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interesting article for newbies like me
Over the centuries, gold has been considered as an object of value by many different groups of people all over the world. It’s important to note that gold in itself has no value - it’s just a piece of shiny metal. Its value comes from the (somewhat perplexing) fact that everyone just agreed that it has value, and therefore it becomes valuable. The reason they chose gold versus other objects is important - gold has certain characteristics that make it a better ‘store of value’ (as it is commonly known) than other objects: For one, it is rare, which means it has limited supply(there is only a certain amount of gold in the world - if it was too abundant everyone would have it and then it would have no value). It is malleable (it can be melted and made into smaller units i.e. coins, and importantly the per unit value doesn’t change when you break it into smaller pieces, unlike things like diamonds). It is stable and doesn’t degrade, it’s easy to recognise and very importantly, difficult to counterfeit. As it turns out, Bitcoin has all of these same characteristics, and more. It has limited supply (only a specific amount of Bitcoin exists and will ever be produced). It can be made into smaller units without losing unit value (1 Bitcoin = 100,000,000 Satoshis - the smallest unit into which a Bitcoin can be broken down to, similar to the cents in a Dollar or pennies in a pound; this is also why one can buy less than one Bitcoin at a time). Its technology makes it very stable, it won’t degrade, and it’s impossible to counterfeit. On top of this, and unlike gold, you can move Bitcoin to any place on earth within minutes, no matter how big or small the amount. That’s why many people say that Bitcoin is not just digital gold, but a better version of gold. On top of that, Bitcoin has value as a payment system in itself, which gives it even more value. The more people use Bitcoin for payments, the more valuable this system becomes. It’s a bit like buying shares in Visa and then using those shares to buy a coke at your local 7-11. Because you used the Visa shares to pay, Visa (the payment system) becomes more valuable, and Visa shares become worth more. In this way, the value of Bitcoin comes from both its gold-like characteristics as well as its payment system abilities.
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Mining Altcoins Vrs Mining Bitcoins
What is the benefit to mining Altcoins over BTC
traditional bitcoin mining requires high cost. on the other hand altcoin mining requires fund and research. if you are a low risk investor and you are willing to research into multiple cryptocurrencies , mining altcoins is for you.as losses are minimal because, if you don’t make the right decisions on what coins to mine you are only going to loose a few percent.and if some coins’ price go down you will still have other cryptocurrencies to balance the losse.on the other hand, if you are looking for fast money at all cost, mining altcoins on launch might be a solution for you.I think these are the benefits of altcoin mining over bitcoin mining.
interesting Sergio .... not looking for fast money rather regular decent longterm return ... but I will defo look into mining on launch thank you looks like I will start looking deeper into 1080 cards available in UK or maybe get ripped off on ebay haha
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marketshare is something i had not considered ... thanks loud .... hahaha me and my mate will find out come end of Febuary ... due to go in his cellor
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its easier to mine different coins(altcoin) that are going up then trade it to bitcoin for profit. GPU is more versatile than Asic
makomako thanks for the help I appreciate it is that something that you do ? maybe on nicehash from the reading i have done (lots) and reaading peoples posts ect ... it seemed to me that there was no point in mining Altcoins , but why would so many people do it if it was pointless , hense the thread question when you says its easyier do you mean easyier to get started and/or more effient in turning over BTC coins than asics machine
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One big argument people will give you is that if you buy an asic, and BTC crashed, you are left with a paperweight. On the other hand, if you buy GPUs, and the altcoin you are mining crashes, you can switch coin. Or even if the entire market crashes, you can still sell the gear and make some of the money back.
There is also the fact that you can start mining altcoins with your gaming rig. Starting to mine slowly 1 GPU at a time. You don't have to start with buying a $3000 machine.
And finally, while BTC is a coin meant to be used as a currency, not all altcoins are the same. Many have a purpose, application, goal for the future. Alot of people simply believe in the projects and mine to support them.
thanks for the reply Troy *** And finally, while BTC is a coin meant to be used as a currency, not all altcoins are the same. Many have a purpose, application, goal for the future. Alot of people simply believe in the projects and mine to support them. thats a good point and a fair one ... believing in the projects and supporting them does interest me ... profit does aswell though i bought one M3 on order ... still very much interested in alt coins and i think i missing atrick somewhere lots of folk on the forum seem to play there cards tight to there chest with their mining activities
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Mining Altcoins Vrs Mining Bitcoins
What is the benefit to mining Altcoins over BTC
Why do people mine for altcoins. I dont see much profit in mining Altcoins, with the kit you have to buy for decent hashrate why would people not just buy asics kit to mine BTC
Please if anyone could explain the basic benefits of mining Altcoins, much appreciated
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100MHz (44GH) 660mV/node 2.64V total; 12V 1.4A for 16.8W/0.38J/GH 125MHz (55GH) 660mV/node 2.64V total; 12V 1.7A for 20.4W/0.37J/GH 150MHz (66GH) 660mV/node 2.64V total; 12V 2.0A for 24.0W/0.36J/GH 175MHz (77GH) 693mV/node 2.77V total; 12V 2.5A for 30.0W/0.39J/GH 200MHz (88GH) 715mV/node 2.86V total; 12V 3.1A for 37.2W/0.42J/GH 225MHz (99GH) 755mV/node 3.02V total; 12V 3.8A for 45.6W/0.46J/GH 250MHz (110GH) 770mV/node 3.08V total; 12V 4.4A for 52.8W/0.48J/GH 275MHz (121GH) 770mV/node 3.08V total; 12V 4.9A for 58.8W/0.49J/GH
I think 275MHz is reaching the upper limit of the main regulator.
You might be able to get stable results with a lower core voltage. The onboard controller will have an automatic reset function if it detects the chips lock up and drop out, which will help overall stability when operating near thresholds. That wasn't available for the above tests, so I'll repeat tests when everything's finalized.
Pretty much everything is being sold to raise money for future projects. I don't take in investment money or anything, so building and selling is the only way to move forward. The Terminus and 2Pac originally started as a project to raise money for Bitfury gear development. I've got newer better stuff in the R&D pipeline, and sales of current products will fund their development and manufacture.
I'm coordinating with a friend in need (see sig links) about doing small sales on commission. If that works out, y'all will have a point of contact a whole lot more patient and cheerful than I tend to be. So that's good news for everyone. We'll get pricing figured out shortly.
Sounds fun and I good place to start. Promising Please put me down for a a few for Europe Region
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interested , please could you send me info ..i'll message you back when my 2 available message a day replenish
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I e mailed them to ask if I could buy ten ( being deluded I wanted to ask in case they had stock ) Hello ******** Thanks so much for your inquriy. For your information, all the orders must be placed from our shop page: www.pangolinminer.com/557-2The maximum order quantity is 5pcs for each batch, and payment only accept bitcoins, sorry for any inconvenience. We will release new batch next time, please subscribe to our newsletter for getting latest information. https://mailchi.mp/d32431804546/pangolinminer-subscriptionOn Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 4:07 AM, TEAM PANGOLINMINER
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@TheShireThanks for the feedback. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) WhatsMiner is pretty much the only btc hardware at the moment that isn't so hugely overpriced, as competitors are. Of course you must take into account the slightly worse power efficiency when you are estimating your personal ROI based on your running costs. apologies going off topic a tad https://pangolinminer.com/ are limiting next batch to 5 units per person which is a good shout to help how things seem to be putting aside power is there any value machines that have the TH/S .... do you personally run any GPU set ups
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thanks HaggsFIN for taking the time to compile the detailed review, helpful comments in this thread and other hardware threads for that matter
thanks to Phillipma1957 for the video's and comments on this thread and again helpful comments in other threads
as a new starter in the UK yet to buy the reviews and comments really do help and give a bit more confidence. when trying to buy for the first time it feels like every firm is/could be a scam and trying to rip you off
I would love to buy 10 x M3 's as they fit the bill, my budget, seem excellent value Vrs other machines
if anyone has any advice on similar priced alternatives please give me the heads up. I have been researching for couple weeks....... still any advice is v.much appreciated in getting set up!
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Let's start a group buy guys! I'm in UK.
Group buy from c.uiniverse or Canaan ? ( in UK also )
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Will the PSU for the A741 work with the 821
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