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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Idea for a coin to make the world a better place on: August 26, 2013, 12:52:32 PM
Hello
Crypto Currencies are on there way to get there fixed place in the world. But this brings us to a few problems. Couse of the anonym charakter of coins there is no tax for the states and the normal currencies (dollar,euro,..) are on there way to a system crash. So that can be a point where crypto coins can get real big in the world.
But what do we have then? A financial System without taxes, that means no state. No Police, no Streetbuilding, no social care, simple and clear pure Anarchie. I think thats the last thing peoples like to have.
 
So here is the Plan:
Lets discuss together of how a coin has to be to realy work as a big world leading curency with all the things that it needs, a pool to pay states taxes, a social system to bring the more and more mechanical done work to a benefit to all not to a few, a max coin value that increases with the users and so on.
 
Everybody who is interrested in such a discussion is invited to come to socialcoin.freeforums.org.
 
The main Problem to solve at the moment is: How to become a worldwide working 1 social coins getting account for 1 user authentication, mutliple accounts for normal use have to be possible. So if someone has an idea on that it would be nice to share
22  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 12:36:03 PM
Well if half the people here are beggars already... those who hold most the btc would be kings, and the rest poor peasants begging for satoshis to feed their families.

I dont think that much peoples here would be kings, couse there are a few real big players in that game of BTC. i think the result would more be that in the end the biggest player wins the race and gets nearly all of the mining coins, and couse he has more of 50% then he controlls the whole system then. a bit like a coporation of the biggest banks today.
23  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 09:55:32 AM
at the moment not that much couse most services are not accepting it.
but if that change then the peoples start to use. and think about one point. all the old curencys are standing in front of a hyper inflation. its only a question of time. and when that starts bitcoin becomes a safer way to have the money safed in. the big question is what is with the internet, will it crash when the financial system crash or not. if yes then bitcoin is crashed with it. if not then bitcoin becomes a good way to store the money in in that time and that can be a point of no return then.


I don't see your point. You can't live with inflation? Everyone does. It helps investments ...
If you have only deflation why would people buy anything? They will just keep their currency and wait for years to become richer... They will not invest. They will not buy, go outside.  Roll Eyes

im not talking of inflation, i talk from hyper inflation thats a complet different thing. My Point is the finance System we have (Dollar,Euro,Yen,..) has a limited time to life. Mathematicaly in 45 years it cant work anymore couse then there are more interests of banks to pay then money available. So the question is not if the system crashes its only a question of the time until then.
You say deflation is bad, infaltion is good. I think both is not realy good. Hyper inflation is what we had in germany with the Reichsmark befohr DM was born. Peoples get there money from work and on there way to the shop it losts half of the amount. in short time poststamps for example costs not 0.50 anymore they increased and costs billions. thats a hyper inflation. and thats what easy can happen if the momentary situation gets out of control. i hope you get the point now Cheesy

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24  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 09:32:15 AM
at the moment not that much couse most services are not accepting it.
but if that change then the peoples start to use. and think about one point. all the old curencys are standing in front of a hyper inflation. its only a question of time. and when that starts bitcoin becomes a safer way to have the money safed in. the big question is what is with the internet, will it crash when the financial system crash or not. if yes then bitcoin is crashed with it. if not then bitcoin becomes a good way to store the money in in that time and that can be a point of no return then.
25  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 09:06:57 AM
There is no world currency association, and the big problem is that this decisions usualy are made by the finance elite. They would profit on that. so for them it would be nice couse then they dont only lead the money more then ever they even would have the biggest private securtiy and military. So they would control the peoples much more directly then now. They dont realy have a reason not to go that step after the old money is crashed. it only brings them more power and power is what they want.

and back to the same amount of tax for everyone if that realy happens please give me a gun to kill myself.
26  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 08:52:23 AM
I like the cryptocoins couse of the anonymity and the possibilititys they bring: no freezen Accounts and so on.
But i see a big danger in it too. If BitCoin becomes the world leading Money one day that would mean much trouble for nearly anyone.
First there would be no state tax possible anymore, and a state without tax is not there. So we wouldnt have Police for example. We would have an Anarchistik Order. In that order the richest would be the Warlords and most peoples have to look where to find something to eat. That sounds not good for me. So as long as the normal curencies work, a smal bitcoin for online buisness is nice. But if it gets to the place of the normal curencys we have the problem.
And the normal curencys will crash soon or later, the question is what happens then. Just a few thoughts to discuss.

You can make flat yearly tax per citizen regardless of income

so you want everyone to pay the same tax amount? Someone who earns millions has to pay the same amount like a mother that cant work couse she must be there for her baby? poor mother  Angry and poor peoples that are looking for a job couse there are not enough jobs for everybody available.
27  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
thats nice i like happy peoples  Grin
28  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 08:34:31 AM
so what do you think is holding it away from becoming the leading money in the internet enabled states?
It grows and grows, and at the point where more and more shops online and offline accept it. there is no way to stop it. its like a self running thing if it reaches the right size.
the zones of the world without internet get it more and more. so these 60% become less and less.
29  Other / Beginners & Help / What happens if BitCoin becomes the world leading Money? on: August 26, 2013, 08:00:36 AM
I like the cryptocoins couse of the anonymity and the possibilititys they bring: no freezen Accounts and so on.
But i see a big danger in it too. If BitCoin becomes the world leading Money one day that would mean much trouble for nearly anyone.
First there would be no state tax possible anymore, and a state without tax is not there. So we wouldnt have Police for example. We would have an Anarchistik Order. In that order the richest would be the Warlords and most peoples have to look where to find something to eat. That sounds not good for me. So as long as the normal curencies work, a smal bitcoin for online buisness is nice. But if it gets to the place of the normal curencys we have the problem.
And the normal curencys will crash soon or later, the question is what happens then. Just a few thoughts to discuss.
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