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Under all above circumstances we have decided to close the current campaign. Definitely, it was our mistake and it won't happen again. I tried to explain my logic in the previous post, but we want to be a part of a community and violation of current rules about trust will not drive us anywhere.
Our excuses to the enrolled users. They should receive payment from our manager soon. I confirm we received the payment for the manager's work back from lolxxxx. Will update this post when everybody will receive their funds.
UPD: I received a payment for campaign back from the user lolxxxx.
UPD2: All the enrolled users approved they obtained a small reward for wearing our signature a couple of days.
Best regards,
BitWhisk.io
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Well, guys, we thought that the whole idea of running a campaign is to show users of the forums our signatures. If the users hiring into campaign get their payments, then what is wrong? We are not going to scam anybody here.
Concerning trust parameter. We have checked other managers and while some of them have green trust they have much more red feedback in the untrusted feedback category than lolxxxx. Moreover, lolxxxx has quite good feedback from some established businesses. Right now, as the campaign is open this user is doing his job well, he is on connection with us and we are discussing this whole situation. Quality of the posters is important but our manager doesn't hire everybody who has applied. Aren't these good signs?
Best regards,
BitWhisk.io
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Site looks good. I think the fact that you're conducting a review campaign is definitely going to help with your public image, as well. However, I definitely think that it's going to hard for new mixers entering the scene because they don't have the trust of the public.
I agree with you, however, following this logic nothing new has a right to come up then, doesn't it? Just because first time nobody trusts a new product doesn't mean this product is going to turn into a scam. We put a lot of time and effort in developing this project, and we are satisfied with the result. We brought new features, which are not available with other mixers on the market. Moreover, we want to develop it further (you can check our roadmap on the investment page), but before that we need the current model start working, and for that purpose we need bigger reserve (concerning this, see my answer below). Either escrow some bitcoins to start off so that people have the peace of mind of knowing that they are protected, or launching some sort of advertising campaign will help as well based on what I've seen with other mixers.
Escrowing is good, but implementing it in a frank way would cost too much. For example, if mixer's reserve is 100 BTC and they hold in escrow 10 BTC this does not guarantee that all users will get the money back if mixer turns into scam, right? Actually, escrow should be much bigger than reserve, then it guarantees that people's money will not be lost. But it is a nonsense, nobody is going to hold 200 BTC in escrow, while using only 100 BTC in current reserve. Concerning advertisement, we have just started our signature campaign, check it out. As much as I understand that you guys may be in need of investment though, I would let the site run for a while before asking for any investments. It makes it seem like you're trying to get some quick money, since there is no shortage of coin mixer scams in the past.
We are not trying to convince anybody to put coins on our accounts, however we have a right to offer this to people. If we just stay in silence then obviously nothing is going to change, right? We are not expecting people to trust in us and invest right now, however something should be done, hence we decided to run a campaign and publicly announce our service. Maybe it works, maybe not. We are also extensively looking for investment by our private channels off the forum. Best regards, BitWhisk.io |
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For what it is worth, the delay worked and the custom fee worked as well. I like that you have set a maximum fee of 3%, because that saves anybody from accidentally giving you an absurd fee on accident. Your website has been very user friendly so far, and I've received back my coins without fault.
I have to admit that I was extremely skeptical at first, but I'm looking forward to seeing your site develop further and participate in future testing if need be. The way you performed testing was very generous and interesting.
Thanks for testing, Bill. I have my reservations and will most likely not have this as my primary mixer, for simple reasons such as the maximum is too low and this gives me a bit of a concern still. The idea that there is such limited funds involved in this project makes me fear that it may vanish at any time. The signature campaign will ease these concerns a bit, because the funds required for that are quite significant if you're running a campaign to any worthwhile degree. I think an increase in funds, maximum mix and forum presence in the form of a signature campaign without low-quality participants would go a long way towards increasing your reputation.
Yes, we understand your concerns, we started our campaign couple of days ago. Best regards, BitWhisk.io |
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If you are still in need of testers let me know if I would be accepted to try.
Are you still giving the bounty base amount to test your service?
Dear Paractor, it is a pity you came too late. Best regards, BitWhisk.io |
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We confirm this is our official signature campaign thread.
Best regards,
BitWhisk.io
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Are you still in need of testers?
Dear Sellingaccs, of course, it would be great if you test the service. How much would i have to pay in fees to mix, as i'd try with few mBTC, so i'd like to know how much in tx fees i have to pay and service fee in total.
Generally speaking, you choose service commission, it varies from 0.5 to 3 percents. You also control miner's fee rate for outcoming transactions. The total fee is thus estimated via calculator provided to you on the order page, feel free to use it. Best regards, BitWhisk.io |
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Dear Bill and Joe, we are glad to obtain such nice reviews from you! Today we have started our official ann thread and quoted both of you there. So, the testing time has mainly passed. We have a lot of plans for future development, including introducing another mixing mode and adding more cryptocurrencies. However, we need more coins in the reserve for that purpose. Hope our future signature campaign will attract some investors from the forum. Best regards, BitWhisk.io |
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BitWhisk is a new Bitcoin mixing service designed to defend your privacy. The project is built by a team of professional web developers and security experts. We stick to the highest level of business standards and help people maintain anonymity in Bitcoin network. We understand our business runs on your trust and our first priority task is to gain an excellent reputation. We are here to transform Blockchain into complete mess!Main features:- Mobile friendly website with simple to use interface;
- Working TOR-mirror;
- Custom service commission between 0.5 and 3 percents;
- Up to 10 target addresses;
- Unique time delay (up to 48 hours) for every target address;
- Smart minimum constraints depending on the order structure;
- You control miner's fee for outcoming transactions;
- Letter of Guarantee for every mixing order;
- With us you can check the status of your order at any time;
- JavaScript-free version of the website;
- REST-API for developers.
Now, let us introduce our mixing service in the form of concise FAQ. You can always find the full answers on our website.How does the mixing process work?
The essential scheme is very simple. You send us coins and we send them back to you from our reserve. You obtain your BTC from addresses that have absolutely no Blockchain relation to your transaction history.
How long does the mixing process take?
The answer depends on time delays you specified during the order process. Note that the delays are counted from the moment of your incoming transaction getting 2 confirmations (see below), not from the moment of creation of your order. Once the specified delays are over our backend code automatically sends your coins back to the target addresses.
Do you randomize the time delays?
Yes, we randomize long time delays with short intervals up to 10 minutes. This is done in order to increase complexity of our transaction history and exclude the situations where several of your target addresses are included in the same transaction. In turn, urgent payments are processed right away after your incoming transaction has been received.
How many confirmations do you need to accept transactions?
We accept all incoming transactions after 2 confirmations.
How long is incoming address valid for?
Generated address provided to you on the order page is valid only for 24 hours. All transactions paying to the address after this period will be ignored. Once all your delayed payments are processed the data concerning your order is completely deleted.
What logs do you keep?
Logs of any nature are not maintained. We do not store any information that can be used to identify the users either. All logs are wiped out on a routine basis to add to organizational efficiency and security of the users that rely upon us to maintain their anonymity.
Can I adjust miner's fee for outcoming transactions?
Yes, we provide our customers with a free choice of miner's fee rate for outcoming transactions made by our server. Please note, if your transaction gets stuck in mempool for 5 blocks and unconfirmed change is needed to process other customers payment we will resend it with higher miner's fee.
Do you use segwit addresses?
Yes, to reduce miner's fee for outcoming transactions made by our service all incoming payments are accepted to p2sh-segwit addresses. Moreover, with us you can forward your BTC to bech-32 addresses.We carried out review campaign and obtained quite a lot of positive feedback. Thanks to everybody who participated and took a part in our development. Below are most memorable reviews.I'm in a similar boat to Joe. I haven't forgotten about you guys either. I was around for the initial round of testing I believe and I wrote up a nice review about how enjoyable the UI looked on mobile devices (iOS, more specifically). I have also come back to mix some coins through your service, because it's unfortunate that you gave people coins specifically to test Nested SegWit addresses and nobody did so. I sent .002 through, with a delay and a custom fee. No problems thus far, very clean, very responsive and transparent. I can really see you guys becoming a bigger name in this niche. I would like to see a bigger maximum mix, but I can understand that you're working with limited capital from the beginning. I wouldn't mind accepting a reward, but I certainly am not expecting one, either.  After the 5hr delay I configured for this tumble, I have received my coins with no issues. I used a nested SegWit address to fund the mix, and received it to a nested SegWit address, as well. I went to check the status of my order after my coins were sent to me, and I’m glad to know that there was no reference to the order on your servers. After utilizing the service once, I must say that it is an extremely simple service to use; it’s the simplest out of all the mixers I have previously used.
Needless to say, but I will anyways: I have added this to the list of mixers that I use on a regular basis.
No need to send me any rewards for providing my experience. I just hope that this service is a continued one, and a profitable venture for you. You’ve got my vouch, so I hope you truly take the opportunity to gain some trust and reputation! Great addition to the privacy aspect of bitcoin!
We are currently seeking for investors ready to make a contribution to our mixing reserve. We offer our partners 70% of the profit according to their share. If you are interested, visit this page.Links:Precautions:
Please, always check the domain names. The above links are the only correct ones. Always download and check the Letter of Guarantee before sending us any coins. Our official BTC address for signing messages is 1BWhisku6FmdcWk776vrqb2KHs88r5oicp. Finally, do not use clearnet link within a TOR-browser.Have a nice and safe mixing with BitWhisk 
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Wow, a lot of activity for the past week. Will be glad to answer all questions. I have tried to send some bitcoin for testing, but I cannot get past the popup dialogue that asks me to confirm that the address will only be valid for 24 hours. I am on an iPad, and nothing happens when I click the “Accept” button, nor when I click the “x” to close out the dialogue.
I just refreshed the page and tried again. This time it was successful. I have set a delay of 5 hours for my $10 transaction. I will update this thread again once the tumbling is complete and I receive the chips to the address I provided.
We have been doing updates on the server that time   Looks like a coincidence: you clicked "Accept" button right at the moment when we were changing the backend code. It is the only reason I can think of. A quick note: what is the point of adding the amount before the payment screen? The payment screen just instructs me to send a minimum/maximum amount of bitcoin, which is contradictory to the btc amount field in the previous screen. Is it just a reference to see what our return will be after the mixing procedure?
Let me explain, the calculator is aimed to help you to configure the order, e.g. set the proper percent distribution (if you need a specific amount transferred to some of the addresses) etc. It is completely optional, we do not send to server the values of calculator input fields. It does not play any role in the order registration. Moreover, we do not need to know the exact amount of coins you are going to send to our wallet. You can send anything between minimum and maximum constraints. Hence, the answer on your last question is "definetely, yes" 
Hello! I've recently used .001 BTC from a Nested SegWit address (3 Address) and it made it back to me successfully. I had no problem setting my own fee, getting a custom delay and I made it through the UI on the website without flaw. The fees are minimal, and the mixing looks pretty solid as well. I don't know if you are handing out rewards for using your service as you have mentioned to Joe, but I thought it would be nice to use your service for my own tests and report back here.
Dear EthanB, first of all we are glad you didn't come across and decided to test our service with your own coins, thanks. It is truly encouraging for us. This review campaign lasts for more than a month now. First time, people took our coins, tested mixer and posted reviews, but the last two weeks something has changed: 4-5 persons took btc from us and disappeared. We still have some people that promised to test the service and post a review and we hope they'll do so. Still, this review campaign is coming to an end. The main (and the only one) problem with our service is that we do not have enough coins in the reserve (otherwise, of course, I would send you these 0.001 BTC). However, we do not lose heart and very soon we will run a signature campaign for two weeks and try to attract some investors. Yes, yes, I understand it may sound hopeless, but we really put a lot of effort in creating this service. We designed it with love and passion and want to be active on the market. Hence, lets see what results this future sig campaign brings. I have not yet tried a Native SegWit address, is this something that your service has implemented?
Yes, during this month we have implemented a lot of things and improved the service a bit. In particular, we support receiving from and sending to bech32 (see BitCryptex second review). Best regards, BitWhisk.io |
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Dear BTCforJoe, I am glad you didn't forget our thread. If possible, please mix your own coins (no need to risk a big amount, we have very low minimum incomes, just in case) and leave a feedback here. After that I will send you some reward to 3MCJBtW2uhvm7BJMtc4yxQUhGKoqD7q12x. I hope it is allright for you.
Thanks for advice about trust reports.
Best regards,
BitWhisk.io
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I was given another 1 mBTC to test bech32 transactions and I am glad to say that everything works perfect. BitWhisk.io didn't have any problem with receiving from my bech32 address and then sending to another one. Everything went smooth and I got my mixed coins after a moment.
Thank you for testing and posting review, dear BitCryptex. TBH, we are quite disappointed by the results of the last testing round. We gave coins to five persons, four of them with high reputation, and only two mixes were accomplished and one review written (by you). Hence, thanks for your honesty. Best regards, BitWhisk.io |
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Hi bitwhisk.io I am wondering if you have any live chat operative jobs for your website, so if anything goes wrong i can be there to fix it like a stuck order and what not.
Thanks for suggestion, ripplehd1. No, we do not yet have live chat operator jobs. Maybe in future.
Still looking for testers, especially those who could receive coins from mixer to bech-32 addresses. Best, BitWhisk.io |
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Will you be accepting members that already participated, or you want some new flesh? To be honest, we would like to attract a fresh blood, but let's see how many people will get interested. |
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Hey guys! Here we are, bumping this thread with our last updates.
1) Now it is possible to receive coins to bech-32 addresses. Hence we are the first mixer supporting new address format.
2) Calculator conversion to USD.
3) Miner's fee is calculated according to the base transaction size (i.e. without witness part).
4) We fixed some small backend bugs concerning sending from several inputs and miner's fee calculation.
We have coins for testing! If you are a full member or higher, join our testing company, write your address here or in pm and get 1mBTC for testing!
We especially welcome those who could test our implementation of bech32 addresses. Don't come across.
Best regards,
BitWhisk.io
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I'm digging the simplicity of your website's user flow, but also the complexity of how much detail went into providing this mixing service. I'll use your service this weekend for a small transaction of around $20 and provide my feedback at that time.
Thanks, it would be very nice! Question: Is the default miner's fee automatically updated?
Yes, it's automatically updated. If so, which recommended fee structure are you utilizing?
At first we thought of creating our own algorithm for optimal fee calculation, but it turned out that necessary data cannot be easily extracted through bitcoin core api. Hence we decided to use temporary solution: api provided by https://bitcoinfees.earn.comWe are currently checking the behaviour of standard bitcoin core method "estimatesmartfee". And maybe in future we will use this one instead of using somebody else's api. We are still testing and open for constructive criticism. If you know of a better strategy for miner's fee calculation share it with us and maybe our service will become better because of your suggestion. Itd be great, wouldn't it? I currently see 110 sat/b, which seems very high for a SegWit transaction.
What do you mean by "very high for SegWit transaction"? Fee is paid per bytes, no matter if transaction is segwit or not? Random request (I know, I know; this is prior to utilizing your service): Would it be possible to add an auto-converted field that allows me to enter a USD amount rather than a BTC amount, or vice versa?
Thanks for suggestion, I think we will add this feature. |
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Dear HasHe and Csmiami, thanks for your replies! Now everything is ok, we mixed your coins. Moreover, an order of HasHe helped to discover a bug with too small change amount. We already fixed it.
Dear Sellingaccs, fmboyzz, superman22. We appreciate your interest. In the past we sent some coins to people with small rank and some of them didn't accomplished the testing. We have very low minimum incoming amounts, so that you could test with your own BTC without any significant risk. We understand that then you do not have incentive to post a review, but as it is.
Best regards,
BitWhisk team
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I would like to give a review for your service as well.
However, if you do not trust me, i can test your service with my own funds and then you can send them once i am done with testing.
But here is my BTC address if there are still spots available for the testing queue: 1ACCs9LEvxV2o4zSWKMUYUHp1DKTrAHFcU
Dear Sellingaccs, did you mix 1m BTC with us? If yes, we apologize for delay, you helped to open up a small bug when sending too small change. Anyway, the bug is fixed and the payment is processed. Best, BitWhisk |
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Dear HasHe and csmiami, it is very pleasant to obtain such good reviews from you. However, yesterday we sent coins for testing to three persons and server processed only one mixing request. And then two reviews came up. What should we think? Does it mean that one of you two (we cannot know who) did not mix any coins with us? We are still testing, so if both of you indeed mixed coins then something very strange is happening Best, BitWhisk |
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New bech32 format is technically a native SegWit, using it would decrease the transaction size which would lead to lower transaction fees [1]. However, not every wallet supports bech32 format, yet, so I think you should stick to Nested (P2SH-P2WPKH) for some time. Although, it would be nice to be able to receive mixed coins to bech32 address. Feel free to PM when you will decide to implement it.
Yeah, another direction to develop. We will enable the possibility to send to bech-32 in a few days. |
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