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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Launches the New Antminer B3 Miner on: May 02, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
I have one on hand already!!! Grin

Can you post photos, please? Where are you located? How are you mining with no public pool?
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Launches the New Antminer B3 Miner on: May 02, 2018, 06:44:15 PM
For those who shipped, can you confirm what time you ordered, and what time payment went through?

Time ordered: 04/24/2018 11:14pm EST
Time payment confirmed: 04/24/2018 11:43pm EST
Paid with: LTC
Shipped: No
Location: USA
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Launches the New Antminer B3 Miner on: May 02, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
That price drop for batch 2 was crazy... and I didn't receive any coupon

Neither did I.

There were photos (not sure if real or not) that popped up on Chinese Discord channel showing the chat between Bitmain staff and some dude who threatened to kill himself at Bitmain headquarters, saying that they will expose Bitmain to the state: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389630998729719808/441277766634045451/image.png

Anyway, for those outside of China who did not receive a coupon - please make sure you email sales.support@bitmain.com and open a ticket at http://support.bitmain.com to make your voices heard. China complained loudly enough until they received favorable treatment.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: May 02, 2018, 03:09:16 AM
Yeah... by Bitmain. They pre-mined the piss out of this over the past 2 months. LOL. Good luck.

Mainnet launched less than a week ago.
Yes,you are right.So there isn't a pre-mining problem

I disagree with that, actually. Since units just began shipping, Bitmain will have been mining for at least 9 days before anybody else could. As of right now, that means they have the majority of the 2.5 million coins generated by mining (probably close to 3.7 million by the time anybody in the public gets a B3). That's effectively a 1% premine worth nearly $4 million USD at current value.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: May 02, 2018, 01:43:35 AM
Yeah... by Bitmain. They pre-mined the piss out of this over the past 2 months. LOL. Good luck.

Mainnet launched less than a week ago.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 30, 2018, 02:02:01 PM
After speaking with a member of the team (Martin), I have very high hopes for Bytom.

It appears that the team it building this to be a decentralized neural network to perform complex AI calculations. Applications will be able to run on the network, could this project be similar to Ethereum but for AI? Hopefully the valuation shoots up like it!  Cheesy

The B3 supports hashing for tensority algorithm as well as perform Tensor calculations, meaning that it's pretty much confirmed to use Bitmain's BM1680/BM1682 AI chip.

Additionally, speculation can be put to rest over how many B3s are being released. It is confirmed that there will be 5,000 B3s shipped out across the world (2,500 for China, 2,500 for elsewhere) for first batch. There are talks of a second batch in May. Given that there were around 2,000 B3s online during the first few days and that we're on block 5,424 now, we might be able to roughly assume that block rewards will be around 0.2712 blocks per B3 per day, or 112 BTM per B3 for the first few weeks. Should break-even for early investors by start of month 2 at $1. All speculation of course.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 29, 2018, 02:10:26 AM
Does anybody know what kind of chips bitmain is using in the B3 asic miner ?

One B3 ASIC unit has 12 chips, I would like to know if they are using the brand new BM1682 announced for Q2 2018 or just recycling the previous BM1680 chipset from 2017.


This is pure speculation, but...

  • Algorithm for Bytom is "Tensority", Bitmain calls Sophon a tensor processor.
  • Bytom thread started 06/20/2018, Bitmain received the first batch of Sophon BM1680 processors in "late June" 2017
  • Bytom is "AI ASIC friendly", Bitmain's Sophon processor is designed for AI
  • B3 draws 360w, BM1680 pulls 25w per chip (12 chips = 300w)

We'll see, but it seems like we're forming an AI computing network with the B3s.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 27, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
We're almost at block 4,200 already.

That's 1.7 million BTM mined by Bitmain and the devs. $1.72M in revenue at current valuation ($1.01/BTM), plus the $13.5M Bitmain earned from the sales of the B3 (5,000 units at $2,700/ea). Seems really lucrative to everyone except the bagholders. This was effectively a pre-mine.

According to the whitepaper (linked here: https://medium.com/@Bytom_Official/bytom-economic-white-paper-e027ac5ac139), only 33% of the 2.1bn coins are minable, meaning 693m. Bitmain is mining at a rate of around 600,000 BTM/day and will have allocated between 3.6M and 9M (1.3%) of all PoW coins by the time the B3s ship.

So that's $23.4M in profits by Bitmain before a single person gets a B3.

I want the project to succeed (I bought an ASIC for it just like others have, and hold coins) but this is not a good way to earn public trust in the coin.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 26, 2018, 03:22:54 AM
This is a fragment from the site bytom.io

"POW algorithm that is friendly to AI ASIC-chips
Use a new POW algorithm, Matrix and convolution calculation is introduced
into the hashing process so that the miners can be used for AI hardware acceleration services."

So bytom can be mine.
Can anyone tell me how and where?
GPU OR ASIC miners ,many mining pools support bytom mining now

I thought you guys only supported CPU and ASIC right now? Yesterday it was said that you did not have GPU support, and I do not see this in the wallet.

What pools support BTM right now?
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 26, 2018, 03:14:49 AM
So who is it that's mining all of these blocks? Bitmain or the devs?

So far only these three addresses hold any coins on mainnet:

* bm1qrp2fmpx675e5f5e9vwpscl8e08wpn4wqhrv0zt: 228,937.5BTM (555 blocks, 27.30%)
* bm1qmyn5yn6w3sjzgc948rcycfnkh9uy96d8a8h25q: 609,262.5 BTM (1477 blocks, 72.65%)
* bm1qcxg0w7c70tdd46t7dxn204mkyeyudcz063s49e: 412.5 BTM (1 block, 0.05%)

Source: https://gist.github.com/xiphon/9df7e5af59c9ff50727596a15b95ab41
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 26, 2018, 03:05:32 AM
how can we mine bytom?
GPU or asic miner

Do you mean CPU?
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is anyone planning to do a "blissz" type firmware for the A3? on: April 26, 2018, 12:21:10 AM
Anyone who mods the a3 will get a cease and desist order from bitmain, so dont count on it.

lol what? This is malinformed.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 25, 2018, 03:55:49 AM
If you can't sync, go into %appdata%\Bytom and delete addrbook.json

I've been mining since block 1400 with 4 nodes, no dice. Devs confirmed that ASICs are on the network already said that only CPU/ASIC is currently supported, GPU will need to wait for the community or the team to write code for it.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BYTOM: An interoperational protocol for diversified byte assets on: April 25, 2018, 12:12:39 AM
Pretty sure ASICs are on mainnet already. Nobody can hit a block.
35  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Bitmain coupons $350 off on: April 12, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
Tried to PM you, but it doesn't allow low post count users to. Looking to grab 10x of them if you're willing to work out a bulk deal and they work with the L3+
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 06, 2018, 08:45:11 PM
F3 is pure speculation and spouting nonsense is just upsetting the community over a fake video.

The f3 was what people saw on bitmain factories and leaked to the community. It's real and bitmain will never say it exists, you might never hear about it cause if bitmain tries to sell the f3 next year then will be suspicious, so the f3 will never be publicly revealed.

Is this more speculation or do you have a source for this?

Susquehanna never revealed more details other than confirming Bitmain was working on an ASIC. Zero specs. The video was made by a user on the Ethfans pool and posted to Telegram, not a company. What you're describing is speculation.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 06, 2018, 08:26:05 PM
okay so looks like we have a few updates from the Eth dev team after they discussed the relevant eip.

-Casper implementation is scheduled / budgeted around July mid (when these ASICS are due for launch). Progress is good so far and making in roads.
-There is currently a 2.5x cost reduction with e3 but no real gain in hash rate; threat for 51% attack is minimal.
-No emergency measures will need to be taken at the moment; however plan for alternative algo like sha-3 will be integrated into next hard fork.
-If bitmain threatens with higher hashing power and possible 51% attack eth will counter with a cryptonight like hard fork OR they may expedite casper POS launch without bug testing etc. (option 1 seems to be the more widely accepted scenario).
-eth dev will be able to detect any spikes in hashrate etc that signals a high hash rate asic (like F3 eg.) and may choose hard fork earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoPfoNpqG0k

Just want to touch on this because it's a bit misleading.

- Casper testnet is scheduled to be fully operational (currently in "Alpha") by August, no date is set for mainnet launch
- Cost reduction and threat assessment is on-part with devs' wording
- SHA-3 will be considered, a dev asked about the possibility of implementing it but it was left up to further discussion at next month's meeting.
- The 51% attack was deemed to be "difficult to predict" and I believe it was Vitalik who noted that it wouldn't be noticed until it was happening. If this would happen from a governmental or private entity (both were mentioned neither by name), then "emergency measures" would be considered. ETH devs will not be releasing Casper onto mainnet without bug testing, that's a silly assertation and would be dangerous to the coin.

Let's remember that Vitalik brought up a good point; they're not sure how this ASIC functions. Until one is torn apart, it would be foolish to make a move should the unit contain an FPGA as speculated.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 06, 2018, 08:14:49 PM
FYI- F3 is 1500 Mh/s in the video. ie 8-10x.
Also if they implement new algo into Metropolis then bitmain is left out in the cold doesn't matter how many they sell.

There are so many red flags in that video that show it as a fake. Anybody with basic HTML markup knowledge could make the changes to the web GUI in the firmware, the sticker was not the same kind that bitmain uses (less round) and had low-quality ink with smaller stroked accents, plus it was off-center. And we're not going to talk about how "F" is not the same family as "E"? Historically, Bitmain has kept the ASIC models consistent with algorithms.

F3 is pure speculation and spouting nonsense is just upsetting the community over a fake video.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 05, 2018, 11:25:59 PM
Something caused the Ethereum hashrate to Double in less than two months.....I dont think it was this E3.  I dont think it was new GPU's.
It was the hidden Bitmain Eth Asic.  Lets hardfork and watch the hashpower lose at least 35%!!!  Its the only way to know for sure.

Steady rise since December = batch 1 units hit network. Bitmain is rumored to have mined for 3 - 6 months with equipment before refreshing hardware and selling the old stuff. Very likely what's going on here.
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 05, 2018, 05:25:42 AM
It seems like these new E3 can be upgraded once ETH will fork and still mine it. I heard this from "insiders"..

Can you provide more information? Is it using and FPGA versus ASIC? Is it really GPU cores inside?

How exactly could they upgrade it after the fact?

I've heard this rumor as well. FGPA + GPU cores is what's rumored, which (given the size) may be the case. If it's just a bunch of DDR3, then chances are it'll be worthless after a decision is made to brick them on Friday (because - let's be real, it will fork).

Problem is, FPGAs aren't always cheap. So unless Shitmain came up with something proprietary, I would consider this to be a rumor.
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