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21  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: January 10, 2018, 03:58:32 PM

Update on this one, there appears to be another channel of info we've been ignoring (or not talking about publicly on this forum). Props to smracer for noticing it. If you view the "skinny/fat" inner flame as another channel of data, then there is an *almost* 16 digit match between the outer bottom height and it's skinnyness. Flame # 9 counting r 2 l along the outer bottom doesn't match with this otherwise perfect match. The interpretation of the skinnyness is a bit more subjective than the others but once you've spent some time deciding between them it becomes easier to call. This track contains the weird solid red flame most have been ignoring. See for yourself and let me know what you think. Perhaps we could compare our skinny/fat calls and start using this new channel of data for playing around with... Not quite as solid a lead as alphabetcannary's discovery but I think it's significant.

There might be one more channel of data not picked up on yet. I'll let you know once I've poked around with it a bit.

As you are saying it is subjective, but in my interpretation of skinnyness, there are two flames, namely #6 and #9, that don't match. Both flames are thin (skinny as you call it) and long, while the match for thin in outer bottom is short. Again, it is subjective. I think I found a mismatch or two of my interpretation of skinnyness with what zbyszek2 posted (he called it blob in his post), too

I found the same thing (namely: perfect match but the two flames, both long and thin) in another segment: have a look at the left inner segment. There is an almost perfect match  of length and blob, too
22  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: January 10, 2018, 03:47:16 PM

LOL Grin  i am not speaking about those trolling flames, i've kept the flames for you to play with.
i posted this image and nobody knows how to interpret it:
https://imgur.com/a/D5srG


why would anybody want to interpret this thing if you don't disclose where you did get that?
23  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: January 10, 2018, 03:44:22 PM

Update on this one, there appears to be another channel of info we've been ignoring (or not talking about publicly on this forum). Props to smracer for noticing it. If you view the "skinny/fat" inner flame as another channel of data, then there is an *almost* 16 digit match between the outer bottom height and it's skinnyness. Flame # 9 counting r 2 l along the outer bottom doesn't match with this otherwise perfect match. The interpretation of the skinnyness is a bit more subjective than the others but once you've spent some time deciding between them it becomes easier to call. This track contains the weird solid red flame most have been ignoring. See for yourself and let me know what you think. Perhaps we could compare our skinny/fat calls and start using this new channel of data for playing around with... Not quite as solid a lead as alphabetcannary's discovery but I think it's significant.

There might be one more channel of data not picked up on yet. I'll let you know once I've poked around with it a bit.

As you are saying it is subjective, but in my interpretation of skinnyness, there are two flames, namely #6 and #9, that don't match. Both flames are thin (skinny as you call it) and long, while the match for thin in outer bottom is short. Again, it is subjective. I think I found a mismatch or two of my interpretation of skinnyness with what zbyszek2 posted (he called it blob in his post), too
24  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Minimum fee to transfer bitcoin on: January 10, 2018, 01:32:40 PM
The minimum fee to transger Bitcoin is 1 satoshi. It will take a while for that to get confirmed probably though so you can get it bumped up to have it confirmed faster.

It is just outrageous that people can really give such a bad advice to anybody. The author either knows nothing or is misleading the OP.

I had a few transactions recently and the MINIMUM I paid was 7,5USD for 300 byte transactions, BUT it took two days two confirm. I had a 1 dollar transaction only once  back in December, but it was unconfirmed for more than three weeks.

If you create a transaction paying 1 satoshi, I can bet it will NEVER be confirmed, and it will cost you a lot of nerve and frustration and looking for ways to push it through anyway. Please know that currently the accelerators are either scam or they cost between 100 and 200 dollars per transactions, so it is better to inteligently set a fee that will be confirmed in reasonable time.

For that you can use this service: https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx . They tell you what is the best fee but better yet you can study the fee diagram and pay somewhat less but still be reasonably sure it will get confirmed in reasonable time
25  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft Removes Bitcoin on: January 10, 2018, 01:12:34 PM
Because US government is against cryptocurrencies. As long as Microsoft doesn't want to have problems with officials they won't take any risks. Especially risks like that: Bitcoin as a payment method is only for geeks and it's not worth keeping it just to satisfy them.

no it is not for geeks. It is not a payment method at all anymore and this is why they removed it.
It is amazing how people can deceive themselves and keep deceiving whatever happens and whatever facts are in their faces.

Here you have the true reason it was removed:

They removed it because making payments in Bitcoin was no longer viable. Who want to pay a transaction fee of $100 for purchasing a Microsoft Office Suite which costs $150? The charges levied by Visa/Master for the same is around $3 per purchase.
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to cash out Bitcoin anonymously? on: January 09, 2018, 10:03:49 AM
You could see if there is a bitcoin atm in your country.
Where i leave there are atms that dont require id verification if the amount is under 700$, the bad part in this is tthe 7% tax that comes with it.
But, why to cash out bitcoin?...havent you seen the market lately?

maybe he saw the market lately and precisely that is why he is cashing out Cheesy
27  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Proof of how FEW people posting here understand how Bitcoin works on: January 09, 2018, 08:19:33 AM

The part about producing no dividends, products or services is the key component of Ponzi scheme that I defined above.


That actually worries me most because it has not always been like that. There used to be a growing number of services and markets where you could buy things for bitcoins. There are even webpages listing places where you could spend your bitcoin. It has all been a couple of years ago and it seems to be gone now.

Now, the sad reality is that if you went down for a coffee the transaction fee would be 20 dollars and even with that fee you would spend all day waiting for the confirmation that you have paid and they actually may start serving your coffee.

So maybe Realist247 you are right with your diagnosis. A couple of years ago I would totally opose you, now I just don't know....

I've known about Bitcoin since 2011 and it originally sounded like a brilliant idea...as a currency.  Fast forward to this year when most people say that it's not a currency (and how 8 years have passed and no one will fix the problems) but rather a store of wealth or digital gold...that's when the big picture became clear to me that something was very wrong and lots of people (most) are going to get badly burned.

Again, I must agree. It has been a couple of weeks since that exchange of ideas took place, and watch: it is not 20 dolar fee anymore, it is not rare that 120 dollar fee is mentioned by some users (although I was lucky to never pay so high a fee) and they sound to be OK with that. I had my analysis of bitcoin price grow curve (before I bought in) and one of the assumptions was that it was going to be used as digital currency. Now that assumption is failing. It seems my whole analysis is failing too. And probably I am going to get burnt together with all those other people, as you are saying
28  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: January 07, 2018, 11:37:43 PM

amazing observation! And the more amazing is the fact that it is so simple and everybody has been staring at those flames for more than 3 years!

I have this luck today that there is my alter ego (regards, clanestutr) paraphrasing the same exact minute what I was saying in my post (which was cool and unexpectedly a little creepy) and then there is this troll copying my post an hour later. I am reporting this one
29  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: January 07, 2018, 11:08:37 PM
Another observation re: data.

If you look at the first 17 bits of the inner track top color (l->r) against the first 17 bits of the outer track top color in same direction, they are identical.  I know you'd expect repeats even in random data but 17 bits in a row starting right on the boundary?  Odds are 1 in 131072 that'd happen?

inside colors
"000101010010110110", // outside track top, left to right

outside colors
"0001010100101101110010110000", // inside track top, left to right



amazing observation! And the more amazing is the fact that it is so simple and everybody has been staring at those flames for more than 3 years!
30  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: January 07, 2018, 10:08:01 PM
You're missing the modulus operation. It's kind of hidden in a single line of code.

Whoops. Yeah, missed that first time around.

The more I play around with the XOR patterns and permutations of row order/orientations, the less I think that these words are meaningful. It's a fairly unlikely coincidence, I admit, for "is" "the" & "keyfile" to appear, but those aren't particularly long words, with "keyfile" being the only exception.

But, perhaps more important--why would they use the term "keyfile" (or "key file") at all? The result wouldn't be a file, it would be a private key. I don't see the puzzle creators using a phrase like "keyfile" when "privkey" or even "key" would suffice, especially when "keyfile" is technically innacurate.

Not to mention generating this phrase requires a series convoluted steps:

1. Arrange 6 out of 8 rows in a pattern that doesn't appear anywhere else in the painting (to be fair, it may be undiscovered, but the bishop/knight explanation breaks down, for me. It's almost certainly a queen rather than a bishop, and the knight's movement is precise in a way that doesn't reflect the jumping around necessary for this row order/orientation)

2. XOR with 011010, but only after you skip the first bit entirely.

3. Cycle back to the beginning of the 6 rows and rinse/repeat.

What about the 011 pattern that tracks through all of the rows without deviation? Sure, it's possible to encode words and still have that pattern exist, but it's a hell of a lot harder, and--considering the route you have to take to generate the above phrase, seemingly unnecessary.

my thinking exactly, especially the keyFILE part

EDIT: actually, on the second thought and the second reading, my thinking entirely Cheesy
31  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: January 07, 2018, 10:06:51 PM
It was my belief that the message properly decoded would read "thecolouriskeyfile", which would indicate the inner and outer colour tracks would be decrypted by following the same steps as with the height track. The British spelling of "colour" seemed reasonable because the Rob Myers guy is a filthy Canadian, and CoinArtist seemed to have EU heritage, although I couldn't find anything definitive.

Interesting -- and that would make sense too. The binary pattern we *have* is:

Quote
100110011100100001010110011010000001010010001010001001001010001001100000101010000101100100...

…and the one that *would* say "thecolouriskeyfile" is:
Quote
100110011100100000100111001011011101010010001010001001001010001001100000101010000101100100

Differences in bold. Maybe they got off somewhere in transcribing the pattern.

theflamesiskeyfile

guys, I would hate to cool your optimism down, but of course you realize that every second binary digit (5 of them coding every baconian letter) belongs to that crazy 0x1x1x pattern that is constant throughout the flames. It can't imagine the creator choosing letters and wording so carefullty, so that she can convey her intended message but chosen letters would not break the constant pattern.

On the other hand, it makes much sense what RealOnTheMF said, that it is a massive coincidence: doing the exhaustive search of all possible permutations of all subsets of 8 flame segments, accepting CW or CCW order of each segment, skipping every 1 flame or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or whatever threshold he chose as the upper limit, applying the 011010 XOR or not, excluding first k flames when applying the XOR (k=0,1,etc.) - what I am thinking that there were so many bit streams tested (milions would be my guess), that he simply stumbled upon the words that made sense. Not entirely made sense, as you can see. Even if the 'colour' is what was really intended, we don't have to do with a key file, but with a key itself, so the message really is more or less senseless.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is DEAD for small payments, Bitcoin Cash is the FUTURE on: December 22, 2017, 08:30:05 AM
I agree with you. I've withdraw some of my bitcoin today and got shocked with transaction fee is around 10% is too big amount.
it's very not recommended for transactions with small amounts.
bitcoin is getting popular and high traffic since a few days ago until now

Is 10% recommended for transactions with high amount Huh (I know I know, the pun is intended, for large amounts it will not be 10%). But anyway, the situation is critical with bitcoin in my view.
33  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transaction fee through the roof on: December 22, 2017, 07:37:14 AM
I would avoid any non essential transactions right now until the market calms down a little. It's unclear when that is going to be though. BTC and ETH are both struggling with the amount of transactions currently and I'm not sure if this is an attack or if it's due to the new price of Bitcoin.

And if the transaction is already put there in the network? What would you advise I do? I have a transaction which is stuck for more than one week and I don't think it will ever get confirmed with the current state of matters.

So what should I do? BTC tx accelerator sais it can do the trick for me for more than one hundred dollars, can you imagine?

Is there a way to withdraw and resend the transaction? I would be maybe willing to pay 33 USD but not 100 !!!

actually it is a very good question and more or less sooner or later (rather sooner) more people will be asking that question. Frankly, I don't know, but I would like to hear the answer as I have a very similar problem. Anybody can help?

What about my question guys? Can't anybody help?

I think that every person from that forum trying to send bitcoins will face the same problem. So why not try to help? I don't understand it
34  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: December 22, 2017, 07:18:56 AM
the useful clues is from the rabbit, just focus on them.. he posted 8 times but there are 2 posts out of them deleted, the first post maybe deleted by the mod but the second one deleted by the rabbit himself, i don't know why?! maybe it hides important clue.

The reason the posts got deleted is because they contained "donation" addresses. The rabbit asked for bitcoin in exchange for clues.
This is clearly a scam and you are a fool taking anything out of this posts.

How do you know that? Actually when I opened his (her?) profile posts list, some other posts were deleted but the ones with the donation address stayed there. So probably she deletes the posts herself for some reason. If she is the author, then why not? She can do with her puzzle what she likes.

I admire the puzzle by the way and I believe the White Rabbit

EDIT:
that post:
Delete and delete, and also delete.

Now there will be no white rabbit, I wonder how long you will count on the flames

Last thing I have to say, this is wonderland nothing is like you see

Bye.

used to be completely different yesterday night too: she repeated it was not a queen again and said some other stuff I am not sure if I remember. I am thinking I should be somehow archiving those posts while they are there.
35  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: December 21, 2017, 09:54:08 AM

Code:
-=[Y]=--=[a]=--=[r]=-=[i]=-=[S]=-=[h]=-=[o]=-=[g]=-=[i]=-=[





What are you count? The flame? -[]--[]--[]--[]--
  • --[]--
  • --[]-[
Same (or at least similar) notation, you see? Maybe it will lead us somewhere, maybe it is an indication what is hidden in the first flames ("YariShogi" text message  (?)   ). I know I know, white rabbit, I am still concentrating on the flames too much, but undoubtly flames ARE important  too
36  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Legend of Satoshi Nakamato, FINAL STEP PUBLISHED.... 4.87 BTC GRAND PRIZE! on: December 20, 2017, 02:20:02 PM


You seem to be forgetting that the pattern of 0 1 1 is VERY consistent across the flame-bits.
(PPS. If you look at the 0 1 1 pattern, then the only safe-transition from inner to outer is on left-side's top.)


I confirm, I made the same observation. So basically we can have only one way to go through the flames - or maybe the second way if we read them backwards. EDIT: Times 152 as we can start anyplace Smiley


Now, if you read every even-numbered flame-length in that stream (first flame is flame-0, lets index from 0), you will get repeated pattern of 0 1 1. Since it's repeated then:
   A) it cannot encode any data or
   B) we should read by skipping some colors, only then such lengths can encode some data. For example, if we read only 78 of the outer-red-colored flames, we still could treat inner color as a bit of data and flame height as a bit of data, regardless if its a part of 011 pattern or not.



OR: C) it can be a form of indices into the inner part of the picture, and then the repeating pattern is essential and cannot be discarded. The inner part of the picture would contain the randomized information if C) option is correct.
37  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin transaction fee through the roof on: December 20, 2017, 01:51:39 PM
I would avoid any non essential transactions right now until the market calms down a little. It's unclear when that is going to be though. BTC and ETH are both struggling with the amount of transactions currently and I'm not sure if this is an attack or if it's due to the new price of Bitcoin.

And if the transaction is already put there in the network? What would you advise I do? I have a transaction which is stuck for more than one week and I don't think it will ever get confirmed with the current state of matters.

So what should I do? BTC tx accelerator sais it can do the trick for me for more than one hundred dollars, can you imagine?

Is there a way to withdraw and resend the transaction? I would be maybe willing to pay 33 USD but not 100 !!!

actually it is a very good question and more or less sooner or later (rather sooner) more people will be asking that question. Frankly, I don't know, but I would like to hear the answer as I have a very similar problem. Anybody can help?
38  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC gone down today on: December 20, 2017, 10:47:59 AM
Yes I agree, this is normal and if you guys noticed that BCH/BCC has been pumping since yesterday and down trend of BTC started yesterday. I think investors shifted their funds to BCH for the mean time to take advantage of the high volume of trading and the uptrend of BCH good time to buy BTC for now since its on a dip.coinbase induces pump.Bch buying is down now though.

I am thinking that maybe it is not only temporary move to BCH but rather they are more thinking along the lines that bitcoin becomes very insecure in the sense you cannot liquidate your position because the network is stuck.

For BCH there are no such fears.

So maybe the move to BCH is more permanent than you think
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is DEAD for small payments, Bitcoin Cash is the FUTURE on: December 20, 2017, 10:36:10 AM
Now BCC/BCH is about 20-25% of the BCC value. Does anyone think it would soon be valued at 0.5 BTC? Would BCC and BTC have the same value eventually?

Yes and the rise has just hapened tonight and today, so it is not a fixed 25%, rather it is a rise from 10% to 25% and I would predict that rise to continue. So we may be seeing levels like 50% and from there a path is short to bitcoin core being 25% of bitcoin cash
40  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Booming in the Czech Republic on: December 19, 2017, 09:44:47 AM
I think this is great! Strange though. Why the Czech Republic? What is unique to that country that inspires people to embrace Bitcoin?

There is something about people from Czechia that make them very similar in many (good) aspects to German people (they work hard, highly value order in things etc.) but on the other hand they are slovians (like Polish and Russians) so they love freedom and liberty. This is a powerful mixture. Every time I visit that country I am impressed.

Best regards from Poland to Czechia!
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