the bankers/forex traders from having such an effect on BTC's value? Quit comparing it to USD. Take only BTC/LTC/devcoin/etc. and ignore these other fiat currencies. As long as cryptocurreny values are compared to fiat currencies and we do not set (and stick with) what we feel the value to be, then we'll continue giving the Big Banks and forex traders all the power they need to destabilize our nascent economy.


good day my group works to help people all around the world everyone needs to get involved to make this work...Ira
31  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Someone Offer me an Analysis on Gold, Silver and BTC ATM? on: July 05, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
http://www.bizforum.org/Journal/www_journalJVP010.htm
Gold details there.

Bitcoin as of a while ago, are also as short-able as an ETF.
https://exante.eu/press/news/314/
"Additionally, they can also initiate a short position in the shares of the Bitcoin Fund even without selling Bitcoin – this is more or less like an ETF or contract for difference (CFD) instrument."

This means you can drive the price like a car if you have access to enough fiat currency.




good day what is the shares of this Bitcoin fund thanks...Ira
32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Buy bitcoins on Nasdaq on: July 05, 2013, 11:05:59 PM
Just to clarify a little, this is incorrect. While the original ratio will be 0.2 BTC per share, that will decay over time, and the trust will spend a portion of those Bitcoins. There is nothing sinister or odd about this -- it is, on the contrary, common and entirely expected by investors.

Agreed and I misunderstood although (possibly my reading of) your wording seems to indicate a sinister intent.

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their 'company' will then be able to pay them wages/dividends and generally bleed down the value of BTC whilst only they benefit from it. it's a clever piece of latteral thinking, but not a good thing for a technology whose best outcome would be it stabalised into a currency

The company is able to bill the trust for the small management fee (unstated but 0.5% annually is a common amount) and the NAV will decline over time but I wouldn't call it "only they benefit".  If there is no benefit to shareholders (of the trust not the management company) then they won't buy it.  I mean it is an open market.  Investors will weigh the value/utility (if any) of the fund vs the cost (in terms of annual management fee).  They buy because the value outweighs the cost.

I would argue there is a lot of potential utility here:

* A company which had a margin brokerage account could accept BTC for goods and hedge volatility between time of acquiring and time of selling by selling short the fund.
* Speculators looking to go long could use margin to extend their leverage at lower cost and risk compared to systems like bitfinex.
* Long term holders of physical BTC (in cold storage) could sell covered calls against the fund for USD cashflow without needing to periodically sell off BTC on exchanges of unknown risk.
* Buying calls and puts would be a more sophisticated way of trading Bitcoins without dealing with entities of unknown trust.
* Someone looking to borrow BTC but sell them for USD could hedge out the currency risk partially or fully through the use of options.  If nothing else buying way out of the money calls would be a method of capping currency risk.









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33  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price drop? Thank all those that advocated working with regulators. on: July 05, 2013, 10:03:48 PM
That is all.




the rest of the world's population remains byte-dark effectively without such access to this info at all...Ira
34  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Alt-Coins on: July 05, 2013, 05:16:08 PM
good day are these good for trade the Btc...Ira
35  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: July 05, 2013, 05:14:03 PM
funny how you never hear about anyone selling on here right now at $72 or $73. They are selling for a reason but you never hear from them? Are they dumb or are they smart to sell? The sellers have to be thinking I am smart sellling at this price right?


my Btc still good from last year? I found some still on my computer at the university had my bitcoins still in there...Ira
36  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to start on Bitcoin ? on: July 05, 2013, 05:08:04 PM
I have extra Btc so looks like a found the good place...Ira
37  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie Hello on: July 05, 2013, 05:02:15 PM
good day sir...Ira
38  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: July 05, 2013, 05:00:09 PM
I can see the fear starting to spread as the reality that we won't be right back to $100+ in the short-term. I can feel it myself as I have to convince myself to stay in and do my part for strengthening the ecosystem. It's interesting to be a part of this as there is a faith-based aspect which I don't exercise very often. We all hope (at least most) that the price will rise sooner than later, we just have to make due with what we've got right now.

If I was willing a few days ago to buy at $100, then I can only see this as a good thing.  I'm getting the bitcoins that I buy at a MUCH cheaper cost than I was already willing to pay.  How valuable they are to me is not dependent upon how valuable they are to the people who are buying and selling at MtGox (or any other exchange).  I know how much I'm willing to pay for them.  Anything less is a great discount.  Anything more and its time to stop buying and just hold on to them or spend them where possible.  I adjust my opinion about value based on their security, and utility.

good day where can I sell my bitcoins I have some discount...Ira
39  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much Bitcoin do you have ? on: July 05, 2013, 04:54:54 PM
1032.570021 Btc...Ira
40  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: will the bitcoin reach $1000 one day...? on: July 05, 2013, 04:51:10 PM
good day yes bitcoins are hard to get in my country ...Ira
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