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21  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 23, 2018, 09:28:54 PM
If I'm not from Us, can I invest?

You can participate in the Pre-Sale which is set for March 24th.

https://xiwatt.io/

Best regards,

-Hamza
22  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 21, 2018, 10:44:56 PM
Very interesting project but I have hard time trying to understand how this will work exactly ! . To tokenize something is not a hard thing but how you plan to transfer it in reality . We can trade buy sell this tokens without any problems , but if this tokens have no way to be transfer in reality , then how it gonna again any value ? .

Can we get more details on this please !?

Hi Khufuking,

Thanks for your feedback.

Tokenzing any real world asset requires some sort of action to be conducted outside of the blockchain. The blockchain on it's own can't ensure a action will take place outside of it, this is the reason you need organizations and companies to run projects. In our case, we are the ones that ensure things work the way they should. We just leverage the blockchain in a way that allows for transparency and autonomy where it makes sense, you can read more about this in our white paper.

Here is a simplified breakdown of how things work within our platform:

-Renewable energy projects are listed on the platform (We call them Sectors)

-Sectors can range in size, but are usually larger than 1MW

-Each Sector has an established PPA. A PPA is a power purchase agreement between the buyer and seller of energy. For example, it could be a wind farm that sells their energy to a utility. PPAs are usually signed with 20 year contracts.

-After the Sector is listed on the platform it is opened for crowdfunding

-You can contribute to a sector in return for a "Sector Token" which represents a share (installed capacity) of the Sector. Just keep in mind that each sector will have it's own tokens. You can think of this as Mini-Icos except for Renewable energy Projects.

-Once the sector sells its energy to the customer, our platform collects the revenue and tokenizes it. We call these tokens "NRG". Each NRG token represents $1 worth of energy

-These NRG tokens are distributed to the Sector token holders in proportion to how many Sector tokens they hold.

-The participant can chose to exchange their NRG token for USD (possibly crypto as well) or they can use it as energy credits to pay their utility bill via our application called Cloud Net metering.


What i described above is just one way a Sector could work. In reality, Sectors will vary depending on location and regulations. The key thing about this is that any one can participate in our platform, you don't have to be tied to the same grid as the renewable energy asset.

I hope that makes sense.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

Best regards,

-Hamza



23  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 19, 2018, 08:52:37 PM
Hi everyone,

Thank you for the feedback.

We just put out a new article: "Why the Time is ripe to shift ownership of renewable energy"

https://medium.com/xiwatt/why-the-time-is-ripe-to-shift-ownership-of-renewable-energy-29b86d3acf3a

Take a look and let us know what you think.

-Hamza
24  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 16, 2018, 02:48:12 PM
Green energy becoming more hot in these days project after project on the same idea. You have any comparison chart to show in details what are advantages to invest into this project. Most of the people already of some of them projects before this.

Hi AlloM,

There is a very detailed compare and contrast breakdown on the first page, did you get a chance to read it?

Best regards,

-Hamza
25  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 15, 2018, 01:03:14 AM
Hello there, please note that there's a typo on roadmap section:



Hi Sabotag3x,

Great catch, let us know if you find anything else.

I'd love to get your feedback on our whitepaper.

Best regards,

-Hamza
26  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 14, 2018, 05:13:43 PM
Hi Coin163,

hi dev, Do I need to fill the KYC to practice in your pre-sale event?

Yes, KYCs are required to participate in the pre-sale.

I see there only 2 advisors for your project in current stage I don't think it is good to bring me trust that you can compete with all of your listing project above.

We chose our advisors based on their ability to actually advise us , instead of name sake. There is a lot of paid advisors and overinflated teams in the space.

Having said that, we have key advisors working with us that are recognized in the space, which will be announced at strategic times before the pre-sale

Do you have any plan or big company that's working in Energy industry to help your project (maybe soon)?

We’ve secured the backing and partnerships of prominent players. One of which will put us in the ranks of the elite few in the space (3-4 other projects have had something similar). Again, these announcements will be made at the appropriate times before the pre-sale.

I understand that so much of this space is about hype, but I think it’s important that people take the time to understand the project and grill the founders. Hype should be built on something real, we aim to do that Smiley

Best regards,

-Hamza
27  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 14, 2018, 12:33:17 PM
hi BM,do you have link on the bounty spreadsheet?thank you

Hi,

For bounty related questions refer to our Bounty thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2935320

The spreadsheet can be found on the first message on the Bounty thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2935320.msg30161448#msg30161448
28  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 13, 2018, 06:57:15 PM
green energy projects, I hope this project can expand to asia especially Indonesia  Wink

Our model will initially be proven in the US as it has some of the most complex rules and regulations surrounding the energy space. Once it has been proven, we plan to expand to other locations, such as Europe and Asia. The platform is agnostic of location. This is the reason we designed it in the manner we did and one of the key differentiators in this space. There really is nothing like this, off or on the blockchain.
29  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 13, 2018, 06:06:16 PM
Please prepare a detailed comparative description.
Because, I did not see any specific differences with the same WePower

Hi,

Here is a more detailed breakdown:


WePower (Based out of Estonia)

Wepower is a platform that allows renewable energy projects to sell their energy on the platform by tokenizing it. The tokenized energy is called “Energy Token”. Each Energy token represents 1 kWh of energy. The purpose of doing this is to allow for upcoming or existing renewable energy projects to raise capital (for expansion or creation) by selling this energy in advance.

Wepower, “WPR” tokens give its holders priority access to the auctions which will be selling the energy tokens and in addition to this, the holders of WPR will be receiving 0.9% of the energy produced by all of the renewable energy projects that sign on to the platform.

In terms of the business model, they don’t spell out why this would be beneficial. Usually, the problem with building large-scale renewable energy projects is not the lack of funds, it’s the ability to find customers willing to consume the energy. In most places, once a developer has a PPA (Power Purchase Agreement) with a customer, they can easily find financing from traditional sources, especially so in Europe (in most cases the loans can be at 0%). If the project is already at a point where they have a PPA signed, it makes little sense to “sell energy in advance”. The business model outlined in the Wepower paper does not get into the details of the complexity involved with the actual sale of energy from these renewable energy projects.

To put it simply, they’ve taken the long road in offering a simple loan system by way of tokenizing the sale of future energy production.


Power Ledger (Based out of Australia)

Power ledger provides enterprise level software that will tackle the business layer of the Grid. It’s success depends on working with existing utilities, suppliers and the Independent system operators (responsible for balancing the Grid). In the white paper they listed out a number of applications but didn’t go into details of how they would operate. Some of the proposed applications heavily rely on futuristic concepts that have not yet panned out in the real world. Either way, their enterprise software looks promising.

In terms of how they utilize the blockchain within their platform, it doesn’t serve any clear advantage when compared to traditional implementations. They are setting up for a future where P2P energy trading becomes a reality. In order for this to occur, there has to be a breakthrough in energy storage technologies (batteries) for the consumer market (Tesla is working on this with their Gigafactories).

In terms of their token “PWR”, I had a tough time understanding the mechanics of the token based on the white paper, it sort of made sense, but I have yet to fully grasp its purpose. Given that their platform will utilize private and public blockchains, I don’t believe it’s integral to the platform. This is really a mute point because most blockchains shoehorn their token into the system to allow the raising of funds.


RED - Restart Energy (Based out of Romania)

I would have grouped this with power ledger as they are proposing a similar platform, but I felt power ledger deserved its own breakdown.

For RED, it’s an existing utility based company that’s developing software solutions for maintaining the grid, P2P trading and energy marketplace for purchasing and selling energy. This type of software is intended to be used by Independent System Operators (ISO), utility companies and/or large scale customers. The white paper gives a very high-level description of what they are trying to do, but it lacks details for how the system works or why it’s needed. I didn’t see a business model that explains the need for the MWATT token.

They are also making some very bold claims by stating they will expand across the globe in a few years, this type of system adoption would require the cooperation of governments, states, utilities, ISO/RTOs…. The list goes on. To understand why this claim is farfetched, you have to understand how regulated the energy market is in most parts of the world. In some cases, it’s because of monopolization but the real concern is how controlled and secure this type of infrastructure needs to be.

In terms of their token, they describe it as a “virtual battery”. I’m not sure why they compare it to this as it would more accurately be described as an access token. More concerningly is that they are selling this to the masses when the main users of their platform will be the RTOs/ISOs, Utitlies and large-scale energy consumers/producers.


Grid+ (Based out of the US)

Grid Plus is a project by Consensys. I’ve read their white paper multiple times and it’s one of the few white papers that does an excellent job of educating the reader in what they are trying to accomplish.

Grid+ wants to enter as an energy retailer in deregulated markets. To understand this, you have to understand how the Grid operates in the US. To summarize it briefly, the grid in the US is made up of 4 components:

Generation - Power plants, nuclear plants, wind farms, etc. (producers of energy)
Transmission - These are the high voltage lines that bring electricity to the city
Distribution - These are the lower voltage lines that carry the electricity into neighbourhoods down into your homes.
Retail - Called different things in different places, but they are the company that buys energy from the generator at wholesale prices and sells it to residents.

Grid+ is trying to enter the market as a retailer. They're developing a hardware “agent” that will sit in your home and arbitrage energy (buy energy at lower prices and store it (if there is a battery), then sell when it’s high) on your behalf, along with other functionality. Like Powerledger, their current implementation doesn’t serve any advantages over existing implementations, but they are preparing for a world in which P2P energy trading will become a reality. Again, for this to happen we would have to see mass battery adoption in the consumer market.  

The GRID token represents a certain amount of energy at a wholesale price. It’s basically a voucher that gives you wholesale energy instead of the marked up price. You will have to be a customer of Grid+ in order to use the GRID token, they plan on launching their platform in Texas.  

Grid+ clearly has a qualified team and their whitepaper explains very well what they are doing. In terms of their business model, they can be successful in Texas, but in the long term, they probably have a better chance of being successful by licensing their technology and the only reason someone would want their tech is if p2p trading of energy becomes a reality. They’ll have to compete with other companies who are working on the same problem.

I felt Grid+ was one of the only projects where they explained in detailed how their project will work. I loved their white paper.


XiWATT (based out of the US)

On a high level, XiWATT is a platform that is connecting renewable energy developers, customers and investors to each other with promised benefits to each group of users. We provide a means for the creation, funding and management of renewable energy projects which is managed on the blockchain. In our Whitepaper, we explain in detail how we allow for the creation and crowdfunding of renewable energy assets.This is distinct from Wepower’s model, where you are purchasing tokenized energy for later use (essentially a loan). In XiWATT’s model, we are tokenizing the underlying energy asset along with the energy production. Our platform is built on the concept of “Sectors”. Each sector represents a renewable energy developer and a customer coming together to form a renewable energy project. Once the terms of the sale of energy are established between the developer and customer, the sector is opened up for crowdfunding. The participants who fund the project receive a “sector token” which is the tokenized form of installed capacity (size) of the sector. So, essentially the crowdfunders own a piece of the renewable energy asset. The energy revenues that are produced from the sector are also tokenized in the form of “NRG” token which represent $1 worth of energy.

The sectors on the platform are similar to the concept of mini-ICOs, but instead, each ICO is a renewable energy project. They are set up independently to each other via unique smart contracts. This allows each sector the flexibility necessary to navigate the intricate local and state level regulations. You can read through our white paper for some example use cases. One of our core applications is called “Cloud Net Metering”, which allows users to use the NRG tokens as credits to pay utility bills via 3rd party billing system set up by XiWATT. This means that users would be able to use the energy produced from renewable energy assets without actually being connected to the same grid. NRG tokens can also be used to simply “cash out” as they have a 1:1 ratio with $1.


The XIW token (the token that will be sold in the TGE) is integral to the ecosystem of our platform. Unlike most tokens, we spent an extensive amount of time creating a robust economy around the token use. I really can’t do it justice by summarizing it in a few sentences, but I promise, if you take the time to read the white paper, you’ll actually understand the need and use of the token. Having said that here is a one-liner for the token:

“The XIW Token Model is predicated on a simple barter economy between customers and developers on the XiCE platform. Developers need XIW tokens in order to bid on renewable energy projects, and the only way they can acquire it is through customers offering it. As the platform grows, more customers become available, which means that there is more business to be acquired by participating developers, but only if they have the XIW tokens to satisfy bidding conditions.”


TLDR: Most of the current energy projects in the ICO space are trying to create a platform that enables p2p energy trading (among other things, but this is the core application that would leverage the use of the blockchain), this will not be possible until we see battery penetration in the consumer market.

Wepower is trying to boost the funding of renewable energy projects by allowing them to sell their energy in advance at a cheaper rate via auctions. To put it simply, you’re giving a loan to the renewable energy project. In my opinion, this business model makes little sense as these types of projects can simply get a very favorable rate from a bank (in some cases interest-free).

In comparison, XiWATT allows users to co-own the actual renewable energy project. The users don’t have to be directly tied to the same grid as the renewable energy project in order to “consume” the energy made possible via an application called “Cloud Net Metering”
30  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 12, 2018, 11:28:39 PM
Hi Everyone,

We've set the date for the pre-sale: March 24th!

https://medium.com/xiwatt/xiwatt-announcement-pre-sale-begins-march-24th-b7f11d7082ba

At the same time, we are kicking off our bounty campaign, which will mark the beginning of our "public" campaign.

Stay tuned, we have a lot of updates coming up.

-Hamza
31  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 12, 2018, 06:22:01 PM
REDEnergy, WePower, Power Ledger... is this trend of such projects?  Grin

Thanks for your question.

There has been a steady increase in energy-related projects, but they fall into different categories and provide solutions to different needs. You have to understand that the energy space is massive with various components, each one with its own niche markets. This is why you have 1000’s of companies across the world in almost every sector of the energy space. Additionally, the laws and regulations around the energy sector vary in complexity based on location. This is why you don’t have very many companies that are able to span across more than a couple of countries, let alone states. It would take a massive company to dominate even a small portion of the market. XiWATT is fulfilling a completely different need, most projects are trying to tackle the problem of P2P energy trading, while we are creating a platform that allows for the creation and tokenization of renewable energy projects via crowdfunding and enables individuals and communities to co-own and trade these renewable energy assets.

Here is a quick summary of the projects in the space.

Let’s start with Wepower.

Location: Lithuania

Wepower’s model focuses on selling energy in a tokenized form in advance through an auction to raise capital for a project (although so far, I think their focus is on existing projects). The WPR token gives its holders priority access to the auctions and grants them to be the beneficiary of the 0.9% required “donation”(not sure how it’s a donation when it’s required) of energy produced by the renewable energy projects.

To put it simply, you can use Wepower's platform to purchase energy in advance in a tokenized manner. In no way do you own the actual renewable energy asset. I haven’t been able to grasp why the renewable energy projects would use this platform when Europe already has incredible lending programs for renewable energy expansion.  


Powerledger:

Location: Australia

Powerledger is providing enterprise level software to run the business layer of the grid. What I mean by this is that it’s used to buy and sell energy on the grid using the blockchain. They use public and private blockchains to do this depending on the application. Their PWR token grants access to the platform, but they haven't detailed out the use of this token on the private blockchain or how that would work. They have mentioned something about asset germination events, which would be the closest thing to some of what we are doing.


RestartEnergy

Location: Romania

RED (Restart Energy) is developing a similar platform to Powerledger. The primary benefit to using the blockchain would be the ability to deploy P2P trading of energy. My main concern about this is that it sounds great in theory, but we simply don’t have the infrastructure for it. In order for true P2P energy trading, we would need significant battery penetration. (People who have large batteries in their home that can store energy)


XiWATT

Location: USA

XiWATT has developed a platform that focuses on enabling individuals and communities to co-own the renewable energy project itself. The platform allows each renewable energy project to be set up independently of each other with the possibility of self-governance via smart contracts. The renewable energy projects themselves are tokenized alongside the energy they produce. You can think of each renewable energy project as a mini – ICO that mints its own token depending on the size of the project. We’ve developed systems by which you can consume the tokenized energy without having to be connected to the same grid as the renewable energy project (look into cloud net metering in our white paper). This allows the project the flexibility necessary to navigate the intricate local and state level regulations. This is just the tip of the iceberg; I believe the key difference between us and others in the space is that we’re a product of extensive research and are developing a platform that can cater to almost any type of renewable energy space. Our focus is not to have some gimmicky tokenized energy, but to allow people the ownership of their own energy assets. We plan to do this on a commercial and residential scale.

I could write out a much more detailed response if you'd like.

Best regards,

-Hamza
32  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PreICO] ⚡XiWATT⚡: A Platform to Co-own & Trade Renewable Energy Assets ⚡🌍 on: February 12, 2018, 05:06:10 PM
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