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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 08, 2018, 07:19:01 AM
this is crap over 48 hours of solo mining and got nothing from, no staking and nothing from mining.

might have to switch back to pool mining.

Daily rewards seem to be way below pre-attack levels. Probably lots of people hoping to mine those high value attack blocks. Give it a month or 2 to settle down. BTW, I'd recommend a pool if you are much under 500Kh. Average earnings should be the same solo or in pool, but will be very sporadic with  low hash.
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 08, 2018, 02:07:34 AM
Speaking of fully-centralized, will people be allowed to run masternodes after the new wallet comes out? The point of a decentralized cryptocurrency is to not be run out of one node.  Huh
I think it's safe to assume so. ATM, Joe is just trying to  hold things together while the fix gets done.
23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 07, 2018, 09:47:10 PM
if minerclaim is going. theres almost 50000kh taken by 3 people alone.

Oh yes, our favourite people... the hashrate whales.
While I still think it's unfair that they funnel pretty much 80-95% of pool rewards directly into their wallets, they probably dropped a lot of money into VPSes or local hardware to get that crazy hashrate. They're probably trying to recoup the costs of doing such a crazy thing.

Actually, they are probably either botnets or some with access to a large number of computers, like at a hosting company or large university. No cost to recoup.
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 06, 2018, 01:04:44 AM
Till xpoolx will not connect to proper chain, big rewards for block will stay.

The problem is far from being over.  Huh

@Cryptopia has about 40,000 XMG. The site Admin has not been waking up yet. If indeed the site is on a different blockchain, you know what is going to happen.  Huh    Please do not blame blockchain issues on the exchange site- it is all XMG's fault. And please do not send death-threat like the RaiBlocks guys did if this should happen. https://medium.com/@ainsleyh/raiblocks-is-objectively-the-best-pure-cryptocurrency-but-its-users-are-rather-panic-prone-bfa7597750c3 Wink Wink Wink

But how many of those 40,000 XMG were deposited after the split? I'm guessing very few.
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 05, 2018, 06:27:51 AM
looks like i got it to work. i got the machines to connect to my computer that has the wallet and they are show khs

how can i tell if its working?

If it's showing hash instead of connect error, it's working. Look at my example.
Bad part is wallet shows nothing unless you get a block. I've been VNCing into all 9 machines to make sure they're still hashing, but I'm going to build a remotely accessible power meter to save me from that. If 1 machine stops mining, drop in power consumption is quite noticeable.


couldnt you do a script that just checks the CPU % at certain intervals and posts it to a page or something?


Never thought of that, thanks.
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 05, 2018, 06:20:42 AM
looks like i got it to work. i got the machines to connect to my computer that has the wallet and they are show khs

how can i tell if its working?

If it's showing hash instead of connect error, it's working. Look at my example.
Bad part is wallet shows nothing unless you get a block. I've been VNCing into all 9 machines to make sure they're still hashing, but I'm going to build a remotely accessible power meter to save me from that. If 1 machine stops mining, drop in power consumption is quite noticeable.
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 05, 2018, 06:14:53 AM
How do i setup solo mining using the windows wallet?

Set up magi.conf as follows:

# You must set rpcuser and rpcpassword to secure the JSON-RPC api
rpcuser=*user*
rpcpassword=*pass*

# Listen for RPC connections on this TCP port:
rpcport=8232

# server=1 to accept JSON-RPC commands
server=1

# listen=1 to accept connections from outside
listen=0

# RPC connection from localhost allowed
# set this to your LAN address range to allow other local machines to connect. * means 0-255 IOW any machine on LAN
rpcallowip=192.168.0.*

# Add nodes to connect to specific peers
#connect=104.128.225.215

# Add nodes to connect to specific peers
addnode=104.128.225.215
addnode=45.35.251.73

# posii=1 to enable PoS staking; default = 0
posii=1

# Transaction under stake with a value greater than the threshold is being splitted
stakesplitthreshold=1000

# Transactions with values less than the threshold will combine into one
stakecombinethreshold=500


Launch your miner with:

C:\XMGpoolminerWin64\m-minerd.exe -a m7mhash -o http://192.168.0.141:8232 -u *user* -p *pass* --threads 12

this breaks down as follows:
"C:\XMGpoolminerWin64\m-minerd.exe"  *** adjust to path of miner
                                            
-a m7mhash *** for magi mining

-o http://192.168.0.141:8232 *** address and port of wallet server

*user* *** user from magi.conf  don't use any *

*pass* *** pass from magi.conf

--threads 12 *** number of threads you want, no more than 1 per core

Don't forget to open your firewall for incoming connections to your wallet.

No yay or boo when mining solo, what you'll see if all is well is this:

C:\XMGpoolminerWin64>C:\XMGpoolminerWin64\m-minerd.exe -a m7mhash -o http://192.168.0.141:8232 -u ***** -p ***** --threads 12
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 0 to cpu 0
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 3 to cpu 3
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 4 to cpu 4
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 5 to cpu 5
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 6 to cpu 6
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 7 to cpu 7
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 8 to cpu 8
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 9 to cpu 9
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 10 to cpu 10
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] 12 miner threads started, using 'm7mhash' algorithm.
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] Binding thread 11 to cpu 11
[2018-05-05 02:06:23] No payout address provided, switching to getwork
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 6: 262144 hashes, 9.29 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 9: 262144 hashes, 9.26 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 11: 262144 hashes, 9.25 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 8: 262144 hashes, 9.20 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 0: 262144 hashes, 9.20 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 4: 262144 hashes, 9.16 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 1: 262144 hashes, 9.10 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 7: 262144 hashes, 9.10 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:52] thread 3: 262144 hashes, 9.07 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:53] thread 2: 262144 hashes, 8.97 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:53] thread 10: 262144 hashes, 8.82 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:53] thread 5: 262144 hashes, 8.72 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:56] thread 2: 35872 hashes, 9.22 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 9: 46314 hashes, 9.35 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 6: 46457 hashes, 9.18 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 0: 45994 hashes, 9.27 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 11: 46261 hashes, 8.99 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 8: 45994 hashes, 9.23 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 4: 45778 hashes, 9.26 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 1: 45507 hashes, 9.21 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 7: 45497 hashes, 9.26 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 10: 35265 hashes, 8.72 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 3: 45349 hashes, 9.29 khash/s
[2018-05-05 02:06:57] thread 5: 34876 hashes, 9.29 khash/s

If you get message about connect error, make sure wallet is running, check wallet address & port, user & pass, etc.
Also, try running a miner on same machine as wallet by using 127.0.0.1:port , this shoulg get around firewall problems.
Wallet must be in sync for mining to work.
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 05, 2018, 05:18:35 AM
Either there's a problem with minerclaim or there is a major network issue.

Alot of boos and hashrates are very low.

WOW i just found out that supernova is already shutdown. like bullmining is going to do.

others is follow??

Something is very different this time. I'm showing the increased block reward, but not getting any orphans, and no blocks either. This is solo mining, like usual.

BTW, on the attack before this 1, my wallet was showing several times the orphans it usually gets during an attack. Either the attack is changing, or pools all going down is causing very low "legitimate" hashing power. I hope this doesn't kill the network.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 05, 2018, 03:02:48 AM
I know it is uber fantastic idea, but what if you make the coin mineable only with... linux. It sounds a bit stupid even for me, but it can solve a problem - remove botnets. There are no linux botnets around. It seems a bit fantastic, but can make coin profitable.
I am fully agree with you. Only with "it sounds a bit stupid")
Grin

Linux only? That's what 95% of my miners run, but only accounts for only 35-ish% of my mining power. The Core i5-7200U in my Windows laptop, when it's rarely running, is more powerful than all my devices. Plus, I'm fairly sure that Vitalik's botnet is mostly comprised of VPSes running a variant of a Linux distro like Ubuntu, Redhat or Arch.

Not to mention that completely alienates the Windows XMG community.

More to the point, how would you make it only mineable in Linux? Can't do it.
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 04, 2018, 01:46:31 AM
a video if you like to understand the attack
https://youtu.be/9dPeMXr23i4?t=1h11m23s

this make sense

so the main issue is weak legit hashpower compared to
hostile hashpower

as long as u dont fix that this attack vector will stay valid

remove POW issue is fixed

plain and simple

fuck traditions if they are bad


Very large hashing power is (I think) a required part of his attack, but it's not the whole thing. He is exploiting a weakness in the code which is specific to Magi. I have no idea what that weakness is, but I suspect Joe does. Relax, it will be fixed.

POS only? That creates a different problem. People with large amount of Magi will be getting big rewards, those with very little will be basically getting nothing. That's hardly fair either, is it? Also remember that POS coins CAN be attacked.
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 03, 2018, 04:27:44 AM
I just discovered CPU mining at the beginning of March and that made me want to learn about coin mining in general, and then this stuff happens.

What a bad first impression I'm getting from crypto.  This is complete bullshit.

Complete bullshit with $400kkk+ capitalisation, yep)

No, what's bullshit is that you're still doing this to the network. You don't have the right to complain about the network when you're single-handedly destroying it. Anything you say bears next to no relevance, so do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

He's not destroying the network, just exploiting a weakness for profit. All miners should be benefiting from his exploit, unless the pool they're in shuts down before it ends.

He has claimed he can destroy the network if he wanted to, be happy his motivation is profit. There are, after all, some people who destroy things just for the LOLs.

Give joe some time to fix things, the network, and the coin, will be stronger in the end.

You and him must be the only ones getting rewards from this. I have not gotten anything since the last few days. I was bringing around a coin every other day. Now literally no deposits. So you and him can both explain how you are getting rewards and no one else is.

I described what I'm running a few pages ago, search if you really want to know. But I've got 1Mh, or 1000Kh, whichever you wish to call it. 9 servers running m-minerd (unmodified) and all mining solo into 1 Magi wallet  v1.4.5.3 (64-bit) (also unmodified) running on a separate machine. All 10 of these are synced by ntpd to my own stratum 1 ntp server, which is synced to a GPSDO. No time manipulation or anything, everything is within 1ms of correct time. I point this last fact out as I've seen reference to a "time attack". I'm not trying any "voodoo" mining tricks, nor would I have a clue how to.

Last 2 days not so good, due to me trying my luck on minerclaim. ~10 yesterday, 0 today because they shut down. Probably won't get the 10 either, minerclaim wasn't great during previous attack. Switched back to solo. Keep in mind, not every day is great. Someday it's 0 or 1 or something, others maybe 15 or 40 or such, usually as 1 block, but the weekly average is good. And some days you hit lottery, 1 day it was over 160 Smiley Just keep mining, you can't win without playing.
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 03, 2018, 02:52:37 AM
I just discovered CPU mining at the beginning of March and that made me want to learn about coin mining in general, and then this stuff happens.

What a bad first impression I'm getting from crypto.  This is complete bullshit.

Complete bullshit with $400kkk+ capitalisation, yep)

No, what's bullshit is that you're still doing this to the network. You don't have the right to complain about the network when you're single-handedly destroying it. Anything you say bears next to no relevance, so do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

He's not destroying the network, just exploiting a weakness for profit. All miners should be benefiting from his exploit, unless the pool they're in shuts down before it ends.

He has claimed he can destroy the network if he wanted to, be happy his motivation is profit. There are, after all, some people who destroy things just for the LOLs.

Give joe some time to fix things, the network, and the coin, will be stronger in the end.
33  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 02, 2018, 08:24:53 PM
Noticed developments and improvements activity on Slack. Main dev Joe is working on it!👍
Thanks for the update - hope all is well!
I have faith in Joe. He can make awesome things!

I have the same hope 111Magic, just wish he updated status here more often.

Every minute he spends posting here is a moment not spent on development. Even worse, every distraction interrupts your train of thought, so even more time lost.
34  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 02, 2018, 12:53:31 AM
To state it a little more clearly, I want to know if it works like this.

Person A has 100 devices mining that have a total hashrate of 1000kh/s
Person B has 1 device mining that has a total hashrate of 1000kh/s

Do person A and person B have the same affect on block rewards or does person A result in low rewards and person B results in high rewards?  In order for this coin to make any sense then I think it has to work like this. This type of reward structure disincentives certain types of miners from even bothering the network at all since their rewards won't be worthwhile if they solve blocks.

1000Kh is 1000Kh, regardless of number of machines.

The block reward is set by global hashrate and nothing else?  What is the point of this coin? Any single person can tank the block reward for the whole network. A next gen eco-friendly coin would work like my scenario and reward low hash devices higher than large hashrate devices, thus emphasizing a smaller mining footprint.

Where is that coin being developed?  Because I want to join that community.

That coin is being developed nowhere, because it can't work. You could just run multiple miners in VMs, each with a different public IP to get around any limitations while still reaping  huge rewards. I actually like the concept, but it's hopeless.
35  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 02, 2018, 12:27:20 AM
To state it a little more clearly, I want to know if it works like this.

Person A has 100 devices mining that have a total hashrate of 1000kh/s
Person B has 1 device mining that has a total hashrate of 1000kh/s

Do person A and person B have the same affect on block rewards or does person A result in low rewards and person B results in high rewards?  In order for this coin to make any sense then I think it has to work like this. This type of reward structure disincentives certain types of miners from even bothering the network at all since their rewards won't be worthwhile if they solve blocks.

1000Kh is 1000Kh, regardless of number of machines.
36  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 02, 2018, 12:24:53 AM

Sure, after the orphaned blocks, whales who mine at over 1,000 KH/S make more XMG, but for people like myself who mine at anywhere between 35-75 KH/s, there is not a significant increase in profit. It's not a great exploit for everyone if only 5% of the community benefit from it.

This is what everybody who thinks this is beneficial needs to understand. If you can dump a bunch of hash at it then you are probably coming out ahead. If you have only a modest hashrate then you aren't.

I am interested in having a technical conversation about how the block reward calculation is supposed to work when the network is healthy. The way that this coin can grow and succeed is if modest hashrate devices are incentivized and large hashrate devices are disincentivized.

So is the block reward set based on the global hashrate or is it set based on the individual hashrate of the device that solves the previous block? I think the ideal way that the coin SHOULD work is like this: a low hashrate device such as a raspberry pi solves a block --> the block reward goes up. a high hashrate device solves a block --> the block reward goes down.

Can someone with more technical knowledge of the coin let me know if that is true? Is the reward adjustment for the current block or does it change for the following block?

No, it's not just whales that win. If your'e mining in a pool, you get a percentage of the block rewards based on the percentage of hashing you have contributed. If a guy with 15Mh gets 10X the "normal" a guy with 15Kh also gets 10X. Granted, it's a tiny amount compared to the whale, but it's still a lot more than he would have got.

While we're on the subject of whales and pools, let me cover another area of stupidity I keep seeing. A whale entering your low hashrate pool does not destroy the rewards for the little guys, nor does he improve them. Block rewards are based on NETWORK hashrate, not POOL hashrate. A few "big guys" will mean the pool solves a lot more blocks, so rewards will be more regular. There will be many more coins coming into the pool, but you will get a smaller percentage, averaging out to about the same amount. IOW, instead of getting  10% of 100, you will get 1% of 1000. There will be more rewards per day, you'll get a smaller piece of each.
37  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 01, 2018, 09:27:40 PM
I have made 2 xmg in 4 days.  How much did you make.  
All orphans are created by me, as I said before, forget about orphans.
What is your hashrate? And pool?
And how much XMG did you lose, you think?

Hashrate is 200 KH/s   Was on Suprnova until he shut the pool down.  Been using different pools.

i'm sure you could figure out how much since your attack started.

Now my question,  how much have you made?

 

You've been helped by the attacks. Before attacks started I was getting 1-2 coins/day with 1Mh. Vitalik is not taking coins from anybody's wallet, he is just grabbing lots of coins for himself, and we are all getting a lot more coins as well. Over the last 4 weeks, Iv'e averaged 23.5 coins/day Smiley Thank you very much, Vitalik_Pedik!

I never said in any post he was"taking coins for wallets" , just so thats understood!   If your getting 23.5 per day, profit for you.  Explain how cuz I would love that return.

I don't think anyone has accused him of stealing coins directly from peoples wallets. But some do call him a thief. A thief takes property that belongs to someone else. He is not doing that. He has taken a flaw in the Magi client and basically used it to build himself a better miner. Maybe not 100% fair, but certainly not theft. I actually respect his effort. And I'll respect the developer's effort to patch the flaw.

That 23.5 is an average over 28 days, some days it's under 1, 1 day it was over 160! No tricks here, just solo mining at 1Mh. Software is XMGpoolminerWin64 (m-minerd.exe), hardware is 9 dumpster class servers with 2 6-core AMD Opteron 2431 CPUs (2.4 GHz) each. Total power is ~1.8KW.
38  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 01, 2018, 08:40:27 PM
I have made 2 xmg in 4 days.  How much did you make.  
All orphans are created by me, as I said before, forget about orphans.
What is your hashrate? And pool?
And how much XMG did you lose, you think?

Hashrate is 200 KH/s   Was on Suprnova until he shut the pool down.  Been using different pools.

i'm sure you could figure out how much since your attack started.

Now my question,  how much have you made?

 

You should not care about my income. It is not your deal.
And how much XMG did you lose, you think? You made 2 xmg in 4 days, how much should it be?

Thought it was a fair question to ask.  You have been upfront with every thing else. 

On average, depending on pool, status of network, etc...  4-8 xmg per day.  Using 2 rigs with 5 RPI's each. 

4-8 XMG/day with 10 RPIs? That was a long time ago my friend.
39  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: May 01, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
I have made 2 xmg in 4 days.  How much did you make.  
All orphans are created by me, as I said before, forget about orphans.
What is your hashrate? And pool?
And how much XMG did you lose, you think?

Hashrate is 200 KH/s   Was on Suprnova until he shut the pool down.  Been using different pools.

i'm sure you could figure out how much since your attack started.

Now my question,  how much have you made?

 

You've been helped by the attacks. Before attacks started I was getting 1-2 coins/day with 1Mh. Vitalik is not taking coins from anybody's wallet, he is just grabbing lots of coins for himself, and we are all getting a lot more coins as well. Over the last 4 weeks, Iv'e averaged 23.5 coins/day Smiley Thank you very much, Vitalik_Pedik!
40  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XMG] MAGI | CPU mining | mPoW | mPoS | [MagiPay] on: March 19, 2018, 12:15:00 AM
is there a problem with the network guys? I have not staked for quite some time.

Lots of orphaned blocks the last few days, but staking is working fine here. I stake about 4 or 5 times a day with ~3500 XMG in my account. I have noticed the reward for staking is a bit lower the last few days.
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