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21  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 06:06:18 PM
I would use a localbitcoin trusted seller if your buying under 9k usd  as your not require to show identification or report the cash transaction if is under 10k usd, i just see it a lot more easy when it comes to all the id verifications some of this exchanges are asking to buy bitcoin from over 1k usd.

Not bad if your shifting small singular payments around. ID is still a pain in the ass though.
22  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Laundry/Mixer on: July 16, 2015, 05:58:57 PM
FULL OBSCURITY FOR THE PEOPLE! jokes, I bet the mixers keep records.
23  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 05:07:54 PM
Suppose it depends really. If it was your breach or theirs, either way the little guy is the one who loses Roll Eyes

Is that US verification requirements though?
24  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Laundry/Mixer on: July 16, 2015, 04:51:33 PM
How would it be possible to track back to the origin source if the transactions were mixed, broken down and distributed across random intervals- all to different addresses?
25  Economy / Service Discussion / Bitcoin Laundry/Mixer on: July 16, 2015, 04:39:24 PM
Hey guys,

Do mixers actually work? In terms of blocking previous addresses that coin has came from? How likely would you, to be able to trace back the origin of payments?

Cheers guys

tully Smiley
26  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who controls bitcoins? on: July 16, 2015, 04:15:54 PM
Don't know why I found this thread so amusing Undecided
27  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 04:00:16 PM
So it is purely based on the vendor and not an actual legislative requirement?
It depends on your country. I don't know about the UK, but I know that the US has anti-money laundering laws and know-your-customer regulations that require id verification. If the exchange operates in the US, you can assume that these laws will be in play and you will have to go through the verification required by said laws.

Even though I havn't gone into much detail with the exact regulations and rules, the UK isn't far behind the US, I'm assuming Roll Eyes

Aren't there mediums like https://localbitcoins.com that don't require the identification? What do you guys think?
They don't require it, but many people on localbitcoins will be less likely to conduct trades with you if you don't verify your identity. They will be more cautious and you may not able to buy as much as a verified user.

Just wondering what the landscape for BTC legislation is going to look when this thing actually takes off and becomes mainstream.
28  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 03:41:58 PM
Thanks for the quick reply man.

Am based here in the UK so will be buying with GBP. The only trouble is I don't want to go through the lengthy process of verifying my account (yes, I have no patience).

On the link you sent, all of them say they involve "Verification" stages, is this a law or just an ethical thing? What verification stages are we talking about as well?

Thanks again


The verification is what Amph just mentioned and if you want to buy bitcoins from trusted websites, they need this verification. You can buy BTC with cash as well via bitcoinmeetups. Check this: www.coindesk.com/information/buy-bitcoin-uk/



Thanks for the link, will check it out now Grin

While there are no rules about identity within the bitcoin protocol, there are a lot of rules for using fiat currency that may apply. That is certainly true if you are using any kind of bank system, like a credit card. Once you have bitcoin then you can buy things online without handing over your identity / financial details to the vendor, card processor, NSA, and presumably the Chinese government.

After my third card replacement in a year from data breaches, I have cut the cord and ONLY use bitcoin online.

What situation would you have to be in to have your card voided?

So it is purely based on the vendor and not an actual legislative requirement?
It depends on your country. I don't know about the UK, but I know that the US has anti-money laundering laws and know-your-customer regulations that require id verification. If the exchange operates in the US, you can assume that these laws will be in play and you will have to go through the verification required by said laws.

Even though I havn't gone into much detail with the exact regulations and rules, the UK isn't far behind the US, I'm assuming Roll Eyes

Aren't there mediums like https://localbitcoins.com that don't require the identification? What do you guys think?
29  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 03:04:57 PM
So it is purely based on the vendor and not an actual legislative requirement?
30  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 02:17:44 PM
Thanks for the quick reply man.

Am based here in the UK so will be buying with GBP. The only trouble is I don't want to go through the lengthy process of verifying my account (yes, I have no patience).

On the link you sent, all of them say they involve "Verification" stages, is this a law or just an ethical thing? What verification stages are we talking about as well?

Thanks again
31  Economy / Trading Discussion / Purchasing Bitcoin (Security, Identification requirements) on: July 16, 2015, 02:04:43 PM
Greetings,

Just wondering what kind of requirements there are when it comes down to purchasing BTC and whether these requirements change as the medium of purchase changes?

Do you need ID to purchase or can I just purchase with credit/debit card details?

Thanks in advance

Tully Grin
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