еще скинуть 10 центов, и эфир достигнет цены по которой продавался на іро. плохи дела у витальки. m.youtube.com/watch?v=_0dgnlnyq9s  Какое имеет отношение цена у делам Витальки? Успех проекта не определяется тем, сколько спекулянты наварили на нём. |
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главное чтобы деньги с ipo пустили в дело, а не "проели" и не "пропили" бы  Под делом подразумевается оплата труда разработчиков? В фиатно-долларовом эквиваленте разумеется (сами то разработчики не верят на самом деле в идею включая Виталю). Еще заказать несколько статеек пресс-релизов.  Какое отношение имеет вера к спекулятивной игре? По-идее, успех эфира к его цене не имеет отношения. Получение денег из воздуха не есть показатель успешности проекта, как бы некоторым этого хотелось. Чтобы шла речь о фундаментальном росте цены, то должно быть столько приложений, что спрос на газ стал просто ошеломляющим и его достать стало очень дорого, но до этого реально, минимум, лет 10, а любые ценовые колебания сейчас ничем не обоснованы. |
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п.с. если вон даже по факту уже изначально обманули ранних вкладчиков которые инвестировали в августе в авгуры, так как их инвестиции посчитали по нижней планке стоимости монеты, хотя не должны были поступать так Надо было в битках вкладывать, условия были известны изначально. Естественно, что руководство до конца пресейла не может продавать монеты, почему оно вам должно считать по макс. курсу? Никакого обмана здесь нет. Я мог вложить в эфирах, но вкладывал в битках, т.к. был уверен, что до конца эфир упадет. А если бы вырос, то вы бы говорили, что должны посчитать по посл. дню. |
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you all talk like that, and in one moment when flash buy starts you just close this thread and forget what you said earlier ok Otoh have 50% of MN's ... ok ... why dont you drive price up where otoh will say HMM im gonna sell 20% of my MN's, then later another 20% ... then he will have only 10% and then you would be happy? yes? We have to trust, what he says? People become reach not because they say their real plans. |
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I think, that price is going down because of one (several) persons own 50%+ of masternodes, so budgeting system is in almost one hands, so there is no real decentralization.
In past, I thought, that budget money will be deducted from mined blocks (45% (miners) + 45% (masternodes) + 10% (budgets)) and load will be low, but now I see, that 5861 DASH was generated in the moment.
P.S. Judging on voting results I see, that real masternode operators voted was around 100 persons maximum, and 1000+ vote is always decisive.
As I said in past, who owns more masternodes can create more masternodes without new investments. Some people enjoy MN count rises, but I'm not. These new masternodes creates the same person who own 50% of existing masternodes and the most important - it costs no money for him.
And now, he can control budgeting system, simulating decentralization and real voting.
So, it's not wonderful, that DASH/BTC rate is falling, because project losses trust, I think, it's obvious. But somebody try to prove, that price falling doesn't matter.
Last time, I began to suspect, that this project really was created to simply pump money from it, first: throw instamine, second: throw masternode system, third: throw budgets.
I watch for project long time and I don't see any real promotion of it (especially seeing another projects promotion). Last months, market at all ceased to pay attention on DASH news.
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12:30 AM
xxx otoh, are you selling DASH so the price drops or is it by itself? 12:34 AM
otoh I decided to do some controlled burning just now, rather than let the price drift down I cleared out all the bids from 0.01 to 0.009 and am moving the BTC to USD for my $2 bid wall, I think this may help but who knows - the market always is right and will decide when and where the price goes. The bids are repopulating now somewhat, I'm actually super optimistic for the prospects of DASH, but if the market wants to see how low it can go that's fine by me, when it finds out I expect a mega bounce, I may even precipitate it as I have approx $0.5MM war chest atm should I choose to use it or some. 12:35 AM
xxx What's $0.5MM war chest? 12:36 AMOh, I looked it up, nvm 12:36 AM
otoh 5,000 Bengies  12:38 AM
xxx $2 is my entry price, wouldn't feel comfortable if it went lower 12:39 AM
otoh it won't, don't worry, I'm very happy to buy back at that price and will not pull the wall 12:39 AM
xxx ok, thank you for the extensive info 12:40 AM
otoh I actually doubt very much it will even get reached, it's 0.008285 with BTC @ $241.40 I think, somebody didn't expect such price drop Maybe you know, who owns 10k DASH sell order @ 0.0112? |
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Frontier is a live testnet, it is not the 'main release' of Ethereum, but rather an initial beta prerelease;
You'd be mad to use this for anything approaching important or valuable. Expect dragons;
Ребята, а кто-то читал вообще вот это предупреждение? Получается, что монетки ETH - это просто testnet, который в будущем будет ничего не стоить, когда выйдет mainnet.
А вот что написано в манифесте https://github.com/snordenstorm/wiki/wiki/%5BRussian%5D-White-PaperВалюта и выпуск Сеть Эфириум включает в себя свою собственную встроенную валюту эфир, введённую с двумя целями: 1) предоставить по-настоящему ликвидную валюту для обмена цифровыми активами 2) предоставить механизм оплаты стоимости транзакций. Для удобства и во избежание будущих споров и дискуссий (как это сейчас происходит с Биткойном при обсуждениях названий для миллибиткойна, микробиткойна и мельчайшей частички Биткойна) номиналы валют предлагается обозначить: 1: wei 103: lovelace 106: babbage 109: shannon 1012: szabo 1015: finney 1018: ether Как одно противоречит другому? |
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Frontier is a live testnet, it is not the 'main release' of Ethereum, but rather an initial beta prerelease;
You'd be mad to use this for anything approaching important or valuable. Expect dragons;
Ребята, а кто-то читал вообще вот это предупреждение? Получается, что монетки ETH - это просто testnet, который в будущем будет ничего не стоить, когда выйдет mainnet.
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Кто подскажет, что за хрень у меня в кошельке происходит. Скинул с ПОЛО себе на счет 0.25 ether, захотел перекинуть на другой кошель, сделал всё по инструкции, выдает мне хэш, а баланс не списывает, ну я несколько раз пробовал разные варианты, по итогу вообще непонятно что получилось. https://etherchain.org/account/0x60906c5389d07427debda9e75eca3073a7d1ce2d Было 250 Finney, осталось 40, а транзакция вообще, походу, в никуда ушла, но самое интересное, что Gas Price: 10 Szabo, Gas Used: 25,000, Tx Price: 250 Finney, а почему у меня тогда 40 ещё осталось? Хорошо, что я много денег туда не загрузил. Кто-нибудь знает, из-за чего всё это и почему такие комиссии? |
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But if you will recapitalize masternodes, you will own new masternodes much more faster, than other holders and in perspective your share of total masternode profit will grow in %.
Not at all - every Dash holder can use services like https://dashtalk.org/threads/splawik-s-super-shares-service.3195/before could setup their own MN - so have same advantages (%) as big holders. It's third-party and takes ~20%. To protect from what I'm telling, everybody, including operators with 1000 DASH may use such service and trust it. I don't think, it's possible. |
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I mean, that POS centralization is more difficult. First of all, it's expenses: electricily and hardware, that becomes broken and which you can't convert to money without losses, so you really need to withdraw profits. And the second, it's electricity. It's very difficult to accumulate electric power in one hands, because of techinical problems. Could you imagine, that one miner (not pool) owns 20% of hashing power in the world like otoh? At least, he will need to have it's own atomic electric station, and maybe not one. And what about masternodes? There are no expenses to own masternode, except hosting, which you can optimize strongly. You invested money, you withdrawn money. That's all. But if you will recapitalize masternodes, you will own new masternodes much more faster, than other holders and in perspective your share of total masternode profit will grow in %. For example, Otoh owns 642 MNs and other 642 owners have one MN each. With time, Otoh will enter new masternodes only from profit and grow his percentage and other owners will wait a lot, while their profit reach 1000 DASH. And as more time, more MNs and % will have Otoh and 1000 DASH goal for others will be more futher. With mining it's more difficult, because your hardware may obsolete and you can't simply grow your electric power, because it has limits. With MNs you have deal only with money. In future, somebody with most masternodes can accumulate most new generated money without additional investments.
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Hm, today if someone (Otoh) owns, for example, 1000 MNs, he gets ~ 516.9 DASH per day, so he can produce 1 new MN every 2 days (15 MNs per month). How does community rate this fact in case of DASH decentralization?
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If there is anyone here who can wholesale me 2k DASH for 20 btc, send me a PM
 thats too low, i believe that you'll need at least 25btc 23btc to acquire 2k dash on open market... and the other side, why should one sell you 2k dash vs 20 btc, if he simply can sell them on cryptsy right now for 22 BTC+ ... i guess noone is willing to give you 10% instant profit :O LOL! Nice try! I would take 2k dash for 20.1 BTC! My bid is 20.2 BTC |
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lowest price since March any predictions?
That's not true. Please refer to the USD price and not the BTC ratio. We are still around $2.83. BTC ratio goes down when BTC rises faster than DASH but in many cases when the ratio goes down, the DASH USD price still creeps higher. Well, since most of us bought DASH with BTC, we measure price in BTC... That's silly. How do you buy the BTC? You shouldn't measure it with BTC but if you do, you'll probably feel quite a bit of hurt if you haven't already. Good luck with that. It's not silly. For example, I measure my funds only in BTC with no relation to USD, that's why I don't care DASH/USD rate, but only DASH/BTC. |
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MN count is also falling; we've lost 85 MNs or 3.19% in the last 12 days? What's bad? My MNs will get more profit What's hope on selling? More trades = more coins are distributed in more hands. |
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Hey, guys! I'm trying to mix 12 DASH from yesterday and it's idle and timeout yet. Why is it so?
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And what problem to invest 10k$ in Masternode? I think, a lot of people have such amount to invest. For example, I bought my first MN for 9$/DRK, when BTC was ~ 600$ and continue to invest all the time.
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Why is it so low volatility on DASH?
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