I do hope they list on a big exchange soon after HitBTC (Binance or better) just so the pump and dumpers don't have it all their way. But if we all hold then the price should only go up early on. Would be great if EVN is $10 in a year or 2 and we r still holding due to increase in ROI above estimates.

Obviously the ROI of 160% in first year ($1,000 = $1,600 profit return) is based on a price per token of $1, so it means it could be more if u purchased at a discount. And this is only an estimate based on steady increase of Eth price and mining difficulty rate at the time of calc. So of course if the price of token changes u still have same number of tokens so same ROI, more or less. If things work in our favour then mining difficulty could even come down (ie China ban) and if the price of Ether doubles for example. Whatever happens EVN should be a long term hold for a steady income as surely Crypto's are here to stay and the ROI increases year on year. It should be safe at least to hold for the next 5-10 yrs at the very least, and hopefully in 5 years the ROI will be at least the 6,000% as estimated. Don't forget that we should get back our investment within 12 months so the investment risks are minimal.

That makes sense, but I am pretty certain they stated that it is based on the hourly Ether price (ie start of the hour). Which means I am due more tokens. I sure hope Envion keep their word, and I believe they will as they seem to be going out of their way to do things meticulously (maybe a bit too much for some) but I am ok with that. They also need to plan another exchange listing soon after HitBTC so that pump and dumpers don't get it all their way. Any1 heard anything on that ie Binance or larger?. But these tokens (or should they be named coins) are different to most as they should pay decent dividends (in a few months time) so I believe most will hold/hodl which means a steady price increase. Will ppl want to risk selling early then buying back much higher?

I thought u get the Ether rate at the start of each hour, but in a few cases I received the lower amount of tokens (ie after Ether price went down). So hoping they can correct these soon. The delays at the start and end of the ICO don't help (this KYC business been painfully slow). I just hope it's all worth the wait and the MMU's will be in full production soon. And the Ether price was near the peak at end of ICO so wonder if the delays mean a big loss in value due to post ICO price correction due to negative news from far east.

It means that some forks are just scams and not to install anything if prompted without being sure. Or u will compromise your accounts and could lose Ether/Evn & other MEW tokens in our wallets.

Found this on Envion Twitter page.

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⚠ After looking into EthZero, we have no clarity as to (1) what the code is (2) who created it (3) if it is properly licensed. Coupled w/ multiple .exe's that are malicious, we recommend NOT INSTALLING NOR USING ANYTHING RELATED TO ETHZERO AS IT PUTS YOUR SYSTEM & ETH AT RISK

More to the point in my opinion than listing in HitBTC which I don't mind too much, tried Binance and not much better really. This is not a good time to list as bloodbath going on in Crypto markets. Best wait til things calm down/stabilise. I'm not sure Envion reads our messages here lately. Can someone please let them know on Telegram which they seem to prefer for communications. Why the rush to list? it's more important to build the MMU's and start earning. Also 2 good exchanges same time is probably better. HitBTC is a pump and dump crazy exchange which can harm the price.

Its amazing how this coin went up while all others crashed down today. That's why I bought even more. Just the mining profit is worth it but price will be much higher year on year.

Good point JHtoko about 3rd party investment, I'm sure they will prioritise the direct investors but will be good to get some clarification on this.

By the way, on the Envion email vid today they state that listing on HitBTC will be in next couple of days and to check Telegram which I am not on. Please if anyone finds out the post date/time here. Not that I am planning to sell any precious coins, but to keep an eye on it.

I saw it listed on Coincalender and it still shows the ETG fork today. I read somewhere it was cancelled tho, not sure if it was a scam.

http://www.coincalendar.info/

Wow, congrats to all investors & to Envion! To get there even during market correction last few hours.

Anyone know what will happen with Etherium Gold hard fork on 19th Jan? If Envion hold all that Ether then they should receive plenty on ETG which could be worth a bit. So even more to invest in MMU's?

They said they will payout on a weekly basis. So if u don't own tokens ie sell u won't get any payouts of course.

I am not a fan of extending for a few more days. They have raised more than enough. I would rather they close as original deadline and just get on with it, more money means more coin circulation, more work to do & more delays for MMU's. They have plenty of work to do as it is. Also, Ether price is very high now, but what if it corrects by say 25%, that would be 25% of Envion's value gone before they even started.

So in effect, each of our tokens are already worth around $2 or close to that.

This means that surely there will be a total circulation of tokens around 50m max, nowhere near 100m.

If Ether price goes up in next half hour it could hit $100m regardless of more investments. And I am pretty sure that the amount has nearly doubled due to Ether price. I've been investing at intervals and I noticed it went up and down with Ether price. And that's good for all investors as value of company has shot up already. And also I am pretty sure they are in top 5 of all time now (I saw the top 10 list, emailed by Envion). Very exciting indeed!.. my only concern is that it will take time to get into full operation as mass production starts in April. So can count out profits until then maybe.

Now I am just waiting for several missing bonus tokens and also my 120 bounty tokens. Then all good. It's getting very exciting now. I hope Envion can start to run some units before the April date I heard them say for mass production so our profit sharing comes sooner rather than later. Lets take advantage ASAP for the holes in the mining market that China will vacate due to the bans starting this month.

My dashboard now says Verification "Successful"  ... I must be one of the first lucky ones. They are in the process now, said some may be just after the ICO ends. Best of luck to all fellow Envion investors, all will be fine I hope.

I think they may be busy in the background getting ready for launch as Jan 14th is almost here. Lots of work to do and no time to waste. At least that's what i'm hoping. Also hope they give us our missing tokens before listing. Not that I want to sell them, but for the income.