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21  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Dampak Negatif Investasi dan Trading on: June 15, 2024, 02:50:36 PM
Rasanya kehilangan uang itu bawaannya marah-marah dan cepat spaning dan yang paling menyakiikan adalah pas kita masuk pasar harga cuma bertahan 1 jam baik-baik saja, selepas itu harga langsung turun dan terus turun.

Biasanya banyak yang masuk di tanggal muda karena baru gajian. katakanlah misalnya Dianya Masuk dengan modal Rp 500.000,- pas wd nya tinggal uang Rp, 250,000,- karena pasar terus flukatuatif kebawah  dan saya kira cukup banyak temen-teman kita juga rasakan yang demikian seperti yang saya sampaikan ini.

Pertanyaannya kenapa harus marah-marah pada saat harga sedang turun dan mengapa harus melakukan penarikan ketika sudah mengetahui jumlah uang yang sudah mulai berkurang setengah dari jumlah yang pernah didepositkan om ? Bukankah disaat kondisi seperti itu setiap orang harus memiliki kesabaran yang cukup demi tidak menanggung resiko rugi gara-gara penurunan harga, karena hal konyol yang masih terjadi sekarang ini pada sebagian orang adalah menarik kembali uangnya pada saat sudah mengalami kerugian, padahal dia sendiri tahu kalau dia sedang tidak dalam kondisi yang menguntungkan tapi malah memilih menarik uangnya kembali dengan menanggung rugi Grin
22  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Accepting Crypto Salaries Worth It? on: June 15, 2024, 02:41:33 PM
Stable coins are not a problem in payments because their value seems to always remain the same, however, the salary and employees must also understand cryptocurrency, otherwise this can also have bad consequences for employees, considering that if they are not knowledgeable and trade it, their salary could run out and of course will have a bad impact on the family economy
Why does your line of thinking refer to trading when employees receive salaries in stable coins? Can't all stable coins be immediately cashed into any fiat without having to be traded by the employee who receives them? I think there is nothing wrong with receiving a salary in stable coins with a value that is even the same as the fiat value so that it will not be enough to bother the person who receives it, especially if the employee himself can make a disbursement immediately after receiving it without having to make any form of trade.
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm new to the world of Bitcoin - a little late :( on: June 15, 2024, 02:36:01 PM
You are lucky to be able to know Bitcoin. For me, it is never too late to know Bitcoin. Here you are on the doorstep of success. Nowadays, many people invest in Bitcoin to achieve success. There are even people who use Bitcoin as an asset for old age.
You should too, because actually it is not used as an asset in old age, but rather to be saved properly to make your old age happier and brighter because you have invested in Bitcoin for the long term. I also think people who already know Bitcoin and believe in Bitcoin as a good asset will make bigger profits someday. Because Bitcoin has shown good value in every cycle in the market, there is really no loss for those who continue to want to keep Bitcoin until old age comes.
24  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why are people getting scared to Trade on: June 14, 2024, 10:51:18 AM
I guess most people are afraid of the losses that is why .Trading is not an easy game at all though there is lot of money in trading  it comes with a lot of losses especially if is into it without proper knowledge and skill. Many are in a hurry to become rich don't focus on learning and developing themselves to become professional and profitable traders Remember that good thing takes time success is only for the patients ones .
And those of you who are aware of things like this have of course also applied the right learning for trading, because even though there are risks in this matter, it will always be done by people who really understand and have sufficient knowledge for trading. Because loss in any form is something that everyone really hates, so there is no way to avoid it except by continuing to try and learn appropriately in order to be able to handle it very well. Because anyone who wants to become rich through trading certainly needs time and appropriate sacrifices so that this can come in our own lives.
25  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: TRADER bukanlah PENGANGGURAN on: June 14, 2024, 10:20:36 AM
Perkembangan dunia di era modern ini harus selalu mampu disesuaikan, pola pikir masyarakat kota dan desa sekarang ini sudah tidak adalagi gap sehingga segala informasi karena perkembangan teknologi informasi semuanya menjadi sama. Tidak ada alasan bagi setiap orang apalagi generasi milenial untuk tidak belajar dan menggali informasi secara luas. Menurut saya perkembangan teknologi sudah cukup banyak membantu perekonomian anak muda apalagi jika memahami dunia trading juga akan membuat perekonomian akan sangat terbantukan. Sekarang masa depan berada ditangan kita sendiri.

Perkembangan teknologi masa kini memang tidak ada habisnya om sehingga bisa membuat lebih banyak generasi untuk menyesuaikan dirinya dengan hal tersebut ketika ingin menjalankan sebuah pekerjaan, contohnya seperti pada pekerjaan trading yang mana hal tersebut sudah bisa dilakukan oleh semua orang tanpa mengandalkan pasar tradisional seperti generasi terdahulu om.

Sekarang ini para generasi milenial yang sudah memahami bagaimana pola trading dipasar apapun sudah memiliki pekerjaan yang cukup jelas walaupun secara penghasilannya masih tidak begitu pasti, tetapi bisa cukup nyata karena mereka semua berusaha lewat pola yang sudah mereka pelajari sebelumnya om sehingga cukup jelas dalam hal ini bahwa para trader itu bukanlah pengangguran melainkan orang yang selalu bekerja secara tidak terlihat melalui mata orang awam saja karena orang awam tidak paham bagaimana menjalankan trading seperti itu pada saat ini.
26  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it still possible to retire early? on: June 14, 2024, 10:14:03 AM
I'm 40, I think it is not too early for retirement, but if I could, at least, retire someday in my life I would already be satisfied. I really need a good plan for retire. My country offers some plans to retire, but the time goes by and polititians demonstrate not to be interested in keep paying retirements. They took our money and now they dont want to pay us.
In terms of age, you still have plenty of time to continue working and being creative as you wish because in my country that age is still considered an active worker who has not yet reached the time to retire. This means that you still have enough time to make your retirement more beautiful by planning it now, both through active income and also passive income that will never end at any age. So don't ever complain about things that are happening even though they might not be good enough for you, because as long as you can still fight to make your retirement better, that's what you have to continue to do from now on.
27  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: DO NOT BRAG ABOUT YOUR BITCOIN on: June 14, 2024, 09:59:12 AM
As far as I know, there is no need to use multiple wallets if you store the keys of a wallet well if you don't give anyone any information about how many bitcoins you have then no one will find access to it. Many times there is a possibility of losing the private keys for using multiple wallets so it is necessary to proceed very consciously and this information about how many bitcoins there are in the wallet cannot be shared with anyone.
The contents of the wallet are easier for other people to know because the wallet is public even though the person does not know who owns the wallet. However, from what you have said, it is true that anyone who owns a wallet that already contains more Bitcoins must be able to guard their private keys very well. Because wallet theft crimes usually occur when the owner of the wallet is negligent in keeping his private key or has shared it with another party even though that party is someone he knows very well.
28  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Inflation Necessary on: June 13, 2024, 02:58:43 PM
In general inflation is caused by too much fiat money circulating in society, and this causes the value of the currency to fall. However, there are other factors that can cause inflation, such as national debt. I think using gold as a transaction tool is not a smart solution to avoid inflation because gold is not a transaction tool but tends to be an investment.
In fact, it is not a matter of whether or not gold can be used as a transaction tool at this time in order to avoid inflation itself which is still rife nowadays. But it is more difficult for all countries to implement it at one time because developed countries can still avoid inflation with their own efforts so that the impact of the decline in the value of their own currency is not too much. So this is also still being considered by countries that are not developed in an effort to ensure that inflation can continue to decrease every year.
29  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Paylater dan Pinjol, mempermudah atau Menjebak? on: June 13, 2024, 02:31:28 PM
Mengapa sekarang marak sekali pinjol yang tanpa agunan dan mengapa mereka meminjami tanpa jaminan?
Lantas mereka (peminjam) dapat keuntungan dari mana? Sebab resiko nasabah gagal bayar dan sejenisnya.
Apakah kaka disini heran melihat hal ini terkait maraknya pinjol tanpa agunan?

Saya sama sekali tidak heran dengan maraknya pinjol pada saat ini om, karena pihak pinjol itu juga sedang berusaha untuk mencari keuntungan lewat setiap nasabah yang meminjam uang pada mereka dan kalau ada nasabah nakal yang tidak mau membayarnya ataupun gagal membayarnya gara-gara alasan tertentu. Hal tersebut juga akan berujung ke kantor polisi karena pihak pinjol itu telah lebih dulu mendapatkan data pribadi setiap nasabah karena ketika meminjam uang pihak pinjol hanya meminta identitas pribadi saja.

Saya pribadi tidak suka dengan pinjol ini om walaupun ada yang bilang bunganya tidak terlalu besar, tetapi tetap saja saya tidak ingin terlibat dengan hal tersebut karena saya takut ketika saya tidak dapat membayarnya secara tepat waktu sehingga saya hanya lebih fokus pada mencari penghasilan sendiri walaupun dengan jumlah yang tidak terlalu banyak.
30  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Wait for the right set-up on: June 13, 2024, 02:14:54 PM
In my opinion, if you see the setup you want in the market, you should trade. Seeing the setup you want will not always show up, and it needs a lot of time. It's an opportunity, I would always trade with that setup because waiting can sometimes cause unnecessary decisions that will lead us to trade without the clear analysis.
That's a much more logical thought actually because not always waiting can be very meaningful and can be very profitable if the direction is trading. Certain settings in trading usually lead to assistance and comfort for the trader himself in the market he uses so that at any time a person can continue trading without having to wait for something uncertain except just waiting for the price to fall or increase at one time. Because analysis will still need to be present in every job we will do in order to be able to measure how wise the decisions we will make are.
31  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My deep regret and pain in crypto. on: June 13, 2024, 02:07:23 PM
there are many crypto users who have had similar experiences where they invested in shitcoin and expected that it would be worth more than bitcoin.  but instead of it being as valuable as bitcoin, it has dropped drastically and has no value.  therefore, with this experience, it is important for crypto users to be able to trust bitcoin and need to be careful when investing in altcoins, because no one can be sure what the future of these altcoins will be, but with bitcoin you can at least be sure that it will continue  adopted by more people.
Apart from still having to be careful with certain altcoins or shitcoins, at least the evidence we can see through Bitcoin can be a special reference for everyone to have more confidence in Bitcoin than any other altcoin. I also do not deny that crypto users in the past and present have had unpleasant experiences with certain altcoins which may have been caused by the decline in their own value in the market that occurred in altcoins. Because I have also experienced things like that myself in the past, although I also took advantage and got out at the right time before bigger losses occurred.
32  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Future Transaction Prices on: June 09, 2024, 03:35:13 PM
I also thought so, in the future the transaction fee of Bitcoin is going to be more expensive than the transaction fee of this year. It is difficult for me to know how high the fee can go but I believe that as the price of Bitcoin continues to grow higher after every 4 year, that's also how the fee will be increasing, the reason why I think so is because of how the transaction fee was extremely low when 1 bitcoin was just $8.
I think this is a very normal thing that happens in Bitcoin transactions because the price is already as high as it is now and it is quite balanced with the costs that must be incurred every time you make a transaction. Personally, I am also very aware of this, but I have never complained about the costs that I have to bear when I want to make a transaction because it is sufficient for the amount of value we are transacting. So enjoy the balance and continue to like Bitcoin like you like a very valuable asset and don't because of this our trust in Bitcoin could fade.
33  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Before Trading Bitcoin you should... on: June 09, 2024, 03:28:03 PM
I think most of the wealthy people have huge sums of money are more interested in trading instead of investment and those who have a limited amount of money are interested in investment as they think that if they keep their money in beneficial assets then after some years they will be able to make their economy better.
Not all of them are like that, mate, because there are also rich people who invest and trade at the same time, even though the investment they make is for the long term and the trading they do is for the short term. I also don't blame you for what you said because there are people like that in this world, but this doesn't happen to everyone so we shouldn't judge everyone equally. Because people who don't have a lot of money also dare to trade as long as they have the knowledge and mental strength to do it.

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Those who leave their job for investment or trading are the foolish person and they will realise about their mistakes if they continuously lose money through trading and will then be feeling sorrow to leave their job.
Don't immediately call other people stupid because they left their jobs, maybe they themselves think it's time to stop being slaves to other people with a small salary so that those who make such decisions are also based on more mature considerations. Even though they will also understand that in terms of trading they will not always be profitable, but as long as they have the courage and mental strength to continue doing this, I think they will also get profits that can even cover the losses they have experienced before.
34  Economy / Economics / Re: The choice of investment is dependent on your region of residency. on: June 09, 2024, 03:14:57 PM
Really good piece of advice and it stands true atleast in my country as it really depends because I stay in a region where if you invest into real estate you will surely get profits in couple of earning but the region which falls with 50 miles from my place there has been no appreciation in the value of real estate for decades, similarly it stands true for every single business as that's why analysis of region is very important and play a major role.
For real estate assets, this is true because the main thing that must be looked at is the location of the area or the location where the asset is located because this is what can affect the value of the asset. And usually the value will tend to increase again when there are many people who want to live in the area for whatever purpose, so that those who already have assets previously will benefit more because of the quite high increase in value. But for other assets such as gold and Bitcoin this will not be the case because they are not determined by the region or place where the asset exists.
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36  Economy / Economics / Re: Banks have money but they don't cooperate on: June 08, 2024, 04:45:17 PM
On point, sometimes no matter how emergency the situation is, it is still possible that the requests are denied, so you should always have a back up plan. One of the things I noticed, if you are a credit card user and you have a good credit history with them, they quickly approve a bank loan or cash advance loan, especially if you have documents to submit as collateral, but if no, let's not expect to be approved because even if we say it's a bank, they follow processes and there's also a background check that's done for safety purposes.
The bank is a party that is very careful in checking every document from its customers and also from people who want to lend them money. So it is not wrong for them to do this before they give a loan in the form of money to anyone and those who have the most potential to give it are people who have an unproblematic credit history and people who have the best assets as collateral. But if, for example, I myself needed money, I wouldn't immediately approach the bank because that wouldn't make it easier for me to get out of the debt they owed me through a loan. So I will look for other ways to get money to solve the problems I face.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Don't advice anyone to invest on Bitcoin if he doesn't have Alt. income on: June 08, 2024, 04:28:34 PM
If your cousin was investing while he was job I think he would have withdrawn his bitcoin money now because he is now unemployed and needs money to meet his family needs. now If he invests all the money in Bitcoin, he will panic and sell at a loss when the price of Bitcoin falls. You can give your brother a suggestion to find a way to earn his income quickly, add you to the forum to learn about Bitcoin, or you can give advice yourself in various ways. If prosperity returns in his life then you should encourage him to invest because he interested to be invest Bitcoin.
Your suggestion does sound worth considering, but what makes me a little surprised is how do you know if someone's relative is feeling panicked due to the decline in Bitcoin prices or urgent life needs? Because I see personal things such as daily needs in other people and feelings of panic in someone, it is also not easy to know even though someone is running an investment like Bitcoin. The person's family or relatives really need to encourage them so that they don't become careless and panic when investing if they themselves really like Bitcoin and this must continue to be encouraged because their siblings don't choose the wrong investment for themselves.
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC staying above $67,000, will it reach all time high? on: June 07, 2024, 04:40:00 PM
Those who had invested in altcoins can now sell them at a multiple profit. Along with the increase in the price of Bitcoin, all the altcoins have increased in price. If we invest at the right time, we can get profit.  We will not be able to make profit but will put our invested money at risk. So we should always find the right coins and keep investing.
Apart from having to be able to find the right coin for investment, you also have to be able to find the right entry point and the right exit point in order to get multiple profits at a certain time or at the time as you said. Because what we often see now is some people who know the entry point more precisely but don't know the point to exit and take advantage of what they have bought before. So the level of profit is not much higher because they have gone through a better moment to get out of what they have done before.
39  Economy / Economics / Re: The impact of war on global economy. on: June 07, 2024, 04:31:42 PM
It is difficult to avoid war, especially if a country has abundant natural resources and the level of national defense is weak, other countries which have great power will definitely attack a country which has great natural resources. As is happening in various countries today and in history.
Apart from what you said, war will always exist as long as there are countries that are dissatisfied with the progress of other countries in the world. Because when war doesn't happen, of course it could be created so that weapons factories can operate in order to sell ammunition to those who need it even though they themselves know that the ending will not be good. But this is clearly not easy to avoid because there is a feeling of dissatisfaction and there is something that a country wants to control which in the end can lead to endless war.
40  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to get a crypto asset? on: June 07, 2024, 03:41:08 PM

If you are confident in your abilities, trade to the best of your financial ability, don't add to your problems with debt, because debt will not solve the problem,
If you don't have funds, look for work that can provide you with capital to trade,
STOP getting into debt because it will cause you more problems and there will be no end to your poverty
This is very good advice for everyone who wants to start a business or trade with their own capital without involving themselves in any form of debt. Because I personally really hate debt, especially if I have to pay the interest after taking out the debt so the burden will continue to be heavy even though it will be used in any business. So I really quite agree with the advice you say because the elements are clear and the goodness is there for everyone who wants to open a business and trade without exception.
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