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I was also trying to trade with Peezr but after I mentioned the word "escrow" I never heard from him again.
u might have not heard from me because of the 5 pms a hour. That's why. I've said that days ago Well, it's been over 170 hours since December the 2nd. Now as i woke up this morning i can send pms more cause i see my activity went up.
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Make sure to use escrow
Do you even understand what escrow is? Escrow will not help you if Payza decides to be an ass and freeze your account and the money you have there which is basically what happened in his case. It might not help.. but escrow can request proof of ownership I still don't see how escrow provides any advantage (aside from costing you fees which isn't really an advantage for you). It doesn't protect you from chargebacks or from Payza deciding to freeze your account. It only helps you if one of the parties is a scammer, but then the question should be why are you dealing with a scanner in the first place... +1
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I was also trying to trade with Peezr but after I mentioned the word "escrow" I never heard from him again.
u might have not heard from me because of the 5 pms a hour. That's why. I've said that days ago
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Make sure to use escrow
Do you even understand what escrow is? Escrow will not help you if Payza decides to be an ass and freeze your account and the money you have there which is basically what happened in his case. It might not help.. but escrow can request proof of ownership
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I think maybe it is acceptable to make the thief's address public here? If Doron does not mind his address is disclosed too, disclosing that transaction may help us to trace it to the thief.
Actually I have the saved info so if Doran agrees i can put it here. Pouncer has to agree also I still don't quite get it. Are you claiming you didn't do it or are you a regretful thief? You claimed you got hacked? At what point? I'm not claiming i got hacked. Its what happened. Did you remember ppl got hacked a few days ago?
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I think maybe it is acceptable to make the thief's address public here? If Doron does not mind his address is disclosed too, disclosing that transaction may help us to trace it to the thief.
Actually I have the saved info so if Doran agrees i can put it here. Pouncer has to agree also
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Following the incident reported by Doron404 below, here is a summary of what transpired (timestamp in UTC +13hrs): 09-12-2013 8:41:42I received an escrow request from Doron404 (buyer) for an MSC trade with Peezr (seller) worth a total of 2.88 BTC 09-12-2013 11:51:46I sent out a PM to buyer & seller containing Trade Details based on information received from Doron404 through the escrow form. The Trade Details PM requested both parties to verify that the information contained therein was correct, and if so to proceed according to the instructions. Escrow address given was: 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF 09-12-2013, 14:50:35I received a PM from Doron404 asking what happened to the BTC which he just sent to xxx since the MSC has not been delivered. 09-12-2013, 14:55:57I received a PM from Doron404 asking if escrow address was xxx, suspecting that Peezr had swapped the escrow address with the BTC receiving address when replying with a quote. 09-12-2013, 15:27:42I sent PM to Doron404 confirming that the escrow address was 1HjQ76Ssnoqof8Bb2Fifi28M1VJWV5maGF as per my original PM, but has been swapped by the seller. This was said based on the quote from Peezr embedded in Doron404's PM to me. Who is liable for this loss?In my Trade Details PM, I requested both parties to use the "Reply to All" button when communicating, so that the entire conversation regarding a particular trade can be easily tracked by all parties. I did not foresee this potential exploit, and hence did not warn users to refer to original PM when sending to escrow. I have successfully executed 93 escrow trades totalling 682.76 BTC using this this system before this incident. If there is consensus amongst the community that I am liable, I am prepared to compensate Doron404 for this scam. I would also like to announce that I will be ceasing to act as an escrow agent in this thread with immediate effect. Pouncer I have temporarily disabled the escrow request form until we resolve this issue. We don't want anyone else to be a victim. 2) Please use escrow service provided by Maxmint and Pouncer.
He did, but Peezr changed the escrow address to his personal address very sneaky. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) How? I assume the escrow address is PMed by Maxmint or Pouncer. How could Peezr change it? Moreover, if he did so, then we should report to the moderator and ban his account immediately. I believe he replied all, and in quotes he changed the escrow address to his address, and Doron probably copied the escrow address from peezr's PM instead of the original pouncers message exactly. No don't do that. If pouncer agrees, I'd like to reimburse him. My account is the one who has gotten hacked. I changed my password so futurely hope it doesn't happen again.
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I'm looking to trade 0.10 BTC for 1,000 DOGE Escrow preferred.
PM me.
You might want to put this in the Alt crypt thread.
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Really sorry that this happened to Doron404 ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I removed Peezr from the order book. Peezr, if you think you're wrongly accused, feel free to make a statement here and clarify things. Lesson to learn: When using escrow, always check the original PM (coming from the escrow agent) and don't trust quotes.As an additional security measure, I will from now on sign escrow details with the GPG key in my signature. Firstly, I didn't change the addresses. Secondly, I just responded. But when i clicked it i saw coins, but not in my wallet nor escrow's wallet. I changed my password because i believe I've been hacked, but i'm pretty sure nobody would believe it anyways. I also notified admin about it. This forum gets hacked way too much.
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Payza shut down service to US members, leaving me in limbo with $513.27 earned from LTC mining frozen, unable to liquidate.
Can't add, send, nor receive funds.
Based on this, who knows whether they'll just shut down completely.
Make sure to use escrow
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Hello
I selling 0.26 BTC via Bank Transfer (UK Only) or Ping it.
Rob
Please make sure u use escrow.. and make sure u get to talk to them too. Many scammers on this forum.
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Title says it. I Might take moneypak. Deal pending with one user against MP anyways. I want amazon gift card. I know it can chargeback.. so I will be verifying it with amazon. I don't want my account blocked. Oh and I'm selling 2.134 btc at btc-e rates. Thanks/.
if you sale your bitcoin for amazon GC you can paying Amazon GC from this site https://www.gyft.com/bitcoin/thank you I don't like their rates. Thats why I didnt go there.. but If i can't get my offer here.. i'll go there. Edit: deal pending here.
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I really don't mine anymore. Not profitable.
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I can sell you some btc. I can sell at btc-e rates. I'm not in Cali though so I'd take GDMP here or on localbitcoins.com where i have my feedback at.
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I just removed a couple of orders from the order book (a PM was sent to these buyers and sellers). To keep the order book clean, any orders which are in the crossed book longer than 3 days will be removed.The crossed book is marked in the rightmost column. Yes you pm'ed me. change mine to 30 msc at 0.22 per thanks!
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very hard for anyone to accept payza. its got many problems.
No its not. He can go on localbitcoins.
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Title says it. I Might take moneypak. Deal pending with one user against MP anyways. I want amazon gift card. I know it can chargeback.. so I will be verifying it with amazon. I don't want my account blocked. Oh and I'm selling 2.134 btc at btc-e rates. Thanks/.
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Ok the situation is simple. I just signed up today on bitcointalk, and i need to start trading, but i don't have any BTC at all. I don't have any reputation here, but I am a ptc/gpt member of Emoneyspace forum for about a year with high reputation of sales there. Link to my profile: http://www.emoneyspace.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=281811So i need to by something small, 0.01 BTC will be fine, i can pay paypal only. I try buying on localbitcoins, but no luck so far. I would realy appreciate if anyone could help me get started. I will pay first of course. I was instructed to trade to members with high reputation only. I am a newbie, but im not stupid ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Thanks. UM.. people on LBC do accept paypal. if you can prove the account is yours. Just do that.
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what happened to me? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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True, it's a high-stakes matter, and he seems to have goofed up the parcel tracking. But it's surprising to see such an accusation levied when not even 3 weeks have passed. Best wishes getting this resolved.
how long is he supposed to wait? i don't think hes asked for anything out of the ordinary I want to be the first to say its weird that the forum has all these hackings going on. Secondly.. please check him. I wanted to trade with him a week ago and said if I wanted to deal fast.. i don't need escrow.. I'm sorry my otc and localbitcoins feedback is way greater than his and i insisted on me paying for ANY escrow. I think its bullshit that he decides hes good enough for escrow.
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